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"Rob H."

05/11/2009 4:25 AM

What is it? Set 309

I need some help with the second item this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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Nova

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 8:13 PM

Rob H. wrote:

> I need some help with the second item this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

I'd bet if you looked at the top of 1770 it says "Bell System".

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Jesse

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 3:54 PM

On Nov 5, 6:35=A0pm, E Z Peaces <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>
> > "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> #1770 is a linesman's hammer used by both power and phone
> >> linesman. =A0It is used to install and remove the steps that used
> >> to be installed in the sides of the poles. =A0The hammer pounds it
> >> in to get it started and the hole is placed ove the upturned end
> >> and provides the leverage to screw it the rest of the way in, or
> >> out.
>
> > Good answer, this is correct.
>
> >> #1767 =A0A guess. =A0Barbershop bottles for hair tonic?
>
> > No one has guessed correctly on the bottles yet.
>
> > Rob
>
> Baby bottles?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

# 1767 The bottles stored motor oil.

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 11:06 AM

On 11/5/2009 3:06 AM Alexander Thesoso spake thus:

> 1768 Orrery From the date given, the outer ring can't be Neptune, so
> it is probably some constellation or nebula.

Could be. Keep in mind how this works: the crank turns a geared shaft
which meshes with all the geared rings, so the the innermost ones turn
faster. I guess this makes this device obey the laws of planetary
physics (i.e., the innermost planets have faster orbits).


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Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 7:18 AM

1765 a pizza dough prep tool.

1768 seismograph

1769 ink roller for printing

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second item this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 2:24 PM

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:25:16 -0500, Rob H. wrote:

> I need some help with the second item this week:

The second one is a male chastity device. :-)

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Ted S.
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Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 8:38 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I need some help with the second item this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1765 - Looks familiar; I want to say it's a roller for gluing linoleum
(maybe in block printing).

1766 - Perhaps this was used to suspend a ladder or pole from
scaffolding or the top of a building--the side bar of the ladder fitting
in the loop, and the pointed hook part slipping over the scaffolding or
whatever. Downward pressure on the ladder would lock it in place,
upwards pressure would allow it to be repositioned vertically.

1767 - Bootleg liquor bottles, shaped to fit into special corners of the
bootlegger's vehicle or house or whatever.

1768 - Machine to show the relative position of the planets changing
over time. The side hand crank would rotate the planet disks at varying
speeds. It looks like maybe one turn of the crank equals a week, but
that's just a guess.

1769 - Bicycle pump cleverly disguised as a bowling pin? Frankly, I
have no idea.

1770 - Looks rather like a mason's hammer to me, but the hole is curious
indeed and presumably indicates a rather more specialized use.

Now to read other guesses...

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 6:06 AM

1768 Orrery From the date given, the outer ring can't be Neptune, so it is
probably some constellation or nebula.


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some help with the second item this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 6:12 AM

1768 How is this used??? An Astrologer takes money from a sucker, turns the
crank, mumbles, points at the aligned marks, and scientifically predicts the
future.


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 1768 Orrery From the date given, the outer ring can't be Neptune, so it
> is probably some constellation or nebula.
>
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I need some help with the second item this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>
>

PK

"Paul K. Dickman"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 11:56 AM

I believe #1769 is an adjustable Indian club (a type of weight used in
exercising) patented by Albert Courtney.

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=aMBDAAAAEBAJ&dq=647220

Paul K. Dickman


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 3:00 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second item this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
1767: I think they are bottles for vinaigrette. It was best mixed at
home because the shelf life was short. The tall, thin cylinders would
make it easy to add the right proportions of vinegar and oil, easy to
see when it needed more shaking, and easy to pour a small amount.

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 1:17 PM

#1770 is a linesman's hammer used by both power and phone
linesman. It is used to install and remove the steps that used
to be installed in the sides of the poles. The hammer pounds it
in to get it started and the hole is placed ove the upturned end
and provides the leverage to screw it the rest of the way in, or
out.

#1767 A guess. Barbershop bottles for hair tonic?

Art


RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 5:19 PM


"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> #1770 is a linesman's hammer used by both power and phone
> linesman. It is used to install and remove the steps that used
> to be installed in the sides of the poles. The hammer pounds it
> in to get it started and the hole is placed ove the upturned end
> and provides the leverage to screw it the rest of the way in, or
> out.


Good answer, this is correct.



> #1767 A guess. Barbershop bottles for hair tonic?


No one has guessed correctly on the bottles yet.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 5:24 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 1768:
>
> This went in a magic lantern and would project the motions of the
> planets.
> Jon


Yes, that's the answer that I was looking for.


Rob

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 6:35 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> #1770 is a linesman's hammer used by both power and phone
>> linesman. It is used to install and remove the steps that used
>> to be installed in the sides of the poles. The hammer pounds it
>> in to get it started and the hole is placed ove the upturned end
>> and provides the leverage to screw it the rest of the way in, or
>> out.
>
>
> Good answer, this is correct.
>
>
>
>> #1767 A guess. Barbershop bottles for hair tonic?
>
>
> No one has guessed correctly on the bottles yet.
>
>
> Rob
Baby bottles?

