On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:00:57 -0400, "Rob H."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I've never seen a nail rake at a hardware store, I thought they stopped
>using this tool years ago.
Howdy,
I thought they stopped using real hardware stores years
ago...<g>
There are few left, but the "real" hardware stores around
here (most of which were in business a hundred years ago)
still use those nail rakes.
All the best,
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On Sep 26, 9:36=A0am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Sep 25, 10:01 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >>> On Sep 25, 6:10 am, "Alexander Thesoso"
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> 1417 The Polaroid scope camera is/was a common item.
>
> >>>> 1419 Guess... Toasters.
>
> >>>> 1420 Guess... Hydraulic, radial flow power turbine. Water flows
> >>>> inward, between the adjustable stator vanes, and turns an unseen
> >>>> rotor, providing mechanical power to a vertical output shaft.
>
> >>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>
> >>>>> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a
> >>>>> day
> >>>>> earlier than usual.
>
> >>>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> >>>>> Rob
>
> >>> I figure the same, but I'm guessing the water flows from the
> >>> center
> >>> to
> >>> the outer edge.
>
> >> That would make it a pump.
>
> >>> Dave
>
> >> --
> >> --
> >> --John
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> >> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
> > I know at some point they figured out that 'out to in' was more
> > efficient, but this one may be old enough to flow out.
>
> I'd be really surprised if any power at all could be derived from "in
> to out" flow in a radial-flow power turbine.
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
In-to-out, out-to-in, tangential flows, its all been tried and used at
one time or another.
Dave
On Sep 25, 10:01=A0am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Sep 25, 6:10 am, "Alexander Thesoso"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 1417 The Polaroid scope camera is/was a common item.
>
> >> 1419 Guess... Toasters.
>
> >> 1420 Guess... Hydraulic, radial flow power turbine. =A0Water flows
> >> inward, between the adjustable stator vanes, and turns an unseen
> >> rotor, providing mechanical power to a vertical output shaft.
>
> >> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >>> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day
> >>> earlier than usual.
>
> >>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> >>> Rob
>
> > I figure the same, but I'm guessing the water flows from the center
> > to
> > the outer edge.
>
> That would make it a pump.
>
>
>
> > Dave
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
I know at some point they figured out that 'out to in' was more
efficient, but this one may be old enough to flow out.
Dave
My best and worse guesses ...
1417: Accessory for a Beseler photo enlarger.
1418: Old time fat pencil sharpener.
1419: Toasters for the fireplace.
1420: Water control valve. (hydroelectric?)
1421: Hand hay bale fork. (Neaderthal backscratcher)
1422: Electric power distribution transformer.
>As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
>than usual.
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>Rob
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> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
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>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1417. Polaroid Tek cro camera.
1418. A Rabbi's snipping tool (or tooling snip?)
The rest are too hard this week.
On Sep 25, 4:21=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlie=
r
> than usual.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
A tool for tapering tuning pegs.
On Sep 25, 6:10 am, "Alexander Thesoso"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 1417 The Polaroid scope camera is/was a common item.
>
> 1419 Guess... Toasters.
>
> 1420 Guess... Hydraulic, radial flow power turbine. Water flows inward,
> between the adjustable stator vanes, and turns an unseen rotor, providing
> mechanical power to a vertical output shaft.
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
> > than usual.
>
> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> > Rob
I figure the same, but I'm guessing the water flows from the center to
the outer edge.
Dave
> 1417 The Polaroid scope camera is/was a common item.
> 1420 Guess... Hydraulic, radial flow power turbine. Water flows inward,
> between the adjustable stator vanes, and turns an unseen rotor, providing
> mechanical power to a vertical output shaft.
1418, Looks like it is to be assembled or disassembled in a void, like a
casting pattern, but not sure why it has a cutting blade.
1419, postal scale?
1422, 90 degree gear drive?
Hey Rob, Thanks for doing these, i look forward to it every week. I have
been playing "what the heck is that" with my Dad and Uncles all my life, and
thought i was good at it until you came along.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:44:20 -0400, "Steve W."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:21:22 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day
>>> earlier than usual.
>>>
>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>
>
> 1417 - Tektronix scope camera. Takes Polaroid film.
>
> 1418 - Sharpener for something. Or something that tapers a dowel?
