Help!
I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Radial Arm Saw (model 113.199450), on
which the motor just burned out. Sears (noth the website and the phone
help people) says they can no longer get that motor because it's not
made anymore. The motor part # was 63608. Neither can I get parts for
it. At this point, the answer I get from Sears is to just pop on over
to my local Sears store & buy a new saw. However, that's about $600
more than I was hoping to spend.
Are there any other sources in the world for replacement motors? I've
googled the model & part numbers ti no avail. I was hoping someone
here knew of another electric motor source.
I've surfed previous messges in this group, and a recurring theme
mentions a centrifugal switch that's supposed to cut out the starting
circuit. But neither the Sears psrts listing nor the motor itself
reveals anything that looks like a switch. Am I somehow missing it?
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 12:07:55 PM UTC-5, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> On 1/6/2019 4:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> > I'm just trying to figure out how to wire it up with a regular plug to plug it in just three wires and I don't know what's but what's what
>
> Two ways to approach this problem:
>
> 1) Watch Clark Griswold in Christmas Vacation. Pay particular attention
> to the garage scene where he's connecting the wiring.
>
> if that doesn't work. . .
>
> 2) learn how to express yourself in the written word. Your post makes
> as much sense as "I have a house, what kind of dog did I have?"
...and he posted in a 11 year old thread about a 20 year old burnt out motor.
I wonder why he wants to wire up a 31 year old burnt out motor. ;-)
Frank Rowe wrote:
> Help!
>
> I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Radial Arm Saw (model 113.199450), on
> which the motor just burned out. Sears (noth the website and the phone
> help people) says they can no longer get that motor because it's not
> made anymore. The motor part # was 63608. Neither can I get parts for
> it. At this point, the answer I get from Sears is to just pop on over
> to my local Sears store & buy a new saw. However, that's about $600
> more than I was hoping to spend.
>
> Are there any other sources in the world for replacement motors? I've
> googled the model & part numbers ti no avail. I was hoping someone
> here knew of another electric motor source.
My 30 yr. old Sears RAS had a bearing problem....A local electric motor
repair guy fixed it for $90.00 (bearings are epoxied in place). At the very
least I'd find a shop to check yours out especially if your unsure about
the problem (the motor isn't particularly difficult to remove)....I assume
you did try the reset switch (little red button on the motor)? After my
repair I picked up a spare running Sears saw (no wood table) for $20.00 on
Craigs list, I wanted the metal base for my sons "saw to be" (he scrounged
up a motor and post in a trade for something) and the rest as spare parts
for mine. The Craigs list here over a few months has quite a few used Sears
saws for $35.00 to $150. Rod
I don't know which one you have in particular, but is it anything like
113.29410 ? Thats the one that I have and on the Sears parts site they
are still showing it. It made me think about mine because mine is about
the same vintage.
Hope it might help.
Jack
Atlanta, GA
"Frank Rowe" <r0we'south@bell'south.not> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Help!
>
> I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Radial Arm Saw (model 113.199450), on
> which the motor just burned out. Sears (noth the website and the phone
> help people) says they can no longer get that motor because it's not
> made anymore. The motor part # was 63608. Neither can I get parts for
> it. At this point, the answer I get from Sears is to just pop on over
> to my local Sears store & buy a new saw. However, that's about $600
> more than I was hoping to spend.
>
> Are there any other sources in the world for replacement motors? I've
> googled the model & part numbers ti no avail. I was hoping someone
> here knew of another electric motor source.
>
> I've surfed previous messges in this group, and a recurring theme
> mentions a centrifugal switch that's supposed to cut out the starting
> circuit. But neither the Sears psrts listing nor the motor itself
> reveals anything that looks like a switch. Am I somehow missing it?
On 1/6/2019 4:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> I'm just trying to figure out how to wire it up with a regular plug to plug it in just three wires and I don't know what's but what's what
Two ways to approach this problem:
1) Watch Clark Griswold in Christmas Vacation. Pay particular attention
to the garage scene where he's connecting the wiring.
if that doesn't work. . .
