In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Don't read the articles that don't have a subject line that interests
>you.
How ironic to hear that coming from you, Fred.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
>
> >Don't read the articles that don't have a subject line that
interests
> >you.
>
> How ironic to hear that coming from you, Fred.
>
How so?
--
FF
Pat Barber wrote:
> Download Netscape 7.1 and use their news reader. It works
> just fine and has "fair" filtering. It pretty friendly
> and the idjits don't try to fool with Netscape like they
> do to IE...
>
If by idjits you mean people who put malicious code into their
articles then it doesn't matter if they try or not. Netscape
doesn't try to interpret and execute inline ASCII.
If by idjits, you mean the authors of Netscape and IE, I
quite agree. Only an idjit would write an appication
for reading an ASCII medium that interprets inline ASCII
as executable code, especially when you consider that
several newsgroups exist for he purpose of discussing code.
Unfortunately the idjits who have been modifying Google recently
seem to think its a good idea to interpret inline ASCII as
formatting instructions. That's almost as bad.
I'll bet OE doesn't use CDS either. Google must, other wise it'd
be crashing all the time.
--
FF
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Doug Miller wrote:
> >> In article
<[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >> >Don't read the articles that don't have a subject line that
> >interests
> >> >you.
> >>
> >> How ironic to hear that coming from you, Fred.
> >>
> >
> >How so?
> >
> Do you *really* need that spelled out for you?
>
I already spelled out for you that I was very interested in
a particular topic and therefor wanted to discuss in a
newsgroup in which it was on-topic.
There no way an honest person would represent that I was not
interested in the subject. I thought perhaps you were going
to do that.
--
FF
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >Doug Miller wrote:
> >> In article
<[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Doug Miller wrote:
> >> >> In article
> ><[email protected]>,
> >> >[email protected] wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Don't read the articles that don't have a subject line that
> >> >interests
> >> >> >you.
> >> >>
> >> >> How ironic to hear that coming from you, Fred.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >How so?
> >> >
> >> Do you *really* need that spelled out for you?
> >>
> >
> >I already spelled out for you that I was very interested in
> >a particular topic and therefor wanted to discuss in a
> >newsgroup in which it was on-topic.
> >
> >There no way an honest person would represent that I was not
> >interested in the subject. I thought perhaps you were going
> >to do that.
>
> I'm talking about your repeated badgering of Dave Hinz to stop
posting
> off-topic. If his OT posts bothered you that much, the solution is
> _real_simple_, Fred. As you said yourself --
>
> Don't read them.
I also spelled out for Mr Hinz that I was very interested in
that particular topic and therefor wanted to discuss in a
newsgroup in which it was on-topic.
There no way an honest person would represent that I was not
interested in the subject. It appears that is what you are
doing now, just as he did.
--
FF
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> >I also spelled out for Mr Hinz that I was very interested in
> >that particular topic and therefor wanted to discuss in a
> >newsgroup in which it was on-topic.
>
> Mind citing a post in which you said that? From here, it looked more
like you
> were just being argumentative. Just like you are now.
>
Google is your friend, or actually, in this case, mine.
--
FF
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> >
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/msg/481ed4d155061379?dmode=
> >source
> >
> Guess I must've been to busy ignoring you to have seen that one...
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his
butt.
> And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Would you be so kind as to post a link for me?
--
FF
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 23:26:18 GMT, Doug Miller <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >
> > I'm talking about your repeated badgering of Dave Hinz to stop
posting
> > off-topic.
>
> What, is he _still_ at that? Killfiles are, indeed, a wonderful
thing.
>
> > If his OT posts bothered you that much, the solution is
> > _real_simple_, Fred. As you said yourself --
> > Don't read them.
>
> If I was the type to snipe at someone who I have killfiled, I'd do
that
> at this point.
>
So that's your excuse for not explaining just exactly what your
problem was with the concept of a hydrogen generator being a
conventional military asset.
--
FF
J. Clarke wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave Hinz wrote:
> >> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 23:26:18 GMT, Doug Miller
<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'm talking about your repeated badgering of Dave Hinz to stop
> > posting
> >> > off-topic.
> >>
> >> What, is he _still_ at that? Killfiles are, indeed, a wonderful
> > thing.
> >>
> >> > If his OT posts bothered you that much, the solution is
> >> > _real_simple_, Fred. As you said yourself --
> >> > Don't read them.
> >>
> >> If I was the type to snipe at someone who I have killfiled, I'd do
> > that
> >> at this point.
> >>
> >
> > So that's your excuse for not explaining just exactly what your
> > problem was with the concept of a hydrogen generator being a
> > conventional military asset.
>
> So what is the conventional military utility of a hydrogen generator?
>
They are used to fill weather balloons that are used to determine
winds aloft so that proper corrections my be applied by the
aritillery units to which the hydrogen gnerators are attached.
