On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:20 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote the
following:
>"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>
>Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
Um, haven't you ever seen a bench dog in use before?!? The wire
provides tension between the dog and dog hole to keep a headless dog
from dropping through the hole onto the floor. http://fwd4.me/YKO
--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711
On 2010-07-23 22:12:20 -0400, busbus <[email protected]> said:
> This is pretty interesting but where can you get something that would
> replace a street sweeper bristle??
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-bench-dogs-for-less-than-1/
Simple. You look at the side of the road -- just like it says in step
2!* (Did you notice the bench dog and Wonder Pup pictured in Step 2?)
Also, Step 4 tells you to drill a whole. A whole what?
*Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
"...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
metal like the ones used to make springs. "
On 2010-07-23 23:15:02 -0400, "Artemus" <[email protected]> said:
> Some windshield wipers have 2 metal strips down each side. They are
> quite springy and I use these for all kinds of makeshift springs. I even
> made a micro chisel for some detail work. It didn't stay sharp for very
> long but it didn't have to either.
Good idea! and I just happen to have a couple lying about. Just KNEW
this stuff was too good to throw away...
"SBH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:20 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote the
>> following:
>>
>>>"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
>>>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>>>
>>>Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
>>
>> Um, haven't you ever seen a bench dog in use before?!? The wire
>> provides tension between the dog and dog hole to keep a headless dog
>> from dropping through the hole onto the floor. http://fwd4.me/YKO
>
> That's what I assumed but why not just make them with a bigger head? The
> ones I use are a peg with a head on it.
>
All this talk about making some cheap WOOD bench dogs. And adding springs
to them.
I found a small maple workbench at a local store that was a closeout. There
were some parts missing including the benchdogs. I talked them down on price
and got it home. I measured the holes and saw that they were 3/8". So I took
a 3/8" bolt and put it in there. It fit perfectly.
Soooooo....., I cut the threads off some 3/8" bolts. I made up some of
different lengths. They work just fine. If I am concerned about the metal
marking the board, I just use a small piece of scrap to protect the wood.
A number of people wanted me to make them some "boltdogs" too. At the time,
I had a small, horizontal metal bandaw. I would cut the threads off and
smooth the cut's edge with a file. It takes about 2 minutes to make one.
With a hacksaw, a little longer. The bolts are cheap and never wear out.
"Lee Michaels" wrote:
> All this talk about making some cheap WOOD bench dogs. And adding
> springs to them.
>
> I found a small maple workbench at a local store that was a
> closeout. There were some parts missing including the benchdogs. I
> talked them down on price and got it home. I measured the holes and
> saw that they were 3/8". So I took a 3/8" bolt and put it in there.
> It fit perfectly.
>
> Soooooo....., I cut the threads off some 3/8" bolts. I made up some
> of different lengths. They work just fine. If I am concerned about
> the metal marking the board, I just use a small piece of scrap to
> protect the wood.
>
> A number of people wanted me to make them some "boltdogs" too. At
> the time, I had a small, horizontal metal bandaw. I would cut the
> threads off and smooth the cut's edge with a file. It takes about 2
> minutes to make one. With a hacksaw, a little longer. The bolts are
> cheap and never wear out.
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Now go whole hog and use bronze bolts.
Just a touch of class.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Lee Michaels" wrote:
>
>> All this talk about making some cheap WOOD bench dogs. And adding
>> springs to them.
>>
>> I found a small maple workbench at a local store that was a closeout.
>> There were some parts missing including the benchdogs. I talked them down
>> on price and got it home. I measured the holes and saw that they were
>> 3/8". So I took a 3/8" bolt and put it in there. It fit perfectly.
>>
>> Soooooo....., I cut the threads off some 3/8" bolts. I made up some of
>> different lengths. They work just fine. If I am concerned about the metal
>> marking the board, I just use a small piece of scrap to protect the wood.
>>
>> A number of people wanted me to make them some "boltdogs" too. At the
>> time, I had a small, horizontal metal bandaw. I would cut the threads off
>> and smooth the cut's edge with a file. It takes about 2 minutes to make
>> one. With a hacksaw, a little longer. The bolts are cheap and never wear
>> out.
