After a year of working on converting my garage to a studio/living space
I finally reached the time to do the floor, and I am planning to put
down 2x6 spruce T&G boards. I haven't gotten those yet, but I already
have 3/4 inch plywood, which I was going to glue down on the cement.
Someone suggested using Bostik MVP4 Moisture Vapor Protection for this.
Then, on top of that would go the T&G. Can some smart person please tell
me if my plan will work? This MVP4 is very expensive. Is there a more
economical way of achieving the goal of moisture protection? Is the 2x6
spruce a good idea? How do I nail it onto the plywood? Any ideas or
advice would be terribly appreciated.
Marianne
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Marianne Halevi
2 x 6 T&G material is quite heavy for this type of installation. You will
not be able to solidly nail it down to a layer of plywood and if it is
bowed, warped or twisted you will never hold it in place. If the wood
happens to move after it is installed, it could rip loose of the plywood or
pull the plywood up. I would look into a more "standard" tried and tested
method of construction.
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> "Marianne Halevi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> After a year of working on converting my garage to a studio/living space
>> I finally reached the time to do the floor, and I am planning to put
>> down 2x6 spruce T&G boards. I haven't gotten those yet, but I already
>> have 3/4 inch plywood, which I was going to glue down on the cement.
>> Someone suggested using Bostik MVP4 Moisture Vapor Protection for this.
>> Then, on top of that would go the T&G. Can some smart person please tell
>> me if my plan will work? This MVP4 is very expensive. Is there a more
>> economical way of achieving the goal of moisture protection? Is the 2x6
>> spruce a good idea? How do I nail it onto the plywood? Any ideas or
>> advice would be terribly appreciated.
>> Marianne
>
> Glue down plywood, then the moisture barrier, then more wood? Won't the
> moisture barrier assure than any moisture saturates the plywood?
>
> It is not the way I'd do it, but someone probably knows better than I. If
> it was me, I'd put the barrier first, then sleepers with insulation
> between, then sub floor and flooring. I'd not us 2x unless is was very
> cheap. Just seems like too much wood for no good reason.
>
> Considering the investment if both time and material, I'd not try to save
> $50 on the barrier material either.
>
EXT Wrote:
> 2 x 6 T&G material is quite heavy for this type of installation. You
> will
> not be able to solidly nail it down to a layer of plywood and if it is
>
> bowed, warped or twisted you will never hold it in place. If the wood
> happens to move after it is installed, it could rip loose of the
> plywood or
> pull the plywood up. I would look into a more "standard" tried and
> tested
> method of construction.
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" [email protected] wrote in message
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> "Marianne Halevi" [email protected] wrote in
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> After a year of working on converting my garage to a studio/living
> space
> I finally reached the time to do the floor, and I am planning to put
> down 2x6 spruce T&G boards. I haven't gotten those yet, but I already
> have 3/4 inch plywood, which I was going to glue down on the cement.
> Someone suggested using Bostik MVP4 Moisture Vapor Protection for
> this.
> Then, on top of that would go the T&G. Can some smart person please
> tell
> me if my plan will work? This MVP4 is very expensive. Is there a more
> economical way of achieving the goal of moisture protection? Is the
> 2x6
> spruce a good idea? How do I nail it onto the plywood? Any ideas or
> advice would be terribly appreciated.
> Marianne-
>
> Glue down plywood, then the moisture barrier, then more wood? Won't
> the
> moisture barrier assure than any moisture saturates the plywood?
>
> It is not the way I'd do it, but someone probably knows better than I.
> If
> it was me, I'd put the barrier first, then sleepers with insulation
> between, then sub floor and flooring. I'd not us 2x unless is was
> very
> cheap. Just seems like too much wood for no good reason.
>
> Considering the investment if both time and material, I'd not try to
> save
> $50 on the barrier material either.
> -
Thank you guys so much for setting me straight about the 2x6. I think I
originally thought of using that because I didn't want the v-grooves
that you get with the regular T&G, and my local lumber yard had this
2-by with one side flush. Maybe I can get the 1-by T&G with flush edges
too. As to the vapor barrier, it WAS planned to go UNDER the plywood,
not on top, and you are right, that's not worth being stingy about.
Sleepers are a good idea too, but I live in California with hardly any
rain, so I don't need the additional insulation, I think. So, thanks
again, and if you have any more good ideas on this subject - wonderful!
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Marianne Halevi
Edwin Pawlowski Wrote:
> "Marianne Halevi" [email protected] wrote in
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> So, thanks
> again, and if you have any more good ideas on this subject -
> wonderful!
> -
>
> In my slab portion of the house I put engineered wood
>
> I looked. They have some very nice woods, but TOO nice for what I had
> in mind. I wanted the place to look kind of rustic. Thanks anyway.
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Marianne Halevi
"Marianne Halevi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> So, thanks
> again, and if you have any more good ideas on this subject - wonderful!
>
In my slab portion of the house I put engineered wood and it saves a lot of
the labor you are going to do. www.mannington.com is one brand, but there
are many others. After 4 years, the finish still looks perfect.
"Marianne Halevi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> After a year of working on converting my garage to a studio/living space
> I finally reached the time to do the floor, and I am planning to put
> down 2x6 spruce T&G boards. I haven't gotten those yet, but I already
> have 3/4 inch plywood, which I was going to glue down on the cement.
> Someone suggested using Bostik MVP4 Moisture Vapor Protection for this.
> Then, on top of that would go the T&G. Can some smart person please tell
> me if my plan will work? This MVP4 is very expensive. Is there a more
> economical way of achieving the goal of moisture protection? Is the 2x6
> spruce a good idea? How do I nail it onto the plywood? Any ideas or
> advice would be terribly appreciated.
> Marianne
Glue down plywood, then the moisture barrier, then more wood? Won't the
moisture barrier assure than any moisture saturates the plywood?
It is not the way I'd do it, but someone probably knows better than I. If
it was me, I'd put the barrier first, then sleepers with insulation between,
then sub floor and flooring. I'd not us 2x unless is was very cheap. Just
seems like too much wood for no good reason.
Considering the investment if both time and material, I'd not try to save
$50 on the barrier material either.
"Marianne Halevi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> After a year of working on converting my garage to a studio/living space
> I finally reached the time to do the floor, and I am planning to put
> down 2x6 spruce T&G boards. I haven't gotten those yet, but I already
> have 3/4 inch plywood, which I was going to glue down on the cement.
> Someone suggested using Bostik MVP4 Moisture Vapor Protection for this.
> Then, on top of that would go the T&G. Can some smart person please tell
> me if my plan will work? This MVP4 is very expensive. Is there a more
> economical way of achieving the goal of moisture protection? Is the 2x6
> spruce a good idea? How do I nail it onto the plywood? Any ideas or
> advice would be terribly appreciated.
> Marianne
>
>
>
>
> --
> Marianne Halevi
Better to consult local building codes to get the best suggestion.
Different locations will treat insulation and vapor barriers differently
depending on the climate that is normal for any particular area.