White Oak price

Kevin Daly wrote:
> >Can someone tell me approximate price of 3" wide 8/4 thick white oak
in
> >> NYC metro area?
>
> The Wood Rack in Branford, CT (just take the Port Jeff Ferry) had
White Oak for
> about $3.50 a bd. ft last time I checked..
>
> >Also can someone explain to me which stock is sold by
> >> LF and which by BF?
> For me, the only time I've seen lumber sold by the LF is when I've
gone to the
> BORG out of desparation. All of the lumber yards deal in bd ft. The
exception
> are those that carry thin stock (1/4", 1/2"). These thicknesses are
typically
> sold in sq. ft.
>
> Kevin Daly
> http://hometown.aol.com/kdaly10475/page1.html


Am I the only one who thinks this place's prices are a little
confusing?

www.bythebays.com/suburban/dried-price.htm

At the bottom it says all prices are "per linear board foot". Doesn't
it have to be one or the other?

FoggyTown

>Can someone tell me approximate price of 3" wide 8/4 thick white oak in
>> NYC metro area?

The Wood Rack in Branford, CT (just take the Port Jeff Ferry) had White Oak for
about $3.50 a bd. ft last time I checked..

>Also can someone explain to me which stock is sold by
>> LF and which by BF?
For me, the only time I've seen lumber sold by the LF is when I've gone to the
BORG out of desparation. All of the lumber yards deal in bd ft. The exception
are those that carry thin stock (1/4", 1/2"). These thicknesses are typically
sold in sq. ft.

Kevin Daly
http://hometown.aol.com/kdaly10475/page1.html

Who is the supplier? I am in Eastern Illinois and will need some birch
in the coming months.

Len
----------------

Silersbrew wrote:
> If you want to drive a few hundred miles to northern Indiana my supplier
> sells red and white rough cut oak, varying widths (from 4 inches to about
> 12 inches), 10 to 14 foot lenths, 4/4 for $2.40 a board foot and 8/4
> for $2.86 a board foot. From what i have seen on here that seems to be
> cheap.
>
> Silersbrew, been lurking for a while and ready to contribute.
> "Kevin Daly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>>Can someone tell me approximate price of 3" wide 8/4 thick white oak in
>>>
>>>>NYC metro area?
>>
>>The Wood Rack in Branford, CT (just take the Port Jeff Ferry) had White
>
> Oak for
>
>>about $3.50 a bd. ft last time I checked..
>>
>>
>>>Also can someone explain to me which stock is sold by
>>>
>>>>LF and which by BF?
>>
>>For me, the only time I've seen lumber sold by the LF is when I've gone to
>
> the
>
>>BORG out of desparation. All of the lumber yards deal in bd ft. The
>
> exception
>
>>are those that carry thin stock (1/4", 1/2"). These thicknesses are
>
> typically
>
>>sold in sq. ft.
>>
>>Kevin Daly
>>http://hometown.aol.com/kdaly10475/page1.html
>>
>>
>
>
>

I need it to build the doors and drawers for my new kitchen cabinets.
Grading is FS I think? Kiln dried. I don't know the term "tree run".
Please explain.

Len Lopez

Duane Bozarth wrote:

> Silersbrew wrote:
>
>>If you want to drive a few hundred miles to northern Indiana my supplier
>>sells red and white rough cut oak, varying widths (from 4 inches to about
>>12 inches), 10 to 14 foot lenths, 4/4 for $2.40 a board foot and 8/4
>>for $2.86 a board foot. From what i have seen on here that seems to be
>>cheap.
>
>
> Graded, tree-run, kiln- or air-dried, ???

Silersbrew wrote:
>
> If you want to drive a few hundred miles to northern Indiana my supplier
> sells red and white rough cut oak, varying widths (from 4 inches to about
> 12 inches), 10 to 14 foot lenths, 4/4 for $2.40 a board foot and 8/4
> for $2.86 a board foot. From what i have seen on here that seems to be
> cheap.

Graded, tree-run, kiln- or air-dried, ???

Leonard Lopez wrote:
>
> ... I don't know the term "tree run". Please explain.

