RH

"Rob H."

02/02/2012 4:01 AM

What is it? Set 426

I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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CG

"Carl G."

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 5:55 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

Since there have been few guesses about number 2472, here is a guess based
on nothing but a first impression: 2472 is a playing card dealing mechanism
(e.g., deals bridge hands).

Carl G.


SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 6:29 PM

I've seen plenty of these. Took me a moment, for the light bulb to come on.

As to the demagnetizer, my Dad used to have an AC powered one, which looks
similar to the coil, no light bulb. Had a red push button for power. IIRC,
if you put the metal in, and pulled the item slowly away, that demagnetized.
Leave it in, and let off the button, and it was supposed to magnetize the
metal. I never got much magnetic action out of any metal I tried.

Christopher A. Young
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Now that you gave the answer it looks kind of obvious but I haven't seen too
many disassembled locks so it was a mystery to me. I took the photo about
three or four years ago so I was just guessing at the size, it might be a
bit smaller than 4-1/2". Thanks


SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 6:31 PM

As you wish. Will be a day or two, remind me if you havn't heard in a couple
days.

Christopher A. Young
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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If you have time to take some photos and send them to me
I would appreciate it. One of the guys brought this to a tool
collectors meeting a few years ago, no one knew what it was
so I guess that proves there weren't any locksmiths in
attendance. I'll pass your description on to the owner, I'm
sure he'll be happy to finally get an answer for it.


sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 7:15 PM

Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> writes:

>2469 Guess: Aviator training goggles. To limit vision to instruments,
>and to provide experience with blind flying.

AKA Foggles. I was thinking more along the lines of atomic sunglasses.

scott

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 6:25 AM

2467 I'll assume R is a coil. I'll also assume the terminals connect
to a DC source. Third assumption is that the light bulb functions as a
resistor. Then pulling out or pushing in the handle causes a square
wave reversal of the current through the coil. A fourth assumption is
that the oval hole in the coil is intended for the insertion of something.
This leads to a guess that this is a demagnetizer. To magnetize
something, there is no need for the reversal of the field.
I'll cheat and make two more guesses...
If connected to a telegraph line it could make a zzzipp sound when the
handle is pulled.
It could also cure a whole bunch of diseases.

2469 Guess: Aviator training goggles. To limit vision to instruments,
and to provide experience with blind flying.


On 2/2/2012 4:01 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

Ss

"Snag"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 7:36 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2468 is for cleaning the ring grooves in pistons .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !

PK

"Paul K. Dickman"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 8:05 AM

2471 is the catch from a mortise lock.
Although, at 4 1/2" long it has a long backset.
Paul K. Dickman

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

BB

Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 11:48 AM

On 2/2/2012 4:01 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

#2467 Wall lamp with dimmer (potentiometer?)?

#2470 For precise trimming. Roy Underhill showed an even nicer one on
TWS, also made in Germany I believe, for trimming miters. Roy used it
to help craft a picture frame.

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 1:21 PM

On 2/2/12 9:05 AM, Paul K. Dickman wrote:
> 2471 is the catch from a mortise lock.
> Although, at 4 1/2" long it has a long backset.
> Paul K. Dickman

I KNEW I'd seen it somewhere!
>
> "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 3:35 PM

On 2/2/12 6:25 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 2467 I'll assume R is a coil. I'll also assume the terminals connect to
> a DC source. Third assumption is that the light bulb functions as a
> resistor. Then pulling out or pushing in the handle causes a square wave
> reversal of the current through the coil. A fourth assumption is that
> the oval hole in the coil is intended for the insertion of something.
> This leads to a guess that this is a demagnetizer. To magnetize
> something, there is no need for the reversal of the field.

By golly, you're right! I imagined the square wave strip was a
conductor, but it's the space between two metal combs.

Gustav Boettger of Milwaukee invented it in 1902. It's big enough to
demagnetize a pocket watch without disassembly!

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 5:17 PM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 2467 I'll assume R is a coil. I'll also assume the terminals connect to
> a DC source. Third assumption is that the light bulb functions as a
> resistor. Then pulling out or pushing in the handle causes a square wave
> reversal of the current through the coil. A fourth assumption is that the
> oval hole in the coil is intended for the insertion of something.
> This leads to a guess that this is a demagnetizer. To magnetize
> something, there is no need for the reversal of the field.
> I'll cheat and make two more guesses...
> If connected to a telegraph line it could make a zzzipp sound when the
> handle is pulled.
> It could also cure a whole bunch of diseases.