2) learn how to express yourself in the written word. Your post makes
as much sense as "I have a house, what kind of dog did I have?"
If the motor has burned out why dont you take it to a motor rewind
specialist shop. It would be cheaper and you get all the same specs as you
started with rather than trying to find a matching motor. My mate runs such
a shop which is only 50 yards away from my workshop and he is very handy
when needing any questions answered regarding elctrics and motors etc.
Unfortunately he is several thousand miles from you as I am in Scotland!
"ka2fwc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a 113.198210, that works. If the motor fits yours, maybe we can work
> something out.
> I actually have 2 RAS the old style (with no digital readout) and the one
> above that the digital readout is not working. I don't need 2 saws.
> I am in Raleigh NC
> Frank
>
> "JACK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I don't know which one you have in particular, but is it anything like
>> 113.29410 ? Thats the one that I have and on the Sears parts site they
>> are still showing it. It made me think about mine because mine is about
>> the same vintage.
>>
>> Hope it might help.
>>
>> Jack
>> Atlanta, GA
>>
>> "Frank Rowe" <r0we'south@bell'south.not> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Help!
>> >
>> > I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Radial Arm Saw (model 113.199450), on
>> > which the motor just burned out. Sears (noth the website and the phone
>> > help people) says they can no longer get that motor because it's not
>> > made anymore. The motor part # was 63608. Neither can I get parts for
>> > it. At this point, the answer I get from Sears is to just pop on over
>> > to my local Sears store & buy a new saw. However, that's about $600
>> > more than I was hoping to spend.
>> >
>> > Are there any other sources in the world for replacement motors? I've
>> > googled the model & part numbers ti no avail. I was hoping someone
>> > here knew of another electric motor source.
>> >
>> > I've surfed previous messges in this group, and a recurring theme
>> > mentions a centrifugal switch that's supposed to cut out the starting
>> > circuit. But neither the Sears psrts listing nor the motor itself
>> > reveals anything that looks like a switch. Am I somehow missing it?
>>
>>
>
>
"Frank Rowe" <r0we'south@bell'south.not> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Help!
>
> I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Radial Arm Saw (model 113.199450), on
In case you haven't already gotten it, your model saw is eligible for a
repair kit from the website http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/
This has nothing to do with your motor problem, but if you end up fixing and
keeping the saw this kit might be useful to you.
From the website:
"WASHINGTON, D.C. - In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety
Commission (CPSC), Emerson Tool Co., of St. Louis, Mo., is recalling about
3.7 million Craftsman® radial arm saws for repair. These radial arm saws
were sold without a guard that covers the entire blade. Consumers have come
into contact with the blade or have been hit by pieces of wood kicked back
by the saws, resulting in severe injuries.
CPSC and Emerson have received about 300 reports of injuries while using
these saws. Injuries include hand and finger amputations; lacerated hands,
arms and fingers; fractured hands and fingers; and facial injuries.
Emerson is offering a free repair kit that provides a complete blade guard.
Consumers should stop using their Craftsman® radial arm saws immediately and
call Emerson Tool Co. to determine if their saw is recalled and to ensure
that they have proper safety and use instructions. Consumers should have the
model and serial numbers of their saw available when they call."
I have a 113.198210, that works. If the motor fits yours, maybe we can work
something out.
I actually have 2 RAS the old style (with no digital readout) and the one
above that the digital readout is not working. I don't need 2 saws.
I am in Raleigh NC
Frank
"JACK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't know which one you have in particular, but is it anything like
> 113.29410 ? Thats the one that I have and on the Sears parts site they
> are still showing it. It made me think about mine because mine is about
> the same vintage.
>
> Hope it might help.
>
> Jack
> Atlanta, GA
>
> "Frank Rowe" <r0we'south@bell'south.not> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Help!
