"F Murtz" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>before I discovered it makes good pens.
>https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
I agree with the others who suggest that it is eastern red cedar... juniper.
I don't think I've ever seen eastern red cedar intentionally used for
firewood but I do recall seeing such trees burn. A fire ripped through
forests and fields near my childhood home and I recall how the cedars
crackled as they exploded in a ball of flames. It was a memorable
experience!
RE pens, I've seen pens turned from this wood and they looked nice. However,
the wood is so soft that after a bit of use they looked beat up. One fellow
kind of solved that problem by finishing them with a thin variety of CA glue
which soaked in and basically plasticized the wood. I imagine that thinned
lacquer would do the same thing given enough coats.
John
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:30:15 PM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
> Sonny wrote: Eastern red cedar is juniper.
> > Is _a_ juniper,
That's what I meant to type, it is a type of juniper. I've never heard any refer to er cedar as juniper, either.
I would swear it's er cedar, despite it being in Australia. Someone must have grown it. The OP can search this site, to see if there's something else that fits the bill: http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/
Sonny
On 6/30/2013 7:33 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 7:20 AM, F Murtz wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>>>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>>>>
> ...
>
> Eastern red cedar...
That gets my vote, too. Once able to view the picture the very first
thing that popped in my mind was the novelty boxes, mirrors, you name it
that you see in vacation areas (well, here in the Midwest anyways)
Typically little jewelry boxes with a coat of varnish and stamped on it
"Souvenir of the Wisconsin Dells" etc.
Looks a lot prettier as a pen<g>
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>before I discovered it makes good pens.
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
Looks identical to the stuff I'm currently clearing out of my yard
that blew down during the 87mph windstorm this past Thursday - red
cedar.
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:16:30 AM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 9:03 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: ... > That worked. No clue what the wood is, but it sure has a nice red > color, sort of like cedar. That sorta' figures, 'cuz it is... :) --
Yep, ER Cedar. Popped and crackled, a lot, when burned, also. No lasting coals, burned quickly, directly to ashes.
Sonny
F Murtz wrote:
> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
I got the result of "sorry, that page not found".
--
GW Ross
Let he who takes the plunge remember
to return it!
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>Very common proocess in pen-making - and as for using it for firewood,
>there is NO better kindling than just about any variety of "cedar"
Absolutely cedar makes good kindling and tinder... Not so good for firewood
though as it burns fast and pitch pockets pop... definitely don't want the
greens in the fire!
When camping involved cooking over fires (vs. the single burner stove I use
now) I would pull cedar bark off trees, shred it up, and use it for tinder.
Found nothing better.
John
I would think it would burn fast and pop. Lots of oil and scent.
Either cedar or juniper. Might help saying where you are located
and if the tree was local...
Martin
On 6/30/2013 12:23 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 12:05 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>> dpb wrote:
>>> On 6/30/2013 9:03 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> That worked. No clue what the wood is, but it sure has a nice red
>>>> color, sort of like cedar.
>>>
>>> That sorta' figures, 'cuz it is... :)
>>>
> ...
>
>> It has a strong smell but not what I remember of cedar.
>
> How long since it's been cut? It surely looks like cedar in color,
> grain and what can be seen of bark.
>
> Another poster mentioned juniper which is possible, I suppose. Where
> did it come from?
>
> --
>
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:20:10 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>
>Try this.
>https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN2koe3Pq-rTxwE&feat=directlink
That worked. No clue what the wood is, but it sure has a nice red
color, sort of like cedar.
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:20:10 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
>>
>> All I got was a blank page.
>>
>Try this.
>https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN2koe3Pq-rTxwE&feat=directlink
Juniper
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>before I discovered it makes good pens.
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
All I got was a blank page.
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
>
> All I got was a blank page.
>
I am having trouble driving picassa since it updated, when I click on
the url I get the picture, I will see what I can do.
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
>
> All I got was a blank page.
>
Try this.
https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN2koe3Pq-rTxwE&feat=directlink
F Murtz wrote:
>>
> Try this.
> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN2koe3Pq-rTxwE&feat=directlink
That works.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 6/30/2013 7:20 AM, F Murtz wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>>>
...
Eastern red cedar...
--
On 6/30/2013 12:05 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> dpb wrote:
>> On 6/30/2013 9:03 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> That worked. No clue what the wood is, but it sure has a nice red
>>> color, sort of like cedar.
>>
>> That sorta' figures, 'cuz it is... :)
>>
...
> It has a strong smell but not what I remember of cedar.
How long since it's been cut? It surely looks like cedar in color,
grain and what can be seen of bark.
Another poster mentioned juniper which is possible, I suppose. Where
did it come from?
--
On 6/30/2013 2:39 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 12:23:38 PM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
>> Another poster mentioned juniper which is possible, I suppose.
>
> Eastern red cedar is juniper. Juniperus virginiana
Is _a_ juniper, yes...I was presuming the other poster referring to it
as simply juniper was speaking of western juniper or similar than red cedar.
--
On 6/30/2013 3:05 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 2:39 PM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2013 12:23:38 PM UTC-5, dpb wrote:
>>> Another poster mentioned juniper which is possible, I suppose.
>>
>> Eastern red cedar is juniper. Juniperus virginiana
>
> Is _a_ juniper, yes...I was presuming the other poster referring to it
> as simply juniper was speaking of western juniper or similar than red
> cedar.
That is, I've never heard anybody call red cedar just "juniper", even in
Virginia. Maybe there's somewhere that that is common, but it's new to
me if so...
I still think based on the wood and what bark that can be seen that it
is eastern red cedar. If, having been relegated to the wood pile, I'd
guess the odor isn't as pronounced as might otherwise be owing to
weathering...
I'm still open to further information from OP on where it came from,
additional photos of bark, physical description of the tree if known,
etc., etc., etc., to try to confirm/deny but that's my call at the
moment... :)
--
dpb wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 12:05 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>> dpb wrote:
>>> On 6/30/2013 9:03 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> That worked. No clue what the wood is, but it sure has a nice red
>>>> color, sort of like cedar.
>>>
>>> That sorta' figures, 'cuz it is... :)
>>>
> ...
>
>> It has a strong smell but not what I remember of cedar.
>
> How long since it's been cut? It surely looks like cedar in color,
> grain and what can be seen of bark.
>
> Another poster mentioned juniper which is possible, I suppose. Where
> did it come from?
>
> --
>
I am in Australia, bought a second hand wood heater and the wood came
with it and I wish I had not burnt as much before I sawed a bit
diagonally, it probably was grown in a domestic garden.
On 6/30/2013 8:20 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> dpb wrote:
>> On 6/30/2013 12:05 PM, F Murtz wrote:
...
>> Another poster mentioned juniper which is possible, I suppose. Where
>> did it come from?
...
> I am in Australia, bought a second hand wood heater and the wood came
> with it and I wish I had not burnt as much before I sawed a bit
> diagonally, it probably was grown in a domestic garden.
Ooooh...that means could be most anything--I think all of us responding
so far have been USA and thinking of native species here.
It does definitely look like red cedar appearance-wise and I suppose
they could have been imported as ornamentals but they're certainly not
considered high on the list for it in the US except some areas where
it's hard to get much of anything to grow -- like where I am in the
semi-arid western High Plains.
Best guess then might be to take a piece to a local horticultural shop
and see if they can identify it.
--
[email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:51:56 -0400, tommyboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:20:10 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>>>>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
>>>>
>>>> All I got was a blank page.
>>>>
>>> Try this.
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN2koe3Pq-rTxwE&feat=directlink
>>
>> Juniper
> "pencil wood"
>
This does not seem to smell like pencil cedar
On 6/30/2013 6:57 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 6/30/2013 8:20 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>> dpb wrote:
>>> On 6/30/2013 12:05 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> ...
>
>>> Another poster mentioned juniper which is possible, I suppose. Where
>>> did it come from?
> ...
>
>> I am in Australia, bought a second hand wood heater and the wood came
>> with it and I wish I had not burnt as much before I sawed a bit
>> diagonally, it probably was grown in a domestic garden.
