From the 20% owner of the newsgroup...
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
means
that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent of the
stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for years,
but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely disappointing
in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from HF, not kidding!
I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ... the
difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for the future
of Dell.
Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything you buy
from an American corporation these days is, in a large measure, total,
unmitigated, shit.
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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:4ee99320$0$1635
[email protected]:
> Have a friend with a Toshiba laptop running Vista.
>
> Want to change screen resolution.
>
> Open Control Panel.
>
> Can't find Display icon.
>
> Where do I go from here?
>
> Lew
>
I'm running Windows 7 and don't have a Vista machine around to check, but
what happens when you open the start menu and type in "display" or
"resolution"?
That reminds me... The idiots responsible for control panel hid
everything to make it "easier to use" or something. Somewhere on the LH
side, there should be an option to switch to classic view or similar.
(Sorry, I'm going by memory.)
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On 12/15/2011 4:07 PM, Larry W wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Lew Hodgett<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Have a friend with a Toshiba laptop running Vista.
>>
>> Want to change screen resolution.
>>
>> Open Control Panel.
>>
>> Can't find Display icon.
>>
>> Where do I go from here?
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
>
> To your local Arco gas station?
>
+100
"Larry Jaques" wrote
>
> I'm still waiting for someon to put a 60kV button on the phone so we
> can let these obnoxious marketers (who won't take no for an answer)
> exactly how we feel about their calls.
>
No need for anything that fancy. An aerosol can air horn does an excellent
job of communicating your wishes.
On 12/19/2011 06:28 AM, HeyBub wrote:
> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800, Steve Barker wrote:
>>
>>>> Where do I go from here?
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>>>
>>> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
>>> vista.
>>
>> Linux perhaps? Certainly not NT :-).
>
> Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating system
> designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone company. As of
> today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and most of those are in a
> parent's basement.
>
>
...and it lacks the wide variety of anti-virus programs available on
windows.
--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill
Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>
> For those not in the know, when measuring memory, 1 KB=2^10 bytes, 1
> MB=2^20 bytes, 1 GB=2^30 bytes. For measuring most everying else, like
> network speed for instance, 1 Kb = 10^3 BITS, 1KB =10^BYTES, M =10^6,
> G=10^6.
>
> You can generally trust manufacturers to choose units which make their
> product look it's best.
>
This explains the confusion pretty well:
http://xkcd.com/394/
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in news:Lq6dnYPkkd-
[email protected]:
> On 12/19/2011 7:25 AM, Han wrote:
>>
>> Actually, the properties under mycomputer says: 8.00GB (7.79 GB usable)
>> </story>
>>
> File allocation tables need room, not sure what replace those but some
> type of index is needed on the drive.
More likely, the video chip is stealing system RAM for its own use. It's
extremely common in machines without a separate video card. (Even if you
have one, if the on-board video isn't disabled it will still steal the
RAM.)
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
J. Clarke wrote:
>
> I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division
> of AT&T" prior to 2006.
>
> Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
> means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
> of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
HeyBub wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>> I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division
>> of AT&T" prior to 2006.
>>
>> Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
>> means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
>> of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
>
> If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
Ugh-oh HeyBub - that would not necessarily make you a very good CEO...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:51:54 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:48:45 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>wrote:
>
>>On 12/18/2011 10:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> > On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> >
>> >> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>> >
>> > Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for years,
>> > but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely disappointing
>> > in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from HF, not kidding!
>>
>>Ok, ;~) That last sentence is just going to confuse Larry, being that
>>HF is his first choice of stores to buy from.
Ayup.
>>Sorry Larry, I could not resist. ;~)
Nope.
>"the Dell from Hell"
From what I've heard, repeatedly: Ayup.
--
If you're trying to take a roomful of people by
surprise, it's a lot easier to hit your targets
if you don't yell going through the door.
-- Lois McMaster Bujold
On Dec 18, 12:37=A0pm, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote innews:zvydnVQASZychnPTnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@=
giganews.com:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> >> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
> >>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> >>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>
> >>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for
> >>> years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely
> >>> disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from
> >>> HF, not kidding!
>
> >>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ... the
> >>> difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for the
> >>> future of Dell.
>
> >>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything you
> >>> buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large measure,
> >>> total, unmitigated, shit.
>
> >> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all the
> >> consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible components.
> >> A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers, they tend to have
> >> much better hardware in them. Get machines aimed for corporations if
> >> you can, they tend to be better all around, as a general rule.
>
> > In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
> > _business class_ machine.
>
> > Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I
> > would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the
> > experience.
>
> So far I like my Asus X53E. =A0It was not expensive. =A0Core i3 2.1GHz, 8=
MB
> RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid
Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
On 12/15/2011 4:01 AM, Dave wrote:
> On 15 Dec 2011 06:39:39 GMT, Puckdropper
>> I'm running Windows 7 and don't have a Vista machine around to check, but
>> what happens when you open the start menu and type in "display" or
>> "resolution"?
