I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my family.
That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so that
when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops up
in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
re-create this feature.
Ed Ahern
"Ed Ahern" <eahernisnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
> I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
> That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so
that
> when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops
up
> in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
> re-create this feature.
The easiest way would probably be to use the same HTML you'd use on a
website. One doesn't need to be online to use HTML, it can be run natively
on a computer. You need an HTML editor. Dreamweaver would certainly be
overkill, but there's a number of smaller shareware HTML editors that you
can use. Do a Google search for "html editor". If you're completely new to
hypertext markup language, then you need a friend to help you out.
"Ed Ahern" <eahernisnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:R5GdnfMG67w3r6nVnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
family.
> That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so
that
> when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops
up
> in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
> re-create this feature.
>
> Ed Ahern
>
>
You need to post on a photo newsgroup. We are woodworkers. We could tell you
how to build a cabinet to hold your CDs, but that's about it.
Charley
Ed Ahern coughed up some electrons that declared:
> I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
> family. That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?)
> them so that when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description
> (who's who) pops up in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What
> can I do (use) to re-create this feature.
>
> Ed Ahern
The XHTML code to do this on some browsers is:
<html>
<body>
<img
title="Hover tooltip text here"
src="/vol/www/www.dionic.net/html/photos/images/1997-latvia-03-07-small.jpg"
/>
</body>
</html>
'title' does the magic. Just fix src="..." with a valid path to an image
file...
It works with firefox 2, have not tried it with IE or Opera. If it fails for
you, you might be back to the javascript option Doug and PCPaul mentioned.
HTH
Tim
On May 21, 10:28=A0pm, "Max" <thesameol...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "jo4hn" <jo...@mahalo.charter.net> wrote in message
>
> news:7bWdneYYps6LNKnVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@supernews.com...
>
> > Max wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> >>> been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my
> >>> ear.
>
> >> Computer knowledge has yet to make it *into* my ear.
> >> My daughter had to show me how to turn one on.
>
> >> Max =A0:-(
> > Get real close to the monitor, purse your lips, and whisper "I love
> > you". =A0Turns 'em on every time.
>
> LOL. =A0I'll try it.
>
> Max
I'm still trying to get the image out of my head....I'm going to need
some brain bleach.
Don't say anything, Max, but he's not well.
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
=2E
ROTF
On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:44:37 -0400, "Ed Ahern"
<eahernisnot@comcast.net> wrote:
>I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my family.
>That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so that
>when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops up
>in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
>re-create this feature.
>
>Ed Ahern
In a Windows folder Right Click on the picture, properties and the
dialog box pops up.
Mark
Max wrote:
>
[snip]
>> been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my ear.
>
> Computer knowledge has yet to make it *into* my ear.
> My daughter had to show me how to turn one on.
>
> Max :-(
Get real close to the monitor, purse your lips, and whisper "I love
you". Turns 'em on every time.
On May 21, 11:31=A0am, "Charley" <cl...@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> "Ed Ahern" <eahernis...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:R5GdnfMG67w3r6nVnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
> family.
> > That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so
> that
> > when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops=
> up
> > in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
> > re-create this feature.
>
> > Ed Ahern
>
> You need to post on a photo newsgroup. We are woodworkers. We could tell y=
ou
> how to build a cabinet to hold your CDs, but that's about it.
>
We could also assist in suggestions how to ground a dust collector.
PCPaul <urd3@bitrot.co.uk> writes:
> Pointy sticks are well supported too.
>
> What you need for the tooltip tags you describe is probably Javascript -
> but it depends how into designing web pages you are.
Is a tooltip a pointy stick?
Actually - It's an ALT tag to a photo in a HTML file.
Example:
<img src="yourphoto.jpg" alt="A picture of the wife and kids" />
As for doing an entire photo album, I don't know of a tool. I would
write a script myself. But you still have to label each one.
And you probably need a thumbnail photo pointing to a full photo.
If I understand you correctly, you want to label your photos so other
people can bring up any details you add to them. This is similar to
Id(x) (ID3v2, ID4, etc) tags used for audio files. The tag stays
with/inside of the file and gets passed along when you send it. The
contents of a tag is called Metadata. Metadata is a key / value pair
that describes an object like a picture, video, etc. While Id(x) tags
are strictly designed for audio, photos have equivalents such as EXIF,
IPTC IIM and XMP. I've added a couple of links to help you understand
the standards but I'll give you a quick overview.
EXIF is added to a photo by your camera. Not all cameras support it.
EXIF includes things like aperture, f-stop, shutter speed, date/time
and
so on. Things that your camera knows. EXIF doesn't know you're
taking
a photo of Uncle Joe.
IPTC IIM was created for the international press corps. Its purpose
is
to label photos so they can catalog / search them for news stories.
The
scope of IPTC IIM is limited because it was designed for the world of
publishing. Using IPTC IIM, you could add metadata such as: Location:
China Town, San Francisco.
XMP is a newer but well established standard that addresses the needs
of
everyone. That includes you. Adobe created XMP and made it an open
standard. They also created an SDK / library and offer that for free.
XMP allows you to add any metadata that you want to a photo or
technically any file. You could add metadata such as: People: Uncle
Joe, Granny Jones and Billy Bob or: Location: Uncle Joe's farm in
Wichita Kansas.
The downside with any of these standards is that not all software
supports them. Yet. XMP is catching on quickly and I'm fairly sure
that every competitive photo management product will support it in the
near future. Your best bet is to get a product that supports XMP and
use it to tag all of your photos. Then tell the family to use it.
Windows Vista supports XMP (or is supposed to according to MS) through
its various methods of working with photos. Linux either supports it
via Nautilus (file explorer) or will in the near future. Google's
Picasa product is in the same boat as are most manufacturers of photo
management software. I would recommend Picasa after they get XMP
support completed. It's a good product and it's free.
As far as viewing XMP metadata on a webpage, you'd have to DAGS for
some
JavaScript to pull out the metadata and display it on the page. I
don't
think your original question was about web sites anyway. I would
personally look for or make a python library to manage XMP metadata
and
make my own website with a framework like Django. Doing a tooltip
would
require a bit of JavaScript and possibly AJAX if you wanted to pull
back
all of the XMP data. It just depends on how many images per page, how
much metadata is in the file and so on...
This link has a good summary of photo tagging:
http://www.rideau-info.com/photos/labelling.html
This link pertains to open source support but has some good info about
XMP: http://www.linux.com/feature/61029
"Doug Winterburn" wrote
> Max wrote:
>>
>> "Doug Winterburn" wrote
>>> http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onmouseover.asp
>>
>> Well, hell, that clears it right up. How easy can it get?
>> Yeah, right.
>>
>> Max (computer illiterate)
>
> Well, I managed to teach myself this javascript mouse stuff using
> online tutorials for a golf website I put together. I'm not computer
> illiterate (having spent 38 years as a software developer), but I've
> been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my
> ear.
Computer knowledge has yet to make it *into* my ear.
My daughter had to show me how to turn one on.
Max :-(
On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:19:25 -0700, Robatoy wrote:
> On May 21, 11:31Â am, "Charley" <cl...@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>> "Ed Ahern" <eahernis...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:R5GdnfMG67w3r6nVnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> > I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
>> family.
>> > That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them
>> > so
>> that
>> > when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who)
>> > pops
>> up
>> > in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use)
>> > to re-create this feature.
>>
>> > Ed Ahern
>>
>> You need to post on a photo newsgroup. We are woodworkers. We could
>> tell you how to build a cabinet to hold your CDs, but that's about it.
>>
>>
> We could also assist in suggestions how to ground a dust collector.
Pointy sticks are well supported too.
What you need for the tooltip tags you describe is probably Javascript -
but it depends how into designing web pages you are.
There are also applications out there to write your web pages for you
which almost certianly will do this. Look at this free (but registration
required) one for instance: <http://www.vicman.net/webalbum/>
Max wrote:
>
> "Doug Winterburn" <dlwinterburn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Oe_Yj.123066$Ft5.93768@newsfe15.lga...
>> Ed Ahern wrote:
>>> I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
>>> family.
>>> That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them
>>> so that
>>> when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who)
>>> pops up
>>> in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
>>> re-create this feature.
>>>
>>> Ed Ahern
>>>
>>>
>> Google on "javascript onmouseover". The first link is:
>>
>> http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onmouseover.asp
>
> Well, hell, that clears it right up. How easy can it get?
> Yeah, right.
>
> Max (computer illiterate)
Well, I managed to teach myself this javascript mouse stuff using online
tutorials for a golf website I put together. I'm not computer
illiterate (having spent 38 years as a software developer), but I've
been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my ear.
Ed Ahern wrote:
> I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my family.
> That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so that
> when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops up
> in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
> re-create this feature.
>
> Ed Ahern
>
>
Google on "javascript onmouseover". The first link is:
http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onmouseover.asp
"Robatoy" <Counterfitter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:82501d7a-9606-4fc4-9d2b-d0fe5317d29f@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On May 21, 11:31 am, "Charley" <cl...@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> "Ed Ahern" <eahernis...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:R5GdnfMG67w3r6nVnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
> family.
> > That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them
> > so
> that
> > when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who)
> > pops
> up
> > in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use)
> > to
> > re-create this feature.
>
> > Ed Ahern
>
> You need to post on a photo newsgroup. We are woodworkers. We could
> tell you
> how to build a cabinet to hold your CDs, but that's about it.
