Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> What I'm curious to know is why someone would want to sand shellac.
I noticed that after applying the first coat on raw dry wood, the
surface was not as smooth as when I started. I assume that the first
coat penetrates some (the reason it is used as a sanding sealer) and
that the ethanol raised the grain of the wood some. I sanded lightly
after the first coat with 220 per instructions in Bob Flexner's book.
Shellac has a low melting point so if you use a power sander you need to
go slow enough to avoid heating the surface to the point where it melts
becase that will clog your sandpaper. I used a variable speed random
orbital sander on the lowest speed without applying much pressure. I
didn't sand after the second and third coats and got a smoother glossy
finish. I imagine in some cases you might want to sand after the final
coat with very fine paper if you want to remove some of the gloss, or
get a smoother final surface.
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supposedly easier to sand...
Chris Merrill wrote:
> Sanford wrote:
>
>> e.g., as a sealer coat. But what is the advantage of waxed shellac?
>
>
> One advantage is one less step in the manufacturing process (the dewaxing
> step)...one would think this would result in a lower price, but I've never
> compared them.
>
>> Is it every necessary or benificial to use it? Can I just use waxless
>> shellac for all shellac purposes? Thanks.
>
>
> I don't know of any benefits...I think I remember reading that waxed
> shellac will result in a finish that is _less_ resistant to water damage.
>
Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 8:27pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
says:
supposedly easier to sand...
I'm curious to know where you got your info from.
Jeff Jewitt only says:
"The wax in shellac decreases the finish's resistance to water and
prevents some finishes from bonding to it."
And doesn't say anything about easier to sand.
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/w00060.asp
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
"T." wrote:
> Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 8:27pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> says:
> supposedly easier to sand...
>
> I'm curious to know where you got your info from.
What I'm curious to know is why someone would want to sand shellac.
--
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Buffalo, NY - USA
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Bay Area Dave wrote:
> wow! are you serious????
>
> for an immediate example, i used shellac on my sled. sanded the final
> coat with a few progressively finer grits, applied SCJ wax, and that
> sucker is slicker than snot! glides across the Unisaw like it's on air
> bearings. don't need anything but shellac for that, my friend...
>
> dave
Shellac is my preferred finish. If I decide to rub the finish out I start
with "FFFF" pumice. If you're using sandpaper perhaps you should work on
your application technique.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Bay Area Dave wrote:
> yeah, right, I'm gonna make a BFD out of putting a few coats of shellac
> on a sled. How about I slap it on 3 coats with a chip brush, grab a
> sander the next day, and in about 3 minutes I'm ready to wax it. WTF is
> your problem?
A sander?
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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First:
Bay Area Dave wrote:
all of your responses have been trollish and I'm tired of you as you
aren't even humorous. bye!
And then:
Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 12:52am (EST+5) [email protected] (Nova) wrote:
Thank you.
Now that was humorous.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
"Tail Gunner Dave" (or Recon Troll) trolled...
>
> BTW, you've got WAAY too much time on your hands to be Googling old
> messages. Try to stay with the here and now. The past is so OVER!
Over? Really? Your past defines your future, don't you know? The boy is the
father of the man, no?
Sorry to those I missed, I got a little ill reading this troll's tripe and
gave up after 5 mins:
Jack Novak- all of your responses have been trollish and I'm tired of you as
you
aren't even humorous. bye!
WebsterSteve - bite me!
Wood Butcher - the bozos are at it again. I can tell by who's in the
filtered
messages. Bite me, boys! Will ANY of you EVER grow up?
George - Do you think you could once in a while act civilized instead of so
antagonist?
David F. Eisan - "THIS IS PRECISELY WHY I CAN'T STAND YOU. YOU LIE. EITHER
THAT OR YOU HAVE SELECTIVE READING SKILLS. JERK!"
(and a Special Mention for hypocrisy)- "do you ever sneeze without reporting
it to the Wreck??"
Upscale - I take you out of my twit list, and in the space of a couple of
days you go right back to being a CLASS-A JERK
Myxylplyk - you must lead a sheltered life... and you aren't too resourceful
either!
JOAT/T - pick a post
UA100 - pick a post
Glen Kraig - My sarcastic post flew right over your head. Could that be
because you had YOUR head level with YOUR posterior?? Try to be a little
more intelligent next time and THINK before replying.