>
> Don't know about Vista, but in Windows 7, you can left click on the
> desktop and select screen resolution. In control panel you can select
> display.
I think you meant to say right click the desk top.
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:28:48 -0600, "HeyBub" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800, Steve Barker wrote:
>>
>>>> Where do I go from here?
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>>>
>>> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
>>> vista.
A REAL computer and DELL in the same sentance???
>>
>> Linux perhaps? Certainly not NT :-).
>
>Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating system
>designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone company. As of
>today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and most of those are in a
>parent's basement.
>
Yeah, somewhere in the industry the computer people decided to redefine what
k,M and G mean based on powers of 2.
Typo correction: G=10^9 (US Billion, most other's 1000 Million)
------------
"Bill" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
For those not in the know, when measuring memory, 1 KB=2^10 bytes, 1
MB=2^20 bytes, 1 GB=2^30 bytes. For measuring most everying else, like
network speed for instance, 1 Kb = 10^3 BITS, 1KB =10^BYTES, M =10^6,
G=10^6.
You can generally trust manufacturers to choose units which make their
product look it's best.
On 12/17/2011 6:42 PM, m II wrote:
> Vista?
>
> WTF is Vista? Do you drive Studebaker car, too?
>
> Experienced people don't touch Dell anymore.
>
> -------------
> "Steve Barker" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides vista.
>
LMAO! Ok, what do they touch? HP?? Har har...
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Vista?
WTF is Vista? Do you drive Studebaker car, too?
Experienced people don't touch Dell anymore.
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"Steve Barker" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
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On 12/19/2011 7:25 AM, Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 12/18/2011 11:11 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Han wrote:
>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/18/2011 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 18, 12:37 pm, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops
>>>>>>>>>> for years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is
>>>>>>>>>> extremely disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like
>>>>>>>>>> it came from HF, not kidding!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office
>>>>>>>>>> ... the difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode
>>>>>>>>>> well for the future of Dell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything
>>>>>>>>>> you buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large
>>>>>>>>>> measure, total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all
>>>>>>>>> the consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible
>>>>>>>>> components. A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers,
>>>>>>>>> they tend to have much better hardware in them. Get machines
>>>>>>>>> aimed for corporations if you can, they tend to be better all
>>>>>>>>> around, as a general rule.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>>>>>>>> _business class_ machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label,
>>>>>>>> I would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on
>>>>>>>> the experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz,
>>>>>>> 8 MB RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Han
>>>>>>> email address is invalid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kinda skinny, ain't it. Mine has 1,000 times more RAM. ;~)
>>>>
>>>> <sheepish grin>
>>>
>>> It's really 2^10 = 1024 times as much. Geeze... : )
>>
>> No, a gig is 1000 times more than a meg. He probably should have said
>> 8.192 meg. ;~)
>
> Actually, the properties under mycomputer says: 8.00GB (7.79 GB usable)
> </story>
>
File allocation tables need room, not sure what replace those but some
type of index is needed on the drive.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> Larry Blanchard wrote:
> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800, Steve Barker wrote:
> >
> >>> Where do I go from here?
> >>>
> >>> Lew
> >>>
> >> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
> >> vista.
> >
> > Linux perhaps? Certainly not NT :-).
>
> Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating system
> designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone company. As of
> today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and most of those are in a
> parent's basement.
My local telephone company was Southern New England Telephone and had
nothing to do with the development of operating systems. However if
your view of Bell Labs is that it was "a money-losint division of your
local telephone company" then I don't care what the problem is, you are
part of it.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 07:56:37 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:27:38 -0500, "J. Clarke"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> >[email protected] says...
>> >>
>> >> J. Clarke wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division
>> >> > of AT&T" prior to 2006.
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
>> >> > means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
>> >> > of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
>> >>
>> >> If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
>> >
>> >Even if whoever owned the other 80 percent told you not to?
>> >
>> Depends how many "owners" the other 80% was spread over.
>
>So how many "owners" would it take before you obeyed the 20% instead of
>the 80%?
If none of the others owned more than 10% I'd "consider" listening to
the one that owned 20, but it would depend on how well the 80 agreed.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 07:56:37 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:27:38 -0500, "J. Clarke"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> >[email protected] says...
>> >>
>> >> J. Clarke wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division
>> >> > of AT&T" prior to 2006.
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
>> >> > means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
>> >> > of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
>> >>
>> >> If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
>> >
>> >Even if whoever owned the other 80 percent told you not to?
>> >
>> Depends how many "owners" the other 80% was spread over.
>
>So how many "owners" would it take before you obeyed the 20% instead of
>the 80%?
