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sawdustmaker

26/10/2014 4:29 PM

bandsaw blade guide adjustment

Still fine tuning / adjusting my new 1412 bandsaw. I assume the ceramic
blade guides are supposed to be parallel to the blade. The back of the
upper rear guide is ~.025" away from the blade when the front of the guide
is touching the blade.
Is there a way apart from filing the entire guide block to get the guide
parallel to the blade? Or is it ok to have only the front part of the guide
adjusted properly?

Another rookie question: Are the ceramic guides better than ball bearing
guides?


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Ll

Leon

in reply to sawdustmaker on 26/10/2014 4:29 PM

26/10/2014 12:25 PM

On 10/26/2014 11:29 AM, sawdustmaker wrote:
> Still fine tuning / adjusting my new 1412 bandsaw. I assume the ceramic
> blade guides are supposed to be parallel to the blade. The back of the
> upper rear guide is ~.025" away from the blade when the front of the guide
> is touching the blade.

The guides are not perfect, Until you get the feel of these guides you
can wrap a dollar bill around the blade and snug the guides up to bill.

I now typically just give them a light push up to the blade and give the
blade a spin. If there is resistance loosen one side and retighten and
spin the blade again. Repeat until the the blade is not pinched.





> Is there a way apart from filing the entire guide block to get the guide
> parallel to the blade? Or is it ok to have only the front part of the guide
> adjusted properly?

It is OK if the whole ceramic piece does not touch. I went through this
and found that I was way over thinking things. A rep once demonstrated
to me that with a good band saw you do not need guides at all.
>
> Another rookie question: Are the ceramic guides better than ball bearing
> guides?

Absolutely!!!! The ceramic guides actually will keep the blade clean as
they scrape the sides of the blade during use. They will not get hot.
They may last for ever. They do not vibrate or make noise with no
moving parts. Ultimately I found, if cutting green or resinous woods,
the ceramic guides don't pound the dust onto the blade. I very shortly
owned a Rikon with bearing guides. I found that if the wood stuck to
the blade the band saw was very loud from the debris getting caught
between the bearings and the blade. Eventually the blade and bearings
became caked with debris.

I did a lot of research between the Rikon and the Laguna purchase.
Have you watched the Laguna video concerning their ceramic guides?

Check these Laguna video's out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8ar94wKk8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8VeUpeZEqo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AAssUKnxSg

FWIW I immediately removed the clear guards on the guides. I did not
see much point to their existence.





dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to sawdustmaker on 26/10/2014 4:29 PM

27/10/2014 6:54 AM

"sawdustmaker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Still fine tuning / adjusting my new 1412 bandsaw. I assume the ceramic
> blade guides are supposed to be parallel to the blade. The back of the
> upper rear guide is ~.025" away from the blade when the front of the
> guide
> is touching the blade.
> Is there a way apart from filing the entire guide block to get the guide
> parallel to the blade? Or is it ok to have only the front part of the
> guide adjusted properly?

Surely, there is a way to pivot the guides horizontally (as a unit) and -
after pivoting - to adjust them laterally to the blade.

> Another rookie question: Are the ceramic guides better than ball bearing
> guides?

I have no idea, I've never used either. I made mine from lignum vitae.

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Brewster

in reply to sawdustmaker on 26/10/2014 4:29 PM

01/11/2014 8:53 AM

On 10/27/14, 4:54 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> "sawdustmaker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Still fine tuning / adjusting my new 1412 bandsaw. I assume the ceramic
>> blade guides are supposed to be parallel to the blade. The back of the
>> upper rear guide is ~.025" away from the blade when the front of the
>> guide
>> is touching the blade.
>> Is there a way apart from filing the entire guide block to get the guide
>> parallel to the blade? Or is it ok to have only the front part of the
>> guide adjusted properly?
>
> Surely, there is a way to pivot the guides horizontally (as a unit) and
> - after pivoting - to adjust them laterally to the blade.
>
>> Another rookie question: Are the ceramic guides better than ball bearing
>> guides?
>
> I have no idea, I've never used either. I made mine from lignum vitae.
>

I have the Carter ball bearing guides which was a nice upgrade from the
original Euro style. Nice thing is they adjust on every axis (except
pitch, which isn't really needed). No problems with gunk buildup 95% of
the time, but when it does happen it can be very annoying. At this point
the best fix I have is to use a razor blade (as a scraper) on the
bearings, blade, and tires.

The cost of the "upgrade" to ceramic is a bit steep for me to seriously
consider right now ($200+) but I fully believe the ceramics have it all
over the bearing guides, including the added clearance of almost an
extra inch of resaw height.

-BR


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