O/t: For Those With Hillary Phobia

Sun, Feb 3, 2008, 3:51pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Andrew=A0Barss) did posteth:
first
Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
I heard Hillary on a sound bite yesterday. She was using a deep breathed
mono toned voice to yammer out something that reminded me of how it
might sound coming out of a butch dyke. I literally pictured a woman in
men's jeans, a t-shirt with torn off sleeves, and a crew cut hair cut
To which Andy responded:.
Yeah, that's a good reason not to vote for someone.

A year or so back I read an interview with Hillary, in which she
stated she likes girls. However, that's not the reason I won't vote for
her.

I won't vote for her becaus I do not consider her morally,
ethically, or spiritually, suitable for the position. Then too, there's
the fact that I do not consider her in any way actually qualified for
the position either. I'm not thrilled with ANY of the so-called
candidates, but I consider Hillary the worst. I had a very low opinion
of Slick Willy before he got elected the first time, and that opinion
when downhill from there, and my opinion of Hillary was pretty much the
same.



JOAT - who does not welcome thread question e-mails..

10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I don't have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

Jerry wrote:
> They published a chart in yesterday's paper outlining the candidates
> views on various subjects - Romney's changed wildly over time.
>
> While running for various offices in Massachusetts, he was in favor of
> women's reproductive rights, now he wants to repeal Roe vs Wade.
>
> Gay marriage? In Massachusetts he thought it was OK, now he backs a
> law defining marriage as between a man and a woman.
>
> 2nd Amendment rights? In Massachusetts he supported various weapons
> bans, in 2006 he joined the NRA.
>
> Kinda hard to figure out where he stands on the issues - this guy is
> FLEXIBLE. When he talks about "change", could be he's just referring
> to himself.
>
> That said, I agree, I'd have a hard time voting for any of those
> clowns for dogcatcher.
>
> Jerry

At what point should a politicians vote reflect his own views or opinions vs
what the public indeed wants.....Is there any doubt that all of those
positions in Massachusetts reflect Massachusetts public view? I kind of
think the public should have a voice......And it is the politicians job to
carry it out......Rod

Rod & Betty Jo wrote:

> Jerry wrote:
>> They published a chart in yesterday's paper outlining the candidates
>> views on various subjects - Romney's changed wildly over time.
>>
>> While running for various offices in Massachusetts, he was in favor of
>> women's reproductive rights, now he wants to repeal Roe vs Wade.
>>
>> Gay marriage? In Massachusetts he thought it was OK, now he backs a
>> law defining marriage as between a man and a woman.
>>
>> 2nd Amendment rights? In Massachusetts he supported various weapons
>> bans, in 2006 he joined the NRA.
>>
>> Kinda hard to figure out where he stands on the issues - this guy is
>> FLEXIBLE. When he talks about "change", could be he's just referring
>> to himself.
>>
>> That said, I agree, I'd have a hard time voting for any of those
>> clowns for dogcatcher.
>>
>> Jerry
>
> At what point should a politicians vote reflect his own views or opinions
> vs what the public indeed wants.....Is there any doubt that all of those
> positions in Massachusetts reflect Massachusetts public view? I kind of
> think the public should have a voice......And it is the politicians job to
> carry it out......Rod

The politician's vote should reflect his own views because the people who
elected him/her elected the person whose views most closely matched their
own views. If that doesn't work, you get a Clinton administration that
makes its decisions based upon the polls, that is not the way to run
things. I want to elect someone with strong ideological positions so that
I can trust them to do the right thing, even if there hasn't been time to
conduct a poll to decide what the pollsters think the people want.