>
> Ooooh...that means could be most anything--I think all of us responding
> so far have been USA and thinking of native species here.
>
> It does definitely look like red cedar appearance-wise and I suppose
> they could have been imported as ornamentals but they're certainly not
> considered high on the list for it in the US except some areas where
> it's hard to get much of anything to grow -- like where I am in the
> semi-arid western High Plains.
>
> Best guess then might be to take a piece to a local horticultural shop
> and see if they can identify it.
>
> --
Juniper, cedar, and other shrubs/trees of that family all have a similar
red heartwood and white sapwood - and there are some pretty odd trees in
AU that may look like that - beware though, my experience is that almost
anything native to Australia is poisonous - beware of the dust until you
know what it is (the bark looks like juniper to me)
John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "F Murtz" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
>>
>
> I agree with the others who suggest that it is eastern red cedar...
> juniper.
>
> I don't think I've ever seen eastern red cedar intentionally used for
> firewood but I do recall seeing such trees burn. A fire ripped through
> forests and fields near my childhood home and I recall how the cedars
> crackled as they exploded in a ball of flames. It was a memorable
> experience!
>
> RE pens, I've seen pens turned from this wood and they looked nice.
> However, the wood is so soft that after a bit of use they looked beat
> up. One fellow kind of solved that problem by finishing them with a thin
> variety of CA glue which soaked in and basically plasticized the wood. I
> imagine that thinned lacquer would do the same thing given enough coats.
>
> John
>
>
I use superglue (cyanoacrylate or CA.for short) as a lot of pen makers
do, it is being increasingly used on small bowls pepper grinders etc.
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
>Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>before I discovered it makes good pens.
>https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
Shows 'page not found'.
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:39:48 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> "F Murtz" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
>>>
>>
>> I agree with the others who suggest that it is eastern red cedar...
>> juniper.
>>
>> I don't think I've ever seen eastern red cedar intentionally used for
>> firewood but I do recall seeing such trees burn. A fire ripped through
>> forests and fields near my childhood home and I recall how the cedars
>> crackled as they exploded in a ball of flames. It was a memorable
>> experience!
>>
>> RE pens, I've seen pens turned from this wood and they looked nice.
>> However, the wood is so soft that after a bit of use they looked beat
>> up. One fellow kind of solved that problem by finishing them with a thin
>> variety of CA glue which soaked in and basically plasticized the wood. I
>> imagine that thinned lacquer would do the same thing given enough coats.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>I use superglue (cyanoacrylate or CA.for short) as a lot of pen makers
>do, it is being increasingly used on small bowls pepper grinders etc.
Even a good urethane varnish can firm up cedar (and mahogany) quite
well - water born better than solvent.
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:57:16 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"F Murtz" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>>before I discovered it makes good pens.
>
>>https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
>
>I agree with the others who suggest that it is eastern red cedar... juniper.
>
>I don't think I've ever seen eastern red cedar intentionally used for
>firewood but I do recall seeing such trees burn. A fire ripped through
>forests and fields near my childhood home and I recall how the cedars
>crackled as they exploded in a ball of flames. It was a memorable
>experience!
>
>RE pens, I've seen pens turned from this wood and they looked nice. However,
>the wood is so soft that after a bit of use they looked beat up. One fellow
>kind of solved that problem by finishing them with a thin variety of CA glue
>which soaked in and basically plasticized the wood. I imagine that thinned
>lacquer would do the same thing given enough coats.
>
>John
>
Very common proocess in pen-making - and as for using it for firewood,
there is NO better kindling than just about any variety of "cedar"
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:51:56 -0400, tommyboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:20:10 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:58:15 +1000, F Murtz <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can any one identify this wood, I got it as firewood and burned a lot
>>>> before I discovered it makes good pens.
>>>>
>>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013#5895193133194393666
>>>
>>> All I got was a blank page.
>>>
>>Try this.
>>https://picasaweb.google.com/113020386164842470958/June302013?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN2koe3Pq-rTxwE&feat=directlink
>
>Juniper
"pencil wood"