It would also depend on which "owners" had the most influence
otherwhise. Like technology ownership, or important connections, etc.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> J. Clarke wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> Larry Blanchard wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800, Steve Barker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Where do I go from here?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lew
> >>>>>
> >>>> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
> >>>> vista.
> >>>
> >>> Linux perhaps? Certainly not NT :-).
> >>
> >> Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating
> >> system designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone
> >> company. As of today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and
> >> most of those are in a parent's basement.
> >
> > My local telephone company was Southern New England Telephone and had
> > nothing to do with the development of operating systems. However if
> > your view of Bell Labs is that it was "a money-losint division of your
> > local telephone company" then I don't care what the problem is, you
> > are part of it.
>
> Southern New England Telephone was, and is, an operating division of AT&T.
> The company now does business as AT&T Connecticut.
Check again, moron.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:21:44 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >>
> >> J. Clarke wrote:
> >> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >> > [email protected] says...
> >> >>
> >> >> Larry Blanchard wrote:
> >> >>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800, Steve Barker wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> Where do I go from here?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Lew
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
> >> >>>> vista.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Linux perhaps? Certainly not NT :-).
> >> >>
> >> >> Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating
> >> >> system designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone
> >> >> company. As of today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and
> >> >> most of those are in a parent's basement.
> >> >
> >> > My local telephone company was Southern New England Telephone and had
> >> > nothing to do with the development of operating systems. However if
> >> > your view of Bell Labs is that it was "a money-losint division of your
> >> > local telephone company" then I don't care what the problem is, you
> >> > are part of it.
> >>
> >> Southern New England Telephone was, and is, an operating division of AT&T.
> >> The company now does business as AT&T Connecticut.
> >
> >Check again, moron.
> >
> >
> Check YOUR facts.
> Prior to 1986, The Southern New England Telephone Company had been a
> minority holding of AT&T until February 1986, when AT&T withdrew its
> 23% holding. SNET then became its own company, operating a
> telecommunications sales division, Sonecor Systems Division, which
> began operations on January 1, 1983 and sold equipment in competition
> with AT&T before the Bell System divestiture. SNET also operated SNET
> America, which sold long distance services within Connecticut.
>
> Under threats of a hostile takeover, Southern New England Telephone
> underwent a restructuring in 1986, creating Southern New England
> Telecommunications as the holding company of SNET and its related
> businesses.
>
> Southern New England Telecommunications was acquired by SBC
> Communications in 1998.
>
> SNET Corporation was merged into AT&T Teleholdings, formerly
> Ameritech, in 2006 and ceased to exist.
I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division of
AT&T" prior to 2006.
Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company means
that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent of the
stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> J. Clarke wrote:
> >
> > I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division
> > of AT&T" prior to 2006.
> >
> > Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
> > means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
> > of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
>
> If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
Even if whoever owned the other 80 percent told you not to?
On 12/18/2011 10:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>
> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for years,
> but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely disappointing
> in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from HF, not kidding!
Ok, ;~) That last sentence is just going to confuse Larry, being that
HF is his first choice of stores to buy from.
Sorry Larry, I could not resist. ;~)
On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all the
> consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible components. A
> possible exception for machines aimed at gamers, they tend to have much
> better hardware in them. Get machines aimed for corporations if you can,
> they tend to be better all around, as a general rule.
>
Because of the quality issue and ESPECIALLY because of the Indian tech
service my 8th Dell order was my last. My last computer was built by my
neighbor, he runs his own computer business.
On 12/18/2011 10:55 AM, Swingman wrote:
> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
> _business class_ machine.
>
> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I would
> likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the experience.
>
I believe that Dell's top of the line computer is
http://www.alienware.com/Landings/laptops.aspx?~ck=mn
Laptops come with a hardware resolution built-in. If you change the
video resolution different from that you get less clarity or a virtual
PITA screen that you have to "slide around" It should already be set
for that unchangeable hardware resolution.
-----------------
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Have a friend with a Toshiba laptop running Vista.
Want to change screen resolution.
Open Control Panel.
Can't find Display icon.
Where do I go from here?
Lew
On 12/14/2011 10:26 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Have a friend with a Toshiba laptop running Vista.
>
> Want to change screen resolution.
>
> Open Control Panel.
>
> Can't find Display icon.
>
> Where do I go from here?
>
> Lew
>
>
>
to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides vista.
--
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On 12/18/2011 12:55 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 12/18/2011 10:55 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>> _business class_ machine.
>>
>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I would
>> likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the experience.
>>
>
> I believe that Dell's top of the line computer is
> http://www.alienware.com/Landings/laptops.aspx?~ck=mn
The Alienware line is for the Apple fanbois who were forced to switch to
a PC ... much too fancy for any business. :)
Their standard business line is Vostro, which is basically much less
expensive than either the XPS or Alienware machines.