>
> 1419 - Toasters
>
> 1420 - Water turbine. Looks a lot like the one that is buried in the
>creek bank near here. It was used to power a box making mill.
>
> 1421 - Back scratcher? Or an early tool for shedding?
>
> 1422 -
Howdy,
1421 is a scoop for nails (when they are sold).
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:21:22 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
>than usual.
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
1417 A Polaroid camera attachment for an electron microscope.
1418 A pencil sharpener?
1419 Toaster(s)
1420 Controllable flow rate valve
1421 ???
1422 90 degree drive???
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> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> : As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day
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> : than usual.
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> : http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> :
> :
> : Rob
>
> 1418: Pencil sharpener or dowel tenoner.
Looks like it might cut a thread on wooden broom handles.
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> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
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>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1417 is a Polaroid Oscilloscope camera. Used for recording oscilloscope
traces in the days before storage scopes and digital devices.
Not a clue on the others as usual!
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> All except the violin maker's tool were answered correctly this week:
>
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> http://answers251-24.blogspot.com/
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>
>
Damn, I don't know what to do. I actually got one right this week.
It has been sooooooo long.
But only because I actually still buy nails in bulk when I get the chance.
Keep up the good work Rob.
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> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
> than usual.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
1421 looks like that little rake in the nail bin at the lumber yard.
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day
> earlier than usual.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
1419 are toasters for use in a fireplace
1420 looks like a burner and air register assembly for a forced draft double
cased boiler.
I crawled through the opening into the furnace more times than I care to
remember to clean firesides during my misspent youth in the Navy.
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> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
> than usual.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1417 The Polaroid scope camera is/was a common item.
1419 Guess... Toasters.
1420 Guess... Hydraulic, radial flow power turbine. Water flows inward,
between the adjustable stator vanes, and turns an unseen rotor, providing
mechanical power to a vertical output shaft.
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
> than usual.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
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> On Sep 25, 6:10 am, "Alexander Thesoso"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 1417 The Polaroid scope camera is/was a common item.
>>
>> 1419 Guess... Toasters.
>>
>> 1420 Guess... Hydraulic, radial flow power turbine. Water flows
>> inward, between the adjustable stator vanes, and turns an unseen
>> rotor, providing mechanical power to a vertical output shaft.
>>
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day
>>> earlier than usual.
>>
>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>> Rob
>
>
> I figure the same, but I'm guessing the water flows from the center
> to
> the outer edge.
That would make it a pump.
>
>
> Dave
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
> than usual.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1417. Polaroid attachment for an oscilloscope or other electronic display .
I've got another one that works same but is built differently.
1418. Insullation stripper for electric wire.
1419. Toasters, for use in front of open fire or coals
1420. Variable turbine, spins shaft at top, gates open or close to vary
flow/power
1421. Rake, (Lee Michaels probably nailed this one.)
Flash
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> On Sep 25, 10:01 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Sep 25, 6:10 am, "Alexander Thesoso"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 1417 The Polaroid scope camera is/was a common item.
>>
>>>> 1419 Guess... Toasters.
>>
>>>> 1420 Guess... Hydraulic, radial flow power turbine. Water flows
>>>> inward, between the adjustable stator vanes, and turns an unseen
>>>> rotor, providing mechanical power to a vertical output shaft.
>>
>>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>>> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a
>>>>> day
>>>>> earlier than usual.
>>
>>>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>>>> Rob
>>
>>> I figure the same, but I'm guessing the water flows from the
>>> center
>>> to
>>> the outer edge.
>>
>> That would make it a pump.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> --
>> --
>> --John
>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
> I know at some point they figured out that 'out to in' was more
> efficient, but this one may be old enough to flow out.
I'd be really surprised if any power at all could be derived from "in
to out" flow in a radial-flow power turbine.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:21:22 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day
>> earlier than usual.
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
1417 - Tektronix scope camera. Takes Polaroid film.
1418 - Sharpener for something. Or something that tapers a dowel?
1419 - Toasters
1420 - Water turbine. Looks a lot like the one that is buried in the
creek bank near here. It was used to power a box making mill.
1421 - Back scratcher? Or an early tool for shedding?
1422 -
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Near Cooperstown, New York
>> http://answers251-24.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
> Damn, I don't know what to do. I actually got one right this week.