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 7:02 PM

Jesse wrote:
> On Nov 5, 6:35 pm, E Z Peaces <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>> "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> #1770 is a linesman's hammer used by both power and phone
>>>> linesman. It is used to install and remove the steps that used
>>>> to be installed in the sides of the poles. The hammer pounds it
>>>> in to get it started and the hole is placed ove the upturned end
>>>> and provides the leverage to screw it the rest of the way in, or
>>>> out.
>>> Good answer, this is correct.
>>>> #1767 A guess. Barbershop bottles for hair tonic?
>>> No one has guessed correctly on the bottles yet.
>>> Rob
>> Baby bottles?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> # 1767 The bottles stored motor oil.

Yes, they look like Caltex, Tiolene and Mobil.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 7:08 PM



># 1767 The bottles stored motor oil.


That's it! These are the first bottles of this type that I've seen, looks
like they would fall over very easily so I guess a lot them didn't survive.


Rob

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 6:16 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>
>
>> # 1767 The bottles stored motor oil.
>
>
> That's it! These are the first bottles of this type that I've seen,
> looks like they would fall over very easily so I guess a lot them didn't
> survive.

I'd never seen those, either. Interesting. I'd have to say the "barber
treatment" guess otta' been close-enough... :)

As for the hook, I dunno...I can't come up w/ a specific application but
there's no telling what somebody may have manufactured for a specific
purpose. No signs of any manufacturing IDs or other clues, I suppose?

What are the dimensions of the hook end itself? It doesn't seem likely
for logging because of that shape. Same for hay, etc., it just don't
ken function for the specific shape.

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AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 8:19 PM

Wow! Wonderful. I admit to being confused about history. Neptune was
discovered in 1846. I was wrong in thinking it was found much later.

So this thing is an early version of the Zeiss dumb-bell shaped projector
that was used to show the heavens in a planetarium dome.

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> 1768:
>>
>> This went in a magic lantern and would project the motions of the
>> planets.
>> Jon
>
>
> Yes, that's the answer that I was looking for.
>
>
> Rob
>

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 8:36 PM


"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> # 1767 The bottles stored motor oil.
>>
>>
>> That's it! These are the first bottles of this type that I've seen,
>> looks like they would fall over very easily so I guess a lot them didn't
>> survive.
>
> I'd never seen those, either. Interesting. I'd have to say the "barber
> treatment" guess otta' been close-enough... :)
>
> As for the hook, I dunno...I can't come up w/ a specific application but
> there's no telling what somebody may have manufactured for a specific
> purpose. No signs of any manufacturing IDs or other clues, I suppose?
>
> What are the dimensions of the hook end itself? It doesn't seem likely
> for logging because of that shape. Same for hay, etc., it just don't ken
> function for the specific shape.

According to the owner, the dimensions are: "11 in. long and 6 in. across
the L-shape. The loop is 5in. across and 3 in. deep. The loop is attached
5 in from a flat end." I'd say it was probably blacksmith made for a
particular purpose, not mass produced, which makes solving it very
difficult, I'll be surprised if we get an answer for it.

Rob




SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 9:49 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> # 1767 The bottles stored motor oil.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's it! These are the first bottles of this type that I've seen,
>>> looks like they would fall over very easily so I guess a lot them
>>> didn't survive.
>>
>> I'd never seen those, either. Interesting. I'd have to say the
>> "barber treatment" guess otta' been close-enough... :)
>>
>> As for the hook, I dunno...I can't come up w/ a specific application
>> but there's no telling what somebody may have manufactured for a
>> specific purpose. No signs of any manufacturing IDs or other clues, I
>> suppose?
>>
>> What are the dimensions of the hook end itself? It doesn't seem
>> likely for logging because of that shape. Same for hay, etc., it just
>> don't ken function for the specific shape.
>
> According to the owner, the dimensions are: "11 in. long and 6 in.
> across the L-shape. The loop is 5in. across and 3 in. deep. The loop
> is attached 5 in from a flat end." I'd say it was probably blacksmith
> made for a particular purpose, not mass produced, which makes solving it
> very difficult, I'll be surprised if we get an answer for it.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
>

It looks similar to the hooks one of the local Amish use. They place the
hooks on a beam when doing a barn raising to pull other sections up. Not
sure if that is what this one is or not.


--
Steve W.

Rr

"Robert"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 4:15 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> #1770 is a linesman's hammer used by both power and phone
>> linesman. It is used to install and remove the steps that used
>> to be installed in the sides of the poles. The hammer pounds it
>> in to get it started and the hole is placed ove the upturned end
>> and provides the leverage to screw it the rest of the way in, or
>> out.
>
>
> Good answer, this is correct.
>
>
>
>> #1767 A guess. Barbershop bottles for hair tonic?
>
>
> No one has guessed correctly on the bottles yet.
>
>
> Rob

1776 butter churn?