Lamont Cranston - You are the troll, here, buddy. Now run along...
Edwin Pawlowski - Gee, Ed, you've made an major scientific discovery!!!
White reflects light!!! Wow, you may be eligible for a Nobel prize this
year! Thanks
for sharing.
Morgans - that was an original thought...NOT!
Mac - cranky SOB, aren't you? I ask a simple question, and you vilify me for
it. Thanks!
Scott Cramer - snip stupid Cramer crap
Larry Jaques - YOU are the troll. I answer questions, I ASK questions, and
I inject humor, mostly to counteract the likes of folks such as yourself. I
bet in real life, you are even a bigger DS than you are here.
your point being???
he WAS funny.
Now he's not.
What about that is stressing you out, JOAT? When someone is funny, I'll
give the devil his due; when he's persistently churlish I opt to ignore
him, like a misbehaving child.
BTW, you've got WAAY too much time on your hands to be Googling old
messages. Try to stay with the here and now. The past is so OVER! Go
look for some plans for my next project, please. I'm not going to tell
you what it is, so please post LOTS of various types of furniture and
cabinet plans. As slow as my project is getting done, you've got at
least two weeks to come up with some killer plans. Thanks!
dave
T. wrote:
> First:
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
> all of your responses have been trollish and I'm tired of you as you
> aren't even humorous. bye!
>
> And then:
> Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 12:52am (EST+5) [email protected] (Nova) wrote:
> Thank you.
>
> Now that was humorous.
>
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 6:28am (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
says:
your point being???
he WAS funny.
Now he's not.
Yep. Got to agree with you 100% on that. He was funny. Now not.
But, that's always the way it is. Funny the first time, not the second.
And, you have to admit, he was funny the first time.
What about that is stressing you out, JOAT?
Me? Damn kids mostly. And, they're not really stressful, just
sorta irritating. Other than that, can't think of anything. I don't
come here because I'm stressed out, I come here mostly for the
entertainment. And, that's been pretty good recently.
When someone is funny, I'll give the devil his due; when he's
persistently churlish I opt to ignore him, like a misbehaving child.
Ah. I see, must be nobody churlish then, but I don't think you've
ignored anyone yet.
BTW, you've got WAAY too much time on your hands to be Googling old
messages.
You seem to be a bit confused there Dave, that wasn't me googling
old messages. I did find it funny, does that count?
Try to stay with the here and now. The past is so OVER!
Well, gee Dave, though everyone knew that, that's why they call it
the past.
Go look for some plans for my next project, please. I'm not going to
tell you what it is, so please post LOTS of various types of furniture
and cabinet plans. As slow as my project is getting done, you've got at
least two weeks to come up with some killer plans. Thanks!
OK Dave, since you did request. By popular demand, a plan for BAD:
http://www.kidsdomain.com/craft/turkey4.html And, from the Woodworking
Gods: http://new.wavlist.com/holidays/003/tnks-turkey.wav
You're welcome.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
On 06 Nov 2003, T. spake unto rec.woodworking:
> Go look for some plans for my next project, please. I'm not going to
> tell you what it is, so please post LOTS of various types of furniture
> and cabinet plans. As slow as my project is getting done, you've got at
> least two weeks to come up with some killer plans. Thanks!
>
> OK Dave, since you did request. By popular demand, a plan for BAD:
> http://www.kidsdomain.com/craft/turkey4.html
Crikey, JOAT, now he's going to ask where he can get red chenille
locally, and which glue gun is the best. And where he can get glue sticks.
And which end of the glue gun they go in.
Thanks a bunch.
"Groggy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Tail Gunner Dave" (or Recon Troll) trolled...
> >
> > BTW, you've got WAAY too much time on your hands to be Googling old
> > messages. Try to stay with the here and now. The past is so OVER!
>
> Over? Really? Your past defines your future, don't you know? The boy is the
> father of the man, no?
>
> Sorry to those I missed, I got a little ill reading this troll's tripe and
> gave up after 5 mins:
*sniff* You missed me.
