Ingvar Kamprad has by many been ranked as one of the top 3 richest
people on Earth.
The founder of IKEA has not lost much during this last economic down
turn.
Together with a few other heavy hitters, he has raised enough to bail
out GM world-wide.
Just amazing...
He intends to continue to produce cars, knowing what he knows about
economy of scale, and mass production, and of course outsourcing.
Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ingvar Kamprad has by many been ranked as one of the top 3 richest
> people on Earth.
> The founder of IKEA has not lost much during this last economic down
> turn.
> Together with a few other heavy hitters, he has raised enough to bail
> out GM world-wide.
> Just amazing...
> He intends to continue to produce cars, knowing what he knows about
> economy of scale, and mass production, and of course outsourcing.
>
> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>
> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
Back in the day, either the Model A or the Model T was sold in a kit form.
You had to take the crate apart carefully. Because it became the
floorboards. So it has been done. Although the cars were much simpler
then.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>> Ingvar Kamprad has by many been ranked as one of the top 3 richest
>> people on Earth.
>> The founder of IKEA has not lost much during this last economic down
>> turn.
>> Together with a few other heavy hitters, he has raised enough to bail
>> out GM world-wide.
>> Just amazing...
>> He intends to continue to produce cars, knowing what he knows about
>> economy of scale, and mass production, and of course outsourcing.
>>
>> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>>
>> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
>
>
> I was/am hoping you are serious.
>
One of the ideas floated around by the alternative energy folks is the "kit
car" concept. This is usually associated with fuel cells. Can you imagine
the reaction of Detroit and the UAW over a legitimate kit car?
As for hoping that Robatoy is serious.... I wouldn't bet any money on that
one.
Dave in Houston wrote:
>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>>
>>
http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
>
> A Vega Wagon?
>
But it runs on sawdust.
--
Froz...
On Feb 26, 1:50=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Robatoy" =A0wrote
>
> >and here Lee thought I was never serious.
>
> Oh we know that you can be serious, when it comes to those fake counterto=
ps.
> :-)
And as long as my clients don't write me fake cheques, I'll be a happy
camper.
Incidentally, this 'recession' has people shifting from solid surface
to quartz. My quartz business is up 30- 40 % over Jan/Feb last year
while solid surface is down about 20%. A change I can believe in. :-^
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> Ingvar Kamprad has by many been ranked as one of the top 3 richest
> people on Earth.
> The founder of IKEA has not lost much during this last economic down
> turn.
> Together with a few other heavy hitters, he has raised enough to bail
> out GM world-wide.
> Just amazing...
> He intends to continue to produce cars, knowing what he knows about
> economy of scale, and mass production, and of course outsourcing.
>
> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>
> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
I was/am hoping you are serious.
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:19:11 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>> Ingvar Kamprad has by many been ranked as one of the top 3 richest
>> people on Earth.
>> The founder of IKEA has not lost much during this last economic down
>> turn.
>> Together with a few other heavy hitters, he has raised enough to bail
>> out GM world-wide.
>> Just amazing...
>> He intends to continue to produce cars, knowing what he knows about
>> economy of scale, and mass production, and of course outsourcing.
>>
>> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>>
>> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
>
>
>Back in the day, either the Model A or the Model T was sold in a kit form.
>You had to take the crate apart carefully. Because it became the
>floorboards. So it has been done. Although the cars were much simpler
>then.
>
>
Henry Ford required the providers of hardware (nuts, bolts) to ship
the items in wooden cases of very specific dimensions - the wooden
case pieces became the floorboards of the cars. (Somewhere I have my
grandfather's copy of the book "Ford at Fifty" which has bits of
trivia mixed in with the drier historical data.)
One Ford VP gave his just-got-my-license son a Mustang in the 60's -
as a garage full of parts and a mechanic to help him assemble it.
Wonder if the kid was more careful with the car because of the hours
he put into it?
John
On Feb 25, 4:29=A0pm, "Dave in Houston" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>
> >http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=3Dview¤t=
=3D...
>
> =A0 =A0 A Vega Wagon?
>
> Dave in Houston
No, I believe that is a VW Rabbit/Golf, probably a Mark 3. I remember
that ad campaign.
On Feb 26, 12:23=A0pm, "David G. Nagel" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Leon wrote:
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com..=
.
> >> Ingvar Kamprad has by many been ranked as one of the top 3 richest
> >> people on Earth.
> >> The founder of IKEA has not lost much during this last economic down
> >> turn.
