Ll

Leon

09/01/2014 8:16 PM

Actual Woodworking

I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.

What they should look like,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863453395/

One of 4 lower side panels

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11864320296/

The panel glue up for the raised panel doors

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863780993/

The raised panel door dry fit

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863922504/

The fit inside the dry fit lower cabinet

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863787413/

And the outside of the dry fit lower cabinet

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863790753/


This topic has 23 replies

wn

woodchucker

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 8:00 PM

On 1/11/2014 6:34 PM, Leon wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11896092103/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11895780955/
Nice as always.


--
Jeff

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

10/01/2014 3:28 AM

On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:16:30 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
> I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.

Looking good!

Asking everyone....
Is there a preference, these days, for the type of glass, plate or tempered, to be used in such cabinets? I know there are code requirements in/for home construction, but recently I've wondered about considerations or preferences for such cabinets.

I have some small bathroom corner cabinets in the works and I was thinking to use tempered glass, though it isn't required (to my knowledge).

Somewhat related: I'm aware there are cabinet glass doors (no wooden frame) that are tempered. Is this a requirement or a practical preference? *Understanding differnet locales having different requirements.

Sonny

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

09/01/2014 8:38 PM


"Mike Marlow" wrote:
>
> Yeah, yeah, yeah... so my only question is where in the hell did you
> get all those clamps?
-------------------------------------
Probably at the Ye Old Clamp Store.

Lew

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

10/01/2014 8:21 AM

On 1/10/2014 12:28 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 20:16:30 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> One of 4 lower side panels
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11864320296/
>
> Really nice grain on those panels. Will be very nice looking units.
>


I hope so. ;`)

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

10/01/2014 8:20 AM

On 1/10/2014 5:28 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:16:30 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>> I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.
>
> Looking good!
>
> Asking everyone....
> Is there a preference, these days, for the type of glass, plate or tempered, to be used in such cabinets? I know there are code requirements in/for home construction, but recently I've wondered about considerations or preferences for such cabinets.
>
> I have some small bathroom corner cabinets in the works and I was thinking to use tempered glass, though it isn't required (to my knowledge).
>
> Somewhat related: I'm aware there are cabinet glass doors (no wooden frame) that are tempered. Is this a requirement or a practical preference? *Understanding differnet locales having different requirements.
>
> Sonny
>

Thank you

The glass except for the mirror on the back side will be tempered, about
$20 more per piece of glass in this situation. IIRC the 1/4" thick
glass shelves will not be.

Basically it is a good choice if there will be any chance of kids or
pets coming in contact withe the glass.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 9:20 AM

On 1/10/2014 9:52 AM, jloomis wrote:
> Great pictures of a nice piece.
>
> appreciate the accuracy, the sharp lines, oh, and the clean shop.....
> wow.
> john
>


Well, Thank you, and thank you, John!

I religiously use my dust collector and sweep up at the end of each day.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 12:11 PM

On 1/9/2014 8:16 PM, Leon wrote:


The glue up and a few clamps. If i had roome I would have used more
clamps. ;~) 22 clamps counting the spring clamps to hold the cauls in
place.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11891594166/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11890758245/in/photostream/

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 5:34 PM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11896092103/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11895780955/

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 7:14 PM

On 1/11/2014 6:01 PM, WW wrote:
>
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11896092103/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11895780955/
>
>
> Leon... Looked at all the photos. What do you do in your spare time??? WW
>
>

Honey do's

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 7:16 PM

On 1/11/2014 7:07 PM, basilisk wrote:
> On 01/11/2014 05:34 PM, Leon wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11896092103/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11895780955/
> looks nice, my first thought when looking at the subject was
> "dang need to run to the store for more clamps"
>
> I am always out of clamps.
>
> basilisk


LOL, I think I have hit the sweet spot on clamps quantity. Now I would
like to work on more shorter ones so that I don't have to use a 50"
clamp when 12" is needed.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 7:14 PM

On 1/11/2014 7:00 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 1/11/2014 6:34 PM, Leon wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11896092103/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11895780955/
> Nice as always.
>
>


