On 5 Mar, 02:10, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The patent says it's for another purpose, something that I've posted
> > numerous times before.
>
> Yet another fence tightener?
If a few of these persistent re-inventors had looked a bit further
afield from the things we'd already solved, we'd have better
mousetraps and steam-powered personal helicopters by now.
On Mar 4, 6:04=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >1871: =A0A Peavey hoist, a crude but powerful version of a comealong.
> >Works with heavy chain. =A0Used in the woods to open the sluice gates of
> >driving dams, among other things. =A0The socket takes a long wood
> >handle.
> >John Martin
>
> According to the patent it was made for something other than what you
> suggest, but you're correct that it works with a heavy chain.
>
> Rob
No idea what the patent says, but the Peavey Manufacturing Company
says uses were pulling stumps and raising dam gates.
http://www.peaveymfg.com/history.html
I just looked at one I have in my garage. No manufacturer's mark on
the castings, so it may have been by another maker.
John Martin
On 4 Mar, 10:17, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
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1867
Japanese stirrup
1868
Oil clock. Float tracks the oil level, which goes down as the lamp
(wick below) burns.
1869
Hand-cranked whirly thing, but no idea what for (farming the Mid
West, I'll bet, but no idea which end of the cow you stick it in)
1870
Lightning bolt (stylised Buddhist one)
1871
Guessing it goes on the end of a pole and acts as some sort of ratchet
hook? Maybe another patent cart or buggy jack?
1872
Part of a window opener for small fanlights. Screw on the wall, a loop
hooks into the rack and can be adjusted up and down by a few inches.
> "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>> 1871: A early version of what my dad called a "binder", an over
>> center take up used with chains to tie down a load on the bed of an
>> 18 wheeler.
>>
>> Still very much in use today.
>>
>> Lew
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"Rob H." wrote:
> The patent says it's for another purpose, something that I've posted
> numerous times before.
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Since it uses a basic over center mechanism, there are probably
several applications for the device shown.
Just for grins, due a Google on "chain binders".
Lew
On 5 Mar, 02:17, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> According to a fence tool book that I have,
Scary! Even I don't have books of collected fencing tools.
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I think 1868 might be a candle clock. The candle in set on the pin and lit
at 6:00 o'clock. As it burns down, the level of the remaining wax indicates
the time.
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>Rob H. wrote:
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>> Rob
>1870 is a Tibetan Double Dorje
So it is - Wikipedia calls it a vajra.
Nick
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1867 - cannon ball holder / loader
1868 - Religious something?
1869 - Cutoff valve handle turner?
1870 - what those other guessers said 8>)
1871 - Another Fire hose apparatus? Does the gauge in the picture have
any significance?
1872 - I like the guess as that it would hold a awning at different
positions.
Mike in Ohio
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1868 water clock
1869 early breast drill
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> 1870 is a Tibetan Double Dorje
Sumbitch! How the hell did you find THAT?
(good job!)
LLoyd
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> Rob
1871: A Peavey hoist, a crude but powerful version of a comealong.
Works with heavy chain. Used in the woods to open the sluice gates of
driving dams, among other things. The socket takes a long wood
handle.
John Martin
In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
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Bit late to the party this week, but here none the less. My guesses:
1867 - At first glance, I thought this may be a boat anchor, but closer
examination shows this is very unlikely. The fine detailing is all
wrong for an anchor, and the shape wouldn't be particularly practical
should it fall with the wrong side down. Perhaps its an incense holder
of some manner, possibly intended to be hung overhead?
1868 - Clock of some manner. I'd guess perhaps a form of water clock,
where the cylinder is filled with water at the start of the day and
slowly oozes out through the wicking. The pointer would be attached to
a float that rides down on the water level. It wouldn't seem to me to
be overly accurate unless the temperature and humidity were constant.
1869 - Heavy duty two-handed breast brace, presumably for drilling.
1870 - A very wild guess--a weight to keep a sash cord straight, maybe?
I really have no idea.
1871 - Another very wild guess--the head of a tool to replace a tread on
a tank or bulldozer when it gets dislodged somehow from its drivers?
1872 - Ratchety hold down thingy for something adjustable. I might
suspect it's used with a swinging window or ventilator operated by a
rope; a ring or similar on the rope would engage the teeth to permit
various adjustments of the opening. (As an example, many sugar houses
[where maple syrup is made] traditionally have swinging ventilators
along a raised bit of the roof ridge, commonly operated by a rope and
some pulleys.)
--
Andrew Erickson
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot
1868 The indicator/dial from a water-clock (clepsydra).
1872 Adjusting stop for a window awning. Screwed to an outside window
frame. Rod catches one of the notches to set the angle of an outside window
awning.
http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2007/03/1920s_houdini_f.php
Note that some of the awnings are adjusted at different angles.
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1867 - WTF????
1868 - oil-lamp clock
1869 - some sort of auger or drill
First two: No clue.
1869 is a bit brace, with chest strap for
stability. And two hand operation.
Last couple: No clue.
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Mouse <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:hmoidq$fcf$1
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>> 1870 is a Tibetan Double Dorje
>
> Sumbitch! How the hell did you find THAT?
>
> (good job!)
>
> LLoyd
The collective knowledge of the members of this group keep me coming
back for more, even though the political rants are off-putting.
Aha... With the identification of 1870, I can now guess that:
1867 is a carrier for a Tibetan Dorje or Vajra.
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1867 -
1868 - Looks like some type of clock since it has 12 steps.
1869 - OLD breast brace.
1870 -
1871 - Looks like a tire spreader to open a tire up so you can patch it.
But it's probably something else.
1872 - Ratchet steps for either an awning or maybe a transom window.