> >> Together with a few other heavy hitters, he has raised enough to bail
> >> out GM world-wide.
> >> Just amazing...
> >> He intends to continue to produce cars, knowing what he knows about
> >> economy of scale, and mass production, and of course outsourcing.
>
> >> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>
> >>http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=3Dview¤t=
=3D...
>
> > I was/am hoping you are serious.
>
> Ingvar was a close friend and business partner with one of my Swedish
> cousins. My cousin declined to become a partner in IKEA as CFO when IKEA
> was started.
> OH well, I really don't care for most of their designs anyway.
I love IKEA. They sell really neat modular kitchens and for a decent
price. That leaves the home-owner with some money to buy a Staron
solid surface countertop, which IKEA also sells and shows...and *I*
fabricate and install...."TaDaaa!!!" Profit!
Add to that, that IKEA only shows a limited amount of colours and that
makes it easy for me to stock 8 sheets at the time and saving huge on
shipping and quantity discount.
IKEA's on-line cabinet lay-out/ordering program (which looks a lot
like SU, g.d & r) makes it really easy.
.
.
and here Lee thought I was never serious.
Leon wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>> Ingvar Kamprad has by many been ranked as one of the top 3 richest
>> people on Earth.
>> The founder of IKEA has not lost much during this last economic down
>> turn.
>> Together with a few other heavy hitters, he has raised enough to bail
>> out GM world-wide.
>> Just amazing...
>> He intends to continue to produce cars, knowing what he knows about
>> economy of scale, and mass production, and of course outsourcing.
>>
>> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>>
>> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
>
>
> I was/am hoping you are serious.
>
>
Ingvar was a close friend and business partner with one of my Swedish
cousins. My cousin declined to become a partner in IKEA as CFO when IKEA
was started.
OH well, I really don't care for most of their designs anyway.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dave in Houston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>>>
>>> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
>>
>> A Vega Wagon?
>>
>> Dave in Houston
>>
>
> Vega Wagons had 2 doors, actually I think all 4 body styles had 2 doors.
Can I get that with the Cosworth four-banger?
Dave in Houston
[email protected] wrote:
> One Ford VP gave his just-got-my-license son a Mustang in the 60's -
> as a garage full of parts and a mechanic to help him assemble it.
> Wonder if the kid was more careful with the car because of the hours
> he put into it?
A friend of mine bought a '66 Mustang as a first car for his 16 year old
kid, and they spent endless hours together restoring it (I think the kid
was more or less "forced" to participate). And you guessed it; within a
few months of getting his license and taking delivery of the car his kid
had totaled the damn thing...
--
See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>
> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
A Vega Wagon?
Dave in Houston
"Dave in Houston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>>
>> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
>
> A Vega Wagon?
>
> Dave in Houston
>
Vega Wagons had 2 doors, actually I think all 4 body styles had 2 doors.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dave in Houston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Can I get that with the Cosworth four-banger?
>
>
> Now you're talkin. I wonder if those engines held up any better. IIRC
> they essentially used the same Vega engine block but had a shorter stroke.
> And then there was the Cosworth head.
Aluminum head? Warping problems? Maybe some other motor.
Too much information over the past 35 or 40 years.
But, tell me this if you can, Leon: If NASCAR is still running pushrod
engines then how is Toyota complying with the regs? Isn't their 5.7 truck
motor overhead cam(s)? Of course, I am assuming that motor/block is the
basis for their racing engines. I suppose the rules must allow them to
fabricate pushrod heads. But then, where does the cam (do the cams) go?
Dave in Houston
"Dave in Houston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Dave in Houston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>
>>> Can I get that with the Cosworth four-banger?
>>
>>
>> Now you're talkin. I wonder if those engines held up any better. IIRC
>> they essentially used the same Vega engine block but had a shorter
>> stroke. And then there was the Cosworth head.
>
> Aluminum head? Warping problems? Maybe some other motor.
> Too much information over the past 35 or 40 years.
In so much that nearly every Vega blew it's head gasket with the aluminum
block/iron head configuration, I am not so sure that the addition of the
Cosworth aluminum head would have add any less reliability from that stand
point. LOL The standard engine wa s rough running SOG. I suspect that
that contributed to its many problems.
When I was a kid I had a new Vega and was skeptical of any aluminum
block/head combination coming out of Detroit because of the problem I had
with the engine. It's not like I neglected the engine, I replaced the short
block in my parents garage when I was 19. I knew what you needed to do to
maintain a car. :~) A piston skirt broke on mine and that in turn punched
a hole in the aluminum cylinder. The engine locked up pretty quick, having
sucked coolant into the cylinder. I'm glad I was not on the freeway then it
happened.