> >
> > I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Radial Arm Saw (model 113.199450), on
> > which the motor just burned out. Sears (noth the website and the phone
> > help people) says they can no longer get that motor because it's not
> > made anymore. The motor part # was 63608. Neither can I get parts for
> > it. At this point, the answer I get from Sears is to just pop on over
> > to my local Sears store & buy a new saw. However, that's about $600
> > more than I was hoping to spend.
> >
> > Are there any other sources in the world for replacement motors? I've
> > googled the model & part numbers ti no avail. I was hoping someone
> > here knew of another electric motor source.
> >
> > I've surfed previous messges in this group, and a recurring theme
> > mentions a centrifugal switch that's supposed to cut out the starting
> > circuit. But neither the Sears psrts listing nor the motor itself
> > reveals anything that looks like a switch. Am I somehow missing it?
>
>
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 11:07:52 -0600, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 1/6/2019 4:57 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I'm just trying to figure out how to wire it up with a regular plug to plug it in just three wires and I don't know what's but what's what
>
>Two ways to approach this problem:
>
>1) Watch Clark Griswold in Christmas Vacation. Pay particular attention
>to the garage scene where he's connecting the wiring.
>
>if that doesn't work. . .
Get a cat?
>2) learn how to express yourself in the written word. Your post makes
>as much sense as "I have a house, what kind of dog did I have?"
>
Frank Rowe wrote:
> Help!
>
> I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Radial Arm Saw (model 113.199450),
> on
> which the motor just burned out. Sears (noth the website and the
> phone
> help people) says they can no longer get that motor because it's not
> made anymore. The motor part # was 63608. Neither can I get parts
> for
> it. At this point, the answer I get from Sears is to just pop on
> over
> to my local Sears store & buy a new saw. However, that's about $600
> more than I was hoping to spend.
>
> Are there any other sources in the world for replacement motors?
> I've
> googled the model & part numbers ti no avail. I was hoping someone
> here knew of another electric motor source.
>
> I've surfed previous messges in this group, and a recurring theme
> mentions a centrifugal switch that's supposed to cut out the
> starting
> circuit. But neither the Sears psrts listing nor the motor itself
> reveals anything that looks like a switch. Am I somehow missing it?
You're not going to find a third-party motor for that saw--the casing
is made specifically for that use, it's not a standard off-the-shelf
part. You might find a similar saw on ebay from which you can swap
the motor.
Find a good electrical shop--assuming that nothing proprietary and
unobtainable is broken in it then should be able to rebuild it as good
as new.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"Frank Rowe" <r0we'south@bell'south.not> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Help!
>
> I have a 20+ year old Craftsman Radial Arm Saw (model 113.199450), on
> which the motor just burned out. Sears (noth the website and the phone
> help people) says they can no longer get that motor because it's not
> made anymore. The motor part # was 63608. Neither can I get parts for
> it. At this point, the answer I get from Sears is to just pop on over
> to my local Sears store & buy a new saw. However, that's about $600
> more than I was hoping to spend.
>
> Are there any other sources in the world for replacement motors? I've
> googled the model & part numbers ti no avail. I was hoping someone
> here knew of another electric motor source.
>
> I've surfed previous messges in this group, and a recurring theme
> mentions a centrifugal switch that's supposed to cut out the starting
> circuit. But neither the Sears psrts listing nor the motor itself
> reveals anything that looks like a switch. Am I somehow missing it?
It is hard to imagine that a motor that is only 20 years old can't be
repaired. Take it to an electrical
motor shop.
Sears motors of that vintage were made by Emerson Electric. The motor is no
longer made because
Sears sent all the business to China.
You may not be able to identify the switch as a separate part. It might be
part of the armature; it
certainly needs to be directly connected to the armature. But people at an
electrical motor
shop would certainly know. If that switch did not disconnect the start
winding, you may be in
for a big bill because start windings are not designed for continuous use.
Hence, it may have
burned out and need to be replaced.
However, the switch may not be the problem. Usually the part that fails is
the capacitor. The motor usually
will not start if the capacitor is bad (and I must say that untrained people
like me have a hard time telling
that the capacitor is gone to heaven).
Jim