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Last update: 4/15/2010
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On 12/20/2011 3:53 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in news:Lq6dnYPkkd-
> [email protected]:
>
>> On 12/19/2011 7:25 AM, Han wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, the properties under mycomputer says: 8.00GB (7.79 GB usable)
>>> </story>
>>>
>> File allocation tables need room, not sure what replace those but some
>> type of index is needed on the drive.
>
> More likely, the video chip is stealing system RAM for its own use. It's
> extremely common in machines without a separate video card. (Even if you
> have one, if the on-board video isn't disabled it will still steal the
> RAM.)
>
> Puckdropper
Doh! Most likely NOT what I said. I was suddenly thinking of a drive
being reported smaller in capacity than sold as.
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>
>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for
>>> years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely
>>> disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from
>>> HF, not kidding!
>>>
>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ... the
>>> difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for the
>>> future of Dell.
>>>
>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything you
>>> buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large measure,
>>> total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>
>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all the
>> consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible components.
>> A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers, they tend to have
>> much better hardware in them. Get machines aimed for corporations if
>> you can, they tend to be better all around, as a general rule.
>>
>
> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
> _business class_ machine.
>
> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I
> would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the
> experience.
So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz, 8 MB
RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 12/18/2011 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Dec 18, 12:37 pm, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote
>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>
>>>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for
>>>>>> years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely
>>>>>> disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from
>>>>>> HF, not kidding!
>>>
>>>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ...
>>>>>> the difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for
>>>>>> the future of Dell.
>>>
>>>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything
>>>>>> you buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large
>>>>>> measure, total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>
>>>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all
>>>>> the consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible
>>>>> components. A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers,
>>>>> they tend to have much better hardware in them. Get machines aimed
>>>>> for corporations if you can, they tend to be better all around, as
>>>>> a general rule.
>>>
>>>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>>>> _business class_ machine.
>>>
>>>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I
>>>> would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the
>>>> experience.
>>>
>>> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz,
>>> 8 MB RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards
>>> Han
>>> email address is invalid
>>
>> Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
>>
>> No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
>
>
> Kinda skinny, ain't it. Mine has 1,000 times more RAM. ;~)
<sheepish grin>
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 12/18/2011 11:11 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Han wrote:
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 12/18/2011 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 18, 12:37 pm, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops
>>>>>>>>> for years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is
>>>>>>>>> extremely disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like
>>>>>>>>> it came from HF, not kidding!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office
>>>>>>>>> ... the difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode
>>>>>>>>> well for the future of Dell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything
>>>>>>>>> you buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large
>>>>>>>>> measure, total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all
>>>>>>>> the consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible
>>>>>>>> components. A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers,
>>>>>>>> they tend to have much better hardware in them. Get machines
>>>>>>>> aimed for corporations if you can, they tend to be better all
>>>>>>>> around, as a general rule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>>>>>>> _business class_ machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label,
>>>>>>> I would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on
>>>>>>> the experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz,
>>>>>> 8 MB RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> Han
>>>>>> email address is invalid
>>>>>
>>>>> Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
>>>>>
>>>>> No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kinda skinny, ain't it. Mine has 1,000 times more RAM. ;~)
>>>
>>> <sheepish grin>
>>
>> It's really 2^10 = 1024 times as much. Geeze... : )
>
> No, a gig is 1000 times more than a meg. He probably should have said
> 8.192 meg. ;~)
Actually, the properties under mycomputer says: 8.00GB (7.79 GB usable)
</story>
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On 12/19/2011 3:32 PM, Bob/Barb Alexander wrote:
> And why not, they are made in China, just like most HF stuff.
So is the iPad, one of the best made electronic devices out there.
It's not always where it's made, it is always the attitude with which
it's made.
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J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800, Steve Barker wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Where do I go from here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lew
>>>>>
>>>> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
>>>> vista.
>>>
>>> Linux perhaps? Certainly not NT :-).
>>
>> Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating
>> system designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone
>> company. As of today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and
>> most of those are in a parent's basement.
>
> My local telephone company was Southern New England Telephone and had
> nothing to do with the development of operating systems. However if
> your view of Bell Labs is that it was "a money-losint division of your
> local telephone company" then I don't care what the problem is, you
> are part of it.
Southern New England Telephone was, and is, an operating division of AT&T.
The company now does business as AT&T Connecticut.
Bell Labs never made a proft; it was an expense division.
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:10:48 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 07:56:37 -0500, "J. Clarke"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] says...
>>>
>>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:27:38 -0500, "J. Clarke"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>>> >[email protected] says...
>>> >>
>>> >> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division
>>> >> > of AT&T" prior to 2006.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
>>> >> > means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
>>> >> > of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
>>> >>
>>> >> If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
>>> >
>>> >Even if whoever owned the other 80 percent told you not to?
