On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 1:42:47 PM UTC-4, G Ross wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:35:24 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> >> On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> >> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
> >> >>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Has anyone tried this thing?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
> >> >> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
> >> >> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
> >> >
> >> > I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
> >> You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
> >
> > I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it cut down.
> > Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the surface which made
> > my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.
> >
> > I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet of the stump,
> > filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locust trees sprouting
> > across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you could see a 20' line
> > of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard to remove the roots
> > that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got them all.
> >
> We don't have locust here, but bradford pear does the same thing.
> What prevents it is to drill several 1" holes about 1-2 inches from
> the sides. Drill them about 4 inches deep and fill with straight
> roundup. It even works after the roots have sprouted up. I try to
> drill the holes above where a root comes out, but all the holes are in
> the flat stump. Does not work so well on holly.
>
> --
> GW Ross
From the sides of what? The stump was gone. It was the roots that were
buried a few inches below ground level and running 20'-30' out from where
the stump used to be that were sprouting the little trees.
On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 12:41:24 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:54:53 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:35:24 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> >> On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> >> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
> >> >>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Has anyone tried this thing?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
> >> >> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
> >> >> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
> >> >
> >> > I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
> >> You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
> >
> >I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it cut down.
> >Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the surface which made
> >my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.
> >
> >I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet of the stump,
> >filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locust trees sprouting
> >across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you could see a 20' line
> >of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard to remove the roots
> >that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got them all.
>
> That's why you use RoundUp on plants *before* you cut them off/out/up.
Would RoundUp have killed the 20+ 2"-4" diameter roots that ran 20'-30'
out from where the stump was?
If so, how much would it have taken and how long before they rotted enough
for me to have a smooth yard again?
On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:35:24 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
> >>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone tried this thing?
> >>>
> >>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
> >> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
> >>
> >> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
> >> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
> >
> > I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
> >
>
> It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
> You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it cut down.
Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the surface which made
my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.
I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet of the stump,
filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locust trees sprouting
across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you could see a 20' line
of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard to remove the roots
that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got them all.
On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 5:02:10 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
>=20
> Aren't you in the San Antonio area, i.e., somewhat dry area? The rootba=
ll shouldn't rot so fast, that you can't backfill any depression gradually,=
as it depresses gradually. Each year, when you re-pot your wife's flower =
pots, just dump the old soil in the depression... that should do it.
>=20
I went to college in San Marcos, but I'm a Boston native and live NW of Bos=
ton. Definitely wetter than SA, that's for sure. I suspect I won't know=
it...until I know it. Also, all the other beeches that sprout all around =
this thing continue to prove at least a portion of the root ball's life! =
The trunk was almost 4 feet around at its widest point... it'll take more t=
han a few flower pots, if/when it goes. Somewhere in the range of 10 yards =
should be about right. Hopefully I won't see it happen for about 15-20 ye=
ars. =20
On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 6:54:58 AM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it=
cut down.
> Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the sur=
face which made
> my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.=20
>=20
> I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet=
of the stump,
> filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locu=
st trees sprouting
> across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you coul=
d see a 20' line=20
> of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard t=
o remove the roots
> that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got the=
m all.
DD-- I have a copper beech that sounds very similar. Unfortunately, bugs =
got to this huge, beautiful, 100 year old beast that used to hang over my d=
riveway. That is, it used to until the day one tree doctor looked at me in =
all seriousness and asked, "Do you like your truck?" We cut it down within=
a week. (I may be asking some of you guys for some portable sawmill advic=
e here soon...) =20
Anyway, that bumpy shallow-rooted sprout network that's spider-web-ing all =
over my yard, I think, now holds an additional threat: the giant sinkhole =
that will come once the root ball rots out. For exactly that reason, I hav=
e resisted the temptation of dousing the remaining stump with the Bayer Adv=
anced Brush & stump product. =20
Anyone want to comment on the threat or lack thereof? Am I over-concerned?=
Thanks.=20
On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
> > We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
> >
> > Has anyone tried this thing?