>
> It has been sooooooo long.
>
> But only because I actually still buy nails in bulk when I get the chance.
>
> Keep up the good work Rob.
I've never seen a nail rake at a hardware store, I thought they stopped
using this tool years ago.
Turns out that I was mislead on the violin maker's tool, actually it's cue
trimmer, similar to one that I posted a couple years ago, except that one
didn't have the pivoting piece on the side. The patent for it has been
posted on the answer page.
Rob
In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
Well, let's see...
1417 - This is rather clearly an optical device, or a portion of one.
The upper scoop thing seems to be where a user would peer in, while the
straight-through section is where the actual "stuff" happens. It's not
at all clear to me, though, whether the straight through section is
designed to project or to record an image. My hunch is record, so this
would then be some sort of specialized camera, possibly for arial
surveys or for industrial inspections.
1418 - It would seem that you clamp this around something, and twist the
blade to cut. I'll guess what gets cut is the insulation around
relatively large electrical wires--a wire stripper.
1419 - Ye Olde toaster collectionne.
1420 - A turbine of some sort. I'd guess the working fluid is liquid
water. The mechanism at the top opens and shuts the peripheral vanes,
which controls how much water flows and hence how much power is
generated. It would presumably be hooked up to a flyball governor or
similar device.
1421 - Hand-forged cultivator? but that seems to simple....
1422 - A gas pressure regulator, probably for municipal illuminating gas.
Now to see other people's thoughts.
--
Andrew Erickson
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote
>
> I've never seen a nail rake at a hardware store, I thought they stopped
> using this tool years ago.
>
I have seen a couple hardware stores with the nail bins and rakes. But it
is the lumber yard whare I see these the most.
It is a lot easier to use the rake than your fingers to gather up a bunch of
nails.
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 02:24:55 -0400, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> I've never seen a nail rake at a hardware store, I thought they stopped
>> using this tool years ago.
>>
> I have seen a couple hardware stores with the nail bins and rakes. But it
> is the lumber yard whare I see these the most.
>
> It is a lot easier to use the rake than your fingers to gather up a bunch of
> nails.
I've seen them use an ordinary garden tool, with almost the same tines,
but an axial wooden handle. I looked up "garden claw", and about 1 out of
100 are close to what I have in mind. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
On 2008-09-25, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> As I also mention on the web site, next week I'll be posting a day earlier
> than usual.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
1417) A Tektronix oscilloscope camera. Uses (or used) Polaroid
type 107 film for fast exposure times, or possibly type 108
if you want color shots of the green traces.
It could also hold 4x5 cut film holders, or a roll film holder
for the Polaroid type 67 and similar film. (Or was type 47 the
larger roll?)
The 4x5 cut film holder could also use an adaptor for the 4x5
Polaroid sheet film -- type 57 for the high speed version. One
of the versions was type 55 P/N -- it produced a usable negative
as well as a print.
I think that this one is for the Textronix 7000 series 'scopes,
based on the shape of the mounting plate.
You can look down the eyepiece and tunnel, and there is a knob
on the right which will flip a shutter to block off stray light
from the eyepiece when taking your shots.
I've used these many time.
I've got a smaller one for the type 454 portable scopes.
1418) An interesting old pencil sharpener?
1419) Looks as though they are for making toast in a fireplace.
1420) Looks like some form of siren -- fire house type at a guess.
1421) Either for breaking clods in a small garden (the kind you
work on your knees), or for raking coals in a cast iron stove.
1422) Hmm ... two wires coming in at right angles with a small
diameter center conductor, and a lot of insulation, and a dome
which clamps down on the junction point.
Perhaps for making splices in high voltage low current
connections? The dome could hold down glass for insulators, or
perhaps the whole thing is connected to a vacuum pump to
increase the breakdown voltage.
I don't think that is for a RF coax connection given the period.
Now to see what others have guessed.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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Doh! I should have know the pool cue taper one. I've been playing for
years; even against some pros. <hangs head in shame>
Nifty devices tho .. didn't think about nail grabber but makes sense.
>All except the violin maker's tool were answered correctly this week:
>
>http://answers251-24.blogspot.com/
>
>Rob
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:
:
: Rob
1418: Pencil sharpener or dowel tenoner.
Len