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"stryped"

20/02/2006 5:21 AM

Newbie needs help tellign difference between red and white oak boards

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I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
what this wood is so I can segregate it?


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"stryped"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 7:43 AM

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I dont smoke nor desire too. Will the water trick mentioned previously
work? You could actually cut a 1 inch by once inch piece and be able to
suck water through the end of it if the other end was touching water?


Stephen M wrote:
> Do you smoke?
>
> 1. cut a piece of oak 1"x1"x4" with the grin going the 4" direction.
> 2. take hit off a cigarette, joint, whatever.
> 3. put you lips around the end of the test piece and exhale.
>
> If smoke comes out the other end it is red oak, not white. Seriously.
>
> You really don't need smoke, but it's just a cooler illustration that way.
>
> The cellular structure of red oak has open cells that pass through the grain
> like a straw. In white oak the cell structure is closed and you can not
> "blow" through it. Incidentally, it is this characteristic that makes red
> oak unsuitable for exterior applications. Capillary action will transmit
> water a bit too easily/far onto the end grain.
>
> Red also has a peach or pinkish cast to its fresh-sawn color. I find white
> oak to be grayish..
>
> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > x-no-archive:yes
> >
> > I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
> > white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
> > patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
> > what this wood is so I can segregate it?
> >

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"stryped"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

23/02/2006 5:31 AM

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There were a few porus holes but not alot.
Leon wrote:
> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > x-no-archive:yes
> >
> > I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
> > white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
> > patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
> > what this wood is so I can segregate it?
> >
>
> Typically red oak has porous holes on the end of the board. White has a
> tight grain on the end.

LL

"Locutus"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 10:15 AM


"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
> white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
> patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
> what this wood is so I can segregate it?
>

I don't believe in segregation.

LL

"Locutus"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 1:37 PM


"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
> white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
> patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
> what this wood is so I can segregate it?
>

Maybe one of your kids poured detergent down the dryer vent and it leaked
onto the boards?

LL

"Locutus"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 1:42 PM


"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> x-no-archive:yes
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>> I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
>> white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
>> patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
>> what this wood is so I can segregate it?
>>
>
> Maybe one of your kids poured detergent down the dryer vent and it leaked
> onto the boards?
>

oops, obviously this was supposed to be in response to your other post.

Kc

"Kc-Mass"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 9:37 AM

Cut a short piece of the end of the board. Stick it in a bit of water and
suck on the other end. If it acts as a straw it is red oak

"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
> white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
> patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
> what this wood is so I can segregate it?
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 2:42 PM


"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive:yes
>
> I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
> white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
> patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
> what this wood is so I can segregate it?
>

Typically red oak has porous holes on the end of the board. White has a
tight grain on the end.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 4:21 PM

stryped wrote:
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> I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak
> and white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what
> grain patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to
> determine what this wood is so I can segregate it?

They must be pine...pine with blue stain.

If they were oak you would know which was which already since people
told you how to tell the difference the last time you asked.


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"Walt Cheever"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

21/02/2006 1:27 PM

Around here, red oak smells like cat pi$$ when you work it. Haven't had any
white oak to know how it smells.

Walt C

"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive:yes
>
> I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
> white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
> patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
> what this wood is so I can segregate it?
>

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 8:43 AM

Do you smoke?

1. cut a piece of oak 1"x1"x4" with the grin going the 4" direction.
2. take hit off a cigarette, joint, whatever.
3. put you lips around the end of the test piece and exhale.

If smoke comes out the other end it is red oak, not white. Seriously.

You really don't need smoke, but it's just a cooler illustration that way.

The cellular structure of red oak has open cells that pass through the grain
like a straw. In white oak the cell structure is closed and you can not
"blow" through it. Incidentally, it is this characteristic that makes red
oak unsuitable for exterior applications. Capillary action will transmit
water a bit too easily/far onto the end grain.

Red also has a peach or pinkish cast to its fresh-sawn color. I find white
oak to be grayish..

"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> I have some oak boards given to me that may be a mixture of red oak and
> white oak. I am an extreme newbie and dont fullunderstant what grain
> patters are and what they look like. What is the best way to determine
> what this wood is so I can segregate it?
>

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 11:25 AM


"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I dont smoke nor desire too. Will the water trick mentioned previously
> work? You could actually cut a 1 inch by once inch piece and be able to
> suck water through the end of it if the other end was touching water?
>
Yeah, water, smoke, air, koolaid.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "stryped" on 20/02/2006 5:21 AM

20/02/2006 4:16 PM


"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive:yes
>
> I dont smoke nor desire too. Will the water trick mentioned previously
> work? You could actually cut a 1 inch by once inch piece and be able to
> suck water through the end of it if the other end was touching water?

The holes on the red oak end grain are quite large when compared to those of
white oak. Just make a clean cut across the ends and take a look.


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