>
> But, tell me this if you can, Leon: If NASCAR is still running pushrod
> engines then how is Toyota complying with the regs? Isn't their 5.7 truck
> motor overhead cam(s)? Of course, I am assuming that motor/block is the
> basis for their racing engines. I suppose the rules must allow them to
> fabricate pushrod heads. But then, where does the cam (do the cams) go?
You are asking the wrong person. I made my living in the automotive
business for many years but that was work. LOL. Does NASCAR require push
rod engines or factory configured engines? Can they use any factory engine
that they want?
Yeah, the 5.7L engine is a DOHC design so there are 4 cam shafts, driven by
a chains vs. belt/belts, thank goodness. Compared to most Japanese engines
this one does not have any required scheduled parts replacement preventative
naintainence. Yeah it can still have a timing chain go bad but I have to
hope that the engine is a non-interference design.
I can not easily see how that block could be configured to run with push rod
heads, like you said, where would you put the cam.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>> One Ford VP gave his just-got-my-license son a Mustang in the 60's -
>> as a garage full of parts and a mechanic to help him assemble it.
>> Wonder if the kid was more careful with the car because of the hours
>> he put into it?
>
> A friend of mine bought a '66 Mustang as a first car for his 16 year old
> kid, and they spent endless hours together restoring it (I think the kid
> was more or less "forced" to participate). And you guessed it; within a
> few months of getting his license and taking delivery of the car his kid
> had totaled the damn thing...
>
> --
> See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
> To reply, eat the taco.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
I knew someone and their kid who did the exact same thing.
Kid's name didn't happen to be Russell, did it?
lol
Joe wrote:
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> A friend of mine bought a '66 Mustang as a first car for his 16 year old
>> kid, and they spent endless hours together restoring it (I think the kid
>> was more or less "forced" to participate). And you guessed it; within a
>> few months of getting his license and taking delivery of the car his kid
>> had totaled the damn thing...
>
> I knew someone and their kid who did the exact same thing.
>
> Kid's name didn't happen to be Russell, did it?
>
> lol
No.
--
See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
Robatoy wrote:
> On Feb 26, 12:23 pm, "David G. Nagel" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Ingvar Kamprad has by many been ranked as one of the top 3 richest
>>>> people on Earth.
>>>> The founder of IKEA has not lost much during this last economic down
>>>> turn.
>>>> Together with a few other heavy hitters, he has raised enough to bail
>>>> out GM world-wide.
>>>> Just amazing...
>>>> He intends to continue to produce cars, knowing what he knows about
>>>> economy of scale, and mass production, and of course outsourcing.
>>>> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>>>> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=...
>>> I was/am hoping you are serious.
>> Ingvar was a close friend and business partner with one of my Swedish
>> cousins. My cousin declined to become a partner in IKEA as CFO when IKEA
>> was started.
>> OH well, I really don't care for most of their designs anyway.
>
> I love IKEA. They sell really neat modular kitchens and for a decent
> price. That leaves the home-owner with some money to buy a Staron
> solid surface countertop, which IKEA also sells and shows...and *I*
> fabricate and install...."TaDaaa!!!" Profit!
> Add to that, that IKEA only shows a limited amount of colours and that
> makes it easy for me to stock 8 sheets at the time and saving huge on
> shipping and quantity discount.
> IKEA's on-line cabinet lay-out/ordering program (which looks a lot
> like SU, g.d & r) makes it really easy.
> .
> .
> and here Lee thought I was never serious.
I didn't say that I didn't like the IKEA product line, just that I
didn't care for it. I'd feel the same if my cousin had become the CFO.
"Dave in Houston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Dave in Houston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:86327fc3-9fd2-4290-bb99-5f6f172352ca@l38g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Only one model will be added to the line of GM cars.
>>>>
>>>> http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/?action=view¤t=3AFB.jpg
>>>
>>> A Vega Wagon?
>>>
>>> Dave in Houston
>>>
>>
>> Vega Wagons had 2 doors, actually I think all 4 body styles had 2 doors.
>
>
> Can I get that with the Cosworth four-banger?
Now you're talkin. I wonder if those engines held up any better. IIRC they
essentially used the same Vega engine block but had a shorter stroke. And
then there was the Cosworth head.