I have a basement room that I want to convert to a wine celler. Im somewhat of a beginner to woodworking, but this seems like it wouldnt be too difficult due to its modularity. I was looking at the products on this link:
http://www.rosehillwinecellars.com/3rsV2/modular_products.php?manufacturer=modularcategory=wine_racks
and I have the following questions 1.COST - the prices here seem quite good, am I going to be saving a considerable or negligable amount of money buying and building myself?
2.EASE - Am I fooling myself to think that the racks on this page are doable by a beginner?
3.TOOLS - what hardware will I need to tackle this project, and what would be helpful, but not totally necessary?
4.PLANS - Ive spent quite a bit of time searching the internet unsuccessfully for plans that approximate racks like these. Ive found several links, but nothing that
is even remotely similar. As a beginner Id need a detailed plan/blueprint (1:1 scale if possible) Anyone have a link?
5.ADVICE - Im open here, whats the best way to go about this project -- should I order one of the racks (F01, for example) and deconstruct duplicate? Since this is a high humidity room, should I use treated/outdoor lumber?
Hi Nomen,
I've recently built enough cellar racking for about 400 cases of wine.
How big is your room? Do you plan to create a passive or mechanically
controlled space? Do you want single bottle racking and bins? I can
send you some photos and this may help you start your plans. It's
possible to save some money building these yourself but I agree with
Guess Who, build them if you like to build.
If you're looking for an address, I've got a funny feeling it would be
a bad idea to post it here! ;-) My wine cellar is seldom locked. I
live in the sticks and we don' get many people comin' round by
axident..... and for them that do, we got a shotgun and a dog with an
attitude problem..... just kidding, but it sounded fun.... :-)
Neil
> I've recently built enough cellar racking for about 400 cases of wine.
> How big is your room? Do you plan to create a passive or mechanically
> controlled space? Do you want single bottle racking and bins? I can
> send you some photos and this may help you start your plans. It's
> possible to save some money building these yourself but I agree with
> Guess Who, build them if you like to build.
Where do you live, and do you lock your wine cellar at night?
Hi Nomen,
I built a small (300+ bottle) rack in our basement about
6-7 years ago. It was very simple and took just a few days,
some glue, a brad nailer (optional but nice) and whatever
wood you care to use. I used cedar because it was cheap
and available.
I bought the cedar at Lowes in 1x8 planks, then ripped them
down to make 3/4 x 3/4 strips. Cut them to the height I wanted
and made a jig so that the horizontal pieces which hold the
bottles were spaced fairly precisely to hold the largest
750ml that I had. SWMBO & I assembled about a dozen of
these "ladder-like" pieces.
Next, I ran some horizontals along the concrete wall and
attached them with concrete screws. Plumbed and screwed the
"ladders" to these, then ran more horizontals across the front
of the entire rack to tie it together.
I also made some racks to hold the "bubbly" and 1.5 liter
bottles. Keeps us well supplied, that's for sure!
In summary, if you have even rough woodworking skills and
some imagination, there is no reason to pay hundreds or
thousands of $ for such a simple project.
I think mine was less than $100 in materials - probably
way less. Occupies about 8x8 feet of wall space. I used that
part of the basement wall which is almost totally below
grade - temperature almost never above 60 deg F.
Lou
In article <[email protected]>, Nomen Nescio
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> http://www.rosehillwinecellars.com/3rsV2/modular_products.php?manufacturer=mod
> ularcategory=wine_racks
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:20:02 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
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One of the slickest wine racks I ever saw had lovely wooden ends.and
black-painted weldmesh for the bottles. Easy, quick and looked OK.
Just FYI.
>I have a basement room that I want to convert to a wine celler. Im somewhat of a beginner to woodworking, but this seems like it wouldnt be too difficult due to its modularity. I was looking at the products on this link:
>
>http://www.rosehillwinecellars.com/3rsV2/modular_products.php?manufacturer=modularcategory=wine_racks
>
>and I have the following questions 1.COST - the prices here seem quite good, am I going to be saving a considerable or negligable amount of money buying and building myself?
>2.EASE - Am I fooling myself to think that the racks on this page are doable by a beginner?
>3.TOOLS - what hardware will I need to tackle this project, and what would be helpful, but not totally necessary?
>4.PLANS - Ive spent quite a bit of time searching the internet unsuccessfully for plans that approximate racks like these. Ive found several links, but nothing that
>is even remotely similar. As a beginner Id need a detailed plan/blueprint (1:1 scale if possible) Anyone have a link?
>5.ADVICE - Im open here, whats the best way to go about this project -- should I order one of the racks (F01, for example) and deconstruct duplicate? Since this is a high humidity room, should I use treated/outdoor lumber?
>
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:20:02 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a basement room that I want to convert to a wine celler. Im somewhat of a beginner to woodworking, but this seems like it wouldnt be too difficult due to its modularity. I was looking at the products on this link:
>
>http://www.rosehillwinecellars.com/3rsV2/modular_products.php?manufacturer=modularcategory=wine_racks
>
>and I have the following questions 1.COST - the prices here seem quite good, am I going to be saving a considerable or negligable amount of money buying and building myself?
You don't build to sae money. Look at the cost of tools, times and
materials. You do it becaue you like to do it. So, do it, or not.
"Nomen Nescio" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> 1.COST - the prices here seem quite good, am I going to be saving a
> considerable or negligable amount of money buying and building myself?
That $50 rack probably can be built for $10.
> 2.EASE - Am I fooling myself to think that the racks on this page are
> doable by a beginner?
> 3.TOOLS - what hardware will I need to tackle this project, and what would
> be helpful, but not totally necessary?
Not all that difficult. What you need to do is rip some lenghts of wood to
make the uprights, rip some to make the cross pieces, then be able to cut
them to lenghth repeatably. NOTE: I said repeatably, not accurately. It
is not a big deal if the length varied a 1/4" on thatdimension as long as
they are all the same. Bottles vary a bit so it is not a big deal.
Tablesaw would be nice for the ripping, can also be used for the cross
cutting to lenght, as can a miter saw. Other saws can work, just not as
easily. I'd glue the cross pieces but reinforce with either a screw or
single nail. Nail or brad gun would be a big help for assembly. To get the
spacing consistent, you use a block as a spacer, not a ruler for each space.
When you pit the last piece in place, then you trim to get the height exact,
not try to get them all even on a given length.
> 4.PLANS - Ive spent quite a bit of time searching the internet
> unsuccessfully for plans that approximate racks like these. Ive found
> several links, but nothing that
> is even remotely similar. As a beginner Id need a detailed plan/blueprint
> (1:1 scale if possible) Anyone have a link?
Best I can do is alother picture of a similar rack, but there are no
dimensions. If you can see one in person, it would be easy to make a simple
sketch and measure dimensions. Doubt you will find a 1:1 scale as it is not
really needed.
> 5.ADVICE - Im open here, whats the best way to go about this project --
> should I order one of the racks (F01, for example) and deconstruct
> duplicate? Since this is a high humidity room, should I use
> treated/outdoor lumber?
Take back part of what I just said. The F01 shows the size of the opening
to be 3 1/2" wide by 3 1/4 high. Now you just need the material thickness.
Cut a board 3 1/4" wide. Put the first horizontal piece in place at the
bottom. lay the board on top of it, then put the next horizontal piece in
place. Secure it. Move the board up and repeat to the top. Be sure the
verticals are square.
All you need is some sort of sealer on the wood, oil, poly, shellac.
Without anything, it may start to rot in 35 years. With a sealer, it can go
maybe 150 years.
Make your own wine? See my web page for some information.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/