Ll

"Lee"

19/03/2007 1:54 AM

poly 1st coat

I am using oil based poly. Should I dilute the first coat 1/1 with spirits
to get good penetration?
Next coats full strength? ( sanded between the coats naturally)
Thanks
Lee


This topic has 9 replies

nn

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

18/03/2007 9:37 PM

On Mar 18, 8:23 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thinning is good, but it does not have to be that much. I >use about 10-15%. Three more coats full strength, then >wet sand with 600 grit, pumice, rottenstone, paste >wax. Now you have a very nice finish.

Looks, good no doubt.

But a question here for you EP, just wondering, why do you paste wax
on top of your finish?

Robert

Oo

"Oughtsix"

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

19/03/2007 6:13 PM

Several years ago this board turned me onto using 1/3 varnish 1/3 oil
(Tung or BLO) and 1/3 turpentine (mineral spirits is fine I just don't
find the turpentine to have as an objectionable smell). I have used
this mixture ever since. I usually mix up a small batch of this and
keep on adding varnish to it after I have used half the batch or so
thickening it up. This finish levels itself off very nicely and goes
on nicely with a rag or a painting pad depending on the surface area
to be covered. Many many light coats a couple hours apart works best
for me. Let it dry for quite a few days then sand and apply a final
coat that has been thinned to equal proportions and you will have a
very smooth finish.

I find oil based finishes make lighter wood yellow but makes darker
wood very warm and really pops the grain.

nn

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

19/03/2007 10:56 PM

On Mar 19, 8:45 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Makes it shine and enriches the depth of the finish. Makes a huge
> difference.

I guess I always think of maintenance and repair, since that is part
of what I do. I have always liked the smooth, soft feel that a good
paste wax gives when properly applied, though.

Just checking...

Robert

DD

Dekker

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

04/04/2007 10:20 AM

Actually, I find that most finishes that can be thinned by a solvent can
benefit from this treatment, for the first coat.

Dekker
www.woodworkdetails.com

Stoutman wrote:
> "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> I am using oil based poly. Should I dilute the first coat 1/1 with spirits
>> to get good penetration?
>> Next coats full strength? ( sanded between the coats naturally)
>> Thanks
>> Lee
>>
>>
>
> Yes. But not for the reason you state. Dilute the first coat 1:1 and it
> will flow onto the bare wood easier and more evenly (less likely to form
> ridges). It will also cure much faster. Once cured (dependent on
> temperature and humidity), rub lightly with 0000 steel wool and wipe clean.
> Apply your next coat 2:1 (poly:thinner) or full strength.
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

18/03/2007 10:24 PM


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Thinning is good, but it does not have to be that much. I use about
> 10-15%. Three more coats full strength, then wet sand with 600 grit,
> pumice, rottenstone, paste wax. Now you have a very nice finish.
>

Forgot to mention, wait two weeks for it to cure before the final sanding
and rubbing out.

S@

"Stoutman" <.@.>

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

18/03/2007 10:20 PM


"Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am using oil based poly. Should I dilute the first coat 1/1 with spirits
>to get good penetration?
> Next coats full strength? ( sanded between the coats naturally)
> Thanks
> Lee
>

Yes. But not for the reason you state. Dilute the first coat 1:1 and it
will flow onto the bare wood easier and more evenly (less likely to form
ridges). It will also cure much faster. Once cured (dependent on
temperature and humidity), rub lightly with 0000 steel wool and wipe clean.
Apply your next coat 2:1 (poly:thinner) or full strength.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

18/03/2007 10:23 PM


"Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am using oil based poly. Should I dilute the first coat 1/1 with spirits
>to get good penetration?
> Next coats full strength? ( sanded between the coats naturally)
> Thanks
> Lee

Thinning is good, but it does not have to be that much. I use about 10-15%.
Three more coats full strength, then wet sand with 600 grit, pumice,
rottenstone, paste wax. Now you have a very nice finish.

Ll

"Lee"

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

19/03/2007 2:33 AM

Got it. Thanks
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I am using oil based poly. Should I dilute the first coat 1/1 with spirits
>>to get good penetration?
>> Next coats full strength? ( sanded between the coats naturally)
>> Thanks
>> Lee
>>
>
> Yes. But not for the reason you state. Dilute the first coat 1:1 and it
> will flow onto the bare wood easier and more evenly (less likely to form
> ridges). It will also cure much faster. Once cured (dependent on
> temperature and humidity), rub lightly with 0000 steel wool and wipe
> clean. Apply your next coat 2:1 (poly:thinner) or full strength.
>
> --
> Stoutman
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Lee" on 19/03/2007 1:54 AM

20/03/2007 2:45 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mar 18, 8:23 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thinning is good, but it does not have to be that much. I >use about
>> 10-15%. Three more coats full strength, then >wet sand with 600 grit,
>> pumice, rottenstone, paste >wax. Now you have a very nice finish.
>
> Looks, good no doubt.
>
> But a question here for you EP, just wondering, why do you paste wax
> on top of your finish?
>
> Robert

Makes it shine and enriches the depth of the finish. Makes a huge
difference.


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