the butcher block oil that you get from Rockler and WoodCraft is just
mineral oil like you get at the pharmacy at a slight(5X) mark up.
I did find some leamon oil(in really fine print it says mineral oil based)
and bees wax stuff for cutting boards that looks like it works rather well,
don't know how well it will hold up.
Richard
There is no such thing as food grade mineral oil. Mineral oil is a
laxative, not a food. USP mineral oil, sold as a laxative in most stores,
is as good as it gets.
"Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well.... Yes and no.
>
> There are many grades of mineral oil. To be the very safest, one
> should use food grade mineral oil. You can get lesser grades for
> cheaper. The food grade stuff can still be had for pretty cheap if you
> buy it right.
>
Andy Dingley wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:17:38 -0700, Richard Clements
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I did find some leamon oil(in really fine print it says mineral oil based)
>
> What does it smell like ? My lemon oil is entirely vegetable, being
> pressed from lemongrass.
>
my guess is it has some leamon grass fluid in it but the bulk is mineral oil
Got wax, too, plus linseed for odor....
http://www.your-kitchen.com/html/johnboos/mys.htm
"Ken Yee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "George" <george@least> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> > laxative, not a food. USP mineral oil, sold as a laxative in most
> > stores, is as good as it gets.
>
> And Boos is selling this as the magic snake "Boos Oil" for lots more?
> That just isn't nice... :-)
>
> ken
More or less comparable to searching on "new and improved," I should think.
Both are advertisespeak.
"Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well a quick Google search on "Food Grade Mineral Oil" might tend to
> refute your assertion, but it could be a matter of semantics. I don't
> have my direct supplier references with me now but here is one from
> Citgo.
>
>
http://www.citgo.com/Products/LubesOils/CITGOBrand/CITGOBrandWhiteMineralOils.jsp
>
> Of course the importance of discussing this minutia is surely
> questionable but I do enjoy the discourse.
>
> BW
>
> "George" <george@least> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > There is no such thing as food grade mineral oil. Mineral oil is a
> > laxative, not a food. USP mineral oil, sold as a laxative in most
stores,
> > is as good as it gets.
> >
> > "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Well.... Yes and no.
> > >
> > > There are many grades of mineral oil. To be the very safest, one
> > > should use food grade mineral oil. You can get lesser grades for
> > > cheaper. The food grade stuff can still be had for pretty cheap if you
> > > buy it right.
> > >
OK, eat as much as you like, and enjoy. Read FDA and you'll find it's the
one that gives blessing to GRAS oils and resins.
"Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I love this back and forth!!!
>
> Well, I think FDA, National Formulary and US Pharmacopeia may consider
> "Food Grade" as a bit more than "advertisespeak" (read below). And I
> know from advertisespeak, being a marketeer in my day job.
>
> The Food industry accepts "Food Grade" as the common vernacular for
> compliance with the following standards.
>
> Mineral oils that meet or exceed requirements set forth in the U.S.
> FDA regulations 21 CFR 172.878 for use in or on food for human
> consumption, and 21 CFR 178.3620 (a) for use as a component of nonfood
> articles intended for use in contact with food for human consumption.
> Citgo's oils also happen to be certified as Kosher with the Union of
> Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America.
>
> Oils that meet the current standards of the National Formulary (NF) or
> US Pharmacopeia (USP), and are registered as 3H and H1 lubricants for
> direct and incidental food contact by NSF, for use in food plants
> under the jurisdiction of the USDA. CITGO Clarion Food Grade White
> Mineral Oil 200 conforms to the requirements of ANSI/NSF Standard 60,
> Drinking Water Treatment Chemicals.
>
>
> "George" <george@least> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > More or less comparable to searching on "new and improved," I should
think.
> > Both are advertisespeak.
> >
> > "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Well a quick Google search on "Food Grade Mineral Oil" might tend to
> > > refute your assertion, but it could be a matter of semantics. I don't
> > > have my direct supplier references with me now but here is one from
> > > Citgo.
> > >
> > >
> >
http://www.citgo.com/Products/LubesOils/CITGOBrand/CITGOBrandWhiteMineralOils.jsp
> > >
> > > Of course the importance of discussing this minutia is surely
> > > questionable but I do enjoy the discourse.
> > >
> > > BW
> > >
> > > "George" <george@least> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > There is no such thing as food grade mineral oil. Mineral oil is a
> > > > laxative, not a food. USP mineral oil, sold as a laxative in most
> > stores,
> > > > is as good as it gets.