Perhaps Mr Hinz thought they were to be used for hydrogen bombs.
I dunno, he refused to answer.
--
FF
J. Clarke wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >
> > J. Clarke wrote:
> >>
> >> So what is the conventional military utility of a hydrogen
generator?
> >>
> >
> > They are used to fill weather balloons that are used to determine
> > winds aloft so that proper corrections my be applied by the
> > aritillery units to which the hydrogen gnerators are attached.
> > Perhaps Mr Hinz thought they were to be used for hydrogen bombs.
> > I dunno, he refused to answer.
>
> Sounds rather quaint.
>
In the 1980's Iraq used British built units. The newer units
discovered after the 2003 invasion appear to be knock-offs of
indigenous Iraqi manufacture--possibly te British wouldn't
repair or replace the old ones after the 1991 war.
You can do this at home yourself, taking all precautions
appropriate for working with a strong base. Just dissolve a little
sodium hydroxide in water in a plastic (not glass!) bottle like
a soft drink bottle and toss in a little crumpled aluminum
foil. When you see gas bubbles forming, shake the bottle a little.
The reaction generates a LOT of heat, you'll get hydrogen and steam.
The hydrogen can be captured in a plastic bag. A small bag will
capture enough to make a nice yellow flame when touched with
a match, quite sufficient to burn the hairs off your hand. If
you don't cool the gas befor capturing it you'l get too much
water condensing in the bag for it to rise like a balloon.
--
FF
[email protected] wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
> > >
> >
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/msg/481ed4d155061379?dmode=
> > >source
> > >
> > Guess I must've been to busy ignoring you to have seen that one...
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
> >
> > Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his
> butt.
> > And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
>
> Would you be so kind as to post a link for me?
>
No answer, no surprise.
Typical of the moral cowardice of the Bush administration and its
supporters. They stay 'on message' while judiciously avoiding
any consideration of the basis, fact, fantasy or bald-faced lie,
of that message.
They won't come out and debate because they know they know they
have nothing to justify their position.
--
FF
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >> Doug Miller wrote:
> >> > In article
<[email protected]>,
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/msg/481ed4d155061379?dmode
> >=
> >> > >source
> >> > >
> >> > Guess I must've been to busy ignoring you to have seen that
one...
> >> >
> >>
> >> Would you be so kind as to post a link for me?
> >>
> >
> >No answer, no surprise.
>
> How could I possibly post a link to something that I hadn't seen?
Google and ALtavista are your friends.
More to the point, I hadn't identified the target yet--was waiting
to see if you'd agree.
However, I'll go ahead and assume you'll agree.
Could you please post a link to a discussion of the shelf
life of Iraqi chemical weapons, taking into account the
information obtained by UNSCOM from 1991 through 1993?
--
FF
In article <FPg3e.871363$8l.181314@pd7tw1no>, Clint <[email protected]> wrote:
>But they don't support binaries groups, like
>alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking... Anyone have reasonably priced
>suggestions for a news server that supports that group as well?
>
>"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 1 Apr 2005 09:42:23 -0800, Mr Fixit eh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I have been using Google Groups to access the rec. There doesn't seem
>> > to be any way to filter these idiot spammers in Google. What would you
>> > recommend as an alternative?
>>
>> I subscribe to news.individual.net for 13 bucks a year. The flood was
>> in the group last night, and gone today. They filter aggressively
>> and block almost all the spam I see people complain about. You can use
>> any newsreader software on any system to access it.
>>
>> They were free for many years, went paid recently (as of today,
>> in fact), and I happily paid up. The servers are stable, quick,
>> and clean.
>
>
Not to pull a clintonism, but that depends on what you mean by "reasonably
priced". <grin>
if you consider the $5-10/month range 'reasonable', look at:
www.supernews.com
www.newsguy.com
www.giganews.com
Also see <http://www.newsreaders.com/newsfeeds/index.html> for a lot of
additional choices.
www.teranews.com is offering free (well, one-time $3.95 set-up fee), accounts
with a 50mb/day transfer limit.
On 1 Apr 2005 09:42:23 -0800, Mr Fixit eh <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have been using Google Groups to access the rec. There doesn't seem
> to be any way to filter these idiot spammers in Google. What would you
> recommend as an alternative?
I subscribe to news.individual.net for 13 bucks a year. The flood was
in the group last night, and gone today. They filter aggressively
and block almost all the spam I see people complain about. You can use
any newsreader software on any system to access it.
They were free for many years, went paid recently (as of today,
in fact), and I happily paid up. The servers are stable, quick,
and clean.
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:56:37 GMT, Clint <[email protected]> wrote:
> But they don't support binaries groups, like
> alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking... Anyone have reasonably priced
> suggestions for a news server that supports that group as well?