>
> -----------------------------
> Now go whole hog and use bronze bolts.
>
> Just a touch of class.
>
Never thought of that. I just had the old, ordinary, zinc plated ones laying
around from another project. Hmmmmm,,,,,
I used to make gym equipment. I have gone down to the fastener store with a
mockup of a joint between two peices of metal. I told the guy behind the
counter that I wanted something that looked good in this application.
Preferably something that is not zinc plated or black. He brought back some
pretty looking fasteners.
And just like women, the prettier they are, the more they cost.
"Lee Michaels" wrote:
> Never thought of that. I just had the old, ordinary, zinc plated
> ones laying around from another project. Hmmmmm,,,,,
>
> I used to make gym equipment. I have gone down to the fastener store
> with a mockup of a joint between two peices of metal. I told the guy
> behind the counter that I wanted something that looked good in this
> application. Preferably something that is not zinc plated or black.
> He brought back some pretty looking fasteners.
>
> And just like women, the prettier they are, the more they cost.
-----------------------------
Remember Charlie?
Only the best get to be Star-Kist.
Zinc plated doesn't cut it.
Lew
On Jul 23, 10:12=A0pm, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is pretty interesting but where can you get something that would
> replace a street sweeper bristle??
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-bench-dogs-for-less-than-1/
Fish tape.
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:28:33 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:16:07 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:20 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote the
>>>> following:
>>>>
>>>>>"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>>>>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick
>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
>>>>
>>>> Um, haven't you ever seen a bench dog in use before?!? The wire
>>>> provides tension between the dog and dog hole to keep a headless dog
>>>> from dropping through the hole onto the floor. http://fwd4.me/YKO
>>>
>>>That's what I assumed but why not just make them with a bigger head? The
>>>ones I use are a peg with a head on it.
>>
>> The head will put a large divot in your plane's iron?
>
>No more than the flat side of that dowel mockup.
The dowel top goes below the surface of the work piece. A headed peg can't be
placed lower than the height of the head. ...or higher, for that matter.
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:08:13 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:28:33 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The dowel top goes below the surface of the work piece. A headed peg
>> can't be
>> placed lower than the height of the head. ...or higher, for that matter.
>
>
>Perhaps I'm missing something but I would think using a wider larger head
>would provide less of a chance to dent the material while using a smaller
>straight flat section in the middle of your work. Similar to distributing
>your body weight by laying down on ice compared to standing.
Maybe I'm missing what you're missing. ;-) Wider is not taller. A
cylindrical peg with a half-flat top will give the largest surface area for a
constant diameter, sure. However, that doesn't mean the head has to be larger
than the shank. A larger head will keep the peg from falling through, well
enough, but it may also stick above the work piece where a plane's iron can
hit it (not good for Mr. Plane). Headless dogs can be set below the work
piece's surface, out of the way of the plane's iron.
"SBH" <[email protected]> writes:
> "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>
>>>
>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>
>>
>
>
> Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
I didn't see the video, but I assume it's to prevent the bench dog
from falling down the hole.
"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>
Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:28:33 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The dowel top goes below the surface of the work piece. A headed peg
> can't be
> placed lower than the height of the head. ...or higher, for that matter.
Perhaps I'm missing something but I would think using a wider larger head
would provide less of a chance to dent the material while using a smaller
straight flat section in the middle of your work. Similar to distributing
your body weight by laying down on ice compared to standing.
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:20 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote the
> following:
>
>>"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
>>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>>
>>Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
>
> Um, haven't you ever seen a bench dog in use before?!? The wire
> provides tension between the dog and dog hole to keep a headless dog
> from dropping through the hole onto the floor. http://fwd4.me/YKO
That's what I assumed but why not just make them with a bigger head? The
ones I use are a peg with a head on it.
"Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Jul 23, 10:12 pm, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This is pretty interesting but where can you get something that would
>> replace a street sweeper bristle??
>>
>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-bench-dogs-for-less-than-1/
>
> Fish tape.
I was doing okay until I got to the part about, "Drill a whole...." A whole
what?
