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woodchucker

08/04/2016 9:32 PM

Grainger's prices..

Was looking for some flexible grinding wheels for my grinder.
I have a bunch that are great, but can't find them anymore.

So after doing a search I see a couple of possible replacement candidates.

So Graingers sells case only, but at twice the price of every other
competitor.... $422.50

While it can be had for 174.87 from :
https://www.apdmro.com/3M-50442-Green-Corps-Flexible-Wheel-4-1-2X1-8x7-8-p/60440126021.htm?psrid=142637559

Or $229
http://www.dgisupply.com/product/CAP50442/;pgid=Q0LwSh6wpmZSRpmIbO0LO0Xz0000mWkGMYYU;sid=mnYFcDZcMD0RcGKqjA0O8_5WdrKi8tqYPfRpyOwk?psrid=138912054

I know this has been hashed out b4, and I know they have places all
around, but really 174 vs 422 that's a hard one to swallow. Even 229
vs 422..



--
Jeff


This topic has 21 replies

kk

krw

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 10:35 PM

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 22:15:49 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 4/15/2016 2:59 PM, krw wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 13:29:47 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> writes:
>>>> On 4/14/2016 4:47 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grainger web site sucks too. Much easier to search for something on
>>>> McMaster.
>>>
>>> Indeed, but I still prefer the paper catalogs from both Graingers
>>> and McMaster. They also make good doorstops.
>>
>> I don't like paper catalogs of any sort. Some companies have a much
>> better web presence than others. They get the business. In the
>> general retail domain, that's Amazon. In the electronics, DigiKey. In
>> woodworking hardware it used to be McFeely's but they've gone down the
>> drain.
>>
>
>I hate digikey's website. I wish it were better.

I love it. I've told (many) other suppliers that I'd buy from them if
they had a search engine as good. Some have told me that they have a
"new" front end that's even better. I ask if they've actually tried
it.

>It's very hard to navigate if you are not an electronics guy.

Well, that may be the difference. You do have to know what you're
looking for. I do wish they did have more pictures of things like
connectors and other mechanical widgets.

kk

krw

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 10:36 PM

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 22:13:58 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 4/15/2016 5:17 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:47:14 -0400
>>> Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No one has mentioned it, but a visit to the store begins with a
>>>> conversation--so they have a
>>>> (slightly?) different business model.
>>> no have not
>>>
>>> what is the story
>>>
>>> do they have official greeters or is it a counter in front of a
>>> warehouse
>>
>> Yes, it is basically a counter in front of a warehouse. The counter has
>> computers on it, and a cash drawer. Relaxing atmosphere with low
>> traffic. Surely, it's mainly a "front" for their catalog business.
>>
>>
>>
>Either that or a front for the drug industry... each of us gets a fix
>with tools and hardware :-)

I resemble that remark!

Sc

Sonny

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

09/04/2016 4:40 AM

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 8:32:40 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
> Was looking for some flexible grinding wheels for my grinder.
> I have a bunch that are great, but can't find them anymore.
>=20

I wouldn't have thought those 1/8" thick discs were flexible. I often use=
the (24, 36, 50 grit) fiber grinding disc: https://jet.com/product/detail/=
764a0ec25e4f4242928a850f8b972f36?gclid=3DCMfivt64gcwCFRIoaQodAKIFjw ....=
my grinder has a rubberized backing pad, to accommodate the flexing.

My local tool/equipmemt rental store has, both, my and your kind of grinder=
s and grinding discs. Your tool rental outlet may have a similar selection=
.

Sonny

Gs

"Gramps' shop"

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

10/04/2016 1:57 PM

Or .. in my experience ... if you really need it tomorrow and nobody in town has it, Grainger will have it by 10 a.m.
> >
> > Grainger is a really great place to buy products that you can't find anywhere else... but a
> > really lousy place to buy products that you *can* find somewhere else.
> >
>
>
> Exactly!