I found an excellent link for BAD... an epiphany of sorts
http://www.despair.com/demotivators/dysfunction.html
O'Deen
OBWW - regarding sanding shellac, I'm on board with shellac as a
sanding sealer. The initial coat is specifically to raise the grain
and make the wood more sandable/planable/scrapable. Subsequent runs,
drips and/or errors are more quickly, easily and pleasingly handled
with a card scraper - or if you've got severe leveling issues, a
veneer scraper like the venerable Stanley #12 1/2. Shellac is best
sanded with proper lubrication, and after it's cured adequately. Most
of the problems encountered when polishing/sanding shellac are due to
impatience (or idiocy, depending on how many times you keep trying).
I prefer using fresh turpentine as a lubricant. My experience is that
mineral oil is just a little heavy. I prefer the smell of fresh turps
to mineral spirits - even the so-called deoderized stuff. Shellacking
your sliding or non-sliding shop fixtures and jigs is a good idea, as
it provides a bit more protection than plain old wax. As for canned
vs. flakes, I use the Zinnser SealCoat (which is dewaxed, and dries
hard), dilluted at least 2:1. If the smell of alcohol bugs you, get
the Behlen's shellac thinner or some 200-proof anhydrous denatured
alcohol from a chemical supply house. Chances are the horrible smell
you're enduring is MEK (being used as a denaturant), which is really
dastardly shit. Alcohol evaporates quickly, so if you've got
lingering smells in your shop, you either have crappy ventilation,
have a particularly nasty set of denaturants in the alcohol or you're
just plain sissy^H^H^H^H^H sensitive to the smell of alcohol. For my
*real* projects, as opposed to sealing drawers, coating shop
fixtures/jigs and/or outdoor benches (there's a cool one here:
http://www.klownhammer.org/proto-bench
), I'll actually think ahead (unlike other unnamed folks - ah
hell let's just call a spade a spade - single-synapse-Dave, who am I
kidding?) and dissolve some flakes/buttons. My favorite shellac is
dewaxed buttonlac, which is easily made by running the buttons through
a coffee grinder, enshrouding the shards in a doubled commercial
coffee filter and then submerging the thing in some alcohol for a few
days. The result is worth it. I got that tip from Russ Ramirez
(www.woodfinishingsupplies.com), who seemed to have needed a bit of
rec.woodworking finishing school a while back, but indeed runs a solid
business and sells some good stuff. No affiliation blah blah blah, and
I'm still miffed Groggy left me offa the moron bench. Outta sight,
outta mind I suppose. Ok, back to your regularly-scheduled
Dave-sponsored Inane-a-thon.
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> sniveled
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> and I didn't even look at your link
>
Bummer. Ok, I'll quote it:
The Only Consistent Feature of All Your (rec.woodworking)
Dissatisfying
Relationships is You
Enjoy your day!
O'Deen
I'd prefer to amend that to "the only dissatisfying Wreck relationships
are those I have with miscreants". I take it you think I'm unhappy??
Not the case. Do I get cranky? Yup! Do others? Yup! Do I have the
right to free choice? Yup! Do you? Same as me, unless you are living in
the wrong country...cheers.
oh, I'm enjoying my day, working on a desk, which is my first REAL
project that will come out of my shop. This desk will be the first bit
of furniture I've made and I owe my thanks to Leon who posted a picture
of his fine desk, and to EVERYONE, including yourself, my thanks for
answering my myriad questions about tools, design, procedures, finishing
products, etc. I hope that for every question answered there are untold
numbers of lurkers who are learning something too.
dave
dave
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> sniveled
> news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>and I didn't even look at your link
>>
>
> Bummer. Ok, I'll quote it:
>
> The Only Consistent Feature of All Your (rec.woodworking)
> Dissatisfying
> Relationships is You
>
> Enjoy your day!
>
> O'Deen
"Groggy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Tail Gunner Dave" (or Recon Troll) trolled...
> >
Big snip...
Like watching a house fire. You feel sorry for the occupants but just
CANT turn away!
-Chris
O'deen, that's scary. You ticked him off enough that *both* personalities
replied!
Sorry to leave you off the list, trust me to include the Lilliputians and
miss Gulliver. Here's your very own entry:
O'deen - Can't think of anything profound to say, so you resort to
playground behaviour. grow up
-So what is YOUR reason on this thread for being a jerk?
Greg, who's off to the shop to make some cabinets with Neanderkid.
"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Groggy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Tail Gunner Dave" (or Recon Troll) trolled...
> > >
> > > BTW, you've got WAAY too much time on your hands to be Googling old
> > > messages. Try to stay with the here and now. The past is so OVER!
