"Lazarus Long" <
>
> IMHO, this is sad. Things *should* be repairable. I wish the
> environmental crowd would pile onto the "everything is disposable"
> issue instead of screaming endlessly about some other things. Imagine
> if things WERE made to be repairable and didn't end up in landfills.
> Mt. Trashmore wouldn't grow as fast.
>
> I just hate that so much is disposable.
Often things can be repaired, but are just too expensive to do so. You can
buy a household iron for $13. How much time can a serviceman put into it to
make a repair worthwhile?
We demand cheap prices, we demand the latest technology, thus, repairs are
not feasible.
Another is stupid design. I have a broken part on my car (heater for the
seat). It should probably cost $20 if replaced by itself, but no, it is part
of a $550 assembly that must be replaced. Make sense? I'm going to the
regional office to see if I can get some help from GM.
Ed
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Given present quality, five years is overkill.
"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Talked to a guy today who had in turn talked to some Sears parts guys.
They
> told him that Sears will now only be carrying parts for future power tools
up
> to 5 years. Existing parts support will not be changed that way.
>
> Better find out who made any Sears stuff you have.
>
> GTO(John)
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:38:04 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Given the way people toss tools instead of repairing them, it makes little
>sense to stock much.
>Ed
>
IMHO, this is sad. Things *should* be repairable. I wish the
environmental crowd would pile onto the "everything is disposable"
issue instead of screaming endlessly about some other things. Imagine
if things WERE made to be repairable and didn't end up in landfills.
Mt. Trashmore wouldn't grow as fast.
I just hate that so much is disposable.
In article <[email protected]>, gto69ra4
@aol.com says...
> Talked to a guy today who had in turn talked to some Sears parts guys. They
> told him that Sears will now only be carrying parts for future power tools up
> to 5 years. Existing parts support will not be changed that way.
>
> Better find out who made any Sears stuff you have.
That's easy. Nobody. (at least any Sears stuff I would consider
having fixed) ;-)
Somebody had to say it.
>
> GTO(John)
>
> "GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Talked to a guy today who had in turn talked to some Sears parts guys.
> They
> > told him that Sears will now only be carrying parts for future power
tools
> up
> > to 5 years. Existing parts support will not be changed that way.
> >
> > Better find out who made any Sears stuff you have.
That assumes that the OEM will still support the tool. Given the way new
models come out every year it is difficult to carry every part too long.
Given the way people toss tools instead of repairing them, it makes little
sense to stock much.
Ed
In article <jEXmb.191893$9l5.174666@pd7tw2no>,
Specter <[email protected]> wrote:
>So my wife's sewing machine wasn't made by Ryobi - good!
>
>Is there an on-line reference anywhere that matches all the Sears code
>numbers to their corresponding OEM supplier. I seem to recall stumbling
>across such a site once, but I'll be darned if I can locate it now. TIA.
Is this the one you're thinking of?
http://www.oldwwmachines.com/Craftsman/Manufacturers-Prefix.asp
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So my wife's sewing machine wasn't made by Ryobi - good!
Is there an on-line reference anywhere that matches all the Sears code
numbers to their corresponding OEM supplier. I seem to recall stumbling
across such a site once, but I'll be darned if I can locate it now. TIA.
Rob
---------------
"GTO69RA4" wrote ...
> The prefix of the model number shows who made it. 315 is Ryobi, 917 is
AYP,
> etc.
There are lots of different pages with numbers lists. They usually turn up with
lots of Google searching.
Here's one of the more comprehensive lists that's been compiled:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&th=dcf776f5
d7eb7f9e&seekm=38ab6609%40news.mho.net#s
Watch out for the text wrap.
GTO(John)
>So my wife's sewing machine wasn't made by Ryobi - good!
>
>Is there an on-line reference anywhere that matches all the Sears code
>numbers to their corresponding OEM supplier. I seem to recall stumbling
>across such a site once, but I'll be darned if I can locate it now. TIA.