Someone has a website that mirrors that group, I think? Dunno, hasn't
been enough of an annoyance for me to look into. I'd like to have
a feed for that, though.
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:36:58 GMT, Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>Doug Miller wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> >Don't read the articles that don't have a subject line that
>>interests
>>> >you.
>>>
>>> How ironic to hear that coming from you, Fred.
>>>
>>
>>How so?
>>
> Do you *really* need that spelled out for you?
Naah, ferd just wants to waste your time.
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:34:03 GMT, Clint <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, I've already got 4 different news servers setup right now; I guess one
> more won't hurt... :)
Why 4? I can see 2, but what are you getting from where if I may ask?
Dave
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 23:26:18 GMT, Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm talking about your repeated badgering of Dave Hinz to stop posting
> off-topic.
What, is he _still_ at that? Killfiles are, indeed, a wonderful thing.
> If his OT posts bothered you that much, the solution is
> _real_simple_, Fred. As you said yourself --
> Don't read them.
If I was the type to snipe at someone who I have killfiled, I'd do that
at this point.
Dave Hinz
Mr Fixit eh wrote:
> I have been using Google Groups to access the rec. There doesn't seem
> to be any way to filter these idiot spammers in Google. What would you
> recommend as an alternative?
Just a passing thought. Have you tried seeing if your ISP has a
NNTP server and using your browser's newsreader to access it?
Then you'd have whatever anti-spam capailities come with it and
the ability to ad newsproxy/netfilter.
Dave in Fairfax
--
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reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
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http://www.woodturner.org
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http://www.capwoodturners.org/
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/msg/481ed4d155061379?dmode
>=
>> > >source
>> > >
>> > Guess I must've been to busy ignoring you to have seen that one...
>> >
>>
>> Would you be so kind as to post a link for me?
>>
>
>No answer, no surprise.
How could I possibly post a link to something that I hadn't seen?
>
>Typical of the moral cowardice of the Bush administration and its
>supporters. They stay 'on message' while judiciously avoiding
>any consideration of the basis, fact, fantasy or bald-faced lie,
>of that message.
>
>They won't come out and debate because they know they know they
>have nothing to justify their position.
>
Typical of the liberal left: abuse and namecalling.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
But they don't support binaries groups, like
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking... Anyone have reasonably priced
suggestions for a news server that supports that group as well?
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1 Apr 2005 09:42:23 -0800, Mr Fixit eh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have been using Google Groups to access the rec. There doesn't seem
> > to be any way to filter these idiot spammers in Google. What would you
> > recommend as an alternative?
>
> I subscribe to news.individual.net for 13 bucks a year. The flood was
> in the group last night, and gone today. They filter aggressively
> and block almost all the spam I see people complain about. You can use
> any newsreader software on any system to access it.
>
> They were free for many years, went paid recently (as of today,
> in fact), and I happily paid up. The servers are stable, quick,
> and clean.
In article <[email protected]>, "Mr Fixit eh" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have been using Google Groups to access the rec. There doesn't seem
>to be any way to filter these idiot spammers in Google. What would you
>recommend as an alternative?
While Google is a great tool for searching newsgroup archives for specific
information, if you're looking for something for reading groups on an ongoing
basis, pretty much anything else, even Outhouse Express, is better.
"Which newsreader to use" is a topic that comes up here pretty often. You
could use Google :-) to search for more info on that, but the newsreaders most
often recommended seem to be Agent, Free Agent, and Gravity.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>> > In article
>>> > <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>http://groups-
beta.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/msg/481ed4d1550613
>>>79?dmode
>>=
>>> > >source
>>> > >
>>> > Guess I must've been to busy ignoring you to have seen that one...
>>> >
>>>
>>> Would you be so kind as to post a link for me?
>>>
>>
>>No answer, no surprise.
>
> How could I possibly post a link to something that I hadn't seen?
>>
>>Typical of the moral cowardice of the Bush administration and its
>>supporters. They stay 'on message' while judiciously avoiding
>>any consideration of the basis, fact, fantasy or bald-faced lie,
>>of that message.
>>
>>They won't come out and debate because they know they know they
>>have nothing to justify their position.
>>
> Typical of the liberal left: abuse and namecalling.
Wouldn't you guys be better off spending your time on the pointy stick
thingy thread?
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>Doug Miller wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >Don't read the articles that don't have a subject line that
>interests
>> >you.
>>
>> How ironic to hear that coming from you, Fred.
>>
>
>How so?
>
Do you *really* need that spelled out for you?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>Doug Miller wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >Doug Miller wrote:
>> >> In article
><[email protected]>,
>> >[email protected] wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Doug Miller wrote:
>> >> >> In article
>> ><[email protected]>,
>> >> >[email protected] wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Don't read the articles that don't have a subject line that
>> >> >interests
>> >> >> >you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How ironic to hear that coming from you, Fred.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >How so?
