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"Locutus"

21/02/2006 11:32 AM

eBay Dovetail Jigs

http://cgi.ebay.com/12-DOVETAIL-JIG-JOINTS-MACHINE-COMPATIBLE-W-ROUTER_W0QQitemZ7592150331QQcategoryZ46584QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

anyone have any experience with these?


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Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 1:46 PM


"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Dukes909" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/12-DOVETAIL-JIG-JOINTS-MACHINE-COMPATIBLE-W-ROUTER_W0QQitemZ7592150331QQcategoryZ46584QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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>>> anyone have any experience with these?
>>
>> Looks like the Harbor Freight "blue monster" dovetail jig. I think they
>> put it on sale for about $25 or $30 occaisionally..cheaper than this ebay
>> sale anyway. I have one and it actually cuts decent dovetails but it's a
>> beast to get everything just right on it. Remember you can't adjust the
>> spacing or pin layout with these jigs. I guess you could cut the sides
>> oversized and then cut them down to get half pins on each end,...
>> (shuddering at the setup time again).
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Dukester
>
> Thanks, so while it might work, it sounds like setup would be a pain? Is
> that the main advantage of the more expensive jigs?

There are several eBayers that resell the crap Horror Fright sells. Its
truly buyer beware with them.
I have the Leigh and it is very easy to setup and make many different type
and sizes of dovetails. It is a joy to use. I do not regret spending the
extra money for it. That said Leigh has introduced a smaller 1600 version
and it looks like it would do very well for less money that their 2200.

Dave



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"Andy"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 2:15 PM

Well, if you really can't afford or justify a high-end jig, for a few
dollars more than ebay, you could get Rockler's half blind dovetail
jig. I just got a new catalog that says it's on sale for $59.99 + $10
shipping (the ebay one with shipping was at least $65).
Andy

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"brianlanning"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

24/02/2006 6:39 AM

No. How's that for helpful. :-) I do have a leigh D4 though. If it
were me starting out, I wouldn't go with one of the cheaper jigs. I
would do one of two things. The first I would try is to cut dovetails
on the band saw. David Marks does this in one of the woodworks
episodes. There's not very much chisel work in that case, but there is
some. The other thing I would try is this tablesaw technique I saw in
fine woodworking a year or two back. In that case, this guy had a
special tablesaw blade reground so that all the teeth beveled the same
direction, and at a dovetail angle, like maybe 8 degrees. Then he
would tilt the saw blade to 8 degrees to match. Then he would gang the
drawers together and cut one side of the tails, then flip it around and
cut the other sides. The special grind got into the corners of the
tails perfectly. All that was left was this tiny triangle that was
trivial to chisel out. Then I think he used a stacked dado set with
the miter gauge set to 8 degrees to do the pins. I've been thinking
about trying that technique anyway. The skinniest pin any dovetail
machine can give you is the thickness of the shank on the dovetail bit.
For the tablesaw technique, it's the sawblade kerf.

brian

Dd

"Dukes909"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 11:00 AM

"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/12-DOVETAIL-JIG-JOINTS-MACHINE-COMPATIBLE-W-ROUTER_W0QQitemZ7592150331QQcategoryZ46584QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> anyone have any experience with these?

Looks like the Harbor Freight "blue monster" dovetail jig. I think they put
it on sale for about $25 or $30 occaisionally..cheaper than this ebay sale
anyway. I have one and it actually cuts decent dovetails but it's a beast
to get everything just right on it. Remember you can't adjust the spacing
or pin layout with these jigs. I guess you could cut the sides oversized
and then cut them down to get half pins on each end,... (shuddering at the
setup time again).

Cheers!
Dukester

LL

"Locutus"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 12:00 PM


"Dukes909" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/12-DOVETAIL-JIG-JOINTS-MACHINE-COMPATIBLE-W-ROUTER_W0QQitemZ7592150331QQcategoryZ46584QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> anyone have any experience with these?
>
> Looks like the Harbor Freight "blue monster" dovetail jig. I think they
> put it on sale for about $25 or $30 occaisionally..cheaper than this ebay
> sale anyway. I have one and it actually cuts decent dovetails but it's a
> beast to get everything just right on it. Remember you can't adjust the
> spacing or pin layout with these jigs. I guess you could cut the sides
> oversized and then cut them down to get half pins on each end,...
> (shuddering at the setup time again).
>
> Cheers!
> Dukester

Thanks, so while it might work, it sounds like setup would be a pain? Is
that the main advantage of the more expensive jigs?

Dd

"Dukes909"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 11:32 AM

"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thanks, so while it might work, it sounds like setup would be a pain? Is
> that the main advantage of the more expensive jigs?

I think their advantages are the ability to do through and half-blind
dovetails (the HF jig only does half-blinds contrary to this ad that says
"standard dovetails"). Plus you can vary the spacing of the layout.
Someone that owns a Leigh or other jig can answer better than me regarding
setup time since I don't have one, but I think it must be easier than this
one.

Are you planning on cutting a lot of dovetails? If so, the Leigh is
probably a good investment. If you're only doing a few I'd recommend
learning to cut them by hand. I did this last winter and had good success
with it and enjoyed it far more than the aggravation of this jig. Spend the
money on a good chisel and saw and maybe the Veritas dovetail guide instead.

Cheers!
Dukester

Dd

"Dukes909"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 2:49 PM

"Joe T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just got the Porter Cable DT jig. No assembly required and easy to use
> and

Which Porter Cable jig did you buy?

Cc

"CathyLee"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

24/02/2006 12:26 PM

I would like to hear comments also..:>) anyone?

CathyLee



"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> anyone have any experience with these?
>

JT

"Joe T"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 7:48 PM

I got the 4212 plus the optional mini dt template for smaller boxes.

Joe T

"Dukes909" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Joe T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Just got the Porter Cable DT jig. No assembly required and easy to use
>> and
>
> Which Porter Cable jig did you buy?
>

RS

"Rick Samuel"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 5:10 PM

I just got PC 4212 from Amazon, total price $126. Had two bits and two
guides Looks like the ebay one has neither.

CT

Chuck Taylor

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 12:03 PM

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:32:08 -0600, "Dukes909"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Thanks, so while it might work, it sounds like setup would be a pain? Is
>> that the main advantage of the more expensive jigs?
>
>I think their advantages are the ability to do through and half-blind
>dovetails (the HF jig only does half-blinds contrary to this ad that says
>"standard dovetails"). Plus you can vary the spacing of the layout.
>Someone that owns a Leigh or other jig can answer better than me regarding
>setup time since I don't have one, but I think it must be easier than this
>one.


The advantages of the Leigh jig are adjustability and versatility, not
necessarily setup time.


--
Chuck Taylor
http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorc/contact/

JT

"Joe T"

in reply to "Locutus" on 21/02/2006 11:32 AM

21/02/2006 3:33 PM

Just got the Porter Cable DT jig. No assembly required and easy to use and
set up. Built-in guides to set the depth of the router bit. Took me about
45 minutes of reading instructions and had my first blind dovetails that fit
tight and in perfect alignment. Haven't tried making thru dovetails yet but
I expect they should be pretty easy as well. I also picked up their mini
template for small boxes.

A worthwhile investment if you intend to make drawers, jewelry boxes, etc.

Joe T.

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> anyone have any experience with these?
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