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

09/04/2016 3:02 PM

On 4/9/2016 7:40 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 8:32:40 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
>> Was looking for some flexible grinding wheels for my grinder.
>> I have a bunch that are great, but can't find them anymore.
>>
>
> I wouldn't have thought those 1/8" thick discs were flexible. I often use the (24, 36, 50 grit) fiber grinding disc: https://jet.com/product/detail/764a0ec25e4f4242928a850f8b972f36?gclid=CMfivt64gcwCFRIoaQodAKIFjw .... my grinder has a rubberized backing pad, to accommodate the flexing.
>
> My local tool/equipmemt rental store has, both, my and your kind of grinders and grinding discs. Your tool rental outlet may have a similar selection.
>
> Sonny
>

Yea, they are not totally flexible, but they cut like nothing else.

I had a bunch of Cronatron flexible wheels. Cronatron Welding apparently
is no longer, it looks like Lawson bought them, I think.

These cut so fast, I never went back to the hard discs again. And they
gave enough to be able to shape metal nicely and blend it. They also
seemed to last much longer than the hard discs. I'll miss them.


So I'm looking to try a couple of discs of varying manufacturers to find
the replacement.

--
Jeff

SW

Spalted Walt

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

09/04/2016 2:09 AM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:

>Was looking for some flexible grinding wheels for my grinder.
>I have a bunch that are great, but can't find them anymore.
>
>So after doing a search I see a couple of possible replacement candidates.
>
>So Graingers sells case only, but at twice the price of every other
>competitor.... $422.50
>
>While it can be had for 174.87 from :
>https://www.apdmro.com/3M-50442-Green-Corps-Flexible-Wheel-4-1-2X1-8x7-8-p/60440126021.htm?psrid=142637559
>
>Or $229
>http://www.dgisupply.com/product/CAP50442/;pgid=Q0LwSh6wpmZSRpmIbO0LO0Xz0000mWkGMYYU;sid=mnYFcDZcMD0RcGKqjA0O8_5WdrKi8tqYPfRpyOwk?psrid=138912054
>
>I know this has been hashed out b4, and I know they have places all
>around, but really 174 vs 422 that's a hard one to swallow. Even 229
>vs 422..

Will 60 grit work?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EMZYIZC

Pack of 50 for $78.

kk

krw

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 2:59 PM

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 13:29:47 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> writes:
>>On 4/14/2016 4:47 PM, Bill wrote:
>
>>
>>Grainger web site sucks too. Much easier to search for something on
>>McMaster.
>
> Indeed, but I still prefer the paper catalogs from both Graingers
>and McMaster. They also make good doorstops.

I don't like paper catalogs of any sort. Some companies have a much
better web presence than others. They get the business. In the
general retail domain, that's Amazon. In the electronics, DigiKey. In
woodworking hardware it used to be McFeely's but they've gone down the
drain.

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

08/04/2016 9:22 PM

On 4/8/2016 8:32 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> Was looking for some flexible grinding wheels for my grinder.
> I have a bunch that are great, but can't find them anymore.
>
> So after doing a search I see a couple of possible replacement candidates.
>
> So Graingers sells case only, but at twice the price of every other
> competitor.... $422.50
>
> While it can be had for 174.87 from :
> https://www.apdmro.com/3M-50442-Green-Corps-Flexible-Wheel-4-1-2X1-8x7-8-p/60440126021.htm?psrid=142637559
>
>
> Or $229
> http://www.dgisupply.com/product/CAP50442/;pgid=Q0LwSh6wpmZSRpmIbO0LO0Xz0000mWkGMYYU;sid=mnYFcDZcMD0RcGKqjA0O8_5WdrKi8tqYPfRpyOwk?psrid=138912054
>
>
> I know this has been hashed out b4, and I know they have places all
> around, but really 174 vs 422 that's a hard one to swallow. Even 229
> vs 422..
>
>
>
Grainger has the advantage of being a handy place to buy odd stuff. And
you pay for that.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