Thank you

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

10/01/2014 12:21 AM

On 1/9/2014 9:44 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.
>>
>
> Yeah, yeah, yeah... so my only question is where in the hell did you get all
> those clamps?
>
>


Right over there, off of my clamp rack. ;~)

n

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

10/01/2014 6:42 AM

On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:28:17 -0800 (PST), Sonny <[email protected]>
>Is there a preference, these days, for the type of glass, plate or
>tempered, to be used in such cabinets? I know there are code
> requirements in/for home construction, but recently I've wondered
>about considerations or preferences for such cabinets.

Depends on what you're building and/or where the glass is going to be
used. For cabinet work such as entertainment centers, I have a
preference for 3/8" acrylic, usually a darkened colour. It's much
lighter than glass and easier to work.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 9:52 AM

On 1/10/2014 2:52 PM, Bill wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.
>>
>> What they should look like,
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863453395/
>
> Leon, It appears that you will rabbet the base pieces (or that you
> "effectively" rabbeted them by attaching "ledges" that run their length,
> and I'm sure you used corner bracing.
> I was thinking if you used ledges, then it would be easier to
> reinforce--with say "+"-shaped bracing with an overlapping joint in the
> middle, or maybe even better, a "X"-shaped bracing with an overlapping
> joint in the middle. Am I close, or would it be better for me to wait
> for the picture (providing you are willing to share that information)?
>
> Bill


Ok, yes, the front/back face frames and side panels will be joined by a
rabbet joint running along the length of the front and back face frames
sides.

The square assembled unit will be held square and reinforced by the
dadoed in 3/4" thick plywood bottom. Each side has a dado in the bottom
rails to accept the bottom panel.

Often a picture is worth a thousand words.

This shot shows the dados at the bottom of the front/back face frames
and the rabbet on the side edges. Clocked 90 degrees in the picture.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11889144346/in/photostream/

The first, back face frame, in the picture shows the inside side of the
back face frame. The next face frame, in line, is the outside side of
the back face frame. Notice that I used lap joints to form a recess for
the back panel to fit into. these joints are reinforced with 5mm Dominoes.

The next two face frames are the front face frames. Nothing special
with the joinery on those except that they are butt joints reinforced by
Dominoes.

The backs of the side panels, dry fit before inserting the panels and
glue up.

Now if you noticed that none of the face frames and or side panels
bottom rail dado's go through the side stiles, I later completed the
dado's on both ends on all face frames and side panels. I cooked up a
unique way to cut those out accurately, cleanly, and quite quickly.
I could have cut the dado's in the stiles before assembly but alignment
would have had to be perfect. Cutting them after glue up insures
perfect alignment.

Here is a shot of the completed dado's that the bottom will fit into.
I have also applied the first coat of varnish to the inside sides before
assembly. This really makes varnishing the inside of the cabinet easier.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11888682455/







Wc

"WW"

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 5:01 PM



"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11896092103/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11895780955/


Leon... Looked at all the photos. What do you do in your spare time??? WW

n

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

10/01/2014 1:28 AM

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 20:16:30 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>One of 4 lower side panels
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11864320296/

Really nice grain on those panels. Will be very nice looking units.

BB

Bill

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

09/01/2014 9:55 PM

Leon wrote:
> I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.

You take Most-Excellent pictures, Leon! : )



>
> What they should look like,
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863453395/
>
> One of 4 lower side panels
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11864320296/
>
> The panel glue up for the raised panel doors
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863780993/
>
> The raised panel door dry fit
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863922504/
>
> The fit inside the dry fit lower cabinet
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863787413/
>
> And the outside of the dry fit lower cabinet
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863790753/

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

09/01/2014 10:44 PM

Leon wrote:
> I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.
>

Yeah, yeah, yeah... so my only question is where in the hell did you get all
those clamps?


--

-Mike-
[email protected]

jj

"jloomis"

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

10/01/2014 7:52 AM

Great pictures of a nice piece.

appreciate the accuracy, the sharp lines, oh, and the clean shop.....
wow.
john

"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.

