Well, bad turned worse.
I had a top that I was gluing up.
Tried to flip the top , I grabbed it by the clamp ends, and due to the
weight the 2 popped off, They were grabbing by the front edge of the
clamp (bessey k).
The damn thing drops to the ground..
Ok, I start taking clamps off and my jorg head goes smashing down into
the top taking a huge divot out.
Right now taking a break. Going to have to figure whether I can save it
or not.
--
Jeff
On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
> ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot out.
Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop, also.
Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that can be done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented area(s), then sand smooth.
Sonny
On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: > ...my jo=
rg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot out. Yeah, ever=
y now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop, also. Maybe, find the divot=
piece and glue it back in place? If that can be done, then maybe a little =
steaming will raise any other dented area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together, yet. Can=
you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
Sonny
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> woodchucker wrote:
>> Well, bad turned worse.
>>
>> I had a top that I was gluing up.
>>
>> Tried to flip the top , I grabbed it by the clamp ends, and due to
>> the weight the 2 popped off, They were grabbing by the front edge of
>> the clamp (bessey k).
>>
>> The damn thing drops to the ground..
>> Ok, I start taking clamps off and my jorg head goes smashing down
>> into the top taking a huge divot out.
>>
>> Right now taking a break. Going to have to figure whether I can save
>> it or not.
>
> It's junk. Completely junk. Just send it up here, or meet me in
> Hershey with it this weekend, and I'll properly dispose of it for you.
> Keep on screwing that stuff up Jeff - I'm right here - got your
> backside...
>
I'm sure you'll be happy to dispose of the clamps as well, if he doesn't
want to take the rest of them off. :-)
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On 4/28/2014 5:17 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 4/28/2014 5:49 PM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: >
>>> ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot
>>> out. Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop, also.
>>> Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that can be
>>> done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented
>>> area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
>>
>> Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together,
>> yet. Can you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
>>
>> Sonny
>>
> Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that had
> gelled up.
>
> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>
> Tongue and grooved...
>
Time for a few random plugs of dutchmans.
On 4/29/2014 8:11 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 4/29/2014 8:51 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/28/2014 7:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2014 7:03 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 4/28/2014 5:17 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>> On 4/28/2014 5:49 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: >
>>>>>>> ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot
>>>>>>> out. Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop, also.
>>>>>>> Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that
>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>> done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented
>>>>>>> area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together,
>>>>>> yet. Can you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that
>>>>> had
>>>>> gelled up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tongue and grooved...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time for a few random plugs of dutchmans.
>>> :-(
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ooooooorrrrrr whack it a few more times with the clamps, a length of
>> chain, hammer the sides of screws into it, and finally give it a kick
>> down a flight of stairs and you have that $50 distressed look! ;~)
>
> :-( :-( :-(
>
>
LOL, I'm just not seeing it, HUH?
On 4/28/2014 4:27 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> woodchucker wrote:
>> Well, bad turned worse.
>>
>> I had a top that I was gluing up.
>>
>> Tried to flip the top , I grabbed it by the clamp ends, and due to the
>> weight the 2 popped off, They were grabbing by the front edge of the
>> clamp (bessey k).
>>
>> The damn thing drops to the ground..
>> Ok, I start taking clamps off and my jorg head goes smashing down into
>> the top taking a huge divot out.
>>
>> Right now taking a break. Going to have to figure whether I can save
>> it or not.
>
> It's junk. Completely junk. Just send it up here, or meet me in Hershey
> with it this weekend, and I'll properly dispose of it for you. Keep on
> screwing that stuff up Jeff - I'm right here - got your backside...
>
Hershey is too far to have coffee...2 hour trip... remind me to put a
steel plate on my backside :-p
--
Jeff
On 4/29/2014 8:51 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/28/2014 7:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 4/28/2014 7:03 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2014 5:17 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> On 4/28/2014 5:49 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: >
>>>>>> ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot
>>>>>> out. Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop, also.