14/04/2016 5:21 PM

On 4/14/2016 4:47 PM, Bill wrote:

>> if you ask i bet they will give you a better price
> You've obviously never been the place. However, I suspect if you have
> the correct
> credentials (meaning you'll be a high-volume customer) that they would
> offer a discount.
> No one has mentioned it, but a visit to the store begins with a
> conversation--so they have a
> (slightly?) different business model.
>
>
>
If I call the salesman for our account I can get a better price. In
less time I can just order from McMaster and have a better price without
asking. McMaster does not discount. I asked a few years back when we
were moving our plant and buying a lot of stuff. Everyone pays the same.

Grainger web site sucks too. Much easier to search for something on
McMaster.

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

10/04/2016 12:05 PM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in news:O5ednbwKPKwoxpXKnZ2dnUU7-
[email protected]:

> Was looking for some flexible grinding wheels for my grinder.
> I have a bunch that are great, but can't find them anymore.
>
> So after doing a search I see a couple of possible replacement candidates.
>
> So Graingers sells case only, but at twice the price of every other
> competitor.... $422.50

Not unusual IME. I encountered these prices recently on the Werner PS-48 portable
scaffold:
Sherwin-Williams: $125
Home Depot: $100
Grainger: $210

Grainger is a really great place to buy products that you can't find anywhere else... but a
really lousy place to buy products that you *can* find somewhere else.

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 10:15 PM

On 4/15/2016 2:59 PM, krw wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 13:29:47 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
> wrote:
>
>> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> writes:
>>> On 4/14/2016 4:47 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Grainger web site sucks too. Much easier to search for something on
>>> McMaster.
>>
>> Indeed, but I still prefer the paper catalogs from both Graingers
>> and McMaster. They also make good doorstops.
>
> I don't like paper catalogs of any sort. Some companies have a much
> better web presence than others. They get the business. In the
> general retail domain, that's Amazon. In the electronics, DigiKey. In
> woodworking hardware it used to be McFeely's but they've gone down the
> drain.
>

I hate digikey's website. I wish it were better.
It's very hard to navigate if you are not an electronics guy.

--
Jeff

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 10:13 PM

On 4/15/2016 5:17 PM, Bill wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:47:14 -0400
>> Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> No one has mentioned it, but a visit to the store begins with a
>>> conversation--so they have a
>>> (slightly?) different business model.
>> no have not
>>
>> what is the story
>>
>> do they have official greeters or is it a counter in front of a
>> warehouse
>
> Yes, it is basically a counter in front of a warehouse. The counter has
> computers on it, and a cash drawer. Relaxing atmosphere with low
> traffic. Surely, it's mainly a "front" for their catalog business.
>
>
>
Either that or a front for the drug industry... each of us gets a fix
with tools and hardware :-)

--
Jeff

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

10/04/2016 3:40 PM

On 4/10/2016 7:05 AM, Doug Miller wrote:
Snip


>
> Grainger is a really great place to buy products that you can't find anywhere else... but a
> really lousy place to buy products that you *can* find somewhere else.
>


Exactly!

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 1:29 PM

Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> writes:
>On 4/14/2016 4:47 PM, Bill wrote:

>
>Grainger web site sucks too. Much easier to search for something on
>McMaster.

Indeed, but I still prefer the paper catalogs from both Graingers
and McMaster. They also make good doorstops.