What they should look like,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863453395/

One of 4 lower side panels

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11864320296/

The panel glue up for the raised panel doors

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863780993/

The raised panel door dry fit

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863922504/

The fit inside the dry fit lower cabinet

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863787413/

And the outside of the dry fit lower cabinet

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863790753/

BB

Bill

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

10/01/2014 3:52 PM

Leon wrote:
> I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.
>
> What they should look like,
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863453395/

Leon, It appears that you will rabbet the base pieces (or that you
"effectively" rabbeted them by attaching "ledges" that run their length,
and I'm sure you used corner bracing.
I was thinking if you used ledges, then it would be easier to
reinforce--with say "+"-shaped bracing with an overlapping joint in the
middle, or maybe even better, a "X"-shaped bracing with an overlapping
joint in the middle. Am I close, or would it be better for me to wait
for the picture (providing you are willing to share that information)?

Bill


>
> One of 4 lower side panels
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11864320296/
>
> The panel glue up for the raised panel doors
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863780993/
>
> The raised panel door dry fit
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863922504/
>
> The fit inside the dry fit lower cabinet
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863787413/
>
> And the outside of the dry fit lower cabinet
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863790753/

BB

Bill

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 6:11 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 1/10/2014 2:52 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>> I have started a job for a customer, 2 walnut curio cabinets.
>>>
>>> What they should look like,
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11863453395/
>>
>> Leon, It appears that you will ... <snip> Am I close, or would it
>> be better for me to wait
>> for the picture (providing you are willing to share that information)?
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> Ok, yes, the front/back face frames and side panels will be joined by
> a rabbet joint running along the length of the front and back face
> frames sides.
Probably SOP to you, quite "clever" to me!
>
> The square assembled unit will be held square and reinforced by the
> dadoed in 3/4" thick plywood bottom. Each side has a dado in the
> bottom rails to accept the bottom panel.

Nice (and efficient) way to help get structural integrity.

>
> Often a picture is worth a thousand words.
>
> This shot shows the dados at the bottom of the front/back face frames
> and the rabbet on the side edges. Clocked 90 degrees in the picture.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11889144346/in/photostream/
>
> The first, back face frame, in the picture shows the inside side of
> the back face frame. The next face frame, in line, is the outside
> side of the back face frame. Notice that I used lap joints to form a
> recess for the back panel to fit into. these joints are reinforced
> with 5mm Dominoes.
>
> The next two face frames are the front face frames. Nothing special
> with the joinery on those except that they are butt joints reinforced
> by Dominoes.
>
> The backs of the side panels, dry fit before inserting the panels and
> glue up.
>
> Now if you noticed that none of the face frames and or side panels
> bottom rail dado's go through the side stiles, I later completed the
> dado's on both ends on all face frames and side panels. I cooked up a
> unique way to cut those out accurately, cleanly, and quite quickly.
> I could have cut the dado's in the stiles before assembly but
> alignment would have had to be perfect. Cutting them after glue up
> insures perfect alignment.
>
> Here is a shot of the completed dado's that the bottom will fit into.
> I have also applied the first coat of varnish to the inside sides
> before assembly. This really makes varnishing the inside of the
> cabinet easier.
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11888682455/
>

Thank you very much for providing a lesson! I don't think Michael
Fortune could do any better. I'm always impressed when I see wonderful
techniques, and maybe I shouldn't be so surprised when they are
revealed, but that keeps me coming back for more!

Bill


>
>
>
>

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 10:07 AM

Oops!



>
> The backs of the side panels, dry fit before inserting the panels and
> glue up.
>

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11888311895/in/photostream/





bb

basilisk

in reply to Leon on 09/01/2014 8:16 PM

11/01/2014 7:07 PM

On 01/11/2014 05:34 PM, Leon wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11896092103/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/11895780955/
looks nice, my first thought when looking at the subject was
"dang need to run to the store for more clamps"

I am always out of clamps.

basilisk


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