>>>>>> Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that can be
>>>>>> done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented
>>>>>> area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together,
>>>>> yet. Can you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>
>>>> Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that
>>>> had
>>>> gelled up.
>>>>
>>>> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>>>>
>>>> Tongue and grooved...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Time for a few random plugs of dutchmans.
>> :-(
>>
>
>
>
> Ooooooorrrrrr whack it a few more times with the clamps, a length of
> chain, hammer the sides of screws into it, and finally give it a kick
> down a flight of stairs and you have that $50 distressed look! ;~)
:-( :-( :-(
--
Jeff
On 4/28/2014 5:49 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: > ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot out. Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop, also. Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that can be done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
>
> Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together, yet. Can you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
>
> Sonny
>
Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that had
gelled up.
Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
Tongue and grooved...
--
Jeff
On 4/29/2014 10:29 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 4/29/2014 10:06 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/29/2014 8:11 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> On 4/29/2014 8:51 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 4/28/2014 7:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>> On 4/28/2014 7:03 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/28/2014 5:17 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/28/2014 5:49 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: >
>>>>>>>>> ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge
>>>>>>>>> divot
>>>>>>>>> out. Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop,
>>>>>>>>> also.
>>>>>>>>> Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that
>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>> done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented
>>>>>>>>> area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together,
>>>>>>>> yet. Can you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> gelled up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tongue and grooved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time for a few random plugs of dutchmans.
>>>>> :-(
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ooooooorrrrrr whack it a few more times with the clamps, a length of
>>>> chain, hammer the sides of screws into it, and finally give it a kick
>>>> down a flight of stairs and you have that $50 distressed look! ;~)
>>>
>>> :-( :-( :-(
>>>
>>>
>>
>> LOL, I'm just not seeing it, HUH?
>>
>>
>
> No... not seeing it.
> I will be practicing doing dutchmans, just to make sure I can repeat it
> b4 I do it. Not every day that I do this.
>
> I have done it b4.. the goal is to keep the knife at an angle so it
> scarfs... and can disappear.. that's the goal, so it can be sanded in.
>
> Wish I had some hideglue.
>
alternatively an inlay stripe...matching one as a mirror image.
On 4/29/2014 3:43 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "woodchucker" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>
>> Tongue and grooved...
>
> Which is dinged, the ply or the solid wood?
>
> Are all the edges banded already?
>
> John
Well the ply, the head dropped right into the middle of the top.
My two dutchmans during my practice were fine.
My actual one, well, less than perfect.
I was impressed with my first one. the nicest of the bunch.
The second was good, but slightly more noticeable.
I reasoned both were off because I didn't care about color.
When I did the real panel, I must have cut 3 or 4 patches from the same
cutoff (different crossbandings). Found one that was pretty close.
The other two I rounded the ends to avoid a hard corner. But that was
the difficult part, so for this one I used square. I think that might be
my downfall.. I'll wait a day, sand it out, and if I have to , redo it.
I'll tell you I have a love hate relationship with maple.
It's easy to machine, can be beautiful, curly, tiger or even plain.
Is strong.
But it changes grain direction so much. And its hard to plane with out
tearing out. You are fine then bang, tearout. I was able to do a large
glueup and made sure I kept the grain oriented the same way for my
bridge (sliding tabletop between to cabinets). I made sure I picked easy
to work grain for the most part. I was careful...
The edging on these ply tops is only 3" wide, but the grain is wild. And
in a matter of 3 or 4" in length changes directions twice.... remnants
of branches whatever.. man it tears out in 3 directions, and is tough in
the last direction...
Love it and hate it. Just saying. When I get it right if feels great,
when it is beating me... well... time to scrape it... but I don't feel
good about it. Right now my #80 chatters on it even skewed. so it's
hand scraping. Would really like to try a scraper plane.
My lumber racks are full of tiger maple... Love it ... Hoping it will
love me... :-)
--
Jeff
On 4/28/2014 7:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 4/28/2014 7:03 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/28/2014 5:17 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2014 5:49 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: >
>>>>> ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot
>>>>> out. Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop, also.
