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Michael

09/03/2012 10:21 AM

Roadkill question

Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?

Mike


This topic has 74 replies

mr

marc rosen

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 9:37 AM

On Mar 9, 1:21=A0pm, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to =
take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

In theory, Yes!. In practice, 7 times. (one hit by me, the other six
I witnessed or were told about by a trusted friend and made it there
within 15 minutes of the "connection")
=20
Marc (who does not buy beef)

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 3:29 AM

On Mar 9, 7:18=A0pm, Stuart <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> =A0 =A0Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
> > On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5>,
> > > =A0 =A0 Michael<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> > >> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempte=
d to
> > >> take it home and butcher it?
>
> > > If I had the skill yes.
>
> > > Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only
> > > damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes.
> > Not to mention that it was dead, right? =A0LOL.
>
> Yes. What I meant was it wasn't mangled up in anyway. <g>
>
> OK, It happened like this.
>
> I was coming home from work after evening shift about 2310h. The track
> from the transmitting station was steep, twisty and unlit. I came round a
> bend and this rabbit was sitting in the middle of the road. I guess it wa=
s
> transfixed by my lights as it didn't move and I couldn't avoid it. I trie=
d
> to drive over it with my wheels each side of it but as I went over it I
> heard a bump. I stopped the car, looked round and found it on the verge. =
I
> suspect it tried to hop away but hit its head on the underside of the car=
.
>
> --
> Stuart Winsor
>
> Only plain text for emailshttp://www.asciiribbon.org

Those wabbits aren't too bright then, eh?

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 5:10 PM

Michael wrote:

> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted
> to take it home and butcher it?
>

Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

11/03/2012 10:03 PM

Robert Allison wrote:

>
> It is definitely illegal to take roadkill deer in Texas.

There's no roadkill deer in Texas - only armadillos...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 8:16 PM

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:13:59 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>
>> No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
>> them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
>> neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
>> guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
>> harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined.
>
>We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag them
>through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher
>them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they
>don't get dragged very far these days. I have technology to make that job
>easier.
>
>Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an
>eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine
Read it and weep, bubba.



>That said, roadkill is nasty. The side of the road is the best place for
>it.

Amen. And I love the new (to me) term, "flattened fauna", don't you?

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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 11:28 PM

Doug Miller wrote:
> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
> [email protected]:
>
>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>> past your nose to your lips.
>>
>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>
> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose
> right above the mouth.

Thankfully - a voice of reason...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

11/03/2012 9:39 AM

On Mar 10, 10:55=A0pm, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:40:26 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> >In a coop. Coop De Ville?
>
> Seeing as how you might eat them, don't you mean coup de grace?

Coup de Grease maybe, boy there can be a lot of fat on them birds.
Best to stuff them with just bread for the first couple of hours in
the smoker, then toss the stuffing and put in fresh, with tangerines,
walnuts, that sorta fare. Goose can be delicious, but not those flying
shit-machines. I guess that depends on where they've been feeding.
Like deer around here. Some are strictly corn-fed (farmers just LOVE
to have them steal the corn) or from the Pineries, very wild tasting.
I like the corn fed venison.

Punch line to another goose joke: Throw away the bird, eat the
stuffing: (a brick.)

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

11/03/2012 9:41 AM

On Mar 10, 11:06=A0pm, "m II" <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are a few here =A0that would give you a goose if you would hold
> still for a few minutes.
>
> ---------------"Robatoy" =A0wrote in message
>
> news:cd279a16-1d5e-4a3a-ae54-465f892e654c@j14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
> I like goose as a meal. The big fat white ones. The Canada Goose not
> so much. Gooses make great guard dogs.

I'm not surprised that you're interested in my arse.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

11/03/2012 2:27 PM

On 3/11/2012 11:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Mar 10, 10:55 pm, Dave<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:40:26 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>
>>> In a coop. Coop De Ville?
>>
>> Seeing as how you might eat them, don't you mean coup de grace?
>
> Coup de Grease maybe, boy there can be a lot of fat on them birds.
> Best to stuff them with just bread for the first couple of hours in
> the smoker, then toss the stuffing and put in fresh, with tangerines,
> walnuts, that sorta fare. Goose can be delicious, but not those flying
> shit-machines. I guess that depends on where they've been feeding.
> Like deer around here. Some are strictly corn-fed (farmers just LOVE
> to have them steal the corn) or from the Pineries, very wild tasting.
> I like the corn fed venison.
>
> Punch line to another goose joke: Throw away the bird, eat the
> stuffing: (a brick.)

Once upon a time, and quite a few years went by, in which I never missed
a single day of duck and goose season here on the Gulf Coast ... to the
point of, and after just getting out of the service and being generally
worthless for a while, leasing 1100 acres of rice field and guiding hunts.

As time went on, and I got tired of both picking, cleaning and preparing
the whole bird for the table, my favorite way to cook goose was to split
the breast skin and filet and remove just the breast; season well,
tenderize slightly with a meat hammer (more to get the seasoning in than
to tenderize) and drench them in flour, then pan fry the two breast
halves like you would slices of venison backstrap.

Most of the geese in those days, at least along the Mississippi Flyway,
were rice fed and, fixed in the manner above, would make a believer out
of most goose meat skeptics.

We ate pretty good back in those days ... with no FDA sanctioned,
corporate additives.

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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 11:54 PM

Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:13:59 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>>>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>>
>>> No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
>>> them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces.
>>> Urban neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers
>>> and rotting guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some
>>> states to harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be
>>> fined.
>>
>> We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag
>> them through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them
>> and butcher them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home,
>> and actually, they don't get dragged very far these days. I have
>> technology to make that job easier.
>>
>> Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something
>> like an eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is
>> goverened by states.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine
> Read it and weep, bubba.

Your point bubba?


--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 5:18 PM

Greg Guarino wrote:

> Our friend was maybe 155 pounds including his boots, and didn't look
> like the type to have butchering skills, a second vehicle or a walk-in
> freezer. He told us a number of other stories as well, and I'd be
> lying if I didn't admit to feeling a twinge of skepticism here and
> there. But he did keep us entertained for a while.

Ah yeah... but those backwoods good old boys usually do know how to dress
and butcher a deer/moose/elk, etc. It's not such a difficult thing at all.
Second vehicle - quite possibly an issue. Walk in freezer - not at all
necesary, and in fact very uncommon among people who shoot big game.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 11:55 PM

Michael <[email protected]> wrote in
news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5:

> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted
> to take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

No, but I might call one of the hunters I know and see if they're
interested.

Last winter, we had a deer die up by the garden after being hit by a car.
It was cold enough to possibly preserve the deer, so I called one of the
hunters. He didn't think it'd be worth messing with for the meat,
especially considering it had been hit.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 6:07 PM

On 03/09/2012 06:02 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/9/2012 5:54 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Swingman wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>>>>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
>>>> container...
>>>
>>>
>>> Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!
>>
>>
>> Ummmmmm... and that aroma...
>
> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
> past your nose to your lips.
>
> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>
> (key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice)
>

Rumor has it that menudo cures a hangover - personally, I wouldn't know
- maybe.


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 7:13 PM

On 03/09/2012 06:02 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/9/2012 5:54 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Swingman wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>>>>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
>>>> container...
>>>
>>>
>>> Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!
>>
>>
>> Ummmmmm... and that aroma...
>
> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
> past your nose to your lips.
>
> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>
> (key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice)
>

Ackchooly, the primo ingredient in menudo soup is tripe (critter tummy).
How it was harvested isn't part of the recipe.


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

RA

Robert Allison

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

11/03/2012 4:25 PM

On 3/9/2012 4:13 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>
>> No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
>> them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
>> neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
>> guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
>> harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined.
>
> We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag them
> through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher
> them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they
> don't get dragged very far these days. I have technology to make that job
> easier.
>
> Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an
> eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states.
>
> That said, roadkill is nasty. The side of the road is the best place for
> it.
>

It is definitely illegal to take roadkill deer in Texas.

--
Robert Allison
New Braunfels, TX

RA

Robert Allison

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

12/03/2012 6:46 PM

On 3/11/2012 9:03 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Robert Allison wrote:
>
>>
>> It is definitely illegal to take roadkill deer in Texas.
>
> There's no roadkill deer in Texas - only armadillos...
>

Those are not roadkill. In Texas, armadillos are born on the road dead.

--
Robert Allison
New Braunfels, TX

SS

Stuart

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 10:43 PM

In article
<28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5>,
Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
> take it home and butcher it?

If I had the skill yes.

Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage
appeared to be some blood round the eyes. I took it home, got my wife out
of bed (Her gran had taught how to deal with a rabbit) and it was rabbit
stew the following Sunday,

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SS

Stuart

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 12:18 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote:
> > In article
> > <28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5>,
> > Michael<[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
> >> take it home and butcher it?
> >
> > If I had the skill yes.
> >
> > Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only
> > damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes.


> Not to mention that it was dead, right? LOL.

Yes. What I meant was it wasn't mangled up in anyway. <g>

OK, It happened like this.

I was coming home from work after evening shift about 2310h. The track
from the transmitting station was steep, twisty and unlit. I came round a
bend and this rabbit was sitting in the middle of the road. I guess it was
transfixed by my lights as it didn't move and I couldn't avoid it. I tried
to drive over it with my wheels each side of it but as I went over it I
heard a bump. I stopped the car, looked round and found it on the verge. I
suspect it tried to hop away but hit its head on the underside of the car.

--
Stuart Winsor

Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org


MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 5:13 PM

Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>
> No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
> them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
> neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
> guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
> harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined.

We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag them
through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher
them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they
don't get dragged very far these days. I have technology to make that job
easier.

Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an
eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states.

That said, roadkill is nasty. The side of the road is the best place for
it.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 8:55 AM


"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 3/9/2012 10:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Ralph Compton wrote:
>>
>>> And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows.
>>
>> Not all that likely. Most people who know anything about this stuff stay
>> a
>> mile away from road kill. Sure enough, someone is going to raise the
>> one-off story about a friend of a friend who took a road kill - or a
>> Texan
>> (who are well known for taking armadillo off the shoulder of the road for
>> family Bar-B-Que), and that's exactly what it is - the one-off story.
>> You
>> really should believe that it goes on a lot less than you might believe.
>>
>
> Not to mention that hitting a deer can do some serious damage to a
> vehicle. Hid I just hit a deer the last thing on my mind would to clean
> it and pack the meat to take home.
>
> Then add to that if it happens in California you have to have available
> the deer tag warning about Cancer.

Ticks and Lyme are an issue here... Don't generally have Permethrin with me
in the car (in my experience ticks swim in Deet) so there is some risk
there. My pen knife has been put into play for gutting so that isn't an
issue... and I keep a blue tarp in the trunk so leaks aren't an issue.





MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 11:50 PM

John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>>> past your nose to your lips.
>>>
>>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>>
>> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose
>> right above the mouth.
>
> So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor?

Pussy willow...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 6:44 AM

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:22:54 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 3/9/2012 8:02 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>
>> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
>>> [email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>>>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>>>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>>>> past your nose to your lips.
>>>>
>>>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>>>
>>> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right
>>> above the mouth.
>>
>> So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor?
>
>Mesquite

For steaks, I like hickory, mesquite, and apple, in that order.
I've yet to try roadkill, and don't expect to.

--
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 6:21 AM

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 23:54:31 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:13:59 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>>>>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>>>
>>>> No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
>>>> them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces.
>>>> Urban neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers
>>>> and rotting guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some
>>>> states to harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be
>>>> fined.
>>>
>>> We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag
>>> them through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them
>>> and butcher them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home,
>>> and actually, they don't get dragged very far these days. I have
>>> technology to make that job easier.
>>>
>>> Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something
>>> like an eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is
>>> goverened by states.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine
>> Read it and weep, bubba.
>
>Your point bubba?

See "Wisconsin".

--
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RC

"Ralph Compton"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 4:45 PM

Not legal in California. Even if it were deer season, and you had a tag for
the zone where you hit the deer, striking the deer with a motor vehicle is
not a legal method of take. If you hit one, leave it lay, otherwise it's
poaching. Dumb? Maybe. But that's life in California.

That said, I know that some folks, where there are lots of road killed deer,
are very adept at field dressing a deer and can get it back home and in the
fridge pretty quick. And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than
anyone knows. And I also suspect the folks who do this are pretty good
about determining what meat is quickly and easily salvageable. Personally,
nah. Not for me.


"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5...
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
> take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 6:28 AM

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 23:28:49 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Doug Miller wrote:
>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>>> past your nose to your lips.
>>>
>>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>>
>> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose
>> right above the mouth.
>
>Thankfully - a voice of reason...

Yo no quiero menudo, gracias.

But the "nose above the mouth" statement reminds me of an engineer
joke:

--snip--
Several engineers are standing around one day trying
to decide what type of engineer must have designed
the human body. (All right, for the purpose of the joke
there is an assumption of some sort of higher being that
actually designed the human body...work with me people.)

The chemical engineer says "the human body was designed
by a chemical engineer. Look how the body takes in
nutrients and then turns them into energy and body
parts just by re-organizing a few chemical bonds."

The electrical enginner says "the human body was
clearly designed by an electrical engineer. Just observe
how tiny electrical impulses cause the muscles to move,
cause the person to feel, see and listen to all that is
happening around them. And finally look how a few
very tiny tiny electrical impulses can store a memory
for a lifetime, and yet bring that information back at a moments
notice. Clearly the work of a brillaint electrical engineer."

The mechanical engineer says "bahh! The human body was
designed by a mechanical engineer. Notice how the muscles and the
bones work to make the body move.
Notice how the organs work to move the food and other
nutrients around to the places where they are needed."

Finally the Civil engineer pipes up and says "you're all
wrong. The human body was designed by a civil engineer.
Who else would put a waste treatment plant right next
to a recreational facility?"
--snip--

--
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 6:40 PM

On Mar 10, 1:35=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:35:19 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Mar 10, 6:59=A0am, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:33:27 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> >> >That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled
> >> >here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning,
> >> >packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people
> >> >around christmas.
>
> >> I remember reading about authorities on the US side of lake Ontario
> >> shooting the marauding Canada geese, cooking them up and serving them
> >> to the homeless. Good for them. I hate those damned birds.
>
> >> Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
> >> couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.
> >> Those damned birds are protected over here. Stupidest law on the
> >> books.
>
> >>http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110624/nyc-officials-sending-c..=
.
>
> >I like goose as a meal. The big fat white ones. The Canada Goose not
> >so much. Gooses make great guard dogs.
>
> They guard your banana plantation, eh? =A0How do you keep them around
> during the winter?
>

In a coop. Coop De Ville?

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 11:21 PM

Ralph Compton wrote:

> And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows.

Not all that likely. Most people who know anything about this stuff stay a
mile away from road kill. Sure enough, someone is going to raise the
one-off story about a friend of a friend who took a road kill - or a Texan
(who are well known for taking armadillo off the shoulder of the road for
family Bar-B-Que), and that's exactly what it is - the one-off story. You
really should believe that it goes on a lot less than you might believe.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]


mI

"m II"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 10:06 PM

There are a few here that would give you a goose if you would hold
still for a few minutes.

---------------
"Robatoy" wrote in message
news:cd279a16-1d5e-4a3a-ae54-465f892e654c@j14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
I like goose as a meal. The big fat white ones. The Canada Goose not
so much. Gooses make great guard dogs.

Rr

RonB

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 9:05 AM

On Mar 9, 12:21=A0pm, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to =
take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

Years ago in Kansas the authorities did offer the deer to the person
involved in the accident. I don't know if that is still the case. If
it is as mangled as some I have seen I wouldn't want it because you
can get into all kinds of contamination issues.

Ron

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 10:35 AM

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:35:19 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mar 10, 6:59 am, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:33:27 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>
>> >That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled
>> >here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning,
>> >packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people
>> >around christmas.
>>
>> I remember reading about authorities on the US side of lake Ontario
>> shooting the marauding Canada geese, cooking them up and serving them
>> to the homeless. Good for them. I hate those damned birds.
>>
>> Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
>> couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.
>> Those damned birds are protected over here. Stupidest law on the
>> books.
>>
>> http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110624/nyc-officials-sending-c...
>
>I like goose as a meal. The big fat white ones. The Canada Goose not
>so much. Gooses make great guard dogs.

They guard your banana plantation, eh? How do you keep them around
during the winter?


--
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 5:25 PM

On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>
>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted
>> to take it home and butcher it?
>>
>
> Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container...


Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!

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mI

"m II"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 9:59 AM

That is an easy to resolve issue as done by many fields and beaches.

It involves some corner posts and clear monofilament line.

-------------------
"Han" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
That's the same for the recreational playing fields by Bear Mountain
parking lots in New York, a very pretty area if you can look around the
2
legged creatures.
--
Best regards
Han
email address


Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 5:30 PM

On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote:
> In article
> <28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5>,
> Michael<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
>> take it home and butcher it?
>
> If I had the skill yes.
>
> Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage
> appeared to be some blood round the eyes. I took it home, got my wife out
> of bed (Her gran had taught how to deal with a rabbit) and it was rabbit
> stew the following Sunday,

Tenderized ...


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Doug Miller

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 9:23 PM

Michael <[email protected]> wrote in
news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel
5:

> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
> tempted to take it home and butcher it?

Nope. Not a chance. BTDT, too f'ing messy to want to try it again.
I hunt. And I pay someone else to butcher my kills.

But I *would* -- as provided for by Indiana law -- request a
sheriff's deputy to give me a game tag for that deer so I could
legally transport it to the same butcher I use during hunting
season.

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 2:00 AM

Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
[email protected]:

> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
> past your nose to your lips.
>
> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...

And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right above the mouth.

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 2:25 AM

"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>>> past your nose to your lips.
>>>
>>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>>
>> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right
>> above the mouth.
>
> So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor?

Depends on the food. For salmon, I prefer hickory; for pork, apple; but for beef, nothing,
nothing, NOTHING beats mesquite. SWMBO and I both enjoy venison with either hickory or
mesquite.

Hn

Han

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 12:03 PM

Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
> couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.

That's the same for the recreational playing fields by Bear Mountain
parking lots in New York, a very pretty area if you can look around the 2
legged creatures.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 4:51 PM

"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "m II" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:L%J6r.39102$I%[email protected]...
>> That is an easy to resolve issue as done by many fields and beaches.
>>
>> It involves some corner posts and clear monofilament line.
>>
>> -------------------
>> "Han" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]... That's the same for
>> the recreational playing fields by Bear Mountain parking lots in New
>> York, a very pretty area if you can look around the 2 legged
>> creatures. Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>> Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
>> couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.
>
> An associate of mine has an automated, taxidermist prepared, coyote
> that he puts near the edge of the pond at the resort/banquet facility
> that he owns. The head and tail move... haven't seen a goose there
> since!
>
> John

Sounds like a great idea!!


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

11/03/2012 4:23 PM

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

[...]
>
> P.S: I thought you might have bought them a little goose coupe. You
> don't know what I got.

When my sons were small, we used to go fishing at the pond in the local park, a park that had
nearly as many geese as it had fish. After returning from one of these excursions, I sat down in
the living room and put my feet up. SWMBO immediately started giving me grief for coming
into the house with dog poop on my shoe. I looked at it, and told her it wasn't dog poop. What
is it, then? she demanded.

You guys know what came next, right?

[Singing] "It's just a little goose poop, you don't know what I got."

nn

notImpressed

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

18/03/2012 3:03 AM

Michael <[email protected]> wrote in
news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5:

> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted
> to take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

My dad hit a deer once and the Trooper asked if he wanted to take it home.
He daid if he didn't he'd call a person who would. I suppose the difference
is freshly killed vs. one you find dead by the road.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 10:11 AM


"m II" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:L%J6r.39102$I%[email protected]...
> That is an easy to resolve issue as done by many fields and beaches.
>
> It involves some corner posts and clear monofilament line.
>
> -------------------
> "Han" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> That's the same for the recreational playing fields by Bear Mountain
> parking lots in New York, a very pretty area if you can look around the 2
> legged creatures.
> Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
> couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.

An associate of mine has an automated, taxidermist prepared, coyote that he
puts near the edge of the pond at the resort/banquet facility that he owns.
The head and tail move... haven't seen a goose there since!

John

Ll

Leon

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 5:40 PM

On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote:
> In article
> <28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5>,
> Michael<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
>> take it home and butcher it?
>
> If I had the skill yes.
>
> Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage
> appeared to be some blood round the eyes.


Not to mention that it was dead, right? LOL.

DI

"Dave In Texas"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 9:34 PM

"Swingman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>
>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted
>> to take it home and butcher it?
>>
>
> Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
> container...


Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!

Candyass! Sorta made me want to get a spoon and a straw.
Dave in Texas

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 6:54 PM

Swingman wrote:
> On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Michael wrote:
>>
>>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>>
>>
>> Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
>> container...
>
>
> Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!


Ummmmmm... and that aroma...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 3:22 AM

On Mar 9, 11:16=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:13:59 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Larry Jaques wrote:
> >> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
> >>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>
> >> No, and I love venison. =A0But the people who hit deer usually butcher
> >> them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
> >> neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
> >> guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
> >> harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined.
>
> >We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. =A0Then we drag the=
m
> >through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butc=
her
> >them. =A0Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, =
they
> >don't get dragged very far these days. =A0I have technology to make that=
job
> >easier.
>
> >Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an
> >eagle. =A0Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by state=
s.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine
> Read it and weep, bubba.
>
> >That said, roadkill is nasty. =A0The side of the road is the best place =
for
> >it.
>
> Amen. =A0And I love the new (to me) term, "flattened fauna", don't you?
>
> --
> Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.

From my grille to your grille

Rr

RonB

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

11/03/2012 7:30 PM

On Mar 11, 9:03=A0pm, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Robert Allison wrote:
>
> > It is definitely illegal to take roadkill deer in Texas.
>
> There's no roadkill deer in Texas - only armadillos...
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]

No - I think they chased all of the little digging bastard up to
Kansas.

RonB

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 11:29 PM

John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>>> past your nose to your lips.
>>>
>>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>>
>> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose
>> right above the mouth.
>
> So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor?

Cow chips - before they get lit on fire...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

12/03/2012 6:34 PM

On Mar 9, 2:21=A0pm, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to =
take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

Ruptured internal organs could render the meat unfit. Otherwise,
any meat is fair game for chili making.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 4:48 PM


"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5...
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
> take it home and butcher it?
>

I think more than anything the decision would be made based on whether or
not there was time, how I was dressed, if the vehicle were drivable, and if
you can even find the deer. I hit one one time with a VW bug and the deer
went over the roof after caving in the hood and right fender. Never did find
it... needed help pulling the fender out of the tire too.

Other it depends issues... if it was a solid body hit forget it... exploded
guts and "bruised" meat aren't worth the effort nor the nasty experience. On
the other hand, if it isn't hit too bad the back straps and hind quarters
can be taken out quickly without having to get into the guts.

It depends... and the coyotes, vultures and crows have to eat too.






Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 3:33 AM

On Mar 9, 10:42=A0pm, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to=
take it home and butcher it?
>
> >Mike
>
> I'm not interesting in doing it. =A0The state though, has people on a
> list that take the deer and make good use of it. =A0State laws will vary
> with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless
> shelters and soup kitchens.

That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled
here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning,
packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people
around christmas.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 7:35 AM

On Mar 10, 6:59=A0am, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:33:27 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> >That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled
> >here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning,
> >packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people
> >around christmas.
>
> I remember reading about authorities on the US side of lake Ontario
> shooting the marauding Canada geese, cooking them up and serving them
> to the homeless. Good for them. I hate those damned birds.
>
> Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
> couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.
> Those damned birds are protected over here. Stupidest law on the
> books.
>
> http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110624/nyc-officials-sending-c...

I like goose as a meal. The big fat white ones. The Canada Goose not
so much. Gooses make great guard dogs.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 7:02 PM

On 3/9/2012 5:54 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>>>> tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
>>> container...
>>
>>
>> Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!
>
>
> Ummmmmm... and that aroma...

Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
past your nose to your lips.

That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...

(key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice)

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"HeyBub"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 2:37 PM

HeyBub wrote:
>
> I have a bumper sticker (picked up in New Hampshire). It reads:
>
> Brake for Moose
> It can save your life
>
> I'm proud to say that since I've been displaying the above sticker,
> not a single person in Texas has collided with a moose!

While there, I did bag a moose on the hunting trip. I called the wife to
brag just a little.

She asked: "You shot a moose? Somehow that doesn't sound like you. What's
missing?"

"Well, it had a saddle..."


LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 9:03 PM

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:40:26 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mar 10, 1:35 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:35:19 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On Mar 10, 6:59 am, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:33:27 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>
>> >> >That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled
>> >> >here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning,
>> >> >packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people
>> >> >around christmas.
>>
>> >> I remember reading about authorities on the US side of lake Ontario
>> >> shooting the marauding Canada geese, cooking them up and serving them
>> >> to the homeless. Good for them. I hate those damned birds.
>>
>> >> Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
>> >> couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.
>> >> Those damned birds are protected over here. Stupidest law on the
>> >> books.
>>
>> >>http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110624/nyc-officials-sending-c...
>>
>> >I like goose as a meal. The big fat white ones. The Canada Goose not
>> >so much. Gooses make great guard dogs.
>>
>> They guard your banana plantation, eh?  How do you keep them around
>> during the winter?
>>
>
>In a coop. Coop De Ville?

I had a stove by that name. Excellent old gas job with thermostatic
burner, big chrome griddle in the middle, and a separate broiler with
unlimited height adjuster. She was a beaut!

And, while we're speaking of wooden cock houses, I saw some advertised
in the local Grange Co-op ad last week. Hayseuss Crisco, they go for
$650-800 around here! Now I see why Swingy was using a Festool to
build 'em. I had no idea they went for so much money.
http://www.grangecoop.com/poultry-coops

P.S: I thought you might have bought them a little goose coupe. You
don't know what I got.

--
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 9:02 PM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
> [email protected]:
>
>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>> past your nose to your lips.
>>
>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>
> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right
> above the mouth.

So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor?


Kk

Kenefick

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 7:57 PM

In Ohio it is illegal to take the deer. Not sure why. Mike in Ohio

On 3/9/2012 1:21 PM, Michael wrote:
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 9:29 PM

Naw - the cow chips are used to run off the bugs - in a ring of bug fire
around the camp.

That was the old method. Cheap and effective.

Martin

On 3/9/2012 10:29 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> "Doug Miller"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
>>> [email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>>>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>>>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>>>> past your nose to your lips.
>>>>
>>>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>>>
>>> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose
>>> right above the mouth.
>>
>> So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor?
>
> Cow chips - before they get lit on fire...
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 8:27 PM

On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:42:34 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>>
>>Mike
>
>I'm not interesting in doing it. The state though, has people on a
>list that take the deer and make good use of it. State laws will vary
>with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless
>shelters and soup kitchens.

Around here, everyone takes it to (or has it picked up by) the
Wildlife Images park. http://www.wildlifeimages.org/ Clark is my
fave kitty, a bigass cougar.

--
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 2:23 PM

On 3/9/2012 1:21 PM, Michael wrote:
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

Quite a few years ago my wife and I spent a night in Greeneville
Junction, Maine. There was a pub there called the Roadkill Cafe,
complete with a comical menu full of flattened critters (the food was
mostly standard fare). After dinner we hung out at the bar for a while.

The fellow next to us spent more time than was absolutely necessary
describing an nighttime encounter between his 4x4 vehicle and one of the
local megafauna. To make an overlong story short, it didn't go well for
either the moose or the truck.

Now our friend had had a few beers, and had likely done the same the
night of the crash, so there may have been some embellishment. But to
hear him tell it, the highway cop that responded to the accident asked
him if he wanted to keep the meat.

"500 pounds of fresh venison? Hell yeah!"

Our friend was maybe 155 pounds including his boots, and didn't look
like the type to have butchering skills, a second vehicle or a walk-in
freezer. He told us a number of other stories as well, and I'd be lying
if I didn't admit to feeling a twinge of skepticism here and there. But
he did keep us entertained for a while.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 10:42 PM

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>
>Mike

I'm not interesting in doing it. The state though, has people on a
list that take the deer and make good use of it. State laws will vary
with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless
shelters and soup kitchens.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 12:10 AM


"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ralph Compton wrote:
>
>> And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows.
>
> Not all that likely. Most people who know anything about this stuff stay
> a mile away from road kill. Sure enough, someone is going to raise the
> one-off story about a friend of a friend who took a road kill - or a Texan
> (who are well known for taking armadillo off the shoulder of the road for
> family Bar-B-Que), and that's exactly what it is - the one-off story. You
> really should believe that it goes on a lot less than you might believe.

There is fresh road kill and there is road kill... ;~) When I worked at
Colonial Williamsburg road kill opossum and other critters would end up in
the restored area interpretive kitchens. ;~)

Ll

Leon

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 7:28 AM

On 3/9/2012 10:21 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Ralph Compton wrote:
>
>> And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows.
>
> Not all that likely. Most people who know anything about this stuff stay a
> mile away from road kill. Sure enough, someone is going to raise the
> one-off story about a friend of a friend who took a road kill - or a Texan
> (who are well known for taking armadillo off the shoulder of the road for
> family Bar-B-Que), and that's exactly what it is - the one-off story. You
> really should believe that it goes on a lot less than you might believe.
>

Not to mention that hitting a deer can do some serious damage to a
vehicle. Hid I just hit a deer the last thing on my mind would to clean
it and pack the meat to take home.

Then add to that if it happens in California you have to have available
the deer tag warning about Cancer.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 7:22 AM

On 3/9/2012 8:02 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>>> past your nose to your lips.
>>>
>>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>>
>> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right
>> above the mouth.
>
> So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor?
>
>
>

Mesquite

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

14/03/2012 9:31 AM


"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Robert Allison wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is definitely illegal to take roadkill deer in Texas.
>>
>>There's no roadkill deer in Texas - only armadillos...
>
>
> Q. Why did the chicken cross the road?
>
> A. To prove to the prairie dog that it _could_ be done!
>
>

From my long distance bicycle trip experiences it's the whitetail deer and
antelope that seem to have a lot of trouble crossing the road... snakes,
turtles, squirrels, skunks, woodchucks, porcupines, ground squirrels,
prairie dogs, fox and myriad birds don't seem to fare well either nor do the
occasional alligator or bobcat... only seen one road kill chicken so they
must be good at it. ;~)

John

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 11:07 AM

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?

No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined.

--
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.

Du

Dave

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 6:59 AM

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:33:27 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled
>here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning,
>packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people
>around christmas.

I remember reading about authorities on the US side of lake Ontario
shooting the marauding Canada geese, cooking them up and serving them
to the homeless. Good for them. I hate those damned birds.

Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose shit.
Those damned birds are protected over here. Stupidest law on the
books.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110624/nyc-officials-sending-cdn-geese-to-feed-homeless-110624/

Mm

Markem

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 4:39 PM

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>
>Mike

You can do that in Illinois, of course that is if your vehicle is
drivable.

Du

Dave

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 9:55 PM

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:40:26 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>In a coop. Coop De Ville?

Seeing as how you might eat them, don't you mean coup de grace?

Du

Dave

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 4:10 PM

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques
>>I like goose as a meal. The big fat white ones. The Canada Goose not
>>so much. Gooses make great guard dogs.

>They guard your banana plantation, eh? How do you keep them around
>during the winter?

Most migrate south into the US for winter. But, an increasingly
greater number of them stay and winter in Canada because of the idiots
up here who feed them on a regular basis. Failing that, geese are just
as capable of breaking into your garbage can as any wily raccoon.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 10:07 PM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:d-
>>> [email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
>>>> cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
>>>> roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
>>>> past your nose to your lips.
>>>>
>>>> That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...
>>>
>>> And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right
>>> above the mouth.
>>
>> So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor?
>
> Depends on the food. For salmon, I prefer hickory; for pork, apple; but
> for beef, nothing,
> nothing, NOTHING beats mesquite. SWMBO and I both enjoy venison with
> either hickory or
> mesquite.

We often end up putting whitetail venison on the gas grill after a soak in
State Fair Speedy Sauce... except the back strap and tenderloin that is!

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

10/03/2012 6:28 AM

Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 3/9/2012 1:21 PM, Michael wrote:
>> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
>> tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike
>
> Quite a few years ago my wife and I spent a night in Greeneville
> Junction, Maine. There was a pub there called the Roadkill Cafe,
> complete with a comical menu full of flattened critters (the food was
> mostly standard fare). After dinner we hung out at the bar for a
> while.
> The fellow next to us spent more time than was absolutely necessary
> describing an nighttime encounter between his 4x4 vehicle and one of
> the local megafauna. To make an overlong story short, it didn't go
> well for either the moose or the truck.
>
> Now our friend had had a few beers, and had likely done the same the
> night of the crash, so there may have been some embellishment. But to
> hear him tell it, the highway cop that responded to the accident asked
> him if he wanted to keep the meat.
>
> "500 pounds of fresh venison? Hell yeah!"
>
> Our friend was maybe 155 pounds including his boots, and didn't look
> like the type to have butchering skills, a second vehicle or a walk-in
> freezer. He told us a number of other stories as well, and I'd be
> lying if I didn't admit to feeling a twinge of skepticism here and
> there. But he did keep us entertained for a while.

I have a bumper sticker (picked up in New Hampshire). It reads:

Brake for Moose
It can save your life

I'm proud to say that since I've been displaying the above sticker, not a
single person in Texas has collided with a moose!

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

09/03/2012 2:50 PM

My neighbor hit a deer and the cop offered the carcass to a passer by,
the neighbor said hell no, I want that meat, and brought it home and
butchered it in her yard. Her dad was a butcher apparently and did many
hunters keep. She learned from him. The meat was very tasty 8>)

On 3/9/2012 1:21 PM, Michael wrote:
> Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?
>
> Mike

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

14/03/2012 1:16 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Mike Marlow <[email protected]> wrote:
>Robert Allison wrote:
>
>>
>> It is definitely illegal to take roadkill deer in Texas.
>
>There's no roadkill deer in Texas - only armadillos...


Q. Why did the chicken cross the road?

A. To prove to the prairie dog that it _could_ be done!

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Michael on 09/03/2012 10:21 AM

13/03/2012 9:41 AM

On 3/12/2012 6:46 PM, Robert Allison wrote:
> On 3/11/2012 9:03 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Robert Allison wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is definitely illegal to take roadkill deer in Texas.
>>
>> There's no roadkill deer in Texas - only armadillos...
>>
>
> Those are not roadkill. In Texas, armadillos are born on the road dead.

Apparently there's a secret unit in every county courthouse which
distributes them evenly (according to the latest, Federally approved,
voting map) around Texas between 2 and 4 AM each night (it's been
rumored that the wives and daughters of the members of these units are
recognizable by the SS James Avery armadillo pendant on a silver chain
they wear to ward off the dreaded armadillo aromatic after effects).

I mean, what else could explain where our tax dollars go, eh?

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