>>> >
>>> Depends how many "owners" the other 80% was spread over.
>>
>>So how many "owners" would it take before you obeyed the 20% instead of
>>the 80%?
> If none of the others owned more than 10% I'd "consider" listening to
>the one that owned 20, but it would depend on how well the 80 agreed.
Well deflected, sir! Now, why are you talkin' to trolls?
Time to add a twit filter, clare.
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:39:48 -0800, Steve Barker
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 12/17/2011 6:42 PM, m II wrote:
>> Vista?
>>
>> WTF is Vista? Do you drive Studebaker car, too?
>>
>> Experienced people don't touch Dell anymore.
>>
>> -------------
>> "Steve Barker" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides vista.
>>
>
>LMAO! Ok, what do they touch? HP?? Har har...
Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
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surprise, it's a lot easier to hit your targets
if you don't yell going through the door.
-- Lois McMaster Bujold
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:39:46 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>
>
>"Larry Jaques" wrote
>>
>> I'm still waiting for someon to put a 60kV button on the phone so we
>> can let these obnoxious marketers (who won't take no for an answer)
>> exactly how we feel about their calls.
>>
>No need for anything that fancy. An aerosol can air horn does an excellent
>job of communicating your wishes.
I'll bet the recidivism rate is far less with my ploy, though.
<evil grinne>
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if you don't yell going through the door.
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:48:45 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/18/2011 10:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
> > On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> >
> >> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
> >
> > Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for years,
> > but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely disappointing
> > in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from HF, not kidding!
>
>Ok, ;~) That last sentence is just going to confuse Larry, being that
>HF is his first choice of stores to buy from.
>
>Sorry Larry, I could not resist. ;~)
>
"the Dell from Hell"
On 15 Dec 2011 06:39:39 GMT, Puckdropper
>I'm running Windows 7 and don't have a Vista machine around to check, but
>what happens when you open the start menu and type in "display" or
>"resolution"?
Don't know about Vista, but in Windows 7, you can left click on the
desktop and select screen resolution. In control panel you can select
display.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Have a friend with a Toshiba laptop running Vista.
>
> Want to change screen resolution.
>
> Open Control Panel.
>
> Can't find Display icon.
>
> Where do I go from here?
>
> Lew
>
>
>
Right click on a blank area of the screen. Select "Personalize". Select
"Display Settings". Adjust to suit. Just checked on my HP running Vista Home
Premium.
--
--
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Have a friend with a Toshiba laptop running Vista.
>
> Want to change screen resolution.
>
> Open Control Panel.
>
> Can't find Display icon.
>
> Where do I go from here?
>
> Lew
Right click desktop
Click on "Properties"
Click "Settings" tab
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On 12/15/11 8:38 AM, m II wrote:
> Laptops come with a hardware resolution built-in. If you change the
> video resolution different from that you get less clarity or a virtual
> PITA screen that you have to "slide around" It should already be set for
> that unchangeable hardware resolution.
>
While partially right, not always:
1) Upgrade the OS, you will most likely have to change it back.
2) Some Video Driver updates, again..sometimes, but not always
3) Shit happens (it is Windows after all)
And yes, just to re-iterate some previous comments, right click on the
desktop->properties, you'll find it.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
>Have a friend with a Toshiba laptop running Vista.
>
>Want to change screen resolution.
>
>Open Control Panel.
>
>Can't find Display icon.
>
>Where do I go from here?
>
>Lew
>
>
>
To your local Arco gas station?
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with the average voter. (Winston Churchill)
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:27:38 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >>
> >> J. Clarke wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division
> >> > of AT&T" prior to 2006.
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
> >> > means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
> >> > of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
> >>
> >> If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
> >
> >Even if whoever owned the other 80 percent told you not to?
> >
> Depends how many "owners" the other 80% was spread over.
So how many "owners" would it take before you obeyed the 20% instead of
the 80%?
[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:27:38 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating
>>>> division of AT&T" prior to 2006.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
>>>> means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
>>>> of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
>>>
>>> If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
>>
>> Even if whoever owned the other 80 percent told you not to?
>>
> Depends how many "owners" the other 80% was spread over.
Really???
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:27:38 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>>
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>> >
>> > I see no "facts" there that show that SNET was "an operating division
>> > of AT&T" prior to 2006.
>> >
>> > Perhaps you think that having 20 percent of the stock of a company
>> > means that you own the company. If so I suggest you buy 20 percent
>> > of the stock in a company and then try to fire the CEO.
>>
>> If AT&T owned 20% of MY company, you bet I do what they said.
>
>Even if whoever owned the other 80 percent told you not to?
>
Depends how many "owners" the other 80% was spread over.
On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>
> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for years,
> but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely disappointing
> in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from HF, not kidding!
>
> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ... the
> difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for the future
> of Dell.