>
>Rob
GTO69RA4 wrote:
> There are lots of different pages with numbers lists. They usually turn up
> with lots of Google searching.
>
> Here's one of the more comprehensive lists that's been compiled:
Not comprehensive enough to cover 137 though.
Hmmmm... A mystery.
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Mark Jerde wrote:
>> Hmmmm... A mystery.
>
> http://www.owwm.com/Craftsman/Manufacturers-Prefix.asp
A new mystery. Rexon? Sure not a name I recognize.
Looks like I must have this one:
http://www.handytools.co.uk/acatalog/Handytools_Catalogue_Floor_Drills_6.html
Rexon 381mm Floor Drill Press, DP380F
(Reference #REXDP-380F)
381mm looks like Euroweird for 15". More or less.
Price: £219.00 Including VAT at 17.5%
(£186.38 Ex VAT)
£186.38 * 1.6 = 298.208
So it's basically the same price as the Crapsman version, except that one
comes with a vise, a chuck collar thingie and some kind of switch inside
the lid.
Well, that's about what I'd expect. Same tool without the extra blurfls at
the same price. That's Crapsman.
It was still available here and now when I wanted it. The best looking DP
in town. I still say the comparable Delta looks seriously more crappy on
fit and finish.
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You get a lot of this with newer Sears tools. Rexon isn't a real tool company,
it's an importer along the lines HF or Homier. You'll find that most of the
Sears stationary tools are generic Asian products. Same as Grizzly, same as
Delta, same as HF, same as Disco Stu's Tool Emporium. The differece is in the
quality control and sometimes detail parts.
GTO(John)
>A new mystery. Rexon? Sure not a name I recognize.
>
>Looks like I must have this one:
>
>http://www.handytools.co.uk/acatalog/Handytools_Catalogue_Floor_Drills_6.html
>
>Rexon 381mm Floor Drill Press, DP380F
>(Reference #REXDP-380F)
>
>381mm looks like Euroweird for 15". More or less.
>
>Price: £219.00 Including VAT at 17.5%
>(£186.38 Ex VAT)
>
>£186.38 * 1.6 = 298.208
>
>So it's basically the same price as the Crapsman version, except that one
>comes with a vise, a chuck collar thingie and some kind of switch inside
>the lid.
>
>Well, that's about what I'd expect. Same tool without the extra blurfls
>at
>the same price. That's Crapsman.
>
>It was still available here and now when I wanted it. The best looking
>DP
>in town. I still say the comparable Delta looks seriously more crappy on
>fit and finish.
>
>
>
>
>
>--
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>Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
>http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:07:24 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Lazarus Long" <
>>
>> IMHO, this is sad. Things *should* be repairable.
>> I just hate that so much is disposable.
>
>
>Another is stupid design. I have a broken part on my car (heater for the
>seat). It should probably cost $20 if replaced by itself, but no, it is part
>of a $550 assembly that must be replaced. Make sense? I'm going to the
>regional office to see if I can get some help from GM.
>Ed
This is definitely one of the things I mean.
"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Talked to a guy today who had in turn talked to some Sears parts guys.
They
> told him that Sears will now only be carrying parts for future power tools
up
> to 5 years. Existing parts support will not be changed that way.
>
> Better find out who made any Sears stuff you have.
>
> GTO(John)
No problem, just don't buy any tools with tails from Sears. Screwdrivers,
hammers, wrenches, fine. But I will not buy a high priced power tool with
the Sears name on the side.
Greg
Depends on the tool. Most of the tailed stuff they sell is crap, but some of
the Industrial or Professional tools are DeWalt or Bosch. Good value on the
used market because the Craftsman name drops the price through the floor.
GTO(John)
>No problem, just don't buy any tools with tails from Sears. Screwdrivers,
>hammers, wrenches, fine. But I will not buy a high priced power tool with
>the Sears name on the side.
>Greg