Greetings All,
I'm looking for a small cordless drill mainly for drilling pilot holes and
driving screws. My 18v DeWalt is too large for small work and I keep that
for grunt work. I notice that Nahm has a small P-C and it doesn't look bad.
But since I already have the small Bosch 10.8v Litheon right angle driver,
I'd like to get the companion Pocket Driver (I've noticed that Bosch sells
some of their battery powered tools without the battery and charger, in case
you already have them). My concern is whether the speed is high enough for
drilling. My right angle driver speed is a little slow for the kind of
drilling I plan on doing. Anyone have a Pocket Driver out there? Does it
work as a drill? If all else fails, I'll go with the P-C and just collect
another charger, battery, etc.... Many thanks as always, Mark
I've got an old Stanly push drill that does those chores for me.
Batteries are not a problem, and when sharp, the bits jump right into
the wood.
Old Guy
On Apr 4, 8:53=A0pm, "mark" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Greetings All,
> =A0I'm looking for a small cordless drill mainly for drilling pilot holes =
and
> driving screws. =A0My 18v DeWalt is too large for small work and I keep th=
at
> for grunt work. =A0I notice that Nahm has a small P-C and it doesn't look =
bad.
> But since I already have the small Bosch 10.8v Litheon right angle driver,=
> I'd like to get the companion Pocket Driver (I've noticed that Bosch sells=
> some of their battery powered tools without the battery and charger, in ca=
se
> you already have them). =A0My concern is whether the speed is high enough =
for
> drilling. =A0My right angle driver speed is a little slow for the kind of
> drilling I plan on doing. Anyone have a Pocket Driver out there? Does it
> work as a drill? If all else fails, I'll go with the P-C and just collect
> another charger, battery, etc.... =A0Many thanks as always, Mark
RE: Subject
Years ago, there was a display of small hand tools developed for the
avaiation indusdtry at a boat show.
From memory, think there was a small drill in the package.
Don't have a clue if they are still in business or how to find them,
but might want to start with your local airport for some help in
finding a source.
Since it is avaiation based, don't expect low cost, but will be
quality.
Have fun.
Lew
"mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings All,
> I'm looking for a small cordless drill mainly for drilling pilot holes and
> driving screws. My 18v DeWalt is too large for small work and I keep that
> for grunt work. I notice that Nahm has a small P-C and it doesn't look
> bad. But since I already have the small Bosch 10.8v Litheon right angle
> driver, I'd like to get the companion Pocket Driver (I've noticed that
> Bosch sells some of their battery powered tools without the battery and
> charger, in case you already have them). My concern is whether the speed
> is high enough for drilling. My right angle driver speed is a little slow
> for the kind of drilling I plan on doing. Anyone have a Pocket Driver out
> there? Does it work as a drill? If all else fails, I'll go with the P-C
> and just collect another charger, battery, etc.... Many thanks as always,
> Mark
>
There are several choices but the small pocket drivers typically do not have
a regular drill bit chuck and you really need a higher speed for regular
drilling. Impact drivers are a nice complement to a set of drills but are
not great for putting screws in with much finesse. I would steer clear of a
PC drill. At one time they were OK, Norm uses them because PC sponsors his
show. Better choices would be, DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee, or Bosch, in no
particular order. Additionally I would look for something in the 9.6-12
volt range.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> mark wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>> I'm looking for a small cordless drill mainly for drilling pilot
>> holes and driving screws. My 18v DeWalt is too large for small work
>> and I keep that for grunt work. I notice that Nahm has a small P-C
>> and it doesn't look bad. But since I already have the small Bosch
>> 10.8v Litheon right angle driver, I'd like to get the companion
>> Pocket Driver (I've noticed that Bosch sells some of their battery
>> powered tools without the battery and charger, in case you already
>> have them). My concern is whether the speed is high enough for
>> drilling. My right angle driver speed is a little slow for the kind
>> of drilling I plan on doing. Anyone have a Pocket Driver out there?
>> Does it work as a drill? If all else fails, I'll go with the P-C and
>> just collect another charger, battery, etc.... Many thanks as
>> always, Mark
>
> Since nobody has mentioned it, do you have an impact driver now (not a
> hammer drill)? If not, you might want to look at them carefully.
> They tend to be smaller than drills, and turn at higher RPM under no
> load (they'll be effectively under "no load" turning a pilot drill)
> and for driving screws they're marvelous as long as you pay attention
> to what you're doing. You can get a chuck that fits right into the
> 1/4" hex mount or you can get drill bits that are already hex-mounted
> or you can get adapters that take regular hex bits. For pilot holes
> you can get hex mount drill/countersink assemblies.