> >
> > http://www.theuprooter.com/
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
>
> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
>
> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:19:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 12:41:24 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:54:53 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:35:24 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> >> On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >> >> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >> >>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Has anyone tried this thing?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
>> >> >> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
>> >> >> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
>> >> You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
>> >
>> >I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it cut down.
>> >Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the surface which made
>> >my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.
>> >
>> >I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet of the stump,
>> >filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locust trees sprouting
>> >across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you could see a 20' line
>> >of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard to remove the roots
>> >that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got them all.
>>
>> That's why you use RoundUp on plants *before* you cut them off/out/up.
>
>Would RoundUp have killed the 20+ 2"-4" diameter roots that ran 20'-30'
>out from where the stump was?
>
>If so, how much would it have taken and how long before they rotted enough
>for me to have a smooth yard again?
You drill a 3/8" hole about an inch deep within about an inch of the
camber every 6 inches, fill with concentrate. wait a month grind out
the stump.
On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried this thing?
>>>
>>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>>
>> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
>> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
>>
>> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
>> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
>
> I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
>
It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 9:54:23 AM UTC-5, Steve wrote:
> Copper Beech tree....
> Anyway, that bumpy shallow-rooted sprout network that's spider-web-ing al=
l over my yard, I think, now holds an additional threat: the giant sinkhol=
e that will come once the root ball rots out.=20
>=20
> Anyone want to comment on the threat or lack thereof? Am I over-concerne=
d? Thanks.
Aren't you in the San Antonio area, i.e., somewhat dry area? The rootball=
shouldn't rot so fast, that you can't backfill any depression gradually, a=
s it depresses gradually. Each year, when you re-pot your wife's flower po=
ts, just dump the old soil in the depression... that should do it.
The problem I had with a downed tree, in my, then, neighbor's yard, the roo=
ts had compromised a neighborhood drainage line. Once the roots rotted, =
the sinkhole erosion, through the pipe, was hard to stop. Had to call in =
the city to plug the end on the drain at the coulee (adjacent property, whi=
ch is now my woodshop's lot). Once the line was plugged, I back filled th=
e depression/hole. I had 10 yds, I think it was, of dirt hauled in. It wa=
s later discovered, the 2 adjacent lots, behind me, had underground erosion=
(fairly large cavities), also.
When the coulee was subsequently concreted, other cavities were discovered =
along the coulee on the back lots. This whole area use to be a cow pastur=
e, with a barnyard, and there was old fencing and other junk buried on thos=
e back lots.
Sonny
On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
>
> Has anyone tried this thing?
>
> http://www.theuprooter.com/
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 7:22:59 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
"
>
> The tree that totaled my van looked healthy and beautiful...until it did
> this:
>
> https://i.imgur.com/aqbXjIu.jpg
>
Yikes! Yes It's amazing how heavy they are, despite the hollow/bug damage. I hired a moving team to stack some of the logs for me (after almost tearing my shoulder trying to do it myself). These are the logs I'll have milled someday.
"What do you need moved?" the online questionnaire asked.
I replied, "Future Furniture!"
I felt better when I saw these guys struggling with the job, too, and I had to chip in to help, but we got it done for a decent cost and with no further harm to limbs-- mine, theirs or the tree's.
On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 10:54:23 AM UTC-4, Steve wrote:
> On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 6:54:58 AM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had =
it cut down.
> > Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the s=
urface which made
> > my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.=20
> >=20
> > I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 fe=
et of the stump,
> > filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of lo=
cust trees sprouting
> > across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you co=
uld see a 20' line=20
> > of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard=
to remove the roots
> > that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got t=
hem all.