> >
> > Over? Really? Your past defines your future, don't you know? The boy is
the
> > father of the man, no?
> >
> > Sorry to those I missed, I got a little ill reading this troll's tripe
and
> > gave up after 5 mins:
>
> *sniff* You missed me.
>
> I found an excellent link for BAD... an epiphany of sorts
teehee
Think stearate paper.
"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 8:27pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
says:
supposedly easier to sand...
I'm curious to know where you got your info from.
Jeff Jewitt only says:
"The wax in shellac decreases the finish's resistance to water and
prevents some finishes from bonding to it."
And doesn't say anything about easier to sand.
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/w00060.asp
Except the 400-600 wet/dry can be used on a block, which allows you to level
those careless spots. Wool doesn't, follows contour, hides in corners, and
generally makes a mess as it disintegrates.
Same as for any finish, there's leveling and there's polishing. Polish uses
soft backing.
"Chris Merrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nova wrote:
> > What I'm curious to know is why someone would want to sand shellac.
>
> I always sand the first coat (sealer coat) lightly. To take off the
> gloss of the final coats, I've tried sanding lightly with 600 grit paper
> and steel wool...got about the same results.
>
>
> --
> ************************************
> Chris Merrill
> [email protected]
> (remove the ZZZ to contact me)
> ************************************
>
wow! are you serious????
for an immediate example, i used shellac on my sled. sanded the final
coat with a few progressively finer grits, applied SCJ wax, and that
sucker is slicker than snot! glides across the Unisaw like it's on air
bearings. don't need anything but shellac for that, my friend...
dave
Nova wrote:
> "T." wrote:
>
>
>>Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 8:27pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
>>says:
>>supposedly easier to sand...
>>
>> I'm curious to know where you got your info from.
>
>
> What I'm curious to know is why someone would want to sand shellac.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
Wed, Nov 5, 2003, 8:52pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
says:
<snip> i used shellac on my sled. sanded the final coat with a few
progressively finer grits, applied SCJ wax, and that sucker is slicker
than snot! glides across the Unisaw like it's on air bearings. don't
need anything but shellac for that, my friend...
Well, I don't know about the shellac, or the sanding thereof; but,
for what it's worth, the runners and bottom of my sled are bare wood,
just used Johnsons wax. Slides very nicely and easily, with just that.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
T. wrote:
> Well, I don't know about the shellac, or the sanding thereof; but,
> for what it's worth, the runners and bottom of my sled are bare wood,
> just used Johnsons wax. Slides very nicely and easily, with just that.
FWIW, me too. That's all I've used on all of my various new jigs and
whatnots. Everything is doing fine.
--
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well, there you go, there IS more than one way to do something. judging
from a few of the miscreants posts here, you'd think there was only the
Holy Grail way to accomplish a task. I'm NOT referring to you,
sweetheart.
dave
T. wrote:
> Wed, Nov 5, 2003, 8:52pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> says:
> <snip> i used shellac on my sled. sanded the final coat with a few
> progressively finer grits, applied SCJ wax, and that sucker is slicker
> than snot! glides across the Unisaw like it's on air bearings. don't
> need anything but shellac for that, my friend...
>
> Well, I don't know about the shellac, or the sanding thereof; but,
> for what it's worth, the runners and bottom of my sled are bare wood,
> just used Johnsons wax. Slides very nicely and easily, with just that.
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Nova wrote:
> What I'm curious to know is why someone would want to sand shellac.
I always sand the first coat (sealer coat) lightly. To take off the
gloss of the final coats, I've tried sanding lightly with 600 grit paper
and steel wool...got about the same results.
--
************************************
Chris Merrill
[email protected]
(remove the ZZZ to contact me)
************************************
from a well known book on finishing. NOT from you! :) go to Borders,
or the library.
dave
T. wrote:
> Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 8:27pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> says:
> supposedly easier to sand...
>
> I'm curious to know where you got your info from.
>
> Jeff Jewitt only says:
> "The wax in shellac decreases the finish's resistance to water and
> prevents some finishes from bonding to it."
> And doesn't say anything about easier to sand.
> http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/w00060.asp
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
try this on for size, JOAT:
http://www.josephfusco.org/Articles/shellac_test/dewaxed_shellac.html
dave
T. wrote:
> Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 8:27pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> says:
> supposedly easier to sand...