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On Feb 5, 10:10=A0am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just Wondering wrote:
> > Jerry wrote:
>
> >> I'd have a hard time voting for any of those
> >> clowns for dogcatcher.
>
> > I'd vote for Hillary for dogcatcher. =A0Chasing wild bitches down the
> > road sounds like a great job for her.
>
> Nahh, that's what Bill does.
>


Too bad John can't read my reply because he plonked me, but he can be
pretty damned funny. LOL

r

On Feb 4, 3:32=A0am, Brian Henderson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Leon wrote:
> > =A0 =A0 =A0I won't vote for her becaus =A0I do not consider her morally,=

> > ethically, or spiritually, suitable for the position. =A0Then too, there=
's
> > the fact that I do not consider her in any way actually qualified for
> > the position either. =A0I'm not thrilled with ANY of the so-called
> > candidates, but I consider Hillary the worst. =A0I had a very low opinio=
n
> > of Slick Willy before he got elected the first time, and that opinion
> > when downhill from there, and my opinion of Hillary was pretty much the
> > same.
>
> I pretty much agree, I think Hillary is probably one of the worst
> candidates running, certainly the worst Democrat. =A0I can't think of a
> single issue I actually agree with her on and I don't want her anywhere
> near the White House. =A0Actually, I don't want *ANY* of them near the
> White House, but that's pretty normal.
>

I though Obama looked kind of interesting for a while, until he rolled
our Oprah.
WTF is SHE doing in this mix? Is she going to give everybody a car?
Please come up here to Kanuckistan, Oprah, we all want to feel good
too!
Self righteous cow.
Dr, Phil for Surgeon General WHOOPEEEEE.
Tom Cruise Secretary Of The Interior?
A tax break for Proctologists? Weeeeeeee

On Feb 4, 1:32=A0am, Brian Henderson

> I pretty much agree, I think Hillary is probably one of the worst
> candidates running, certainly the worst Democrat. =A0I can't think of a
> single issue I actually agree with her on and I don't want her anywhere
> near the White House. =A0Actually, I don't want *ANY* of them near the
> White House, but that's pretty normal.

They're pretty much all a pack of 2-faced hypocrites who'll say
anything to get elected. Romney may be one of the worst of the pack
for speaking out of both sides of his mouth if the Arizona Republic is
to be believed.

They published a chart in yesterday's paper outlining the candidates
views on various subjects - Romney's changed wildly over time.

While running for various offices in Massachusetts, he was in favor of
women's reproductive rights, now he wants to repeal Roe vs Wade.

Gay marriage? In Massachusetts he thought it was OK, now he backs a
law defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

2nd Amendment rights? In Massachusetts he supported various weapons
bans, in 2006 he joined the NRA.

Kinda hard to figure out where he stands on the issues - this guy is
FLEXIBLE. When he talks about "change", could be he's just referring
to himself.

That said, I agree, I'd have a hard time voting for any of those
clowns for dogcatcher.

Jerry

Leon wrote:

> I won't vote for her becaus I do not consider her morally,
> ethically, or spiritually, suitable for the position. Then too, there's
> the fact that I do not consider her in any way actually qualified for
> the position either. I'm not thrilled with ANY of the so-called
> candidates, but I consider Hillary the worst. I had a very low opinion
> of Slick Willy before he got elected the first time, and that opinion
> when downhill from there, and my opinion of Hillary was pretty much the
> same.

I pretty much agree, I think Hillary is probably one of the worst
candidates running, certainly the worst Democrat. I can't think of a
single issue I actually agree with her on and I don't want her anywhere
near the White House. Actually, I don't want *ANY* of them near the
White House, but that's pretty normal.

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Jerry wrote:

> I'd have a hard time voting for any of those
> clowns for dogcatcher.
>

I'd vote for Hillary for dogcatcher. Chasing wild bitches down the road sounds
like a great job for her.

On Feb 5, 11:09=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 10:10=A0am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Just Wondering wrote:
> > > Jerry wrote:
>
> > >> I'd have a hard time voting for any of those
> > >> clowns for dogcatcher.
>
> > > I'd vote for Hillary for dogcatcher. =A0Chasing wild bitches down the
> > > road sounds like a great job for her.
>
> > Nahh, that's what Bill does.
>
> Too bad John can't read my reply because he plonked me, but he can be
> pretty damned funny. LOL
>
> r

=2E.. found this:

Hillary Hopes You've
Forgotten - Have You?


Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most
qualified candidate for president based on her "record," which she
says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or
"co-president" - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder
of what that record includes:

HILLARY, As First Lady, assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a
process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill
Bradley and Pat Moynahan, key votes were needed to pass her
legislation, that she would "demonize "anyone who opposed it. But it
was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress
controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost
control of both the House and Senate.)


HILLARY assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General.
Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced
to withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet
Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as "my worst
mistake."

HILLARY recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights
Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to
be withdrawn.

HILLARY recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince
Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department,
White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later
imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to
resign.

HILLARY also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig
Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security.
When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900
FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of
drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied
knowing him. (FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate
Judiciary Committee in 1996 both the drug use and Hillary's
involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its
White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over
thirty years.)

HILLARY, in order to open "slots" in the White House for her friends
the Harry Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts
could be awarded), had the entire staff of the White House Travel
Office fired. They were reported to the FBI for "gross mismanagement"
and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only
one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with
White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in
less than two hours.


HILLARY also assumed the duty of directing the "bimbo eruption squad"
and scandal defense:


=2E..She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit.


=2E..She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the
appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million
dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to
Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his
affairs.


=2E..Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.


=2E..And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.


=2E..And Bill was impeached by the House.


=2E..And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction
of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, "I do not
recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" 56 times under
oath).


HILLARY accepted the traditional First Lady's role of decorator of the
White House at Christmas, but in a unique Hillary way. In 1994, for
example, The First Lady's Tree in the Blue Room (the focal point each
year) was Decorated with drug paraphernalia, sex toys, and
pornographic ornaments, all personally approved by Hillary as the
invited artists' depictions of the theme, "The Twelve Days of
Christmas."

HILLARY wrote "It Takes a Village," demonstrating her socialist
viewpoint.

HILLARY decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had
never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get
Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support.
Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee,
to get financial support.

HILLARY then left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in
White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen.

HILLARY played the "woman card" in the campaign for the Senate, by
portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her.


HILLARY'S husband further protected her by asking the National
Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their
time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence
and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of
those records.)

HILLARY, as the junior Senator from New York , passed no major
legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend
to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems
of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.


Quite a resume, isn't it? Sounds more like an organized crime family.

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On Feb 4, 8:22=A0pm, Just Wondering <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
> > I'd have a hard time voting for any of those
> > clowns for dogcatcher.
>
> I'd vote for Hillary for dogcatcher. =A0Chasing wild bitches down the road=
sounds
> like a great job for her.

Now you've made her cry again.....

Just Wondering wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
>
>> I'd have a hard time voting for any of those
>> clowns for dogcatcher.
>>
>
> I'd vote for Hillary for dogcatcher. Chasing wild bitches down the
> road sounds like a great job for her.

Nahh, that's what Bill does.

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"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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A year or so back I read an interview with Hillary, in which she
stated she likes girls. However, that's not the reason I won't vote for
her.

I won't vote for her becaus I do not consider her morally,
ethically, or spiritually, suitable for the position. Then too, there's
the fact that I do not consider her in any way actually qualified for
the position either. I'm not thrilled with ANY of the so-called
candidates, but I consider Hillary the worst. I had a very low opinion
of Slick Willy before he got elected the first time, and that opinion
when downhill from there, and my opinion of Hillary was pretty much the
same.



IIRC she was to find a solution for health care in this country when her
husband was elected. She blew it then and now she wants to run the country.

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:24:56 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The politician's vote should reflect his own views

Yep, and I think the framers of the Constitution would have agreed as
well. I doubt the question would have ever come up at the time.

I wonder what the "founding fathers" would think about the
professional politician class that has developed. Too bad they didn't
include term limits in the original document.

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA