I will never look for anything BUT hollowground screwdrivers. When
working on sewing machines, gunes, electronics, you find QUCIKLY how a
tapered screwdriver will slip out of a screw and mess something up.
The worst a hollow ground bit will do is break the screw head or the
bit itself.
On 27 Oct 2003 09:41:15 -0800, [email protected] (Me) wrote:
>Larry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
>> screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>
>Check out the set of German-made wood-handled screwdrivers at Garrett
>Wade...I just picked up a set of them myself last month. They're made
>by a company called SKG. While the slotted screwdrivers don't have
>the hollow ground heads I really wanted, I kept 'em anyway and have
>found them enjoyable to use. The handles are nicely shaped and allow
>you to comfortably put lots of torque on the screws. The tangs go all
>the way through the handle, and the handles have leather washers on
>the top (although I have no idea why they bothered with this). All in
>all, very much worth the $39.95 sale price.
>
>"Larry Barnes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
>> screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
>> Thanks,
>> Larry
>>
>
Try here:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/Store/StoreHome.aspx
When you're working on a $3000 shotgun, a slipped screwddrive can be
very expensive...
Mike
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:32:15 -0800, "Erik Ahrens"
<erikl_nospam_@_nospam_syserco.com> wrote:
>Several years ago I bought a set of screwdrivers at a gun store.
The trouble with gun stores is that there are few hobbies with such a
level of over-hyped bullshit about the "right" tools and finishing
products.
Friend of mine is a black powder shooter (and knows enough about tools
that he ought to know better). he recently bought a set of "gunsmith's
turnscrews". These things are the same cheap dining table forks I had
as a student (rosebush handle and some bendy 18/8 stainless), only
ground with a straight end instead of tines. What a complete pile of
crap, and he paid a load for them too.
I work on shotguns with exactly the same tools I use for everything
else. If they're no good, they're no good for anything - you don't
need magic "gunsmithing" tools. And that's on a H&H Royal Empire.
If the screws are old, they'll have been cut with tapered slots, so
use a screwdriver with a matching taper. If they're modern, they'll be
more parallel, which usually fits a more modern screwdriver. But a
slipping round-ended or chipped screwdriver is a pain on anything, not
just $20K of pheasant popper.
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:16:10 -0600, Lawrence A. Ramsey
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I bought a pint of pure Sperm Oil back in the 60'3 from Brownell's.
>What do you figure it is worth? They outlawed killing sperm whales
>YEARS ago.
Ask a clockmaker. It's the business for hot oil bluing on small parts,
such as hands.
I've a couple of two pint tins of it - war surplus. Originally used
as lubricating oil for aircraft instruments.
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Larry Barnes wrote:
> I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
> screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
> Thanks,
> Larry
Try Garrett-Wade:
http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=100396&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iProductID=100396
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:31:00 -0400, Larry Barnes
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
>screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
You mean for unsticking...
Naah.
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
[email protected] (Me) writes:
>Check out the set of German-made wood-handled screwdrivers at Garrett
>Wade...I just picked up a set of them myself last month. They're made
>by a company called SKG. While the slotted screwdrivers don't have
>the hollow ground heads I really wanted, I kept 'em anyway and have
I don't understand why rubber handled screwdrivers like the Klein products
aren't better than fancy wood handled screwdrivers.
I find that hard plastic or wood handled screw drivers are hard to apply
any torque with.
Brian Elfert
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:44:14 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:32:15 -0800, "Erik Ahrens"
><erikl_nospam_@_nospam_syserco.com> wrote:
>
>>Several years ago I bought a set of screwdrivers at a gun store.
>
>The trouble with gun stores is that there are few hobbies with such a
>level of over-hyped bullshit about the "right" tools and finishing
>products.
>
Radio control modelling is right up there.
Where else can you pay $4 for 4 oz. of white glue, repackaged as
"canopy glue"? <G>
Barry
Garret-Wade of New York. Probably Lee-Valley, Bridge City, etc..
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:31:00 -0400, Larry Barnes
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
>screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
>Thanks,
>Larry
Have you tried Lee Valley or McFeeleys?
"Larry Barnes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
> screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:57:05 -0400, "Bill Rittner" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>They are made by Crown [...] and are
>very good quality tools.
Now there's a sentence you don't see very often.
I bought a brand-new Marples not so long ago, so they're still making
them. But Crown tools are pretty nasty quality IMHE - a bit of
rosewood and some brass in no excuse for poor alloys, poor heat treat
and poor grinding. Maybe their screwdrivers are better, but their
chisels are nasty.
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Larry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
> screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
> Thanks,
> Larry
Check out the set of German-made wood-handled screwdrivers at Garrett
Wade...I just picked up a set of them myself last month. They're made
by a company called SKG. While the slotted screwdrivers don't have
the hollow ground heads I really wanted, I kept 'em anyway and have
found them enjoyable to use. The handles are nicely shaped and allow
you to comfortably put lots of torque on the screws. The tangs go all
the way through the handle, and the handles have leather washers on
the top (although I have no idea why they bothered with this). All in
all, very much worth the $39.95 sale price.
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
> Radio control modelling is right up there.
>
> Where else can you pay $4 for 4 oz. of white glue, repackaged as
> "canopy glue"? <G>
Brass instruments. I don't even remember what all the various valve oils
cost, but you get a tiny little bottle for $3 or something, and you can get
practically a lifetime's supply of the stuff for the same price if you buy
it sold as "Ultra Pure" lamp oil. They're marking it up 10,000%.
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I have the set from Garret Wade. They are made by Crown in England and are
very good quality tools.