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Nick Wedd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>, Mouse
> <[email protected]> writes
>> Rob H. wrote:
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>>> Rob
1867--Upside down? Looks like it could be a bumper on a vehicle. I even
see some signs of collision in just the right spot. That it is engraved
makes me rule out more-industrial purposes. Of course, I could be
wrong... :)
Bill
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> <[email protected]> writes
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>>> Rob
1868--Reminds me of the device they use to measure the size of your foot
in a shoe store (or a cobbler's shoppe?).
Bill
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>1871: A Peavey hoist, a crude but powerful version of a comealong.
>Works with heavy chain. Used in the woods to open the sluice gates of
>driving dams, among other things. The socket takes a long wood
>handle.
>John Martin
According to the patent it was made for something other than what you
suggest, but you're correct that it works with a heavy chain.
Rob
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> 1871: A early version of what my dad called a "binder", an over center
> take up used with chains to tie down a load on the bed of an 18 wheeler.
>
> Still very much in use today.
>
> Lew
The patent says it's for another purpose, something that I've posted
numerous times before.
Rob
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> The patent says it's for another purpose, something that I've posted
> numerous times before.
> Rob
>
Yet another fence tightener?
Art
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> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> The patent says it's for another purpose, something that I've posted
>> numerous times before.
>> Rob
>>
> Yet another fence tightener?
> Art
That's it! According to a fence tool book that I have, there are still
plenty of these that I haven't posted yet but if I find any more I think
I'll hold off on them for a while.
Rob
John Martin wrote:
> On Mar 4, 6:04 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>> 1871: A Peavey hoist, a crude but powerful version of a comealong.
>>> Works with heavy chain. Used in the woods to open the sluice gates of
>>> driving dams, among other things. The socket takes a long wood
>>> handle.
>>> John Martin
>> According to the patent it was made for something other than what you
>> suggest, but you're correct that it works with a heavy chain.
>>
>> Rob
>
> No idea what the patent says, but the Peavey Manufacturing Company
> says uses were pulling stumps and raising dam gates.
>
> http://www.peaveymfg.com/history.html
>
> I just looked at one I have in my garage. No manufacturer's mark on
> the castings, so it may have been by another maker.
>
> John Martin
>
I think it would work to hoist a chain. You'd hang it by the loop, move
the handle so one hook was as low as possible, hook the chain to that
hook, and move the handle to raise that hook and lower the other one.
Then swing the low hook to engage the chain. As you raise the lower
hook, you will lower the upper one and the chain on it will slacken.
You can remove the chain and use that hook to catch the chain lower down.
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On Mar 4, 6:04 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >1871: A Peavey hoist, a crude but powerful version of a comealong.
>No idea what the patent says, but the Peavey Manufacturing Company
>says uses were pulling stumps and raising dam gates.
>http://www.peaveymfg.com/history.html
>I just looked at one I have in my garage. No manufacturer's mark on
>the castings, so it may have been by another maker.
>John Martin
I did a search on Peavey hoist when you first posted this answer but
couldn't find a photo of one on the web. Here is the patent for the fence
tightener:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=Cf5OAAAAEBAJ&dq=912845
Rob
Rob H. wrote:
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> On Mar 4, 6:04 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>> >1871: A Peavey hoist, a crude but powerful version of a comealong.
>
>
>> No idea what the patent says, but the Peavey Manufacturing Company
>> says uses were pulling stumps and raising dam gates.
>
>> http://www.peaveymfg.com/history.html
>
>> I just looked at one I have in my garage. No manufacturer's mark on
>> the castings, so it may have been by another maker.
>
>> John Martin
>
> I did a search on Peavey hoist when you first posted this answer but
> couldn't find a photo of one on the web. Here is the patent for the
> fence tightener:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=Cf5OAAAAEBAJ&dq=912845
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
Holy cow! Those hooks are split like a claw hammer, and a spring keeps
them against the chain!
> Holy cow! Those hooks are split like a claw hammer, and a spring keeps
> them against the chain!
Good eye, I didn't notice the split claw until you mentioned it, and it
looks like the one on my site is missing the spring.
They've all been answered correctly this week, more information and a few
new photos have been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/03/set-326.html#answers
Rob
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#1868: 12-hour Night clock. Light a new candle with known burning characteristics
at 18:00 hours; by the time the candle has burned to a nub, it's 06:00 hours.
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>On 5 Mar, 02:10, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > The patent says it's for another purpose, something that I've posted
>> > numerous times before.
>>
>> Yet another fence tightener?
>
>If a few of these persistent re-inventors had looked a bit further
>afield from the things we'd already solved, we'd have better
>mousetraps and steam-powered personal helicopters by now.
Better mousetraps have been posted any number of times :-)
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On 2010-03-04, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
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Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always:
1867) It sort of looks like something for scooping leaves and such
out of gutters. Plastic, not metal. Maybe it could be drawn
along the gutter by a cord.
1868) A clock:
It either works by evaporation from the wick, or the burning of
something like kerosene from the wick. At a guess, I would say
that evaporation would be too variable in speed -- dependent on
the humidity. The burning rate of the kerosene might also be
dependent on the amount of wick exposed.
Anyway -- there is a float in the cylindrical reservoir, and
this supports the rod to point to the time, indicating the
remaining liquid in the cylinder.
1869) A direct and personal application Roto-rooter for something
like a storm drain?
1870) Hmm ... it is supported by the points between two conical holes
and is spun by a cord wrapped around either side of the central
ball?
But I can't come up with a useful *reason* to do this.
1871) A bottle opener -- including for large flat jar lids which
pry up?
It looks to be bronze, which would suggest that it is designed
to avoid making sparks in the presence of flammable gas.
1872) Mounts on the back or side of a fireplace, and is used to
adjust the height of a cooking vessel above the fire?
Now to see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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