Ungraded, as it comes off the mill (tree)...

Curly Woods wrote:
...
> I believe that they meant "log-run" not tree-run :-) Log Run is all
> lumber sawn from the log. All grades inclusive. Every log will have
> some lower grade lumber, even the best of them. It is usually cheaper
> if you take all of the sawn lumber from any one log, rather than just
> buying the best of the lot.

No, I meant "tree", not "log". The log came from the tree... :)

Guess that's a local idiom depending on who/where one is...around the
small sawmills in VA and TN I was near, "tree run" was their term and I
picked it up from them. (Being a W KS wheat farmer as a kid, it was all
new to me, so whatever I heard there was what I heard first, so as usual
that's what I've retained.)

In those mills (and this was quite some time ago before lumber prices
were nearly so high --I recall one really nice batch of red oak was
$0.10/bd-ft! -- and the premium for graded lumber not so significant)
they simply stacked everything w/ the exception of culling really poor
slabs and ran it through the kiln, then stacked it. For local sale it
was then stacked either bundled or not, the unbundled obviously for the
typical individual purchaser. You could, on occasion still find boards
from the same tree together, but by the time it had been handled so much
it was mixed up enough that wasn't always easy w/o a lot of sorting and
stacking/restacking.

It was another story for the truly exceptional walnut log say, where it
was cut and kept together in its entirety -- but that was the rare
exception, not the rule.

Duane Bozarth wrote:
>
...
> ...was then stacked either bundled or not, the unbundled obviously for the
> typical individual purchaser. You could, on occasion still find boards
> from the same tree together, but by the time it had been handled so much
> it was mixed up enough that wasn't always easy w/o a lot of sorting and
> stacking/restacking.
>
> It was another story for the truly exceptional walnut log say, where it
> was cut and kept together in its entirety -- but that was the rare
> exception, not the rule.

I guess, if there is a difference these two scenarios <might> be it...in
one case, it is "log run" because the boards/slabs all did come from the
same log (and would usually even be kept stacked in order).

In the other case, it's whatever they cut in a particular mill run and
no real attempt to maintain the individual boards together through the
kiln, etc.

If you want to drive a few hundred miles to northern Indiana my supplier
sells red and white rough cut oak, varying widths (from 4 inches to about
12 inches), 10 to 14 foot lenths, 4/4 for $2.40 a board foot and 8/4
for $2.86 a board foot. From what i have seen on here that seems to be
cheap.

Silersbrew, been lurking for a while and ready to contribute.
"Kevin Daly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Can someone tell me approximate price of 3" wide 8/4 thick white oak in
> >> NYC metro area?
>
> The Wood Rack in Branford, CT (just take the Port Jeff Ferry) had White
Oak for
> about $3.50 a bd. ft last time I checked..
>
> >Also can someone explain to me which stock is sold by
> >> LF and which by BF?
> For me, the only time I've seen lumber sold by the LF is when I've gone to
the
> BORG out of desparation. All of the lumber yards deal in bd ft. The
exception
> are those that carry thin stock (1/4", 1/2"). These thicknesses are
typically
> sold in sq. ft.
>
> Kevin Daly
> http://hometown.aol.com/kdaly10475/page1.html
>
>

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...

> Now what exactly do you mean by "tree-run" been woodworking for years, but
> not up to date with all terminology
>
>
> Silersbrew

I believe that they meant "log-run" not tree-run :-) Log Run is all
lumber sawn from the log. All grades inclusive. Every log will have
some lower grade lumber, even the best of them. It is usually cheaper
if you take all of the sawn lumber from any one log, rather than just
buying the best of the lot.