>>>>> Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that can be
>>>>> done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented
>>>>> area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
>>>>
>>>> Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together,
>>>> yet. Can you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>>
>>> Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that had
>>> gelled up.
>>>
>>> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>>>
>>> Tongue and grooved...
>>>
>>
>>
>> Time for a few random plugs of dutchmans.
> :-(
>
Ooooooorrrrrr whack it a few more times with the clamps, a length of
chain, hammer the sides of screws into it, and finally give it a kick
down a flight of stairs and you have that $50 distressed look! ;~)
On 4/28/2014 7:03 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/28/2014 5:17 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 4/28/2014 5:49 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: >
>>>> ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot
>>>> out. Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop, also.
>>>> Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that can be
>>>> done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented
>>>> area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
>>>
>>> Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together,
>>> yet. Can you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
>>>
>>> Sonny
>>>
>> Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that had
>> gelled up.
>>
>> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>>
>> Tongue and grooved...
>>
>
>
> Time for a few random plugs of dutchmans.
:-(
--
Jeff
"woodchucker" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>Tongue and grooved...
Which is dinged, the ply or the solid wood?
Are all the edges banded already?
John
On 4/29/2014 10:06 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/29/2014 8:11 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 4/29/2014 8:51 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2014 7:26 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> On 4/28/2014 7:03 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/28/2014 5:17 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/28/2014 5:49 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:45:23 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 28, 2014 1:34:36 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote: >
>>>>>>>> ...my jorg head goes smashing down into the top taking a huge divot
>>>>>>>> out. Yeah, every now and then a "jorghead" comes into my shop,
>>>>>>>> also.
>>>>>>>> Maybe, find the divot piece and glue it back in place? If that
>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>> done, then maybe a little steaming will raise any other dented
>>>>>>>> area(s), then sand smooth. Sonny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since you were gluing up, the top's boards aren't glued together,
>>>>>>> yet. Can you flip that divoted board, bottom side up?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> gelled up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tongue and grooved...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Time for a few random plugs of dutchmans.
>>>> :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ooooooorrrrrr whack it a few more times with the clamps, a length of
>>> chain, hammer the sides of screws into it, and finally give it a kick
>>> down a flight of stairs and you have that $50 distressed look! ;~)
>>
>> :-( :-( :-(
>>
>>
>
> LOL, I'm just not seeing it, HUH?
>
>
No... not seeing it.
I will be practicing doing dutchmans, just to make sure I can repeat it
b4 I do it. Not every day that I do this.
I have done it b4.. the goal is to keep the knife at an angle so it
scarfs... and can disappear.. that's the goal, so it can be sanded in.
Wish I had some hideglue.
--
Jeff
woodchucker wrote:
> Well, bad turned worse.
>
> I had a top that I was gluing up.
>
> Tried to flip the top , I grabbed it by the clamp ends, and due to the
> weight the 2 popped off, They were grabbing by the front edge of the
> clamp (bessey k).
>
> The damn thing drops to the ground..
> Ok, I start taking clamps off and my jorg head goes smashing down into
> the top taking a huge divot out.
>
> Right now taking a break. Going to have to figure whether I can save
> it or not.
It's junk. Completely junk. Just send it up here, or meet me in Hershey
with it this weekend, and I'll properly dispose of it for you. Keep on
screwing that stuff up Jeff - I'm right here - got your backside...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"woodchucker" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
> Nope, it was post glue up. I was just trying to remove the glue that had
> gelled up.
>
> Ply inner with maple edging... about 3" edging.
>
> Tongue and grooved...
>
Beat it all over to make it distressed, and call it an antique reproduction?
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"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
> Ooooooorrrrrr whack it a few more times with the clamps, a length of
> chain, hammer the sides of screws into it, and finally give it a kick
> down a flight of stairs and you have that $50 distressed look! ;~)
You beat me to it! <g>
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