Good answer! Demagnitizer is correct.

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 2:35 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2470. Device my grandmother used to cut cake. She could feed a
wedding party of 300 with just one cupcake.
Art

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 5:36 PM


"Snag" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2468 is for cleaning the ring grooves in pistons .


Great! Looks like you nailed it, wasn't sure if I'd get an answer for this
one. Thanks

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 5:40 PM


"Paul K. Dickman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 2471 is the catch from a mortise lock.
> Although, at 4 1/2" long it has a long backset.
> Paul K. Dickman


Now that you gave the answer it looks kind of obvious but I haven't seen too
many disassembled locks so it was a mystery to me. I took the photo about
three or four years ago so I was just guessing at the size, it might be a
bit smaller than 4-1/2". Thanks

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 5:44 PM

On 2/2/12 4:01 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2469: 19th Century Masonic hoodwinks. During initiations, they wanted
candidates to walk in the dark for the psychological effect. It was
easier to put hoodwinks on them than to make the room completely dark.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 5:46 PM


> 2471, as a locksmith with 25+++ years experience, I can comment with 100%
> assurance. This is a spring latch from a full mortise lockset. I have
> others
> in my care, and can send you pictures of them. See the rectangle shape
> hole
> in the center with a tab? The tab inside the rectangle goes over the end
> of
> the compression spring that exends the latch. See the yoke and tabs in the
> upper left? These engage the piece that goes over the spindle. I'll email
> you pictures of such a device in action, if you wish. And, if I can find a
> mortise lockset to pull apart.


If you have time to take some photos and send them to me I would appreciate
it. One of the guys brought this to a tool collectors meeting a few years
ago, no one knew what it was so I guess that proves there weren't any
locksmiths in attendance. I'll pass your description on to the owner, I'm
sure he'll be happy to finally get an answer for it.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

03/02/2012 4:53 AM


"Carl G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Since there have been few guesses about number 2472, here is a guess based
> on nothing but a first impression: 2472 is a playing card dealing
> mechanism (e.g., deals bridge hands).
>
> Carl G.


Correct! Supposedly it has settings so it can deal out a few different
games. I have a video of this mechanical marvel that I will post with the
answer.

DB

"Dave Baker"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

03/02/2012 4:44 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2469 Flip-up spring loaded welding goggles perhaps. Lets you take a quick
peek at the job in between runs of weld using only one hand and guarantees
the lenses stay closed to keep sparks out.
--
Dave Baker

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

03/02/2012 1:42 PM

Dave Baker wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 2469 Flip-up spring loaded welding goggles perhaps. Lets you take a quick
> peek at the job in between runs of weld using only one hand and guarantees
> the lenses stay closed to keep sparks out.

They don't look like you can see through any part of them.

--
Steve W.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

03/02/2012 5:15 PM


"J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2/2/12 4:01 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2469: 19th Century Masonic hoodwinks. During initiations, they wanted
> candidates to walk in the dark for the psychological effect. It was
> easier to put hoodwinks on them than to make the room completely dark.


This is correct.

The rest of the answers have been posted at the link below, I think I have
the right answer for the slicer, several antique experts said if was for
tobacco but I haven't been able to verify it.

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/02/set-426.html#answers

Thanks again to those who identified the latch and the groove cleaner.


Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 5:14 PM

2467, a very nicely made "whatever" it might be.
2468, some kind of spanner or adjuster?
2469, eye glasses for a bug eyed monster
2470, slicer for USFDA free give away cheese?
2471, as a locksmith with 25+++ years experience, I can comment with 100%
assurance. This is a spring latch from a full mortise lockset. I have others
in my care, and can send you pictures of them. See the rectangle shape hole
in the center with a tab? The tab inside the rectangle goes over the end of
the compression spring that exends the latch. See the yoke and tabs in the
upper left? These engage the piece that goes over the spindle. I'll email
you pictures of such a device in action, if you wish. And, if I can find a
mortise lockset to pull apart.
2472, I return to my previous state of complete ignorance. Totally no clue.
My humor guess is that's a belt pedometer for a coin counter person at a
casino. Got to at least make a SWAG.

And, finally, you send one which I know. Had to happen eventually.

Christopher A. Young
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 5:16 PM

Didn't they issue that kind of thing to the folks who dropped the A-bombs
over Japan?