Leonard Lopez wrote:
> Who is the supplier? I am in Eastern Illinois and will need some birch
> in the coming months.
>
> Len
> ----------------
>
> Silersbrew wrote:
>
[snip]
You might want to look at Hartzell Lumber
http://www.hartzellwoodstock.bigstep.com/ . White birch (select) is
under $2 a foot with #1 and #2 even less. Quality is excellent. Even
with shipping you may well come out ahead.
mahalo,
jo4hn

Advantage Lumber, Rob Pelc place, shipped wood from N.Y. to southern
Calif and the price including S&H was half what the local hardwood
store charges. Now he has minimum amount that excludes small buys.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:21:49 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:

>Leonard Lopez wrote:
>> Who is the supplier? I am in Eastern Illinois and will need some birch
>> in the coming months.
>>
>> Len
>> ----------------
>>
>> Silersbrew wrote:
>>
>[snip]
>You might want to look at Hartzell Lumber
>http://www.hartzellwoodstock.bigstep.com/ . White birch (select) is
>under $2 a foot with #1 and #2 even less. Quality is excellent. Even
>with shipping you may well come out ahead.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:30:09 -0600, Duane Bozarth
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Duane Bozarth wrote:
>>
>...
>> ...was then stacked either bundled or not, the unbundled obviously for the
>> typical individual purchaser. You could, on occasion still find boards
>> from the same tree together, but by the time it had been handled so much
>> it was mixed up enough that wasn't always easy w/o a lot of sorting and
>> stacking/restacking.
>>
>> It was another story for the truly exceptional walnut log say, where it
>> was cut and kept together in its entirety -- but that was the rare
>> exception, not the rule.
>
>I guess, if there is a difference these two scenarios <might> be it...in
>one case, it is "log run" because the boards/slabs all did come from the
>same log (and would usually even be kept stacked in order).
>
>In the other case, it's whatever they cut in a particular mill run and
>no real attempt to maintain the individual boards together through the
>kiln, etc.


that's the difference between log run and mill run.

Not sure on the grading as I am not real familiar with the grading process.
I know it is Kiln dried. Have been using it for about 8 years with very
little problems. Have never had any problem with it twisting, warping or
bowing.

Now what exactly do you mean by "tree-run" been woodworking for years, but
not up to date with all terminology


Silersbrew
"Duane Bozarth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Silersbrew wrote:
> >
> > If you want to drive a few hundred miles to northern Indiana my supplier
> > sells red and white rough cut oak, varying widths (from 4 inches to
about
> > 12 inches), 10 to 14 foot lenths, 4/4 for $2.40 a board foot and
8/4
> > for $2.86 a board foot. From what i have seen on here that seems to be
> > cheap.
>
> Graded, tree-run, kiln- or air-dried, ???

Supprisingly enough it is a local lumber yard, They are Amish owned and
operated. Located north of Fort Wayne IN. Would have to check to see about
Birch. They get there rough cut in and work the wood into boards and
trim in their mill room. Then sell the product at high prices to make their
profit. They sell the rough cut material at basically their cost.

Although I have wondered if I should keep this source a secret lol.


Silersbrew

"Leonard Lopez" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who is the supplier? I am in Eastern Illinois and will need some birch
> in the coming months.
>
> Len
> ----------------
>
> Silersbrew wrote:
> > If you want to drive a few hundred miles to northern Indiana my supplier
> > sells red and white rough cut oak, varying widths (from 4 inches to
about
> > 12 inches), 10 to 14 foot lenths, 4/4 for $2.40 a board foot and
8/4
> > for $2.86 a board foot. From what i have seen on here that seems to be
> > cheap.
> >
> > Silersbrew, been lurking for a while and ready to contribute.
> > "Kevin Daly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>>Can someone tell me approximate price of 3" wide 8/4 thick white oak in
> >>>
> >>>>NYC metro area?
> >>
> >>The Wood Rack in Branford, CT (just take the Port Jeff Ferry) had White
> >
> > Oak for
> >
> >>about $3.50 a bd. ft last time I checked..
> >>
> >>
> >>>Also can someone explain to me which stock is sold by
> >>>
> >>>>LF and which by BF?
> >>
> >>For me, the only time I've seen lumber sold by the LF is when I've gone
to
> >
> > the
> >
> >>BORG out of desparation. All of the lumber yards deal in bd ft. The
> >
> > exception
> >
> >>are those that carry thin stock (1/4", 1/2"). These thicknesses are
> >
> > typically
> >
> >>sold in sq. ft.
> >>
> >>Kevin Daly
> >>http://hometown.aol.com/kdaly10475/page1.html
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>