This was once a lively and useful forum. Lately, as we clearly see,
we've been inundated with lots of spam and other dreck and destructive
postings.
This suggests a two part question:
1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
relevant woodworking messages?
2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
Thanks.
Joel
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> This was once a lively and useful forum.
This is not a forum. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
On Apr 20, 1:44=A0am, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> Marc Britten wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> This was once a lively and useful forum.
>
> > This is not a forum. =A0It's a Usenet newsgroup.
>
> =A0 In response to the OP's question, my recommendation is a full-scale ai=
r
> strike against the spammer's homes and places of business.
And then people wonder why there is so little peace on the planet.
Okay... 6 slightly used A-10 Warthogs... but that's it.
> But then, some might consider that being a little soft on spammers.
A little Basra Road Blues builds character.
In article <[email protected]>, Markem
<markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
Neither does Google.
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In article <[email protected]>, Upscale
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > It doesn't work nearly as well any more. First, it is harder to track down
> > posters and, second, some of the ISPs that host most of the offenders are
> > not responsive. In the current wave of SPAM, nearly all comes from Google
> > but they seem unwilling to do anything about it.
>
> The only possible solution I can think of is for a whole bunch of us to
> flood the poster's "contact us" email addresses, telling them to buzz off
> from rec.woodworking. One of these days when I'm bored enough, I'll gather a
> master list of those websites and post them so everybody can cut and paste
> them in one shot for a mass emailing. Don't know if it will work, but it's
> worth a shot.
Just frigging learn how to filter.
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In article <[email protected]>, Upscale
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > They have botnets on their side. You can't win that war...
>
> I guess then, we need to put some honeynets into action and track them down.
Do let us know how that works out for you, but please don't do it here.
Try one of the alt.* groups.
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In article <[email protected]>, Doug Miller
<[email protected]> wrote:
> So just killfile everything that comes through Google. POOF! no spam.
It works wonderfully. Sure, I lose a few messages I may have wanted to
read, but if enough people realize fewer and fewer folks are no longer
reading their posts then hopefully they'll get a real newsreader.
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"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > 2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
> > moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
> >
> Only a lonely masochist with far too much time on their hands.
Isn't "lonely masochist" the standard description for a control freak?
On Apr 21, 10:18 pm, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <MibPj.5132$i45.1341@trndny01>, Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
> >> In article <[email protected]>, Markem
> >> <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
> >>> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
>
> >> Neither does Google.
>
> >Unless you represent the Chinese government ...
>
> So I guess that means you should complain to the Clintons.
>
Or the Bushs or the Reagans.
Kotowing to the Chinese has been a bipartisan issue for
decades.
Remember these events before and after the Clinton
adminstration?
Tiananmen Square?
The EP-3 and crew seized after making an
emergency landing at Hainan Island?
Yet at no point was China's trading status as a
'Most favored nation' or whatever it is called today,
in any danger.
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"Marc Britten" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]=20
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>=20
>> This was once a lively and useful forum.
>=20
> This is not a forum. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
Sure it's a forum (a public facility to meet for open=20
discussion ). It's just not a Google Group, web site,=20
or bulletin board. Usenet groups are forums of the=20
Usenet News variety. Long may they reign!
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:MhyOj.1416$Ks1.814@trnddc01...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
>> relevant woodworking messages?
>
> NO........
>
>> 2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
>> moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
>
>
> NO........
>
>
> Lew
Geez, Lew, you could have let him down gently.
B.
Did you write the complaints in English? Of course, they will not respond
because they don't understand English.
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "Tiro
> Verus"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>>> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, Markem
>>
>>>>>> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
>>>>>> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
>>
>>>>> Neither does Google.
>>
>>>> Unless you represent the Chinese government ...
>>
>>Exactly.
>>
>>There's no one way to killfile everything from .cn either
>>as many are registered in .hk and other locales.
>>
> So just killfile everything that comes through Google. POOF! no spam.
>
> --
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>
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Marc Britten wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> This was once a lively and useful forum.
>
> This is not a forum. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
In response to the OP's question, my recommendation is a full-scale air
strike against the spammer's homes and places of business.
But then, some might consider that being a little soft on spammers.