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
>
I never used an impact driver. I thought it was the same as a hammer drill.
I know Bosch sells one, and I already have the batteries and charger. Time
to check it out. Thanks, John
"mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
> I never used an impact driver. I thought it was the same as a hammer
> drill. I know Bosch sells one, and I already have the batteries and
> charger. Time to check it out. Thanks, John
>
You will want to be very careful with an impact driver. You can snap a #8
square drive screw very easily in hard woods.
On Apr 5, 9:36 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Greetings All,
> > I'm looking for a small cordless drill mainly for drilling pilot holes and
> > driving screws. My 18v DeWalt is too large for small work and I keep that
> > for grunt work. I notice that Nahm has a small P-C and it doesn't look
> > bad. But since I already have the small Bosch 10.8v Litheon right angle
> > driver, I'd like to get the companion Pocket Driver (I've noticed that
> > Bosch sells some of their battery powered tools without the battery and
> > charger, in case you already have them). My concern is whether the speed
> > is high enough for drilling. My right angle driver speed is a little slow
> > for the kind of drilling I plan on doing. Anyone have a Pocket Driver out
> > there? Does it work as a drill? If all else fails, I'll go with the P-C
> > and just collect another charger, battery, etc.... Many thanks as always,
> > Mark
>
> There are several choices but the small pocket drivers typically do not have
> a regular drill bit chuck and you really need a higher speed for regular
> drilling. Impact drivers are a nice complement to a set of drills but are
> not great for putting screws in with much finesse. I would steer clear of a
> PC drill. At one time they were OK, Norm uses them because PC sponsors his
> show. Better choices would be, DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee, or Bosch, in no
> particular order. Additionally I would look for something in the 9.6-12
> volt range.
At the risk of getting flamed look at the Black and Decker Firestorm
FS1202D or a similar model. Comes in a bright orange, has the wrong
name, its only 12V, the charger is a two piece design. BUT it has a
keyless chuck that is removable with just a click to reveal a hex
driver socket, so drill and drive happens very quickly. It has plenty
of power to drill and then driver pocket hole screws into oak and
comes with two batteries. Its lighter than my 18V drill, and well
balanced. Oh and its two speed, reversible and variable speed. And
when the batteries die a new one costs less than a rebuild.
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > I've got an old Stanly push drill that does those chores for me.
> Those are great! I've got a couple of Goodell-Pratt models as well as a
> Stanley. Quickest screw hole drills I've got.
And if he does want to go electric, Lee Valley has a flex drive for drilling
in tight places.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32298&cat=1,43411,43417
"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> ">
>> There are several choices but the small pocket drivers typically do not
>> have a regular drill bit chuck and you really need a higher speed for
>> regular drilling. Impact drivers are a nice complement to a set of
>> drills but are not great for putting screws in with much finesse. I
>> would steer clear of a PC drill. At one time they were OK, Norm uses
>> them because PC sponsors his show. Better choices would be, DeWalt,
>> Makita, Milwaukee, or Bosch, in no particular order. Additionally I
>> would look for something in the 9.6-12 volt range.
> 9.6 v Dewalt drill/driver works great for me, have two on hand so don't
> need to change out tip. Bought em rebuilt, $75 each, batt and all.
>
Not a bad idea, Rick. Heading to Amazon now to look around.
Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
> At the risk of getting flamed look at the Black and Decker Firestorm
> FS1202D or a similar model. Comes in a bright orange, has the wrong
> name, its only 12V, the charger is a two piece design. BUT it has a
> keyless chuck that is removable with just a click to reveal a hex
> driver socket, so drill and drive happens very quickly. It has plenty
> of power to drill and then driver pocket hole screws into oak and
> comes with two batteries. Its lighter than my 18V drill, and well
> balanced. Oh and its two speed, reversible and variable speed. And
> when the batteries die a new one costs less than a rebuild.
But the Cachet, what about the Cachet? :)
">
> There are several choices but the small pocket drivers typically do not
> have a regular drill bit chuck and you really need a higher speed for
> regular drilling. Impact drivers are a nice complement to a set of drills
> but are not great for putting screws in with much finesse. I would steer
> clear of a PC drill. At one time they were OK, Norm uses them because PC
> sponsors his show. Better choices would be, DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee, or
> Bosch, in no particular order. Additionally I would look for something in
> the 9.6-12 volt range.