>
> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything you buy
> from an American corporation these days is, in a large measure, total,
> unmitigated, shit.
>
It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all the
consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible components. A
possible exception for machines aimed at gamers, they tend to have much
better hardware in them. Get machines aimed for corporations if you
can, they tend to be better all around, as a general rule.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 12/18/2011 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Dec 18, 12:37 pm, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote
>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>>
>>>>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for
>>>>>>> years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely
>>>>>>> disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from
>>>>>>> HF, not kidding!
>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ...
>>>>>>> the difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for
>>>>>>> the future of Dell.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything
>>>>>>> you buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large
>>>>>>> measure, total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>>
>>>>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all
>>>>>> the consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible
>>>>>> components. A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers,
>>>>>> they tend to have much better hardware in them. Get machines aimed
>>>>>> for corporations if you can, they tend to be better all around, as
>>>>>> a general rule.
>>>>
>>>>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>>>>> _business class_ machine.
>>>>
>>>>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I
>>>>> would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the
>>>>> experience.
>>>>
>>>> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz,
>>>> 8 MB RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Han
>>>> email address is invalid
>>>
>>> Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
>>>
>>> No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Kinda skinny, ain't it. Mine has 1,000 times more RAM. ;~)
>
> <sheepish grin>
It's really 2^10 = 1024 times as much. Geeze... : )
Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 12/18/2011 11:11 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Han wrote:
>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/18/2011 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 18, 12:37 pm, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops
>>>>>>>>>> for years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is
>>>>>>>>>> extremely disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like
>>>>>>>>>> it came from HF, not kidding!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office
>>>>>>>>>> ... the difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode
>>>>>>>>>> well for the future of Dell.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything
>>>>>>>>>> you buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large
>>>>>>>>>> measure, total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all
>>>>>>>>> the consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible
>>>>>>>>> components. A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers,
>>>>>>>>> they tend to have much better hardware in them. Get machines
>>>>>>>>> aimed for corporations if you can, they tend to be better all
>>>>>>>>> around, as a general rule.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>>>>>>>> _business class_ machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label,
>>>>>>>> I would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on
>>>>>>>> the experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz,
>>>>>>> 8 MB RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Han
>>>>>>> email address is invalid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kinda skinny, ain't it. Mine has 1,000 times more RAM. ;~)
>>>>
>>>> <sheepish grin>
>>>
>>> It's really 2^10 = 1024 times as much. Geeze... : )
>>
>> No, a gig is 1000 times more than a meg. He probably should have said
>> 8.192 meg. ;~)
>
> Actually, the properties under mycomputer says: 8.00GB (7.79 GB usable)
> </story>
For those not in the know, when measuring memory, 1 KB=2^10 bytes, 1
MB=2^20 bytes, 1 GB=2^30 bytes. For measuring most everying else, like
network speed for instance, 1 Kb = 10^3 BITS, 1KB =10^BYTES, M =10^6,
G=10^6.
You can generally trust manufacturers to choose units which make their
product look it's best.
Bill wrote:
> Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 12/18/2011 11:11 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> Han wrote:
>>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 18, 12:37 pm, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops
>>>>>>>>>>> for years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is
>>>>>>>>>>> extremely disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like
>>>>>>>>>>> it came from HF, not kidding!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office
>>>>>>>>>>> ... the difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode
>>>>>>>>>>> well for the future of Dell.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything
>>>>>>>>>>> you buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large
>>>>>>>>>>> measure, total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all
>>>>>>>>>> the consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible
>>>>>>>>>> components. A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers,
>>>>>>>>>> they tend to have much better hardware in them. Get machines
>>>>>>>>>> aimed for corporations if you can, they tend to be better all
>>>>>>>>>> around, as a general rule.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>>>>>>>>> _business class_ machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label,
>>>>>>>>> I would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on
>>>>>>>>> the experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz,
>>>>>>>> 8 MB RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>> Han
>>>>>>>> email address is invalid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kinda skinny, ain't it. Mine has 1,000 times more RAM. ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>> <sheepish grin>
>>>>
>>>> It's really 2^10 = 1024 times as much. Geeze... : )
>>>
>>> No, a gig is 1000 times more than a meg. He probably should have said
>>> 8.192 meg. ;~)
>>
>> Actually, the properties under mycomputer says: 8.00GB (7.79 GB usable)
>> </story>
>
>
> For those not in the know, when measuring memory, 1 KB=2^10 bytes, 1
> MB=2^20 bytes, 1 GB=2^30 bytes. For measuring most everying else, like
> network speed for instance, 1 Kb = 10^3 BITS, 1KB =10^BYTES, M =10^6,
> G=10^6.
Oops G = 10^9.
>
> You can generally trust manufacturers to choose units which make their
> product look it's best.