Christopher A. Young
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"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> writes:

>2469 Guess: Aviator training goggles. To limit vision to instruments,
>and to provide experience with blind flying.

AKA Foggles. I was thinking more along the lines of atomic sunglasses.

scott

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 8:45 PM

On 2012-02-02, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Intersting set.

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2467) This is a very intersting device. It is intended to be used
to demagnetize anything which will fit within the coil.

Unlike most which I have seen, which were made to work from AC
power, this one works from a DC power source.

The light bulb serves to limit the current through the coil,
especially while the slide is stationary.

The long slide serves to periodically reverse the power to the
coil as it is drawn out.

The object to be demagnetized is placed in the coil, and while
the slide is slowly drawn out, the object is similarly slowly
withdrawn from the coil, so it experiences progressively smaller
reversing magnetic fields, ending with very little at all.

I don't know whether it is designed for low voltages (e.g. 6V or
12V from an automotive battery), or for the period when 110 VDC
was available from the wall outlet in some areas. Knowing the
data on the lamp screwed into the socket might give a clue,
assuming that it is original to the device, and not simply a
placeholder for one long lost or broken. (This appears to be in
a museum.)

2468) Another weird one. The left arm looks broken, but closer
examination makes me think that it is not.

It appears to be bronze, which is normally used where
non-sparking tools are needed, but the rotating blades look to
be hardened steel, so that lets that out.

It sort of looks like a tool designed for removing a press-fit
lid with a groove around the rim (or at least at one place) as
is common on watch backs -- but it is rather large for most
watches. But I still think that it is some form of lid remover.

2469) My first thought was that it was some form of welding goggles
but the velvet lining inside the caps says that they are not
transparent, so I would suggest that it is part of some
psychological experiment, to render someone totally free of
light, and then at the press of one of the control cones, to
suddenly expose the subject to whatever light level is present,
to see how long it takes him to adjust enough to see clearly.

Given the angle of the cones, it appears to be set up for an
object to be viewed which is quite close to the face of the
subject.

2470) Is that fourth photo the cutting blade? It looks more like
wood of some form, so I think not.

If the blade were *very* sharp, I might think that it is some
form of microtome for producing very thin slices for examination
via a microscope.

If instead it were a blade which would be good for wood, I would
think that it was to be used for slicing multi-colored pieces of
wood glued to form a pattern, and multiple slices are glued to
form a decorative pattern such as that around the sound hole in
a guitar.

2471) The left hand end looks like something to grip the cast iron
lids from a wood-fired cooking stove. The other end might
work similarly in other places in the stove.


2472) The dimension in the wood piece suggests that it is intended to
fit over the end of a piece of 2x4 lumber, which has not been
actually 2x4" for a long time, and has gotten smaller over the
decades.

What it is intended to *do* to the lumber, however, is not clear
to me. Perhaps cut a groove across the short dimension.

Now to post this and see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"anorton"

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 11:33 AM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 2467 I'll assume R is a coil. I'll also assume the terminals connect to
> a DC source. Third assumption is that the light bulb functions as a
> resistor. Then pulling out or pushing in the handle causes a square wave
> reversal of the current through the coil. A fourth assumption is that the
> oval hole in the coil is intended for the insertion of something.
> This leads to a guess that this is a demagnetizer. To magnetize
> something, there is no need for the reversal of the field.
> I'll cheat and make two more guesses...
> If connected to a telegraph line it could make a zzzipp sound when the
> handle is pulled.
> It could also cure a whole bunch of diseases.
>
> 2469 Guess: Aviator training goggles. To limit vision to instruments, and
> to provide experience with blind flying.
>
>
> On 2/2/2012 4:01 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>

I was thinking 2467 was a classroom demonstrator of inductance; the slide
could create DC or alternating of voltage of any frequency at the coil, and
the hole in the coil allowed for cores of different materials. The light
bulb provided a visual indication of the current.

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

02/02/2012 8:02 PM

On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 04:01:43 -0500, Rob H. wrote:

> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2470 is Ye Olde Fence Tightener. Cut off extremely tiny parts of
fencing until you get down to the amount needed for the requisite
tightness. :-)

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

Rh

Ralph

in reply to "Rob H." on 02/02/2012 4:01 AM

03/02/2012 9:42 AM

> I need some help with the second, fourth, and fifth ones this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
2468 Looks like a piston ring groove cleaner


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