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"Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> It doesn't work nearly as well any more. First, it is harder to track down
> posters and, second, some of the ISPs that host most of the offenders are
> not responsive. In the current wave of SPAM, nearly all comes from Google
> but they seem unwilling to do anything about it.
The only possible solution I can think of is for a whole bunch of us to
flood the poster's "contact us" email addresses, telling them to buzz off
from rec.woodworking. One of these days when I'm bored enough, I'll gather a
master list of those websites and post them so everybody can cut and paste
them in one shot for a mass emailing. Don't know if it will work, but it's
worth a shot.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:44:30 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Marc Britten wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> This was once a lively and useful forum.
>>
>> This is not a forum. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
>
> In response to the OP's question, my recommendation is a full-scale air
>strike against the spammer's homes and places of business.
>
>But then, some might consider that being a little soft on spammers.
I would suggest a tactical nuclear strikes upon Google servers.
Mark
On 4/21/08 2:15 PMApr 21, "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dusty wrote:
>>
>>
>> tha bad news is I havent seen any old timers in a very long time on any
>> group.
>
> I've been on Usenet since 1994...
>
> Is that old?
No, but it is a good start.
On 4/21/08 11:28 AMApr 21, "Dusty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> At one time there was a way, on one of the tech groups the old timers had a
> way of tracking the junk posts back to their origins and then they posted
> that posters isp address and other information on how to make complaints.
> The poster always dissapeared after that.
It doesn't work nearly as well any more. First, it is harder to track down
posters and, second, some of the ISPs that host most of the offenders are
not responsive. In the current wave of SPAM, nearly all comes from Google
but they seem unwilling to do anything about it.
In article <[email protected]>, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The only possible solution I can think of is for a whole bunch of us to
>flood the poster's "contact us" email addresses, telling them to buzz off
>from rec.woodworking.
If that's the only solution you can think of, then perhaps you should try a
solution that a lot of other people have thought of: killfile Google Groups.
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"Marc Britten" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> This was once a lively and useful forum.
>
> This is not a forum. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
Ooooh you are pedantic!(:-)
But I most heartily agree with you, it irritates me to have newsgroups
referred to as forums!
Lobby Dosser wrote:
> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, Markem
>> <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
>>> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
>>
>> Neither does Google.
>>
>
> Unless you represent the Chinese government ...
Another example of Google's "don't be evil" corporate policy.
Yeah, I'm convinced.
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Robert Haar wrote:
> On 4/21/08 11:28 AMApr 21, "Dusty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> At one time there was a way, on one of the tech groups the old timers had
>> a way of tracking the junk posts back to their origins and then they
>> posted that posters isp address and other information on how to make
>> complaints. The poster always dissapeared after that.
>
> It doesn't work nearly as well any more. First, it is harder to track down
> posters and, second, some of the ISPs that host most of the offenders are
> not responsive. In the current wave of SPAM, nearly all comes from Google
> but they seem unwilling to do anything about it.
Is this part of that "don't be evil" corporate policy?
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This was once a lively and useful forum. Lately, as we clearly see,
> we've been inundated with lots of spam and other dreck and destructive
> postings.
>
> This suggests a two part question:
>
> 1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
> relevant woodworking messages?
>
> 2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
> moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joel
Your realize that if this group was moderated that your post probably would
be ejected. I would rather see you work a little harder to filter out what
YOU don't want to see than all of us be restricted to what we feel is OK to
post or not to post.
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
> relevant woodworking messages?
NO........
> 2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who
> would
> moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
NO........
Lew
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Markem
> <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
>> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
>
> Neither does Google.
>
Unless you represent the Chinese government ...
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This was once a lively and useful forum. Lately, as we clearly see,
> we've been inundated with lots of spam and other dreck and destructive
> postings.
>
> This suggests a two part question:
>
> 1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
> relevant woodworking messages?
>
If you want to scare almost everybody away.
> 2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
> moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
>
Only a lonely masochist with far too much time on their hands.
In article <MibPj.5132$i45.1341@trndny01>, Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, Markem
>> <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
>>> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
>>
>> Neither does Google.
>>
>
>Unless you represent the Chinese government ...
So I guess that means you should complain to the Clintons.
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[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>This was once a lively and useful forum. Lately, as we clearly see,
>>we've been inundated with lots of spam and other dreck and destructive
>>postings.