> > > >
> > > > "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > Well.... Yes and no.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are many grades of mineral oil. To be the very safest, one
> > > > > should use food grade mineral oil. You can get lesser grades for
> > > > > cheaper. The food grade stuff can still be had for pretty cheap if
you
> > > > > buy it right.
> > > > >
George wrote:
> OK, eat as much as you like, and enjoy.pharmacyDA and you'll find it's the
> one that gives blessing to GRAS oils and resins.
>
> "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I love this back and forth!!!
>>
>> Well, I think FDA, National Formulary and US Pharmacopeia may consider
>> "Food Grade" as a bit more than "advertisespeak" (read below). And I
>> know from advertisespeak, being a marketeer in my day job.
>>
>> The Food industry accepts "Food Grade" as the common vernacular for
>> compliance with the following standards.
>>
>> Mineral oils that meet or exceed requirements set forth in the U.S.
>> FDA regulations 21 CFR 172.878 for use in or on food for human
>> consumption, and 21 CFR 178.3620 (a) for use as a component of nonfood
>> articles intended for use in contact with food for human consumption.
>> Citgo's oils also happen to be certified as Kosher with the Union of
>> Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America.
>>
>> Oils that meet the current standards of the National Formulary (NF) or
>> US Pharmacopeia (USP), and are registered as 3H and H1 lubricants for
>> direct and incidental food contact by NSF, for use in food plants
>> under the jurisdiction of the USDA. CITGO Clarion Food Grade White
>> Mineral Oil 200 conforms to the requirements of ANSI/NSF Standard 60,
>> Drinking Water Treatment Chemicals.
>>
>>
>> "George" <george@least> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> > More or less comparable to searching on "new and improved," I should
> think.
>> > Both are advertisespeak.
>> >
>> > "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> > > Well a quick Google search on "Food Grade Mineral Oil" might tend to
>> > > refute your assertion, but it could be a matter of semantics. I don't
>> > > have my direct supplier references with me now but here is one from
>> > > Citgo.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>
http://www.citgo.com/Products/LubesOils/CITGOBrand/CITGOBrandWhiteMineralOils.jsp
>> > >
>> > > Of course the importance of discussing this minutia is surely
>> > > questionable but I do enjoy the discourse.
>> > >
>> > > BW
>> > >
>> > > "George" <george@least> wrote in message
>> > news:<[email protected]>...
>> > > > There is no such thing as food grade mineral oil. Mineral oil is a
>> > > > laxative, not a food. USP mineral oil, sold as a laxative in most
>> > stores,
>> > > > is as good as it gets.
>> > > >
>> > > > "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > > > news:[email protected]...
>> > > > > Well.... Yes and no.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There are many grades of mineral oil. To be the very safest, one
>> > > > > should use food grade mineral oil. You can get lesser grades for
>> > > > > cheaper. The food grade stuff can still be had for pretty cheap
>> > > > > if
> you
>> > > > > buy it right.
>> > > > >
the only mineral oil I can find anywhere else is at the pharmacy and it
should be food safe, the directions on the bottle read "take 2 tbsp to help
prevent intestanil blockage" 2 tbsp is a lot more then your ever going to
get off a cutting board
Uh-oh, can't use it if it doesn't say "food grade."
My bottle doesn't either.
"Richard Clements" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> the only mineral oil I can find anywhere else is at the pharmacy and it
> should be food safe, the directions on the bottle read "take 2 tbsp to
help
> prevent intestanil blockage" 2 tbsp is a lot more then your ever going to
> get off a cutting board
Point of the discussion. The commonly available oil is USP. I'm sure you'd
have to go a lot of places to find it labeled otherwise.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:41:32 -0500, "George" <george@least> wrote:
>
> >Uh-oh, can't use it if it doesn't say "food grade."
>
> how about "medical grade"?
"George" <george@least> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> laxative, not a food. USP mineral oil, sold as a laxative in most
> stores, is as good as it gets.
And Boos is selling this as the magic snake "Boos Oil" for lots more?
That just isn't nice... :-)
ken
Well.... Yes and no.
There are many grades of mineral oil. To be the very safest, one
should use food grade mineral oil. You can get lesser grades for
cheaper. The food grade stuff can still be had for pretty cheap if you
buy it right.
I believe most butcher block oil vendors use the grade that is
actually called food grade but is not the highest quality. The grade
they use is for lubricating machinery, such as conveyor belts, where
incendintal contact may occur with the food. It is not used as an
ingredient. It is also used to spary (in very small quantities) inside
rice silos to minimize the dust. Also the main ingredient used to make
gel candles.