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"Larry Barnes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
> screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
The Crown marking knife I bought was lousy. I don't know if they even
attempted to harden the blade. Sure didn't seem like it.
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:57:05 -0400, "Bill Rittner" <[email protected]>
> I bought a brand-new Marples not so long ago, so they're still making
> them. But Crown tools are pretty nasty quality IMHE - a bit of
> rosewood and some brass in no excuse for poor alloys, poor heat treat
> and poor grinding. Maybe their screwdrivers are better, but their
> chisels are nasty.
>
> --
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:19:29 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> scribbled
>B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
>
>> Radio control modelling is right up there.
>>
>> Where else can you pay $4 for 4 oz. of white glue, repackaged as
>> "canopy glue"? <G>
>
>Brass instruments. I don't even remember what all the various valve oils
>cost, but you get a tiny little bottle for $3 or something, and you can get
>practically a lifetime's supply of the stuff for the same price if you buy
>it sold as "Ultra Pure" lamp oil. They're marking it up 10,000%.
My favourite is olive oil sold in pharmacies as some kind of ear drops
in Newfoundland. Two or three bucks for a one or two ounce bottle with
a dropper. When I lived there, I seriously thought about going into
the olive oil importing business, just like Don Corleone. But I
realised there is only so much olive oil that Newfs can stick in their
ears.
Of course, many couldn't figure out why I would cook with ear
medicine.
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" twice
in reply address for real email address
That's why square shaft screw drivers are so handy when you can find
them.
On 28 Oct 2003 17:19:05 GMT, Brian Elfert <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (Me) writes:
>
>>Check out the set of German-made wood-handled screwdrivers at Garrett
>>Wade...I just picked up a set of them myself last month. They're made
>>by a company called SKG. While the slotted screwdrivers don't have
>>the hollow ground heads I really wanted, I kept 'em anyway and have
>
>I don't understand why rubber handled screwdrivers like the Klein products
>aren't better than fancy wood handled screwdrivers.
>
>I find that hard plastic or wood handled screw drivers are hard to apply
>any torque with.
>
>Brian Elfert
I bought a pint of pure Sperm Oil back in the 60'3 from Brownell's.
What do you figure it is worth? They outlawed killing sperm whales
YEARS ago.
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:21:25 -0800, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:19:29 -0500, Silvan
><[email protected]> scribbled
>
>>B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
>>
>>> Radio control modelling is right up there.
>>>
>>> Where else can you pay $4 for 4 oz. of white glue, repackaged as
>>> "canopy glue"? <G>
>>
>>Brass instruments. I don't even remember what all the various valve oils
>>cost, but you get a tiny little bottle for $3 or something, and you can get
>>practically a lifetime's supply of the stuff for the same price if you buy
>>it sold as "Ultra Pure" lamp oil. They're marking it up 10,000%.
>
>My favourite is olive oil sold in pharmacies as some kind of ear drops
>in Newfoundland. Two or three bucks for a one or two ounce bottle with
>a dropper. When I lived there, I seriously thought about going into
>the olive oil importing business, just like Don Corleone. But I
>realised there is only so much olive oil that Newfs can stick in their
>ears.
>
>Of course, many couldn't figure out why I would cook with ear
>medicine.
>
>Luigi
>Replace "no" with "yk" twice
>in reply address for real email address
If youknow anyone who wants it, let me know. I'd sell it.
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 02:00:22 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:16:10 -0600, Lawrence A. Ramsey
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I bought a pint of pure Sperm Oil back in the 60'3 from Brownell's.
>>What do you figure it is worth? They outlawed killing sperm whales
>>YEARS ago.
>
>Ask a clockmaker. It's the business for hot oil bluing on small parts,
>such as hands.
>
>I've a couple of two pint tins of it - war surplus. Originally used
>as lubricating oil for aircraft instruments.
Several years ago I bought a set of screwdrivers at a gun store. These are
the best SD's I've ever used. They have a very slight reverse bevel grind on
the blade, like a dovetail tail, that keeps them in the slot and the corners
are so sharp I would liken them to a good finishing scraper. I can't
remember where they are right now, but when I find them I'll repost.
Erik
"Larry Barnes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have been looking for a source for nice wood handled cabinet maker
> screwdrivers.. Would anyone know of a source.
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
Come on Andy, don't beat around the bush - just come right out and tell us
what you think 8-)
Erik
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:32:15 -0800, "Erik Ahrens"
> <erikl_nospam_@_nospam_syserco.com> wrote:
>
> >Several years ago I bought a set of screwdrivers at a gun store.
>
> The trouble with gun stores is that there are few hobbies with such a
> level of over-hyped bullshit about the "right" tools and finishing
> products.
>
> Friend of mine is a black powder shooter (and knows enough about tools
> that he ought to know better). he recently bought a set of "gunsmith's
> turnscrews". These things are the same cheap dining table forks I had
> as a student (rosebush handle and some bendy 18/8 stainless), only
> ground with a straight end instead of tines. What a complete pile of
> crap, and he paid a load for them too.
>
> I work on shotguns with exactly the same tools I use for everything
> else. If they're no good, they're no good for anything - you don't
> need magic "gunsmithing" tools. And that's on a H&H Royal Empire.
>
> If the screws are old, they'll have been cut with tapered slots, so
> use a screwdriver with a matching taper. If they're modern, they'll be
> more parallel, which usually fits a more modern screwdriver. But a
> slipping round-ended or chipped screwdriver is a pain on anything, not
> just $20K of pheasant popper.
>
> --
> Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods