Several years back Bridge City Tools manufactured and sold a Kerf Maker,
a dandy tool for cutting dado's and grooves perfect in width with
undersized blades and router bits. I own one and it worked extremely
well for cutting 3/64" deep half lap joints 1/2" wide with a 3/8" wide
dado set.
This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
filing and sanding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
In this video he builds a dandy folding step stool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8iCJZQvFiE#t=198
Ok, lets add this too.... A small walnut stool with very interesting
joinery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 12:33:02 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 1/16/2015 11:14 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 1:02:03 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> >> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
> >> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> >>
> >>> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRRpVr4nwt9g
> >>
> >> It's well done but not what I'd want.
> >>
> >> I think I may put some casters on mine that engage via a quick
> >> adjustment ring and disengage with same. With the ring large
> >> enough to get good leverage but not so big to get in the way.
> >>
> >> I haven't seen anything off the shelf. But I'm still looking
> >> around.
> >
> > I use this on my table saw:
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/DELTA-50-345-Universal-Mobile-Included/dp/B000022=
3CL/ref=3Dlp_552520_1_2?s=3Dpower-hand-tools&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1421428042&sr=
=3D1-2
> >
> > I think I would prefer something with multiple casters that rotate vs. =
the 2 fixed and 1 rotating that this base uses. My shop is really small and=
while pulling the saw straight out from the wall and pushing it back in is=
fine, angling it is a bear since I basically have to drag the back wheels =
sideways.
> >
>=20
>=20
> I have this under my 700# Sawstop saw. If moves as you like, all=20
> casters swivel. Pricey and made by Sawstop. It is the industrial=20
> mobile base. It has a hydraulic lift pedal that you pump 4~5 times and=
=20
> the beast floats across the floor. My garage floor is slightly slanted=
=20
> towards the drive way and if I am not careful the saw will roll out of=20
> the garage on its own. Tap a lever and the saw floats down to the=20
> floor. It is seriously the Cadillac of mobile bases.
>=20
> http://www.amazon.com/SawStop-MB-IND-000-Mobile-Industrial-Cabinet/dp/B00=
40GXX1I
>=20
> My previous Jet cabinet saw was much lighter but was on a tripod style,=
=20
> 2 wheels fixed and one swiveled. I thought it was great but ir required=
=20
> some maneuvering to get it into a specific place. The Sawstop=20
> Industrial mobile base works so well that I have never longed for the=20
> old stile base.
>=20
> $300 and for me worth every penny.
Based on the size of my shop the $/ft cost would be significantly higher fo=
r me than for you. I wouldn't near the mileage out of my base that you get.=
;-)
On 1/16/2015 12:18 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:14:16 PM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>>
>>>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>>>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>>>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
>>>> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>>>
>>> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do
>>> not see anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast
>>> moving sharpened steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy
>>> follows all of the right safety measures on those tools. I think
>>> the fast motion can/does create an illusion that the viewer should
>>> watch more than once to be sure to see what is really happening,
>>> because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are in a position
>>> to worry "if something went wrong".
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Mike-
>>> [email protected]
>>
>> Take a look at this video starting at about 1:50.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
>>
>> He is seen test fitting a joint on top of his sled with the blade
>> still spinning. Call me chicken, but I would be a bit farther from
>> the blade than he is, especially if I was trying to fit a complex
>> joint together.
>
> Ok - I'll call you a chicken on this one. I find it perfectly safe, but
> that's probably just a difference in what we each view as safe.
>
I do questionable stuff but trying a test fit of a joint a couple of
inches away from a blade that is still spinning is not what I would suggest.
I think you have made up your mind that regardless of what we point out
you are not going to, never mind.
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:14:23 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> Several years back Bridge City Tools manufactured and sold a Kerf Maker,
> a dandy tool for cutting dado's and grooves perfect in width with
> undersized blades and router bits. I own one and it worked extremely
> well for cutting 3/64" deep half lap joints 1/2" wide with a 3/8" wide
> dado set.
>
> This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
> filing and sanding.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
>
> In this video he builds a dandy folding step stool.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8iCJZQvFiE#t=198
>
> Ok, lets add this too.... A small walnut stool with very interesting
> joinery.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
>
> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
2 Comments...OK, 3
1 - I was surprised to see how much band saw blade he has exposed.
2 - All that melting snow...all that mess/moisture in his shop.
3 - Phenomenal work.
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 12:21:53 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:14:23 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> Several years back Bridge City Tools manufactured and sold a Kerf Maker,
>> a dandy tool for cutting dado's and grooves perfect in width with
>> undersized blades and router bits. I own one and it worked extremely
>> well for cutting 3/64" deep half lap joints 1/2" wide with a 3/8" wide
>> dado set.
>>
>> This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
>> filing and sanding.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
>>
>> In this video he builds a dandy folding step stool.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8iCJZQvFiE#t=198
>>
>> Ok, lets add this too.... A small walnut stool with very interesting
>> joinery.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
>>
>> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
>
>2 Comments...OK, 3
>
>1 - I was surprised to see how much band saw blade he has exposed.
>
>2 - All that melting snow...all that mess/moisture in his shop.
Is *that* what that was. ;-)
>3 - Phenomenal work.
Yep. Nice work. Nice engineering. Impressive.
On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 1:02:03 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>=20
> > And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
> >=20
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRRpVr4nwt9g
>=20
> It's well done but not what I'd want.
>=20
> I think I may put some casters on mine that engage via a quick
> adjustment ring and disengage with same. With the ring large
> enough to get good leverage but not so big to get in the way.
>=20
> I haven't seen anything off the shelf. But I'm still looking
> around.
I use this on my table saw:
http://www.amazon.com/DELTA-50-345-Universal-Mobile-Included/dp/B0000223CL/=
ref=3Dlp_552520_1_2?s=3Dpower-hand-tools&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1421428042&sr=3D1-=
2
I think I would prefer something with multiple casters that rotate vs. the =
2 fixed and 1 rotating that this base uses. My shop is really small and whi=
le pulling the saw straight out from the wall and pushing it back in is fin=
e, angling it is a bear since I basically have to drag the back wheels side=
ways.
On 1/16/2015 11:43 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 1/15/2015 11:59 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>>> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
>>
>> It's well done but not what I'd want.
>>
>> I think I may put some casters on mine that engage via a quick
>> adjustment ring and disengage with same. With the ring large
>> enough to get good leverage but not so big to get in the way.
>>
>> I haven't seen anything off the shelf. But I'm still looking
>> around.
>>
>>
>>
> Here are a couple more ideas, the first involves needing storage for the
> wheels unless you simply permanently attached them at the top with hinges.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMmQH0msW4
>
>
> Or really simple but involves a bit of lifting.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF7EgoYJAqc
>
>
> Same principal but a bet more refined.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HENMh1FWtj0
>
That first one is cool. Nice design.
The second is an old design.
The third is a nice twist on an old design. Well done.
--
Jeff
On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:14:16 PM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>
> > The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
> > sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
> > of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
> > were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>
> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do not see
> anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast moving sharpened
> steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy follows all of the right
> safety measures on those tools. I think the fast motion can/does create an
> illusion that the viewer should watch more than once to be sure to see what
> is really happening, because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are
> in a position to worry "if something went wrong".
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
Take a look at this video starting at about 1:50.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
He is seen test fitting a joint on top of his sled with the blade still spinning. Call me chicken, but I would be a bit farther from the blade than he is, especially if I was trying to fit a complex joint together.
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 6:14:23 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
I like it, too. I have an 8' bench that could use some better mobilization. I might try to rework/rebuild the base, somehow, with what he's demonstrated.
Sonny
On 1/15/2015 11:59 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
>
> It's well done but not what I'd want.
>
> I think I may put some casters on mine that engage via a quick
> adjustment ring and disengage with same. With the ring large
> enough to get good leverage but not so big to get in the way.
>
> I haven't seen anything off the shelf. But I'm still looking
> around.
>
>
>
Here are a couple more ideas, the first involves needing storage for the
wheels unless you simply permanently attached them at the top with hinges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMmQH0msW4
Or really simple but involves a bit of lifting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF7EgoYJAqc
Same principal but a bet more refined.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HENMh1FWtj0
On 1/15/2015 11:21 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> Several years back Bridge City Tools manufactured and sold a Kerf
>> Maker, a dandy tool for cutting dado's and grooves perfect in width
>> with undersized blades and router bits. I own one and it worked
>> extremely well for cutting 3/64" deep half lap joints 1/2" wide with
>> a 3/8" wide dado set.
>>
>> This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
>> filing and sanding.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
>
> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>
>
>
>
I didn't see anything that worried me. I thought he operated pretty safely.
--
Jeff
On 1/15/2015 4:18 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>
>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
>> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>
> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do not see
> anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast moving sharpened
> steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy follows all of the right
> safety measures on those tools. I think the fast motion can/does create an
> illusion that the viewer should watch more than once to be sure to see what
> is really happening, because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are
> in a position to worry "if something went wrong".
>
Agreed,
I didn't see the problems in the joints the other day, but the video
came in very crappy.
Must be my eyes... :-)
--
Jeff
On 1/16/2015 3:29 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:43:39 -0600
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 1/15/2015 11:59 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
>>>
>>> It's well done but not what I'd want.
>>>
>>> I think I may put some casters on mine that engage via a quick
>>> adjustment ring and disengage with same. With the ring large
>>> enough to get good leverage but not so big to get in the way.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen anything off the shelf. But I'm still looking
>>> around.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Here are a couple more ideas, the first involves needing storage for
>> the wheels unless you simply permanently attached them at the top
>> with hinges.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMmQH0msW4
>
> all I saw was a beautiful chevy and I wanted to see more of the GTO.
> was there a workbench in there
>
LOL, You many not have seen the Chevy or the Goat either had both had a
bikini model adorning the vehicles. :~)
On 1/16/2015 1:18 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:14:16 PM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>>
>>>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>>>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>>>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
>>>> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>>>
>>> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do
>>> not see anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast
>>> moving sharpened steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy
>>> follows all of the right safety measures on those tools. I think
>>> the fast motion can/does create an illusion that the viewer should
>>> watch more than once to be sure to see what is really happening,
>>> because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are in a position
>>> to worry "if something went wrong".
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Mike-
>>> [email protected]
>>
>> Take a look at this video starting at about 1:50.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
>>
>> He is seen test fitting a joint on top of his sled with the blade
>> still spinning. Call me chicken, but I would be a bit farther from
>> the blade than he is, especially if I was trying to fit a complex
>> joint together.
>
> Ok - I'll call you a chicken on this one. I find it perfectly safe, but
> that's probably just a difference in what we each view as safe.
>
I had no problem with it either.
Damn, I am agreeing with Mike twice in 2 days.
Holly crap :-0
--
Jeff
On 1/16/2015 2:41 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:31:51 -0600
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> My previous Jet cabinet saw was much lighter but was on a tripod
>> style, 2 wheels fixed and one swiveled. I thought it was great but
>> ir required some maneuvering to get it into a specific place. The
>> Sawstop Industrial mobile base works so well that I have never longed
>> for the old stile base.
>
> Mine's the tripod style. But I decided I don't really need to move
> it much. But if so it's definitely more work than full swivel.
>
I was skeptical of the 4 wheel vs. 3 wheel tripod layout. The 3 wheel
layout does not rock regardless of how uneven the surface is. Although
the SawStop hydraulic base is heavily built it seems to still have all 4
wheels on the floor with 700#'s resting on top, regardless of where it
place it in a 3 car garage. Having said that if there had been a tripod
style base available for the industrial version of the SawStop I
probably would have opted for that style again 2 years ago. The
location of the dust port on this particular model saw was problematic
as far as extension tables and mobile bases were concerned. Fortunately
Sawstop offered this base and HTC, "just in time" changed their out feed
roller extension to work around the dust port. ;~)
On 1/15/2015 2:21 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 7:14:23 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> Several years back Bridge City Tools manufactured and sold a Kerf Maker,
>> a dandy tool for cutting dado's and grooves perfect in width with
>> undersized blades and router bits. I own one and it worked extremely
>> well for cutting 3/64" deep half lap joints 1/2" wide with a 3/8" wide
>> dado set.
>>
>> This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
>> filing and sanding.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
>>
>> In this video he builds a dandy folding step stool.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8iCJZQvFiE#t=198
>>
>> Ok, lets add this too.... A small walnut stool with very interesting
>> joinery.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
>>
>> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
>
> 2 Comments...OK, 3
>
> 1 - I was surprised to see how much band saw blade he has exposed.
Yup! and a lot of flex in that blade.
>
> 2 - All that melting snow...all that mess/moisture in his shop.
I could be wrong but in a cold shop that water may just drain to the
front and out of the garage. If not warm the humidity would probably
stay pretty low.
>
> 3 - Phenomenal work.
Not bad at all, I'd like to see where he is at in 10 years.
On 1/15/2015 3:18 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>
>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
>> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>
> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do not see
> anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast moving sharpened
> steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy follows all of the right
> safety measures on those tools. I think the fast motion can/does create an
> illusion that the viewer should watch more than once to be sure to see what
> is really happening, because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are
> in a position to worry "if something went wrong".
>
In one of the videos, that I provided a link to, there was a situation
that I recall being a bit dicey. He was ripping narrow stock and not
using a push stick of any kind.
About 38 seconds in and at about 3:55 he begins a rip and then backs the
wood back out with his hand beside the blade in a near full up position.
At about 4:20 his BS guard/upper guides should be much closer to the work.
On 1/16/2015 11:14 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 1:02:03 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>>> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
>>
>> It's well done but not what I'd want.
>>
>> I think I may put some casters on mine that engage via a quick
>> adjustment ring and disengage with same. With the ring large
>> enough to get good leverage but not so big to get in the way.
>>
>> I haven't seen anything off the shelf. But I'm still looking
>> around.
>
> I use this on my table saw:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/DELTA-50-345-Universal-Mobile-Included/dp/B0000223CL/ref=lp_552520_1_2?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1421428042&sr=1-2
>
> I think I would prefer something with multiple casters that rotate vs. the 2 fixed and 1 rotating that this base uses. My shop is really small and while pulling the saw straight out from the wall and pushing it back in is fine, angling it is a bear since I basically have to drag the back wheels sideways.
>
I have this under my 700# Sawstop saw. If moves as you like, all
casters swivel. Pricey and made by Sawstop. It is the industrial
mobile base. It has a hydraulic lift pedal that you pump 4~5 times and
the beast floats across the floor. My garage floor is slightly slanted
towards the drive way and if I am not careful the saw will roll out of
the garage on its own. Tap a lever and the saw floats down to the
floor. It is seriously the Cadillac of mobile bases.
http://www.amazon.com/SawStop-MB-IND-000-Mobile-Industrial-Cabinet/dp/B0040GXX1I
My previous Jet cabinet saw was much lighter but was on a tripod style,
2 wheels fixed and one swiveled. I thought it was great but ir required
some maneuvering to get it into a specific place. The Sawstop
Industrial mobile base works so well that I have never longed for the
old stile base.
$300 and for me worth every penny.
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:18:19 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Electric Comet wrote:
>
>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
>> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>
>This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do not see
>anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast moving sharpened
>steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy follows all of the right
>safety measures on those tools. I think the fast motion can/does create an
>illusion that the viewer should watch more than once to be sure to see what
>is really happening, because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are
>in a position to worry "if something went wrong".
At 0:32 and a close up at 0:37, I would certainly be using a push
stick. I keep one on top of the fence so I can grab it when I find
myself getting anywhere close. I don't believe in reaching so my
parts on the opposite side of the sharp thing.
On 1/15/2015 10:08 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:18:19 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>>>>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>>>>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his
>>>>> fingers were in a position where if something went wrong it might
>>>>> be bad.
>>>>
>>>> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do
>>>> not see anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast
>>>> moving sharpened steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy
>>>> follows all of the right safety measures on those tools. I think
>>>> the fast motion can/does create an illusion that the viewer should
>>>> watch more than once to be sure to see what is really happening,
>>>> because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are in a position
>>>> to worry "if something went wrong".
>>>
>>> At 0:32 and a close up at 0:37, I would certainly be using a push
>>> stick. I keep one on top of the fence so I can grab it when I find
>>> myself getting anywhere close. I don't believe in reaching so my
>>> parts on the opposite side of the sharp thing.
>>
>> At both of those time marks in the provided link, he is scribing with
>> a tri-square. What is so dangerous in that?
>
> It strikes me that some of us may be responding to different links. Here is
> the link that was originally provided, and upon which I had based all of my
> comments.
>
So Mike did you not see the "4" links in the original post? It is in
the last one that the excitement begins.
In rec.woodworking, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
> filing and sanding.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
Interesting, but I would have preferred to see the final product before
he began. Unlike you, I wasn't sure how this was going to work.
> Ok, lets add this too.... A small walnut stool with very interesting
> joinery.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
That reminds me of the way wooden puzzles fit together. I bought _Puzzle
Craft_ by Stewart T. Coffin years ago (from him in person), but I don't
have the skills yet to actually make a good one. I'll say this: watching
these youtube videos of how other people solve these problems is helping
me learn.
Elijah
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generally pretty good at assembling 3-D puzzles
On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 11:15:01 AM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
=20
> I use this on my table saw:
>=20
> http://www.amazon.com/DELTA-50-345-Universal-Mobile-Included/dp/B0000223C=
L/ref=3Dlp_552520_1_2?s=3Dpower-hand-tools&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1421428042&sr=3D=
1-2
>=20
> I think I would prefer something with multiple casters that rotate vs. th=
e 2 fixed and 1 rotating that this base uses.=20
Right.... see below.
> My shop is really small and while pulling the saw straight out from the w=
all and pushing it back in is fine, angling it is a bear since I basically =
have to drag the back wheels sideways.
I wrestle with mine, similarly. I have the Delta mobile base on both my sa=
ws. My wooden shop floor is not perfectly level and the rubber bumpers/fee=
t corners, near the swivel caster, often drag the floor. Those rubber bum=
pers have about 1/8" (or less?) clearance from the floor. =20
The areas, where I have the saws, was once the bathroom and adjacent kitche=
n of the house (interior walls removed), and the floor levels of the two ar=
eas/rooms are not the same. This unevenness also affects the outfeed table=
s and side tables (both are shimmed) relative to the saws' tops. Whenever =
I have moved the saws, I also performed leveling gymnastics to get everthin=
g back in line.
Sonny
On 1/15/2015 10:21 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> Several years back Bridge City Tools manufactured and sold a Kerf
>> Maker, a dandy tool for cutting dado's and grooves perfect in width
>> with undersized blades and router bits. I own one and it worked
>> extremely well for cutting 3/64" deep half lap joints 1/2" wide with
>> a 3/8" wide dado set.
>>
>> This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
>> filing and sanding.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
>
> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>
>
>
>
That is true, there are some unsafe moves, we all make them. It was his
skill level and the quality of the project that I was more interested
in, and the speed at which he handles that sand paper. ;~)
He seems young, somewhat naive, and hopefully he will have a close call
and reevaluates his methods before the inevitable happens.
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> Several years back Bridge City Tools manufactured and sold a Kerf
> Maker, a dandy tool for cutting dado's and grooves perfect in width
> with undersized blades and router bits. I own one and it worked
> extremely well for cutting 3/64" deep half lap joints 1/2" wide with
> a 3/8" wide dado set.
>
> This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
> filing and sanding.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
On 1/15/15 10:21 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> Several years back Bridge City Tools manufactured and sold a Kerf
>> Maker, a dandy tool for cutting dado's and grooves perfect in width
>> with undersized blades and router bits. I own one and it worked
>> extremely well for cutting 3/64" deep half lap joints 1/2" wide with
>> a 3/8" wide dado set.
>>
>> This guy builds one and may have had too much coffee before he began
>> filing and sanding.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
>
> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>
I think it's the fast-motion.
I don't see anything in the video that looks too dangerous.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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http://mikedrums.com
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Electric Comet wrote:
> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do not see
anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast moving sharpened
steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy follows all of the right
safety measures on those tools. I think the fast motion can/does create an
illusion that the viewer should watch more than once to be sure to see what
is really happening, because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are
in a position to worry "if something went wrong".
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Sonny wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 6:14:23 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>
>> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
> I like it, too. I have an 8' bench that could use some better mobilization. I might try to rework/rebuild the base, somehow, with what he's demonstrated.
>
> Sonny
That guy is good. Fast too! I'm not sure why he's got the vehicles in
there?
[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:18:19 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>
>>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
>>> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>>
>> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do
>> not see anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast
>> moving sharpened steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy
>> follows all of the right safety measures on those tools. I think
>> the fast motion can/does create an illusion that the viewer should
>> watch more than once to be sure to see what is really happening,
>> because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are in a position
>> to worry "if something went wrong".
>
> At 0:32 and a close up at 0:37, I would certainly be using a push
> stick. I keep one on top of the fence so I can grab it when I find
> myself getting anywhere close. I don't believe in reaching so my
> parts on the opposite side of the sharp thing.
At both of those time marks in the provided link, he is scribing with a
tri-square. What is so dangerous in that?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Mike Marlow wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:18:19 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>>
>>>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>>>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>>>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his
>>>> fingers were in a position where if something went wrong it might
>>>> be bad.
>>>
>>> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do
>>> not see anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast
>>> moving sharpened steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy
>>> follows all of the right safety measures on those tools. I think
>>> the fast motion can/does create an illusion that the viewer should
>>> watch more than once to be sure to see what is really happening,
>>> because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are in a position
>>> to worry "if something went wrong".
>>
>> At 0:32 and a close up at 0:37, I would certainly be using a push
>> stick. I keep one on top of the fence so I can grab it when I find
>> myself getting anywhere close. I don't believe in reaching so my
>> parts on the opposite side of the sharp thing.
>
> At both of those time marks in the provided link, he is scribing with
> a tri-square. What is so dangerous in that?
It strikes me that some of us may be responding to different links. Here is
the link that was originally provided, and upon which I had based all of my
comments.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
It's well done but not what I'd want.
I think I may put some casters on mine that engage via a quick
adjustment ring and disengage with same. With the ring large
enough to get good leverage but not so big to get in the way.
I haven't seen anything off the shelf. But I'm still looking
around.
Mike Marlow wrote:
This time with the link...
>
> It strikes me that some of us may be responding to different links. Here
> is the link that was originally provided, and upon which I had
> based all of my comments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsfOWa_TFR8#t=198
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 4:14:16 PM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>
>>> The end product is nice. But those fingers so close to fast moving
>>> sharpened steel uncomfortable to watch. Maybe it's the fast-motion
>>> of the videos but there seemed to be too many times when his fingers
>>> were in a position where if something went wrong it might be bad.
>>
>> This must be my week for not seeing things, because once again, I do
>> not see anything in that video that shows fingers so clos to fast
>> moving sharpened steel. I've now watched it twice and they guy
>> follows all of the right safety measures on those tools. I think
>> the fast motion can/does create an illusion that the viewer should
>> watch more than once to be sure to see what is really happening,
>> because I just don't see anywhere that his fingers are in a position
>> to worry "if something went wrong".
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Mike-
>> [email protected]
>
> Take a look at this video starting at about 1:50.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa6cYgxLMkE
>
> He is seen test fitting a joint on top of his sled with the blade
> still spinning. Call me chicken, but I would be a bit farther from
> the blade than he is, especially if I was trying to fit a complex
> joint together.
Ok - I'll call you a chicken on this one. I find it perfectly safe, but
that's probably just a difference in what we each view as safe.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:14:57 -0800 (PST)
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think I would prefer something with multiple casters that rotate
> vs. the 2 fixed and 1 rotating that this base uses. My shop is really
> small and while pulling the saw straight out from the wall and
> pushing it back in is fine, angling it is a bear since I basically
> have to drag the back wheels sideways.
my saw's that way too but I keep the saw in the middle of the shop now.
So far that works.
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:31:51 -0600
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> My previous Jet cabinet saw was much lighter but was on a tripod
> style, 2 wheels fixed and one swiveled. I thought it was great but
> ir required some maneuvering to get it into a specific place. The
> Sawstop Industrial mobile base works so well that I have never longed
> for the old stile base.
Mine's the tripod style. But I decided I don't really need to move
it much. But if so it's definitely more work than full swivel.
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:43:39 -0600
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> On 1/15/2015 11:59 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:13:15 -0600
> > Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> >
> >> And I really like how he made a stationary work bench, mobile.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpVr4nwt9g
> >
> > It's well done but not what I'd want.
> >
> > I think I may put some casters on mine that engage via a quick
> > adjustment ring and disengage with same. With the ring large
> > enough to get good leverage but not so big to get in the way.
> >
> > I haven't seen anything off the shelf. But I'm still looking
> > around.
> >
> >
> >
> Here are a couple more ideas, the first involves needing storage for
> the wheels unless you simply permanently attached them at the top
> with hinges.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMmQH0msW4
all I saw was a beautiful chevy and I wanted to see more of the GTO.
was there a workbench in there
>
>
> Or really simple but involves a bit of lifting.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF7EgoYJAqc
This one's the best. occam's razor applied correctly
will provide good "inspiration"
>
>
> Same principal but a bet more refined.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HENMh1FWtj0
Ok, but seemed to suffer complexification.