On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 1:47:51 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 20:08:37 -0700 (PDT)
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > So now it's OK if the adult asks "Do you think it would look better
> > without the screws?"?
>
> i missed that you were looking for an argument
Shall I remind you of something you said to me:
"it seems that now if you can get them interested in woodworking you
let them be because that by itself is hard to do let alone being
so bold to tell them how to do it"
Electric Comet <[email protected]> writes:
>
>some people insist on imposing themselves into and onto everything
>
Oh, the irony!
On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 4:44:27 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Some students want to extract as much information from the teacher as
> > possible, others want to learn on their own. A good teacher (and
> > parent) recognizes each type of personality and adjusts his teaching
> > methods to fit.
>
> so true
>
> good baseball managers also have this trait
>
> they get a group of guys and if the manager is good he figures out
> how to win with that group of guys
>
> the notion applies to almost any position and parents are sure no
> exception but sadly some never figure that out
>
> as a whole i would say humanity is doing better at this than in
> the past
"as a whole" Classic :)
btw, Don't you think any manager is encumbered with this challenge?
On Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 5:36:23 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/14/2016 5:12 PM, Bill wrote:
> > Electric Comet wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mini-Golf-Accessories-Level-3-Kit/T25129
> >>
> >>
> >> not sure about the small wooden flag
> >> i think cloth or leather would be better for that
> >>
> >> has to be painted green too
> >> pretty sure the project can done without need for the plans
> > All of those screws look tacky (to me).
>
> It was designed for kids. I imagine an experienced woodworker could
> take a few hours and come up with a way to eliminate them. Nah, that
> would be hard to do.
...but a great teaching moment for the kid.
Adult: "Do you think it would look better without the screws?"
Kid, Option 1: "No"
Adult: "Then you have no eye for aesthetics. Go play in traffic."
Kid, Option 2: "Yes"
Adult: "OK, let's figure out a way to make that happen."
Disclaimer: I do not condone the practice of actually suggesting that
children play in traffic.
On 4/14/2016 5:12 PM, Bill wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>>
>> http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mini-Golf-Accessories-Level-3-Kit/T25129
>>
>>
>> not sure about the small wooden flag
>> i think cloth or leather would be better for that
>>
>> has to be painted green too
>> pretty sure the project can done without need for the plans
> All of those screws look tacky (to me).
It was designed for kids. I imagine an experienced woodworker could
take a few hours and come up with a way to eliminate them. Nah, that
would be hard to do.
On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 12:14:43 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ...but a great teaching moment for the kid.
> >
> > Adult: "Do you think it would look better without the screws?"
>
> it seems that now if you can get them interested in woodworking you
> let them be because that by itself is hard to do let alone being
> so bold to tell them how to do it
"Do you think it would look better without the screws?" is a question, not a command. A good teacher takes his cue from both the response and (hopefully)
his understanding of the student's personality.
Some students want to extract as much information from the teacher as
possible, others want to learn on their own. A good teacher (and parent)
recognizes each type of personality and adjusts his teaching methods to fit.
I have 4 kids. (They are all adults now.) #1 and #4 welcome my suggestions
and we build on those suggestions together. #2 welcomes my suggestions and
then expands on them to the n-th degree without any further prompting
from me. #3 simply wants to know the answer to the exact question that
*she* asked. If she wants or needs more information, *she* will ask.
It took me many years to figure out how to deal with #3 because I wanted
to teach. Once I figured what she was looking for, our relationship improved
immensely.
On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 4:44:27 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Some students want to extract as much information from the teacher as
> > possible, others want to learn on their own. A good teacher (and
> > parent) recognizes each type of personality and adjusts his teaching
> > methods to fit.
>
> so true
So now it's OK if the adult asks "Do you think it would look better
without the screws?"?
>
> good baseball managers also have this trait
>
> they get a group of guys and if the manager is good he figures out
> how to win with that group of guys
>
> the notion applies to almost any position and parents are sure no
> exception but sadly some never figure that out
>
> as a whole i would say humanity is doing better at this than in
> the past
Electric Comet wrote:
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mini-Golf-Accessories-Level-3-Kit/T25129
>
>
> not sure about the small wooden flag
> i think cloth or leather would be better for that
>
> has to be painted green too
>
>
> pretty sure the project can done without need for the plans
>
>
All of those screws look tacky (to me).
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 17:12:07 -0400
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> All of those screws look tacky (to me).
not insurmountable
mix a little fine sawdust with some glue and cover the screws
sand
paint green
the hardest part will be finding the right green for a green
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 17:36:22 -0400
Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> It was designed for kids. I imagine an experienced woodworker could
> take a few hours and come up with a way to eliminate them. Nah, that
> would be hard to do.
that is funny
a few hours sounds about right
might use staples and set the depth so the staple sticks out just
a little
golfing is supposed to be frustrating so those staples will help
with that
On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...but a great teaching moment for the kid.
>
> Adult: "Do you think it would look better without the screws?"
it seems that now if you can get them interested in woodworking you
let them be because that by itself is hard to do let alone being
so bold to tell them how to do it
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some students want to extract as much information from the teacher as
> possible, others want to learn on their own. A good teacher (and
> parent) recognizes each type of personality and adjusts his teaching
> methods to fit.
so true
good baseball managers also have this trait
they get a group of guys and if the manager is good he figures out
how to win with that group of guys
the notion applies to almost any position and parents are sure no
exception but sadly some never figure that out
as a whole i would say humanity is doing better at this than in
the past
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 20:08:37 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> So now it's OK if the adult asks "Do you think it would look better
> without the screws?"?
i missed that you were looking for an argument
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 11:05:07 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > So now it's OK if the adult asks "Do you think it would look
> > > better without the screws?"?
my position was clearly stated
scrutiny is good and required but too often and it can backfire
i do not believe in free reign either
it is a fine line to walk
as you said the approach to criticism is different for everyone
posing a question might be a productive approach
for example
nice putting practice green you made anything you would do
different next time
then you could ask
want to hear my opinions
some people insist on imposing themselves into and onto everything
Bill wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>>
>> http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mini-Golf-Accessories-Level-3-Kit/T25129
>>
>>
>> not sure about the small wooden flag
>> i think cloth or leather would be better for that
>>
>> has to be painted green too
>> pretty sure the project can done without need for the plans
> All of those screws look tacky (to me).
Sorry, I mentioned it! ; )