>
> It's cyclical.
>
>>This suggests a two part question:
>>
>>1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
>>relevant woodworking messages?
>
> According to whose criteria?
>
>>2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
>>moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
>
> I nominate you.
>
> It always amuses me how the calls for moderation dry up when the
> callers face the reality that they may have to be the moderators.
>
> Except for Vito. But he's an idiot.
Is he still around?!
> Just look at the result.
Did he get something going?
>
>
At one time there was a way, on one of the tech groups the old timers had a
way of tracking the junk posts back to their origins and then they posted
that posters isp address and other information on how to make complaints.
The poster always dissapeared after that.
tha bad news is I havent seen any old timers in a very long time on any
group.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> It doesn't work nearly as well any more. First, it is
>> harder to track down posters and, second, some of the ISPs
>> that host most of the offenders are not responsive. In the
>> current wave of SPAM, nearly all comes from Google but
>> they seem unwilling to do anything about it.
>
> The only possible solution I can think of is for a whole
> bunch of us to flood the poster's "contact us" email
> addresses, telling them to buzz off from rec.woodworking.
> One of these days when I'm bored enough, I'll gather a
> master list of those websites and post them so everybody
> can cut and paste them in one shot for a mass emailing.
> Don't know if it will work, but it's worth a shot.
>
They have botnets on their side. You can't win that war...
Larry
In article <[email protected]>, "Tiro Verus"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>>>> In article <[email protected]>, Markem
>
>>>>> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
>>>>> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
>
>>>> Neither does Google.
>
>>> Unless you represent the Chinese government ...
>
>Exactly.
>
>There's no one way to killfile everything from .cn either
>as many are registered in .hk and other locales.
>
So just killfile everything that comes through Google. POOF! no spam.
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On Apr 21, 10:39 pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
>
>
> ...
>
> > The only possible solution I can think of is for a whole
> > bunch of us to flood the poster's "contact us" email
> > addresses, telling them to buzz off from rec.woodworking.
> > One of these days when I'm bored enough, I'll gather a
> > master list of those websites and post them so everybody
> > can cut and paste them in one shot for a mass emailing.
> > Don't know if it will work, but it's worth a shot.
>
> They have botnets on their side. You can't win that war...
>
It would be trivial for ISPs to detect the bots on infected PCs
on their networks and cut them off. The reason they don't, is
that they would be cutting off paying customers.
Back in the days before there were ISPs on the internet, system
administrators acted responsibly to curb abuse issues and
had the support of their management as the abuse reflected
badly on the reputation of the online entity, (typically a
corporation,
university, or government agency). Now termination of an abuser
costs the online entity revenue and so typically an ISP abuse
department, even if they have one, is forbidden to terminate
customers unless they don't pay.
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> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, Markem
>>>> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
>>>> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
>>> Neither does Google.
>> Unless you represent the Chinese government ...
Exactly.
There's no one way to killfile everything from .cn either
as many are registered in .hk and other locales.
"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> They have botnets on their side. You can't win that war...
I guess then, we need to put some honeynets into action and track them down.
On Apr 20, 7:41=A0am, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
> >relevant woodworking messages?
>
> Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
>
> Google "Vito Kuhn woodworking"...
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> **http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html=A0**
> ---------------------------------------------
We'd get a head start if we eliminated all the posts BITCHING ABOUT
FARKING SPAMMMM!!!!!!!!
On Apr 21, 11:17 pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > It doesn't work nearly as well any more. First, it is harder to track down
> > posters and, second, some of the ISPs that host most of the offenders are
> > not responsive. In the current wave of SPAM, nearly all comes from Google
> > but they seem unwilling to do anything about it.
>
> The only possible solution I can think of is for a whole bunch of us to
> flood the poster's "contact us" email addresses, telling them to buzz off
> from rec.woodworking. One of these days when I'm bored enough, I'll gather a
> master list of those websites and post them so everybody can cut and paste
> them in one shot for a mass emailing. Don't know if it will work, but it's
> worth a shot.
Do a google search on 'Usenet Death Penalty'.
--
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[email protected] wrote:
> This was once a lively and useful forum. Lately, as we clearly see,
> we've been inundated with lots of spam and other dreck and destructive
> postings.