I bought some aluminum bench dogs years ago, cost a few bucks each. When
something is that cheap it's hard to get motivated about making some, it's
not like $15 Veritas dogs are the only game in town.
"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Some windshield wipers have 2 metal strips down each side. They are
>quite springy and I use these for all kinds of makeshift springs. I even
>made a micro chisel for some detail work. It didn't stay sharp for very
>long but it didn't have to either.
I've been saving a few to make lock picks...
On Jul 23, 10:45=A0pm, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2010-07-23 22:12:20 -0400, busbus <[email protected]> said:
>
> > This is pretty interesting but where can you get something that would
> > replace a street sweeper bristle??
>
> >http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-bench-dogs-for-less-than-1/
>
> Simple. You look at the side of the road -- just like it says in step
> 2!* (Did you notice the bench dog and Wonder Pup pictured in Step 2?)
>
> Also, Step 4 tells you to drill a whole. A whole what?
>
> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
> metal like the ones used to make springs.=A0"
Well, it also says if you are live in a community that has a street
cleaner that uses steel wire! I don't live in such an area.
That said, I like the idea of a wiper blade.
And, yes, I did notice the Wonder Pup! It was pretty ironic that he
used one of those to build his bench dog.
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:16:07 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:20 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote the
>>> following:
>>>
>>>>"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>>>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>>>>
>>>>Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
>>>
>>> Um, haven't you ever seen a bench dog in use before?!? The wire
>>> provides tension between the dog and dog hole to keep a headless dog
>>> from dropping through the hole onto the floor. http://fwd4.me/YKO
>>
>>That's what I assumed but why not just make them with a bigger head? The
>>ones I use are a peg with a head on it.
>
> The head will put a large divot in your plane's iron?
No more than the flat side of that dowel mockup.
"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2010-07-23 22:12:20 -0400, busbus <[email protected]> said:
>
> > This is pretty interesting but where can you get something that would
> > replace a street sweeper bristle??
> >
> > http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-bench-dogs-for-less-than-1/
>
> Simple. You look at the side of the road -- just like it says in step
> 2!* (Did you notice the bench dog and Wonder Pup pictured in Step 2?)
>
> Also, Step 4 tells you to drill a whole. A whole what?
>
> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>
Some windshield wipers have 2 metal strips down each side. They are
quite springy and I use these for all kinds of makeshift springs. I even
made a micro chisel for some detail work. It didn't stay sharp for very
long but it didn't have to either.
Art
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:20 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote the
> following:
>
>>"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
>>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>>
>>Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
>
> Um, haven't you ever seen a bench dog in use before?!? The wire
> provides tension between the dog and dog hole to keep a headless dog
> from dropping through the hole onto the floor. http://fwd4.me/YKO
Headless dogs, frozen kitty push sticks, if PETA ever shows up there'll be
hell to pay!
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:58:01 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:20 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote the
>> following:
>>
>>>"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
>>>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>>>
>>>Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
>>
>> Um, haven't you ever seen a bench dog in use before?!? The wire
>> provides tension between the dog and dog hole to keep a headless dog
>> from dropping through the hole onto the floor. http://fwd4.me/YKO
>
>Headless dogs, frozen kitty push sticks, if PETA ever shows up there'll be
>hell to pay!
For them. We know about all those fur lockers they keep in NYC.
PETA's execs are as clean as CONgresscritters are moral.
--
It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness;
poverty and wealth have both failed.
-- Kin Hubbard
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:16:07 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:20 -0400, "SBH" <[email protected]> wrote the
>> following:
>>
>>>"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> *Step 5 reveals that you needn't junk your town's streetsweeper.
>>>>> "...any piece of hard steel wire would do. It's important to pick hard
>>>>> metal like the ones used to make springs. "
>>>
>>>Ok, I'm ignorant...what's the wire for?
>>
>> Um, haven't you ever seen a bench dog in use before?!? The wire
>> provides tension between the dog and dog hole to keep a headless dog
>> from dropping through the hole onto the floor. http://fwd4.me/YKO
>
>That's what I assumed but why not just make them with a bigger head? The
>ones I use are a peg with a head on it.
The head will put a large divot in your plane's iron?