>> >> >
>> >> Do you *really* need that spelled out for you?
>> >>
>> >
>> >I already spelled out for you that I was very interested in
>> >a particular topic and therefor wanted to discuss in a
>> >newsgroup in which it was on-topic.
>> >
>> >There no way an honest person would represent that I was not
>> >interested in the subject. I thought perhaps you were going
>> >to do that.
>>
>> I'm talking about your repeated badgering of Dave Hinz to stop
>posting
>> off-topic. If his OT posts bothered you that much, the solution is
>> _real_simple_, Fred. As you said yourself --
>>
>> Don't read them.
>
>I also spelled out for Mr Hinz that I was very interested in
>that particular topic and therefor wanted to discuss in a
>newsgroup in which it was on-topic.
Mind citing a post in which you said that? From here, it looked more like you
were just being argumentative. Just like you are now.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
[email protected] wrote:
>
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 23:26:18 GMT, Doug Miller <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm talking about your repeated badgering of Dave Hinz to stop
> posting
>> > off-topic.
>>
>> What, is he _still_ at that? Killfiles are, indeed, a wonderful
> thing.
>>
>> > If his OT posts bothered you that much, the solution is
>> > _real_simple_, Fred. As you said yourself --
>> > Don't read them.
>>
>> If I was the type to snipe at someone who I have killfiled, I'd do
> that
>> at this point.
>>
>
> So that's your excuse for not explaining just exactly what your
> problem was with the concept of a hydrogen generator being a
> conventional military asset.
So what is the conventional military utility of a hydrogen generator?
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
[email protected] wrote:
>
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Dave Hinz wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 23:26:18 GMT, Doug Miller
> <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm talking about your repeated badgering of Dave Hinz to stop
>> > posting
>> >> > off-topic.
>> >>
>> >> What, is he _still_ at that? Killfiles are, indeed, a wonderful
>> > thing.
>> >>
>> >> > If his OT posts bothered you that much, the solution is
>> >> > _real_simple_, Fred. As you said yourself --
>> >> > Don't read them.
>> >>
>> >> If I was the type to snipe at someone who I have killfiled, I'd do
>> > that
>> >> at this point.
>> >>
>> >
>> > So that's your excuse for not explaining just exactly what your
>> > problem was with the concept of a hydrogen generator being a
>> > conventional military asset.
>>
>> So what is the conventional military utility of a hydrogen generator?
>>
>
> They are used to fill weather balloons that are used to determine
> winds aloft so that proper corrections my be applied by the
> aritillery units to which the hydrogen gnerators are attached.
> Perhaps Mr Hinz thought they were to be used for hydrogen bombs.
> I dunno, he refused to answer.
Sounds rather quaint.
>
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Download Netscape 7.1 and use their news reader. It works
just fine and has "fair" filtering. It pretty friendly
and the idjits don't try to fool with Netscape like they
do to IE...
Mr Fixit eh wrote:
> I have been using Google Groups to access the rec. There doesn't seem
> to be any way to filter these idiot spammers in Google. What would you
> recommend as an alternative?
The other ones (besides my regular ISP) are MS servers. One private beta
group, one public, and one private partner group. Kind of a pain in the
patotie, to be honest. Different passwords on both of the private ones, as
well.
Clint
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:34:03 GMT, Clint <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, I've already got 4 different news servers setup right now; I guess
>> one
>> more won't hurt... :)
>
> Why 4? I can see 2, but what are you getting from where if I may ask?
>
> Dave
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>Doug Miller wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >Doug Miller wrote:
>> >> In article
><[email protected]>,
>> >[email protected] wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Don't read the articles that don't have a subject line that
>> >interests
>> >> >you.
>> >>
>> >> How ironic to hear that coming from you, Fred.
>> >>
>> >
>> >How so?
>> >
>> Do you *really* need that spelled out for you?
>>
>
>I already spelled out for you that I was very interested in
>a particular topic and therefor wanted to discuss in a
>newsgroup in which it was on-topic.
I'm talking about your repeated badgering of Dave Hinz to stop posting
off-topic. If his OT posts bothered you that much, the solution is
_real_simple_, Fred. As you said yourself --
Don't read them.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Well, I've already got 4 different news servers setup right now; I guess one
more won't hurt... :)
Clint
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:56:37 GMT, Clint <[email protected]> wrote:
> > But they don't support binaries groups, like
> > alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking... Anyone have reasonably priced
> > suggestions for a news server that supports that group as well?
>
> Someone has a website that mirrors that group, I think? Dunno, hasn't
> been enough of an annoyance for me to look into. I'd like to have
> a feed for that, though.
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/msg/481ed4d155061379?dmode=
>source
>
Guess I must've been to busy ignoring you to have seen that one...
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?