On 11/24/2016 4:59 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o17nct$f79$1
> @dont-email.me:
>
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>> what makes one bandsaw blade better than another
>>
>> materials
>>
>> manufacture
>>
>> blade thickness
>>
>> tooth design
>>
>>
>> have there been any innovations in bandsaw blades in any of the above
>> in the last 10 or 20 years
>>
>>
>> which criteria sets the different makes apart
>>
>
> When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter if your blade is made out of
> sewing thread. All that matters is the way it cuts the wood. Does it
> leave a good finish or cut through the material in an efficient manner?
>
> I've used both the Wood Slicer and Wood Turner's blades from Highland,
> and both do a fine job. I don't always get the best finish from the Wood
> Turner's blade, but that's ok... I'll further refine the shape of the
> wood later.
>
> Puckdropper
>
I have used olson, timberwolf, highland, delta and I think Lenox.
The Highland and Timberwolf seem to be close to each other. I like both,
and rate both high.
The delta.. not so good.
The Olson not so good on the 1/2 3-4 tpi. And not so great on the
narrower blades.
The lenox was a bimetal so I'm not going to compare it, as I think of
bimetal as metal working blades, more than ww blades.
--
Jeff
Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:o17nct$f79$1
@dont-email.me:
>
> what makes one bandsaw blade better than another
>
> materials
>
> manufacture
>
> blade thickness
>
> tooth design
>
>
> have there been any innovations in bandsaw blades in any of the above
> in the last 10 or 20 years
>
>
> which criteria sets the different makes apart
>
When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter if your blade is made out of
sewing thread. All that matters is the way it cuts the wood. Does it
leave a good finish or cut through the material in an efficient manner?
I've used both the Wood Slicer and Wood Turner's blades from Highland,
and both do a fine job. I don't always get the best finish from the Wood
Turner's blade, but that's ok... I'll further refine the shape of the
wood later.
Puckdropper
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On 11/26/2016 10:29 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 07:40:19 -0700
> Brewster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> #1 is a good weld. This is the last step in production and unless the
>> weld is straight and true, it doesn't matter how wonderful the blade
>> is.
>
> have never seen how they make the blades
>
> you say they do the weld after the teeth are cut and as the final
> step
>
> i wonder if that is true for all makers because that could be a
> significant decision
>
> it seems like automating a weld like this would be easy to do
>
> but maybe some of them have found a way to still do it poorly
>
>
>
all band saw blades are made as a coil of blade.. then cut to length...
it just makes sense to produce it that way.
The welds are machine welded.
Think about it.
--
Jeff
On 11/24/16 2:52 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>
> what makes one bandsaw blade better than another
>
> materials
>
> manufacture
>
> blade thickness
>
> tooth design
>
>
> have there been any innovations in bandsaw blades in any of the above
> in the last 10 or 20 years
>
>
> which criteria sets the different makes apart
>
>
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#1 is a good weld. This is the last step in production and unless the
weld is straight and true, it doesn't matter how wonderful the blade is.
The rest is specific to the cutting task. Nail the details here and you
get a better cut versus the competition, but the old adage "cheap, good,
fast, choose two" applies.
-BR
On 11/24/16 1:52 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
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>what makes one bandsaw blade better than another
>
>materials
>
>manufacture
>
>blade thickness
>
>tooth design
>
>
>have there been any innovations in bandsaw blades in any of the above
>in the last 10 or 20 years
>
>
>which criteria sets the different makes apart
Electric Comet <[email protected]> <-----<<anonymous little pussy>
It's easy being an anonymous little pussy who doesn't have to put a name
to your words, huh? Your kind has been on usenet for decades and
you're just as predictable and boring as all those who came before you.
When you decide to man up and get out of your parents' basement and put
a real name to your comments, then someone might give 2 shits about the
worthless detritus you type.
Until then, have fun with your cowardly little child's games.
--
-MIKE-
"...a good blade and a good band saw do not need guides at all."
--Leon (12 Nov 2016)
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 07:40:19 -0700
Brewster <[email protected]> wrote:
> #1 is a good weld. This is the last step in production and unless the
> weld is straight and true, it doesn't matter how wonderful the blade
> is.
have never seen how they make the blades
you say they do the weld after the teeth are cut and as the final
step
i wonder if that is true for all makers because that could be a
significant decision
it seems like automating a weld like this would be easy to do
but maybe some of them have found a way to still do it poorly
On 11/26/16 8:29 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 07:40:19 -0700
> Brewster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> #1 is a good weld. This is the last step in production and unless the
>> weld is straight and true, it doesn't matter how wonderful the blade
>> is.
>
> have never seen how they make the blades
Looong strip of blade steel, runs through a tooth cutter then a tooth
set device, possibly followed by some heat treatment. These are then
rolled up and boxed. When you order a non-stock blade length (I use
144"), they uncoil and cut to length.
>
> you say they do the weld after the teeth are cut and as the final
> step
Cut to length, butt the ends and weld. The weld is then ground flush.
>
> i wonder if that is true for all makers because that could be a
> significant decision
>
> it seems like automating a weld like this would be easy to do
I'm sure most, if not all larger suppliers have automation and common
blade lengths are most probably cut/welded completely automatically. I
have never experienced a bad weld (over maybe 15 or so blades). Since
mine are all built to length, the person who jigs up the blade and welds
probably has done thousands of these and is watching the process while
it happens and catches any errors.
>
> but maybe some of them have found a way to still do it poorly
Ya think? 8^)
I imagine QC (or lack thereof) is the culprit. Welding jigs should hold
the blade square and straight, but there is still room for errors.
-BR
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On 11/26/2016 10:29 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 07:40:19 -0700
> Brewster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> #1 is a good weld. This is the last step in production and unless the
>> weld is straight and true, it doesn't matter how wonderful the blade
>> is.
>
> have never seen how they make the blades
>
> you say they do the weld after the teeth are cut and as the final
> step
>
> i wonder if that is true for all makers because that could be a
> significant decision
>
> it seems like automating a weld like this would be easy to do
>
> but maybe some of them have found a way to still do it poorly
Since half the group are lost figuring out what you say w/o punctuation,
and whilst I've wasted a lot of words on the clueless, but haven't run
out of words yet, I'll tell you a short story on blades.
I've always bought my blades from Damon Saw, an "industrial" blade
supplier. Once, a long long time ago I went to them for a blade I
needed (they stocked only bulk, and weld anything as ordered) The lady
in the office said the guy that does the welding was sick or on
vacation, and recommended I wait till he comes back. I said I couldn't
wait and she indicated the guy she had to weld it was not too good, or
something like that, and if I had a problem, or it broke, I could bring
it back for a re-weld.
Well, the blade worked, but it had a noticeable THUMP as it turned. I
knew immediately the weld was the culprit. I had purchased plenty of
blades from them w/o a problem, and just let the blade thump away. It
did break eventually, and I never bothered to take it back. The blades
were industrial quality, which means to everyone but KRW, high quality.
An aside, I recall watching the woodworking idiot, Scott Philips using
his band saw (for a task clearly better suited to a TS) and the saw had
the same exact THUMP my bad blade had.
Not sure if anyone can buy from them, they are an industrial supplier,
but all the blades I bought from them were top notch. They have 9 guys
in the shop, and sell $10-20 million in gross sales, so they probably
know what they are doing.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 04:24:51 +0000, -MIKE-
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/24/16 1:52 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>>
>>what makes one bandsaw blade better than another
>>
>>materials
>>
>>manufacture
>>
>>blade thickness
>>
>>tooth design
>>
>>
>>have there been any innovations in bandsaw blades in any of the above
>>in the last 10 or 20 years
>>
>>
>>which criteria sets the different makes apart
>
>Electric Comet <[email protected]> <-----<<anonymous little pussy>
Nice try at covering your tracks. Didn't work, EC.
>It's easy being an anonymous little pussy who doesn't have to put a name
>to your words, huh? Your kind has been on usenet for decades and
>you're just as predictable and boring as all those who came before you.
>
>When you decide to man up and get out of your parents' basement and put
>a real name to your comments, then someone might give 2 shits about the
>worthless detritus you type.
>
>Until then, have fun with your cowardly little child's games.