>=20
>=20
> DD-- I have a copper beech that sounds very similar. Unfortunately, bug=
s=20
> got to this huge, beautiful, 100 year old beast that used to hang over my=
=20
> driveway. That is, it used to until the day one tree doctor looked at me=
=20
> in all seriousness and asked, "Do you like your truck?" =20
The tree that totaled my van looked healthy and beautiful...until it did=20
this:
https://i.imgur.com/aqbXjIu.jpg
We were standing in my 2nd floor office watching a micro-burst storm send
leaves and rain flying horizontally past my window. You couldn't see halfwa=
y=20
across the small parking lot. As storm slowly cleared, we noticed that the
the huge tree in the back corner of the lot had come down. It was then that=
=20
my co-worker looked at me and said "Isn't that your van?" The visibility ha=
d
been so bad that we didn't even see the tree come down, just the aftermath.
The healthy looking tree was basically a shell of it's former self. The 4'+
trunk was hollow from the bottom up to the main crotch. It split right down=
=20
the middle and fell at a 90=C2=B0 angle, landing on 2 cars on each side. Mi=
ne took
the largest hit. The large limb hit right in the top corner of the driver's
side, pushing the driver's door back so that it ended up overlapping the=20
slider by about an inch. It then slid down the pillar ending up on the hood=
.
Even after be slowed by the roof and pillar, it came down hard enough that
the bolts on the top of the strut tower punctured the hood.=20
You can "see" the weight of just that one limb by looking at how much the=
=20
driver's tire is depressed. When they lifted the limb off with a front load=
er,=20
the ole' girl bounced right back to level. Alas, at 10 years old and pushin=
g=20
170K miles, I knew she was totaled as soon as the storm cleared.
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:19:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 12:41:24 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:54:53 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:35:24 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> >> On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >> >> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >> >>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Has anyone tried this thing?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
>> >> >> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
>> >> >> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
>> >> You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
>> >
>> >I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it cut down.
>> >Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the surface which made
>> >my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.
>> >
>> >I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet of the stump,
>> >filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locust trees sprouting
>> >across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you could see a 20' line
>> >of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard to remove the roots
>> >that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got them all.
>>
>> That's why you use RoundUp on plants *before* you cut them off/out/up.
>
>Would RoundUp have killed the 20+ 2"-4" diameter roots that ran 20'-30'
>out from where the stump was?
Likely, as long as it was a species that RoundUp is useful for. There
are better products for some species but the principle is the same.
RoundUp kills the plant by screwing up the roots.
>
>If so, how much would it have taken and how long before they rotted enough
>for me to have a smooth yard again?
RoundUp kills the plant. It doesn't dig it up.
"Michael" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
At about 4:30 is the solution! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku6uKLSDT3I
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 03:54:53 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:35:24 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
>> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
>> >>>
>> >>> Has anyone tried this thing?
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
>> >> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
>> >>
>> >> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
>> >> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
>> >
>> > I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
>> >
>>
>> It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
>> You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
>
>I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it cut down.
>Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the surface which made
>my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.
>
>I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet of the stump,
>filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locust trees sprouting
>across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you could see a 20' line
>of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard to remove the roots
>that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got them all.
That's why you use RoundUp on plants *before* you cut them off/out/up.
"Michael" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and
>the buckthorn has won every >year.
>Has anyone tried this thing?
>http://www.theuprooter.com/
>Thanks,
>Mike
I don't know how well it would work on buckthorn, but up here in the Pacific
Northwest we use them to pull Scotch broom and they work a treat. It helps
if the ground is a little wet so that the roots are more likely to come out
instead of breaking off at the surface. We're after eradication since the
broom is an invasive species.
Tom
DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:35:24 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
>> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
>> >>>
>> >>> Has anyone tried this thing?
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
>> >> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
>> >>
>> >> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
>> >> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
>> >
>> > I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
>> >
>>
>> It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
>> You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
>
> I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it cut down.
> Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the surface which made
> my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.
>
> I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet of the stump,
> filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locust trees sprouting
> across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you could see a 20' line
> of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard to remove the roots
> that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got them all.
>
We don't have locust here, but bradford pear does the same thing.
What prevents it is to drill several 1" holes about 1-2 inches from
the sides. Drill them about 4 inches deep and fill with straight
roundup. It even works after the roots have sprouted up. I try to
drill the holes above where a root comes out, but all the holes are in
the flat stump. Does not work so well on holly.
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GW Ross
DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 1:42:47 PM UTC-4, G Ross wrote:
>> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> > On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:35:24 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> >> On 9/10/2017 3:22 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 3:16:04 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >> >> On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >> >>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Has anyone tried this thing?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
>> >> >> much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
>> >> >> ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just use a chainsaw and knock down a bunch and then paint on some Garlon. It's a ton of work, and the buckthorn continues to win. I'm wondering if getting to the roots will help.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It is likely that there is a network of roots that sprout up new growth.
>> >> You may never get all of the roots out if that is the issue.
>> >
>> > I had a locust tree that was severely damaged by an ice storm so I had it cut down.
>> > Locust are notorious for sending out roots that are very close to the surface which made
>> > my yard very bumpy. For that reason I was glad to see it go.
>> >
>> > I pulled the stump myself after cutting all the roots within about 5 feet of the stump,
>> > filled the hole and planted grass. The next spring I had hundreds of locust trees sprouting
>> > across the yard as each root decided to try again. In some areas you could see a 20' line
>> > of tiny locust trees. I ended up tearing up almost my entire front yard to remove the roots
>> > that were just a few inches below the surface. What a PITA, but I got them all.
>> >
>> We don't have locust here, but bradford pear does the same thing.
>> What prevents it is to drill several 1" holes about 1-2 inches from
>> the sides. Drill them about 4 inches deep and fill with straight
>> roundup. It even works after the roots have sprouted up. I try to
>> drill the holes above where a root comes out, but all the holes are in
>> the flat stump. Does not work so well on holly.
>>
>> --
>> GW Ross
>
> From the sides of what? The stump was gone. It was the roots that were
> buried a few inches below ground level and running 20'-30' out from where
> the stump used to be that were sprouting the little trees.
>
The stump. Yes, I realize yours was gone, as apparently was the rest
of your problem. This was just general information for others who
might avoid the problem of the roots sprouting.
--
GW Ross
"tdacon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Michael" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won
>>every >year.
>>Has anyone tried this thing?
>>http://www.theuprooter.com/
>>Thanks,
>>Mike
>
> I don't know how well it would work on buckthorn, but up here in the Pacific Northwest we use them
> to pull Scotch broom and they work a treat. It helps if the ground is a little wet so that the
> roots are more likely to come out instead of breaking off at the surface. We're after eradication
> since the broom is an invasive species.
>
> Tom
>In southern ariz scotch broom is known as desert broom,
same invasive noxious stuff.
The only thing I found to have any effect is to cut the thickest stems off
at right angle where it is about 1/2" or more in thickness.
Drill down the pith of each with a 1/8" bit about 1 to 2 inches depth.
Fill holes with roundup concentrate 47%, undiluted, and cap
with tin foil and rubberband.
Within 2 weeks the entire plant will be dead.
Remove everything above ground.
Have a beer and rejoice, it is forever gone.
This may also work on buckthorn, but I've never tried it.
Art
On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:15:52 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 9/10/2017 2:42 PM, Michael wrote:
>> We have a ton of buckthorn at our place. We're cut and pasted chemicals and the buckthorn has won every year.
>>
>> Has anyone tried this thing?
>>
>> http://www.theuprooter.com/
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
>First thoughts, looks gimmicky. IMHO it does not lift enough to prevent
>much work on your part. You end up with holes in the ground.
>
>I think I would use gas trimmer with a blade to cut off, even with the
>ground, and spray some RoundUp on the fresh cut.
RoundUp first, then cut when dead. RoundUp kills from the roots,
though it's easier to apply to the leaves.