>
> I'm curious to know where you got your info from.
>
> Jeff Jewitt only says:
> "The wax in shellac decreases the finish's resistance to water and
> prevents some finishes from bonding to it."
> And doesn't say anything about easier to sand.
> http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/w00060.asp
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Wed, Nov 5, 2003, 4:46pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
says:
try this on for size, JOAT:
http://www.josephfusco.org/Articles/shellac_test/dewaxed_shellac.html
Ah, OK. Thanks.
You'll have to pass that along to Jeff Jewitt, I'm sure he would be
interested.
JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
hey, I didn't write it. I don't know if it's true or not. just
recounting something I'd heard before... I'm not going to argue the
case one way or the other as I've never done a comparison of sanding
waxed vs dewaxed shellac. When I don't know from experience, I rely to
some extent on what I heard and read. Then I make up my own mind if I
get a chance to try things out.
I think Jeff's already been to the bank. :)
dave
T. wrote:
> Wed, Nov 5, 2003, 4:46pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> says:
> try this on for size, JOAT:
> http://www.josephfusco.org/Articles/shellac_test/dewaxed_shellac.html
>
> Ah, OK. Thanks.
>
> You'll have to pass that along to Jeff Jewitt, I'm sure he would be
> interested.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
> from human beings as possible.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 3 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
yeah, right, I'm gonna make a BFD out of putting a few coats of shellac
on a sled. How about I slap it on 3 coats with a chip brush, grab a
sander the next day, and in about 3 minutes I'm ready to wax it. WTF is
your problem?
dave
Nova wrote:
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>
>>wow! are you serious????
>>
>>for an immediate example, i used shellac on my sled. sanded the final
>>coat with a few progressively finer grits, applied SCJ wax, and that
>>sucker is slicker than snot! glides across the Unisaw like it's on air
>>bearings. don't need anything but shellac for that, my friend...
>>
>>dave
>
>
> Shellac is my preferred finish. If I decide to rub the finish out I start
> with "FFFF" pumice. If you're using sandpaper perhaps you should work on
> your application technique.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
"Andy Dingley" wrote ...
> Wax in shellac makes it easier to sand if it's not fully dried - helps
> to stop the sandpaper from clogging.
>
> But a good grade of stearated "open grit" sandpaper helps just as
> much.
Being patient and waiting a few extra minutes makes it easier to sand as
well. I think too many people are too quick to sand it and haven't let it
dry completely. I always leave it overnight to make sure that all the
alcohol has completely evaporated. Besides I hate doing too much finishing
in one sitting.
Anyway, who _doesn't_ de-wax it before using it in the first place? (I
don't recall the OP.)
--
Cheers,
Howard
----------------------------------------------------------
Working wood in New Jersey - [email protected]
Visit me in the woodshop - www.inthewoodshop.org
all of your responses have been trollish and I'm tired of you as you
aren't even humorous. bye!
dave
Nova wrote:
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>
>>yeah, right, I'm gonna make a BFD out of putting a few coats of shellac
>>on a sled. How about I slap it on 3 coats with a chip brush, grab a
>>sander the next day, and in about 3 minutes I'm ready to wax it. WTF is
>>your problem?
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> A sander?
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:44:02 GMT, Nova <[email protected]>
wrote:
>What I'm curious to know is why someone would want to sand shellac.
Don't think of it as sanding after you've shellaced, think of it as
shellacing before you sand.
The button shellac I'm using at the moment is some cheap waxy stuff,
which I dewax myself (let stand and decant). The waxy part then gets
used as sanding sealer.
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 11:13:09 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (T.)
wrote:
>Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 8:27pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
>says:
>supposedly easier to sand...
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> I'm curious to know where you got your info from.
Wax in shellac makes it easier to sand if it's not fully dried - helps
to stop the sandpaper from clogging.
But a good grade of stearated "open grit" sandpaper helps just as
much.
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Sanford wrote:
> e.g., as a sealer coat. But what is the advantage of waxed shellac?
One advantage is one less step in the manufacturing process (the dewaxing
step)...one would think this would result in a lower price, but I've never
compared them.
> Is it every necessary or benificial to use it? Can I just use waxless
> shellac for all shellac purposes? Thanks.
I don't know of any benefits...I think I remember reading that waxed
shellac will result in a finish that is _less_ resistant to water damage.
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