>
On 12/19/2011 8:58 AM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
> On 12/19/2011 06:28 AM, HeyBub wrote:
>> Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating system
>> designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone company.
>> As of today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and most of those are
>> in a parent's basement.
>>
> ...and it lacks the wide variety of anti-virus programs available on
> windows.
>
It also lacks the urgent need for them.
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:52:35 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>
>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all the
>> consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible components. A
>> possible exception for machines aimed at gamers, they tend to have much
>> better hardware in them. Get machines aimed for corporations if you can,
>> they tend to be better all around, as a general rule.
>>
>
>Because of the quality issue and ESPECIALLY because of the Indian tech
>service my 8th Dell order was my last. My last computer was built by my
>neighbor, he runs his own computer business.
I had to stop that when I moved to Oregon. There are no Asian computer
stores here to work with. I used to build my own from selected
components but can't do it any more, at least not inexpensively.
And speaking of the complete other side of the world...
A guy called me at 4:51 this morning to tell me that he was Charley
Dunn and he wanted to talk to me about my computer maintenance. His
Indian accent was so strong, it took a few seconds for me to even
recognize it as Indian, with inklings of English mixed in. I said
"Thank you, but I don't need your services. Goodbye." As I was hanging
up, I heard him continuing his spiel. I get 2 or 3 of these Indian
marketing calls every week, and I tell most of them to put my name on
the Do Not Call list. Every one of them tells me they will. Uh, huh.
I usually stop them in midstream when I hear the Indian dialect, and
ask if this is a sales call. Half are honest and say yes, when I tell
that I'm not buying, and PPMOYDNCL. The other half start their spiel
anyway so I yell "PPMOYDNCLthanksgoodbye" CLICK, until next week.
I'm still waiting for someon to put a 60kV button on the phone so we
can let these obnoxious marketers (who won't take no for an answer)
exactly how we feel about their calls.
--
If you're trying to take a roomful of people by
surprise, it's a lot easier to hit your targets
if you don't yell going through the door.
-- Lois McMaster Bujold
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800, Steve Barker wrote:
>
>>> Where do I go from here?
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
>> vista.
>
> Linux perhaps? Certainly not NT :-).
Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating system
designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone company. As of
today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and most of those are in a
parent's basement.
And why not, they are made in China, just like most HF stuff.
Bob...
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>
> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for years, but
> their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely disappointing in fit
> and finish ... it is built like it came from HF, not kidding!
>
> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ... the
> difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for the future of
> Dell.
>
> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything you buy
> from an American corporation these days is, in a large measure, total,
> unmitigated, shit.
>
> --
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> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
> http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
On 12/18/2011 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Dec 18, 12:37 pm, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>
>>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for
>>>>> years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely
>>>>> disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from
>>>>> HF, not kidding!
>>
>>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ... the
>>>>> difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for the
>>>>> future of Dell.
>>
>>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything you
>>>>> buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large measure,
>>>>> total, unmitigated, shit.
>>
>>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all the
>>>> consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible components.
>>>> A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers, they tend to have
>>>> much better hardware in them. Get machines aimed for corporations if
>>>> you can, they tend to be better all around, as a general rule.
>>
>>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>>> _business class_ machine.
>>
>>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I
>>> would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the
>>> experience.
>>
>> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz, 8 MB
>> RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards
>> Han
>> email address is invalid
>
> Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
>
> No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
Kinda skinny, ain't it. Mine has 1,000 times more RAM. ;~)
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:21:44 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>>
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] says...
>> >>
>> >> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:25:23 -0800, Steve Barker wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>> Where do I go from here?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Lew
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
>> >>>> vista.
>> >>>
>> >>> Linux perhaps? Certainly not NT :-).
>> >>
>> >> Not Linux either. Linux is a knock-off of a 50-year old operating
>> >> system designed by a money-losing division of your local telephone
>> >> company. As of today, it runs about 2% of the world's computers and
>> >> most of those are in a parent's basement.
>> >
>> > My local telephone company was Southern New England Telephone and had
>> > nothing to do with the development of operating systems. However if
>> > your view of Bell Labs is that it was "a money-losint division of your
>> > local telephone company" then I don't care what the problem is, you
>> > are part of it.
>>
>> Southern New England Telephone was, and is, an operating division of AT&T.
>> The company now does business as AT&T Connecticut.
>
>Check again, moron.
>
>
Check YOUR facts.
Prior to 1986, The Southern New England Telephone Company had been a
minority holding of AT&T until February 1986, when AT&T withdrew its
23% holding. SNET then became its own company, operating a
telecommunications sales division, Sonecor Systems Division, which
began operations on January 1, 1983 and sold equipment in competition
with AT&T before the Bell System divestiture. SNET also operated SNET
America, which sold long distance services within Connecticut.