>
>We could also assist in suggestions how to ground a dust collector.
Or who you should vote for.
"Doug Winterburn" <dlwinterburn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Oe_Yj.123066$Ft5.93768@newsfe15.lga...
> Ed Ahern wrote:
>> I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
>> family.
>> That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them
>> so that
>> when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who)
>> pops up
>> in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use)
>> to
>> re-create this feature.
>>
>> Ed Ahern
>>
>>
> Google on "javascript onmouseover". The first link is:
>
> http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onmouseover.asp
Well, hell, that clears it right up. How easy can it get?
Yeah, right.
Max (computer illiterate)
I know this is a woodworking forum. I also know there are quite a few
computer literate folks who monitor this group.
Thank you for your advise, I'll let you know how it turns out
Ed Ahern
P.S. Who should I vote for?
"Tim S" <ts@dionic.net> wrote in message
news:4834847a$0$652$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> Ed Ahern coughed up some electrons that declared:
>
> > I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
> > family. That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?)
> > them so that when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description
> > (who's who) pops up in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What
> > can I do (use) to re-create this feature.
> >
> > Ed Ahern
>
> The XHTML code to do this on some browsers is:
>
>
>
> <html>
> <body>
>
> <img
> title="Hover tooltip text here"
>
src="/vol/www/www.dionic.net/html/photos/images/1997-latvia-03-07-small.jpg"
> />
>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> 'title' does the magic. Just fix src="..." with a valid path to an image
> file...
>
> It works with firefox 2, have not tried it with IE or Opera. If it fails
for
> you, you might be back to the javascript option Doug and PCPaul mentioned.
>
> HTH
>
> Tim
On 21 May 2008 17:46:58 -0400, Maxwell Lol <nospam@com.invalid> wrote:
>PCPaul <urd3@bitrot.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Pointy sticks are well supported too.
>>
>> What you need for the tooltip tags you describe is probably Javascript -
>> but it depends how into designing web pages you are.
>
>Is a tooltip a pointy stick?
>
>Actually - It's an ALT tag to a photo in a HTML file.
>Example:
>
><img src="yourphoto.jpg" alt="A picture of the wife and kids" />
No. <alt> tags used to do that back in the "4" versions (of Netscape,
anyway). They no longer do, however, as their purpose is to supplement
graphics in text only browsers. The correct tag is <title> as was
mentioned elsewhere. And it's not XHTML (as mentioned elsewhere), it's
just plain old HTML. And java is not required either (as suggested
elsewhere). And a special HTML editor is not needed (as mentioned
elsewhere). Any old text editor can be used, even Notepad (although
there are file size limitations with Notepad).
I put <alt>s and <title>s (generally the same text in both) on every
single graphic image on every single website I do. I also put <title>s
on most (eventually all) of my hyperlinks. It's a very useful
technique.
The tag which causes an image to be displayed is <img> That by itself
won't do anything, so you have to identify the image to display (the
source, if you will) and that parameter is "src" with an argument of
the path/filename. the <alt> and <title> can be either before or after
the "src". Thus a sample HTML command might be
<img src="images/big-boobs.jpg" title="wowza!" alt="em R biguns">
but it could just as easily be:
<img title="wowza!" alt="em R biguns" src="images/big-boobs.jpg">
or:
<img alt="wowza!" src="images/big-boobs.jpg" title="em R biguns">
The arguments for each parameter should be surrounded by quotes as
above. It'll work without them (in HTML, for now) but if XHTML becomes
the norm, it's required, so why not start good practices now.
There, more than you ever wanted to know about HTML.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
http://www.normstools.com
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
"jo4hn" <jo4hn@mahalo.charter.net> wrote in message
news:7bWdneYYps6LNKnVnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@supernews.com...
> Max wrote:
>>
> [snip]
>
>>> been retired for seven years and most of my knowledge fell out of my
>>> ear.
>>
>> Computer knowledge has yet to make it *into* my ear.
>> My daughter had to show me how to turn one on.
>>
>> Max :-(
> Get real close to the monitor, purse your lips, and whisper "I love
> you". Turns 'em on every time.
LOL. I'll try it.
Max
"Ed Ahern" <eahernisnot@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:R5GdnfMG67w3r6nVnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I need to scan hundreds of pictures onto a CD for distribution to my
>family.
> That is not a problem. The problem comes in labeling (tagging?) them so
> that
> when a mouse is hovered over the picture, a description (who's who) pops
> up
> in a box. I see this all the time on web sites. What can I do (use) to
> re-create this feature.
>
> Ed Ahern
>
>
Consult a book on HTML code. There is a way to do that; in fact my old long
gone website had that capability.
Jim