>
> This suggests a two part question:
>
> 1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
> relevant woodworking messages?
Possible, but takes a considerable effort to turn a usenet unmoderated
group into a moderated one. So, the answer is effectively Lew's...
> 2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
> moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
The answer to 1) makes 2) moot...
It is usenet after all with all that means both good and bad. Attacks
tend to come and go. Best can suggest is to get a newsreader that
supports filters and set a few -- you can cut out most with a relative
few...
--
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:25:12 -0400, Robert Haar <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 4/21/08 11:28 AMApr 21, "Dusty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> At one time there was a way, on one of the tech groups the old timers had a
>> way of tracking the junk posts back to their origins and then they posted
>> that posters isp address and other information on how to make complaints.
>> The poster always dissapeared after that.
>
>It doesn't work nearly as well any more. First, it is harder to track down
>posters and, second, some of the ISPs that host most of the offenders are
>not responsive. In the current wave of SPAM, nearly all comes from Google
>but they seem unwilling to do anything about it.
You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, "Upscale"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The only possible solution I can think of is for a whole bunch of us to
>>flood the poster's "contact us" email addresses, telling them to buzz off
>>from rec.woodworking.
>
> If that's the only solution you can think of, then perhaps you should try
> a solution that a lot of other people have thought of: killfile Google
> Groups.
>
Yep, finally did that tonight. The filter rule set was just getting too
big. Just killing the source of the problem is more effective,
unfortunately there's probably some collateral damage but more than likely
I will see what those posters generated by the quotes from the non-google
folks.
--
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Upscale wrote:
>
> "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > 2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
>> > moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
>> >
>> Only a lonely masochist with far too much time on their hands.
>
> Isn't "lonely masochist" the standard description for a control freak?
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! ... and that is precisely why
moderating a group like this won't work. Anybody who would actually sign up
for such a job should not be let anywhere near the job
--
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"Robert Haar" wrote
> On 4/21/08 2:15 PMApr 21, "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dusty wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> tha bad news is I havent seen any old timers in a very long time on any
>>> group.
>>
>> I've been on Usenet since 1994...
>>
>> Is that old?
>
> No, but it is a good start.
>
The problem with old timers is that they all die off eventually.
<feeling tinges of mortality>
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>This was once a lively and useful forum. Lately, as we clearly see,
>we've been inundated with lots of spam and other dreck and destructive
>postings.
It's cyclical.
>This suggests a two part question:
>
>1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
>relevant woodworking messages?
According to whose criteria?
>2) If so, is there some capable and generous soul out there who would
>moderate and restore and keep this forum dedicated to woodworking?
I nominate you.
It always amuses me how the calls for moderation dry up when the
callers face the reality that they may have to be the moderators.
Except for Vito. But he's an idiot. Just look at the result.
[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <MibPj.5132$i45.1341@trndny01>, Lobby Dosser
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>, Markem
>>> <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can get the posters IP address from the headers Google post.
>>>> However the Chinese ISP's do not respond about complaints.
>>>
>>> Neither does Google.
>>>
>>
>>Unless you represent the Chinese government ...
>
> So I guess that means you should complain to the Clintons.
>
Hey, that might work!
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>1) Is it possible for this forum to be moderated and have only
>relevant woodworking messages?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Google "Vito Kuhn woodworking"...
---------------------------------------------
** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
---------------------------------------------
[email protected] wrote:
> This was once a lively and useful forum. Lately, as we clearly see,
> we've been inundated with lots of spam and other dreck and destructive
> postings.
It is still a lively and useful forum. You need to learn how to filter instead
of expect others to do it for you. Frankly, I seldom see any spam in Usenet,
although tons of it are out there. It just never makes it to my screen.
I thank message rules and the NewsProxy add-on to Outlook Express for the
improvement.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
In article <[email protected]>,
alan holmes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Marc Britten" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:42:47 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> This was once a lively and useful forum.
>>
>> This is not a forum. It's a Usenet newsgroup.
>
>Ooooh you are pedantic!(:-)
>
>But I most heartily agree with you, it irritates me to have newsgroups
>referred to as forums!
"forum" _is_ a proper descriptive term for a USENET newsgroup.