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"brianlanning"

01/02/2006 8:01 PM

Disk sander/adhesive sandpaper question

How do I make it stick?! The assembly instructions say to clean off
the disk first, but the disk looks spotless. Both the included 12"
disk and the k(l)ingsp(l)or disk have real low-tack adhesive. It won't
stick to the metal disk. Am I doing something wrong here? Are they
all like this and I need to pick up a can of spray adhesive? What's
the deal?

brian


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"brianlanning"

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 7:56 AM

>If you are saying that you have a Kingspor PSA disk, I would advise not
>using it. And use a better brand.

It came right from robin lee. I've also seen a lot of posts claiming
to like the klingsplor stuff, especially for drum sanders.

It was a bit cold, but not too bad, maybe 50 degrees. Could be a thin
coat of oil also, but again I doubt it. The disk adhesive is *really*
low tack. I'll try the spray adhesive.

brian

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"brianlanning"

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 7:56 AM

>I know that this doesn't answer your question But what I've done is
>purchase velcro kits on all my disks.

That's the plan. But I haven't been able to find one yet.

brian

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"brianlanning"

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 9:11 AM

>Robin Lee did not manufacture the paper.

I know. I'm just sort of surprised if it's not so good. He seems to
carry the good stuff.

I think you're right about the adhesive. I bet it's trying to achieve
a balance between stickiness and removeablility. And the balance gets
upset when it's too cold.

brian

JJ

JGS

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 6:46 AM

Hi Brian,
The disks I use (no-name chinese ones) need two hand to peel them off the
metal disk. I believe Leon mentioned staying away from adhesive Klingspore
products. JG

brianlanning wrote:

> How do I make it stick?! The assembly instructions say to clean off
> the disk first, but the disk looks spotless. Both the included 12"
> disk and the k(l)ingsp(l)or disk have real low-tack adhesive. It won't
> stick to the metal disk. Am I doing something wrong here? Are they
> all like this and I need to pick up a can of spray adhesive? What's
> the deal?
>
> brian

GG

"George"

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 6:40 AM


"brianlanning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How do I make it stick?! The assembly instructions say to clean off
> the disk first, but the disk looks spotless. Both the included 12"
> disk and the k(l)ingsp(l)or disk have real low-tack adhesive. It won't
> stick to the metal disk. Am I doing something wrong here? Are they
> all like this and I need to pick up a can of spray adhesive? What's
> the deal?
>

I reinforce with 3M 77 spray. It appears compatible with the stickum on the
paper. You do have to exercise a great deal of car in alignment or risk
messing up the stickiness when moving the paper. Might be your problem, and
one that seems easier to beat with the thicker adhesive.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 4:01 PM


"brianlanning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >If you are saying that you have a Kingspor PSA disk, I would advise not
>>using it. And use a better brand.
>
> It came right from robin lee. I've also seen a lot of posts claiming
> to like the klingsplor stuff, especially for drum sanders.

Robin Lee did not manufacture the paper.
The Kingspor sand paper is good, its their PSA paper that is bad when it
comes to sticking like PSA paper should. I like the PSA for hand sanding
and using a block of wood that I can throw away when the sand paper wears
out.

> It was a bit cold, but not too bad, maybe 50 degrees. Could be a thin
> coat of oil also, but again I doubt it. The disk adhesive is *really*
> low tack. I'll try the spray adhesive.

Warm the disk and paper up with a heated hair blow dryer.


dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 12:43 PM

brianlanning wrote:
> How do I make it stick?! The assembly instructions say to clean off
> the disk first, but the disk looks spotless. Both the included 12"
> disk and the k(l)ingsp(l)or disk have real low-tack adhesive. It
> won't stick to the metal disk. Am I doing something wrong here? Are
> they all like this and I need to pick up a can of spray adhesive?
> What's the deal?

Get a bottle of Franklin Disk Adhesive. Sears usually has it.


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"Leon"

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 2:58 PM


"brianlanning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How do I make it stick?! The assembly instructions say to clean off
> the disk first, but the disk looks spotless. Both the included 12"
> disk and the k(l)ingsp(l)or disk have real low-tack adhesive. It won't
> stick to the metal disk. Am I doing something wrong here? Are they
> all like this and I need to pick up a can of spray adhesive? What's
> the deal?
>
> brian


If you are saying that you have a Kingspor PSA disk, I would advise not
using it. And use a better brand. I have a roll of Kingspor PSA sand paper
and a box of their disks that are a bear to remove from any of my sanders.
Their sand paper is good but 3M and PC make much better PSA paper.

With that in mind, if the paper will not stick at all I have no suggestion.
Typically PSA paper is not real sticky but its bond becomes greater as it
warms up from use. You disk may have a very light film of oil on it. I
would wipe it down with Acetone and reapply the paper at room temperature.
If the disk is cold it could be part of the problem.

JB

John B

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 2:00 PM

brianlanning wrote:
> How do I make it stick?! The assembly instructions say to clean off
> the disk first, but the disk looks spotless. Both the included 12"
> disk and the k(l)ingsp(l)or disk have real low-tack adhesive. It won't
> stick to the metal disk. Am I doing something wrong here? Are they
> all like this and I need to pick up a can of spray adhesive? What's
> the deal?
>
> brian
>

G'day Brian,
I know that this doesn't answer your question But what I've done is
purchase velcro kits on all my disks.
The disks are a little more expensive but you have no problems replacing
them.
Another upside is that you can change and replace disks whenever you like.
This will probably actualy save a few bob if you need to have differing
grits for various jobs.
Regards
John

md

mac davis

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 8:20 PM

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:58:55 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>With that in mind, if the paper will not stick at all I have no suggestion.
>Typically PSA paper is not real sticky but its bond becomes greater as it
>warms up from use. You disk may have a very light film of oil on it. I
>would wipe it down with Acetone and reapply the paper at room temperature.
>If the disk is cold it could be part of the problem.
>

yeah... I was going to pipe in with the temperature thing, thanks, Leon...

I use the 12" aluminum disk on the shopsmith and I've found that if I use
self-adheasive disks I have to warm up the disk with the heat gun first if the
temperature is lower than about 60 degrees or so..
Mac
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

Cs

"CW"

in reply to "brianlanning" on 01/02/2006 8:01 PM

02/02/2006 6:37 PM

A piece of metal may look clean and not be. Wipe it down with solvent. Be
careful about what you use to glue the disk on. After it has been used a
while, it will stick very tightly and could be extremely difficult to
remove. As for the Velcro, it may work for you depending on what you want.
The problem can be that it causes a bit of give. This is fine for surface
sanding but if you are doing edges, it may be enough to prevent you from
getting a crisp edge.

"brianlanning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >I know that this doesn't answer your question But what I've done is
> >purchase velcro kits on all my disks.
>
> That's the plan. But I haven't been able to find one yet.
>
> brian
>


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