Robert

Rr

"Robert"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 4:22 AM


>
> 1776 butter churn?
>
> Robert
>
1769 butter churn

I posted the wrong #

Robert

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 4:44 AM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rob H. wrote:
>
>> I need some help with the second item this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>
> I'd bet if you looked at the top of 1770 it says "Bell System".


That would be a good bet, it does say Bell System on it.


Rob

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 7:54 AM

Steve W. wrote:
...
> It looks similar to the hooks one of the local Amish use. They place the
> hooks on a beam when doing a barn raising to pull other sections up. Not
> sure if that is what this one is or not.

That or something very similar would be my "bestest guess" also--that it
was sized for particular beams or object but not terribly confident.

"Old-style" barn raisings over the last 20 years around these-here parts
that will use slings and telehandler or similar gear...they still don't
use grid power in the house but everything on the place is latest there
is...

Back on the bottles, I had wondered if were patent-medicines and again
at the time and the actual contents probably could have been "yes"
there, too... :)

--

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 4:54 PM


"Paul K. Dickman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I believe #1769 is an adjustable Indian club (a type of weight used in
>exercising) patented by Albert Courtney.

Your answer is correct but you have the wrong inventor and patent.

Another tough set this week, four of the six have been correctly named,
still not sure about number 1766, the answer page can be seen here:

http://answers309t.blogspot.com/


Rob

PK

"Phil Kangas"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 8:03 PM


>
> Another tough set this week, four of the six have been
> correctly named, still not sure about number 1766, the
> answer page can be seen here:
>
> http://answers309t.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

That little birdie on my shoulder is wispering in my ear:

"Ice block hook."

phil kangas


LL

"LDosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 8:56 PM

"Phil Kangas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> Another tough set this week, four of the six have been correctly named,
>> still not sure about number 1766, the answer page can be seen here:
>>
>> http://answers309t.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> That little birdie on my shoulder is wispering in my ear:
>
> "Ice block hook."
>
> phil kangas
>
>


Ice was normally picked up using tongs.

RS

Roy Smith

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 9:03 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I need some help with the second item this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

My guess is 1766 is something used in logging. It looks like you would
hammer the spike into a log and it provides a loop around which you can tie
a rope (or shackle a chain) for dragging said log.

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 3:55 AM

On 2009-11-05, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the second item this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1765) This looks to me to be a meat tenderizer -- for fairly
large steaks and such. Not sure about the choice of
metal as it appears to be a copper-based alloy, probably bronze,
and with certain fluids it might make a mildly toxic result.

1766) At a pure guess, it looks to me like something designed to be
pounded into the top of a fence post or a tall stump, with the
flat piece tucked under a loop to keep it from pulling away, and
is used for hitching a horse for short periods.

1767) Hmm ... perhaps for flavorings used in a soda fountain? or
perhaps some form of whiskey bottle. A bit tall for a soft
drink. The two outer ones appear to use crimped-on caps, while
it is difficult to tell about the center one.

1768) Interesting thing. The first guess was a disk-keyed music box
but all the holes appear to be present in all the rows.

However -- it does look as though there are multiple concentric
rings with gear teeth which engage the long gear from the crank,
and the presence of what looks like planetary symbols suggest
that it may be an early form of planetarium (projects star and
planet information on the ceiling or wall.)

Since the pitch of the gears appears the same for each
concentric ring, the inner ones will turn faster than the outer
ones, perhaps matching orbital times.

Some of the rings appear to have multiple holes, thus projecting
constellations like the big dipper and such.

1769) Hmm a piston igniter? Air is compressed heavily in the bottom
thus heating greatly and igniting some tinder in the bottom.
What I don't see is a way to get the lit tinder out of the
container to the potential fire quickly enough. Do the upper
and lower parts of the container separate along perhaps the
middle of the three grooves?

1770) Hmm ... perhaps a blacksmith's or a farrier's hammer? Not
quite sure what function the hole serves -- unless it contains a
bottle of horseshoe nails?

Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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[email protected] (Matthew Russotto)

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

05/11/2009 12:29 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>I need some help with the second item this week:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1765: Mechanical meat tenderizer (do those things actually work?)

1766: Looks kind of like like an over-the-door hanger, though the
pointy end argues against that.

1767: Since the middle one appears to have a cap which doubles as a
cup, I'd guess they're for potent potables of some sort. Seems too
large for medicines.

1768: The "how" is easy enough; you turned the crank. Not sure about
the why, though.

1769: Ye Old Paint Edger

1770: Looks like a geologist's hammer. Doesn't explain the hole in
the head, at least to me.



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"Steve R."

in reply to "Rob H." on 05/11/2009 4:25 AM

06/11/2009 1:04 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some help with the second item this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>

1768 an orrerry for a planetarium, or magic lantern. ??????????


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