9.6 v Dewalt drill/driver works great for me, have two on hand so don't
need to change out tip. Bought em rebuilt, $75 each, batt and all.
mark wrote:
> Greetings All,
> I'm looking for a small cordless drill mainly for drilling pilot
> holes and driving screws. My 18v DeWalt is too large for small work
> and I keep that for grunt work. I notice that Nahm has a small P-C
> and it doesn't look bad. But since I already have the small Bosch
> 10.8v Litheon right angle driver, I'd like to get the companion
> Pocket Driver (I've noticed that Bosch sells some of their battery
> powered tools without the battery and charger, in case you already
> have them). My concern is whether the speed is high enough for
> drilling. My right angle driver speed is a little slow for the kind
> of drilling I plan on doing. Anyone have a Pocket Driver out there?
> Does it work as a drill? If all else fails, I'll go with the P-C and
> just collect another charger, battery, etc.... Many thanks as
> always, Mark
Since nobody has mentioned it, do you have an impact driver now (not a
hammer drill)? If not, you might want to look at them carefully.
They tend to be smaller than drills, and turn at higher RPM under no
load (they'll be effectively under "no load" turning a pilot drill)
and for driving screws they're marvelous as long as you pay attention
to what you're doing. You can get a chuck that fits right into the
1/4" hex mount or you can get drill bits that are already hex-mounted
or you can get adapters that take regular hex bits. For pilot holes
you can get hex mount drill/countersink assemblies.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>> I never used an impact driver. I thought it was the same as a hammer
>> drill. I know Bosch sells one, and I already have the batteries and
>> charger. Time to check it out. Thanks, John
>>
>
> You will want to be very careful with an impact driver. You can snap a #8
> square drive screw very easily in hard woods.
>
That's why I like my Milwaukie. It's got an adjustable clutch just like most
cordless drills.
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:56:51 -0700, Old Guy wrote:
> I've got an old Stanly push drill that does those chores for me.
>
> Batteries are not a problem, and when sharp, the bits jump right into
> the wood.
>
Those are great! I've got a couple of Goodell-Pratt models as well as a
Stanley. Quickest screw hole drills I've got.
But then I'm an "old guy" too :-).
"mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> mark wrote:
>>> Greetings All,
>>> I'm looking for a small cordless drill mainly for drilling pilot
>>> holes and driving screws. My 18v DeWalt is too large for small work
>>> and I keep that for grunt work. I notice that Nahm has a small P-C
>>> and it doesn't look bad. But since I already have the small Bosch
>>> 10.8v Litheon right angle driver, I'd like to get the companion
>>> Pocket Driver (I've noticed that Bosch sells some of their battery
>>> powered tools without the battery and charger, in case you already
>>> have them). My concern is whether the speed is high enough for
>>> drilling. My right angle driver speed is a little slow for the kind
>>> of drilling I plan on doing. Anyone have a Pocket Driver out there?
>>> Does it work as a drill? If all else fails, I'll go with the P-C and
>>> just collect another charger, battery, etc.... Many thanks as
>>> always, Mark
>>
>> Since nobody has mentioned it, do you have an impact driver now (not a
>> hammer drill)? If not, you might want to look at them carefully.
>> They tend to be smaller than drills, and turn at higher RPM under no
>> load (they'll be effectively under "no load" turning a pilot drill)
>> and for driving screws they're marvelous as long as you pay attention
>> to what you're doing. You can get a chuck that fits right into the
>> 1/4" hex mount or you can get drill bits that are already hex-mounted
>> or you can get adapters that take regular hex bits. For pilot holes
>> you can get hex mount drill/countersink assemblies.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> --John
>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>>
>>
> I never used an impact driver. I thought it was the same as a hammer
> drill. I know Bosch sells one, and I already have the batteries and
> charger. Time to check it out. Thanks, John
Impact drivers are different that a hammer drill in the sense that the
impact motion is pure rotary, and not linear.
I bought a 'small' impact driver a few weeks ago to be used to drive screws,
but I was looking for one that had a typical clutch with settings, rather
than the typical impact driver that just relies on how long you pull the
trigger.
I found a nice 12V Milwaulkie ($125 at the local Borg), that fits the hand
nicely, the battery (comes with two and the charger) is a cylinder type that
fits in the handle so there's no big square heavy battery at the end of the
handle.
The only small downside to the battery fitting in the handle, is that you
can't stand it upright on the bench when you set it down.
Impact drivers come with a 1/4" hex quick-release chuck but you should be
able to find small drills made to fit such a chuck.
>
>