A search gives me quite a few hits on "Ecogate" from this group. Hope
my questions below haven't been answered before....
Are there any competitors to Ecogate (http://www.ecogate.com/)? By that
I mean, companies that have tool activated blast gate opening and duct
collection power on/off?
One post said the vibration sensors aren't very good -- use the
toroidal sensors, instead. Hmm. According to Ecogate's web page, the
toroidal sensors only work on machines with motors no larger than 2 HP.
My Unisaw is 3 HP. Does the Unisaw have enough vibration to allow the
vibration sensor to work.
I have a vacuum system to my Unisaw, a 2 HP bandsaw, and a 6 inch Jet
jointer. ANy wods of wisdom on using Ecogate (or their competitor) on
these tools? BTW, my other tools are hooked up to a Fein Turbo II - I
move them around a lot in my tiny shop.
Pat said: "I ahve had the Ecogate for 5 or 6 years and love it."
Pat, do you have the toroidal sensors or the vibration sensors? I'm
wondering if the vibration sensors will work on my smooth Unisaw,
Lahuna bandsaw, and jet jointer. I'm buiding Norm's "New Improved
Router table" and want to hook my dust collection system to it, too.
Thanks Gene and Pat for your responses. It surprises me that more
people in this group haven't used Ecogate (or something similar) since
there are numerous posts about ways to save time. People use
extraordinary means to make woodworking easier and faster but
apparently many still open the desired blast gate, close the others,
turn on the dust collection system, walk over to the tool, turn on the
tool, make the cut, turn the tool off, walk over to the dust collection
system, turn it off, or open another gate, close the one that was open
and so on....
I see elaborate homebuilt router tables, panel saws, and jigs but only
two responses on an automated dust collection system. Hmmm.
"Never Enough Money" <[email protected]> writes:
>Thanks Gene and Pat for your responses. It surprises me that more
>people in this group haven't used Ecogate (or something similar) since
>there are numerous posts about ways to save time. People use
I bought a used Ecogate controller off Ebay, but I haven't had time to
install the ductwork for my dust collector yet. I can't comment on
performance since I haven't used it yet.
I think most hobby woodworkers would rather buy another tool that actually
touches the wood instead for the $450 the Ecogate costs.
Brian Elfert
Never Enough Money wrote:
>
> Thanks Gene and Pat for your responses. It surprises me that more
> people in this group haven't used Ecogate (or something similar) since
> there are numerous posts about ways to save time. People use
> extraordinary means to make woodworking easier and faster but
> apparently many still open the desired blast gate, close the others,
> turn on the dust collection system, walk over to the tool, turn on the
> tool, make the cut, turn the tool off, walk over to the dust collection
> system, turn it off, or open another gate, close the one that was open
> and so on....
>
> I see elaborate homebuilt router tables, panel saws, and jigs but only
> two responses on an automated dust collection system. Hmmm.
I think two factors predominate here...
1. Shop-wide DC isn't very common overall for hobby-type ww'er, and
2. $$$
I have 8 stations, 7 are the vibration sensors and 1 is toroidal for the
router table and other portable tools like sanders on a pegboard topped dust
table. The vibration sensor work on my table saw, which is a heavy duty
German saw. I would guess it would be no problem on a unisaw. I recommend
Ecogate and am very happy that I got it. I put off getting a dust control
system for years. My only regret is that I didn't get it sooner.
This one is not tool activated but is instead blast gate activated. It's
also a fraction of the cost of the Ecogate system.
Gene
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?DeptID=1197&FamilyID=5031
"Never Enough Money" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A search gives me quite a few hits on "Ecogate" from this group. Hope
> my questions below haven't been answered before....
>
> Are there any competitors to Ecogate (http://www.ecogate.com/)? By that
> I mean, companies that have tool activated blast gate opening and duct
> collection power on/off?
>
> One post said the vibration sensors aren't very good -- use the
> toroidal sensors, instead. Hmm. According to Ecogate's web page, the
> toroidal sensors only work on machines with motors no larger than 2 HP.
> My Unisaw is 3 HP. Does the Unisaw have enough vibration to allow the
> vibration sensor to work.
>
> I have a vacuum system to my Unisaw, a 2 HP bandsaw, and a 6 inch Jet
> jointer. ANy wods of wisdom on using Ecogate (or their competitor) on
> these tools? BTW, my other tools are hooked up to a Fein Turbo II - I
> move them around a lot in my tiny shop.
>
"Unquestionably Confused" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> on 6/15/2005 11:06 AM Never Enough Money said the following:
>> Does this remote control the blast gates or jsut the dust collection
>> system? Where does one find such a remote?
>>
>
>
> Whoopsie! Here you go, Woodcraft has them and I was a tad high on the
> price
>
>
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyID=5117
Wow! I'm not sure if I can part with my 88 inch piece of 1X1 maple
I use as my DC remote control.
Blast gates? Even though I have (since 1997) a 2hp JET with twin
intakes I can't remember ever having uncapped the second one. Doesn't
everyone reach under the table saw and then relocate the hose to the
joiner? And, I can't use the TS anyway when I have the portable planer
set up on top of it.
--
"New Wave" Dave In Houston
on 6/15/2005 9:04 AM Duane Bozarth said the following:
>>I see elaborate homebuilt router tables, panel saws, and jigs but only
>>two responses on an automated dust collection system. Hmmm.
>
> I think two factors predominate here...
>
> 1. Shop-wide DC isn't very common overall for hobby-type ww'er, and
Gotta agree although I hope to increase that number by one this summer<g>
> 2. $$$
Automated, perhaps. Remote? Hell, what's $60 or so to control either a
110v or 220v DC? Carry the remote on one of the reel type key chains
and you're good to go.
I don't like that type of key fob transmitter. Far too easy for me to lose.
My transmitter is about 5 times that size and I still lose the damn thing.
--
If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving
"Unquestionably Confused" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> on 6/15/2005 11:06 AM Never Enough Money said the following:
> > Does this remote control the blast gates or jsut the dust collection
> > system? Where does one find such a remote?
> >
>
>
> Whoopsie! Here you go, Woodcraft has them and I was a tad high on the
price
>
>
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyID=5117
>
On 15 Jun 2005 09:06:42 -0700, "Never Enough Money"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Does this remote control the blast gates or jsut the dust collection
>system? Where does one find such a remote?
==============
Before I lost my remote I asked that same question every...
(where do I one find such a remote ?...or where the He** did I lay it
down now?...
Neighbor is an electrician and he hard wired my DC and intalled
8 switches around my shop so I never have to take more then 2-3 steps
to fire the DC up or turn it off... does not work with the blast
gates ... back to square one on those...
Bob G.
on 6/15/2005 11:06 AM Never Enough Money said the following:
> Does this remote control the blast gates or jsut the dust collection
> system? Where does one find such a remote?
>
Whoopsie! Here you go, Woodcraft has them and I was a tad high on the price
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyID=5117
on 6/15/2005 11:06 AM Never Enough Money said the following:
> Does this remote control the blast gates or jsut the dust collection
> system? Where does one find such a remote?
>
If that was directed at my post, the remotes I've seen control ONLY the
DC. Check Rockler's, Woodcraft. I think that's where I've seen them.
I know they're out there and I've seen them within the past month or so
at that price range.