Then there is the real pure stuff, this is used in medical
applications as a subtsrate for other concoctions, used to make gel
caps and used in cosmetics and sold as a laxitive. Also called
parrifin oil. Even this stuff can be had pretty cheap too but is more
expensive. However, you have to buy it in real big quantities because
it has to be transfered in a clean room type environment and the
distributors don't want to crak the barrels.
I was able to get the basic food grade stuff for about $12 a gallon
(in gallons) but it cost that much again to have it shipped from
Texas. I can get it for about $3 a gallon once I'm ready to buy it in
55 gal drums.
Most of the vendors mix in some bees wax, orange essence, etc to give
it more panash but yes, it's just the same stuff they are using as a
laxative.
I have the material saftey shhest some where and some Chevron part
numbers of you need them.
BW
Richard Clements <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> the butcher block oil that you get from Rockler and WoodCraft is just
> mineral oil like you get at the pharmacy at a slight(5X) mark up.
>
> I did find some leamon oil(in really fine print it says mineral oil based)
> and bees wax stuff for cutting boards that looks like it works rather well,
> don't know how well it will hold up.
>
> Richard
Well a quick Google search on "Food Grade Mineral Oil" might tend to
refute your assertion, but it could be a matter of semantics. I don't
have my direct supplier references with me now but here is one from
Citgo.
http://www.citgo.com/Products/LubesOils/CITGOBrand/CITGOBrandWhiteMineralOils.jsp
Of course the importance of discussing this minutia is surely
questionable but I do enjoy the discourse.
BW
"George" <george@least> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> There is no such thing as food grade mineral oil. Mineral oil is a
> laxative, not a food. USP mineral oil, sold as a laxative in most stores,
> is as good as it gets.
>
> "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Well.... Yes and no.
> >
> > There are many grades of mineral oil. To be the very safest, one
> > should use food grade mineral oil. You can get lesser grades for
> > cheaper. The food grade stuff can still be had for pretty cheap if you
> > buy it right.
> >
I love this back and forth!!!
Well, I think FDA, National Formulary and US Pharmacopeia may consider
"Food Grade" as a bit more than "advertisespeak" (read below). And I
know from advertisespeak, being a marketeer in my day job.
The Food industry accepts "Food Grade" as the common vernacular for
compliance with the following standards.
Mineral oils that meet or exceed requirements set forth in the U.S.
FDA regulations 21 CFR 172.878 for use in or on food for human
consumption, and 21 CFR 178.3620 (a) for use as a component of nonfood
articles intended for use in contact with food for human consumption.
Citgo's oils also happen to be certified as Kosher with the Union of
Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America.
Oils that meet the current standards of the National Formulary (NF) or
US Pharmacopeia (USP), and are registered as 3H and H1 lubricants for
direct and incidental food contact by NSF, for use in food plants
under the jurisdiction of the USDA. CITGO Clarion Food Grade White
Mineral Oil 200 conforms to the requirements of ANSI/NSF Standard 60,
Drinking Water Treatment Chemicals.
"George" <george@least> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> More or less comparable to searching on "new and improved," I should think.
> Both are advertisespeak.
>
> "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Well a quick Google search on "Food Grade Mineral Oil" might tend to
> > refute your assertion, but it could be a matter of semantics. I don't
> > have my direct supplier references with me now but here is one from
> > Citgo.
> >
> >
> http://www.citgo.com/Products/LubesOils/CITGOBrand/CITGOBrandWhiteMineralOils.jsp
> >
> > Of course the importance of discussing this minutia is surely
> > questionable but I do enjoy the discourse.
> >
> > BW
> >
> > "George" <george@least> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > There is no such thing as food grade mineral oil. Mineral oil is a
> > > laxative, not a food. USP mineral oil, sold as a laxative in most
> stores,
> > > is as good as it gets.
> > >
> > > "Bill Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Well.... Yes and no.
> > > >
> > > > There are many grades of mineral oil. To be the very safest, one
> > > > should use food grade mineral oil. You can get lesser grades for
> > > > cheaper. The food grade stuff can still be had for pretty cheap if you
> > > > buy it right.
> > > >
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:45:50 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>Uh-oh, can't use it if it doesn't say "food grade."
>
>how about "medical grade"?
I generally settle for veterinary grade. Although I'm sure stockholm
tar wouldn't count as "food grade" whoever it was intended for.
I love the farm shop. You can get _anything_ in there, even a complete
copper plating setup.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:17:38 -0700, Richard Clements
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I did find some leamon oil(in really fine print it says mineral oil based)
What does it smell like ? My lemon oil is entirely vegetable, being
pressed from lemongrass.
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