c

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

08/04/2016 11:18 PM

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:32:33 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Was looking for some flexible grinding wheels for my grinder.
>I have a bunch that are great, but can't find them anymore.
>
>So after doing a search I see a couple of possible replacement candidates.
>
>So Graingers sells case only, but at twice the price of every other
>competitor.... $422.50
>
>While it can be had for 174.87 from :
>https://www.apdmro.com/3M-50442-Green-Corps-Flexible-Wheel-4-1-2X1-8x7-8-p/60440126021.htm?psrid=142637559
>
>Or $229
>http://www.dgisupply.com/product/CAP50442/;pgid=Q0LwSh6wpmZSRpmIbO0LO0Xz0000mWkGMYYU;sid=mnYFcDZcMD0RcGKqjA0O8_5WdrKi8tqYPfRpyOwk?psrid=138912054
>
>I know this has been hashed out b4, and I know they have places all
>around, but really 174 vs 422 that's a hard one to swallow. Even 229
>vs 422..
The convenience of "one stop shopping" comes at a price, I guess.
They carry a lot of stuff that isn't easy to find, and for many
companies (and they cater to companies) are happy to pay their price
to get everything they need on one P.O. on account.

Mm

Meanie

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

09/04/2016 6:36 AM

On 4/8/2016 9:32 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> Was looking for some flexible grinding wheels for my grinder.
> I have a bunch that are great, but can't find them anymore.
>
> So after doing a search I see a couple of possible replacement candidates.
>
> So Graingers sells case only, but at twice the price of every other
> competitor.... $422.50
>
> While it can be had for 174.87 from :
> https://www.apdmro.com/3M-50442-Green-Corps-Flexible-Wheel-4-1-2X1-8x7-8-p/60440126021.htm?psrid=142637559
>
>
> Or $229
> http://www.dgisupply.com/product/CAP50442/;pgid=Q0LwSh6wpmZSRpmIbO0LO0Xz0000mWkGMYYU;sid=mnYFcDZcMD0RcGKqjA0O8_5WdrKi8tqYPfRpyOwk?psrid=138912054
>
>
> I know this has been hashed out b4, and I know they have places all
> around, but really 174 vs 422 that's a hard one to swallow. Even 229
> vs 422..
>
>
>

They mark up their prices to give their customers (accounts) discounts
which makes them believe they are getting a deal. On the plus side, they
will except returns with no questions asked.

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

14/04/2016 1:32 PM

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:32:33 -0400
woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:

> I know this has been hashed out b4, and I know they have places all
> around, but really 174 vs 422 that's a hard one to swallow. Even
> 229 vs 422..

price matching might be the way to go

most places want your business and many people just pay the going
rate or leave

if you ask i bet they will give you a better price









BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

14/04/2016 4:47 PM

Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:32:33 -0400
> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I know this has been hashed out b4, and I know they have places all
>> around, but really 174 vs 422 that's a hard one to swallow. Even
>> 229 vs 422..
> price matching might be the way to go
>
> most places want your business and many people just pay the going
> rate or leave

> if you ask i bet they will give you a better price
>
You've obviously never been the place. However, I suspect if you have
the correct
credentials (meaning you'll be a high-volume customer) that they would
offer a discount.
No one has mentioned it, but a visit to the store begins with a
conversation--so they have a
(slightly?) different business model.


>
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EC

Electric Comet

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 9:27 AM

On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:47:14 -0400
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

> No one has mentioned it, but a visit to the store begins with a
> conversation--so they have a
> (slightly?) different business model.

no have not

what is the story

do they have official greeters or is it a counter in front of a
warehouse












BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 5:17 PM

Electric Comet wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:47:14 -0400
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No one has mentioned it, but a visit to the store begins with a
>> conversation--so they have a
>> (slightly?) different business model.
> no have not
>
> what is the story
>
> do they have official greeters or is it a counter in front of a
> warehouse

Yes, it is basically a counter in front of a warehouse. The counter has
computers on it, and a cash drawer. Relaxing atmosphere with low
traffic. Surely, it's mainly a "front" for their catalog business.


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kk

krw

in reply to woodchucker on 08/04/2016 9:32 PM

15/04/2016 3:00 PM

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:27:05 -0700, Electric Comet
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:47:14 -0400
>Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No one has mentioned it, but a visit to the store begins with a
>> conversation--so they have a
>> (slightly?) different business model.
>
>no have not
>
>what is the story
>
>do they have official greeters or is it a counter in front of a
>warehouse
>
wht dd u sy?
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