Under threats of a hostile takeover, Southern New England Telephone
underwent a restructuring in 1986, creating Southern New England
Telecommunications as the holding company of SNET and its related
businesses.
Southern New England Telecommunications was acquired by SBC
Communications in 1998.
SNET Corporation was merged into AT&T Teleholdings, formerly
Ameritech, in 2006 and ceased to exist.
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:26:42 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Have a friend with a Toshiba laptop running Vista.
>
>Want to change screen resolution.
>
>Open Control Panel.
>
>Can't find Display icon.
>
>Where do I go from here?
>
>Lew
>
>
See:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Change-screen-resolution
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
On 12/18/2011 11:11 PM, Bill wrote:
> Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 12/18/2011 5:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Dec 18, 12:37 pm, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> innews:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for
>>>>>>>> years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely
>>>>>>>> disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from
>>>>>>>> HF, not kidding!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ...
>>>>>>>> the difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for
>>>>>>>> the future of Dell.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything
>>>>>>>> you buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large
>>>>>>>> measure, total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all
>>>>>>> the consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible
>>>>>>> components. A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers,
>>>>>>> they tend to have much better hardware in them. Get machines aimed
>>>>>>> for corporations if you can, they tend to be better all around, as
>>>>>>> a general rule.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>>>>>> _business class_ machine.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I
>>>>>> would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the
>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz,
>>>>> 8 MB RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Han
>>>>> email address is invalid
>>>>
>>>> Allow me to be the first to shockingly exclaim "8MB RAM?"
>>>>
>>>> No wonder it wasn't expensive. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Kinda skinny, ain't it. Mine has 1,000 times more RAM. ;~)
>>
>> <sheepish grin>
>
> It's really 2^10 = 1024 times as much. Geeze... : )
No, a gig is 1000 times more than a meg. He probably should have said
8.192 meg. ;~)
On 12/18/2011 11:37 AM, Han wrote:
> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>>>
>>>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for
>>>> years, but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely
>>>> disappointing in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from
>>>> HF, not kidding!
>>>>
>>>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ... the
>>>> difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for the
>>>> future of Dell.
>>>>
>>>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything you
>>>> buy from an American corporation these days is, in a large measure,
>>>> total, unmitigated, shit.
>>>>
>>> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all the
>>> consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible components.
>>> A possible exception for machines aimed at gamers, they tend to have
>>> much better hardware in them. Get machines aimed for corporations if
>>> you can, they tend to be better all around, as a general rule.
>>>
>>
>> In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
>> _business class_ machine.
>>
>> Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I
>> would likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the
>> experience.
>
> So far I like my Asus X53E. It was not expensive. Core i3 2.1GHz, 8 MB
> RAM, Win7 Pro 64 bit.
>
The components in the Dell are fine, it is the construction that is
below par. Keyboard rattles and flexes, there are gaps where the parts
fit together, etc. Put those two machines side by side, the new one and
the one built six years ago, and the difference _quality_ can be both
seen and felt.
--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop
I always go to my local computer store and have them me one out of top
rated parts. They are usually cheaper and don't require "special"
drivers and o/s to install so when upgrade them it is actually
possible. When problems occur they fix it while I stand there,
typically and I don't need to speak Packi in order to discuss methods
or fixes. Mind you, the Chinklish can get pretty thick, sometimes.
----------------
"Steve Barker" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 12/17/2011 6:42 PM, m II wrote:
> Vista?
>
> WTF is Vista? Do you drive Studebaker car, too?
>
> Experienced people don't touch Dell anymore.
>
> -------------
> "Steve Barker" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> to dell dot com and buy a real computer. With something besides
> vista.
>
LMAO! Ok, what do they touch? HP?? Har har...
--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email
On 12/18/2011 10:41 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> On 12/18/11 11:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 12/18/2011 7:34 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> Aren't Dells the Packard Hells of today?
>>
>> Getting that way. I've been a big fan of Dell's XPS laptops for years,
>> but their XPS 15 I purchased two months ago is extremely disappointing
>> in fit and finish ... it is built like it came from HF, not kidding!
>>
>> I have the old one and the new on side by side in my office ... the
>> difference in quality is glaring, and does not bode well for the future
>> of Dell.
>>
>> Further proof that, with the rise of MBAthink, almost anything you buy
>> from an American corporation these days is, in a large measure, total,
>> unmitigated, shit.
>>
> It seems most brands are going that way, as a rule, I avoid all the
> consumer grade computers, too much bloatware and horrible components. A
> possible exception for machines aimed at gamers, they tend to have much
> better hardware in them. Get machines aimed for corporations if you can,
> they tend to be better all around, as a general rule.
>
In the choir .. XPS has always been pushed by Dell as a quality,
_business class_ machine.
Had I been in the habit of buying their consumer Inspiron label, I would
likely have not been informed enough to even remark on the experience.
--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop