yeah... I know.. I've contemplated this for too long.
The 1st SL I got from LV had noticeable twist. They sent a 2nd. It's
as true as my jointer bed ;-) (a Jet 6").
The problem I see is most everything I'll be referencing to it will be
iron or steel, in the case of cast iron, the steel Starret will have
the hardness edge, for other steel, at least it will be even. The AL
edge will almost always be the softer. So eventualy, the Al one is
going to end up with a nick.. probably a few thous. I can always
knock it off, but it won't be long before I have a 36" edge that's no
better than +/- .005, and I'd like to have better.
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:20:27 -0600, Chris Friesen
<[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> thanks.. I had heard about that site.. so I'll keep my eyes open.
>>
>> I have the Lee Valley aluminum.. but I'm thinking to return it.. for
>> another $60 I'll have the best of the best... and can forget about it.
>
>How much of a difference does it actually make? Assuming you don't bang
>it around, will the aluminum one go out of whack with just regular use?
>
>Chris
[email protected] wrote:
> anyone find a good price recently on the 36" non beveled edge?
There's an outfit called J & L: Industrial that sells them...I paid
$105 for mine a few months ago. But you HAVE to wait for one of their
"Buy 5 items, get 25% off" sale. By the straightedge and little items
and you're on your way. Or sometimes they put all precision measuring
instruments on sale for 25% off.
Without that sale, they're expensive.
Their site is http://www.jlindustrial.com/...get on their e-mailing
list and they'll send you an announcement on the sale. Happens about
every three or four weeks.
For the record, it's a tool I wouldn't be without. It's only defect is
that it isn't five feet long... :-)
[email protected] wrote:
> I could use a 12" 4R or similar rule.. but the options are
> staggering.. on their website..
I got the Starrett 6" hook rule...it lives in my hands.
On 2006-01-27 13:09:22 -0500, [email protected] said:
> I have the Lee Valley aluminum.. but I'm thinking to return it.. for
> another $60 I'll have the best of the best... and can forget about it.
...until the first time you drop it.
[email protected] wrote:
> thanks.. I had heard about that site.. so I'll keep my eyes open.
>
> I have the Lee Valley aluminum.. but I'm thinking to return it.. for
> another $60 I'll have the best of the best... and can forget about it.
How much of a difference does it actually make? Assuming you don't bang
it around, will the aluminum one go out of whack with just regular use?
Chris
[email protected] wrote:
> For the record, it's a tool I wouldn't be without. It's only defect is
> that it isn't five feet long... :-)
>
Mine isn't either... :)
dave
W Canaday wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:36:38 -0800, Steve knight wrote:
>
>
>>I did not say cheap. I just said not starrett.
>
>
> Steve is correct. Check out the Mititoyo brand as well. Also Lufkin. Even
> a General will be within .005 ... probably no more than a couple thou out.
If 0.005 is all you want, just buy some precision ground flat stock of a
thickness and width sufficient to give you the warm fuzzies. You can
even get Starrett's version of it. :)
There is even a pre-hardened version...
er
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| sale is on now...
|
| should I get beveled or not?
|
| I need a cheap telescoping guage set.. but what other inexpensive 3
| items would be good "filler"
How about a pair of magnetic bases to hold a featherboard?
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:34:13 -0600, Mike Berger <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Yeah, but if you do metalworking as well, none of the cheap
>products are nearly as repeatable or accurate.
I did not say cheap. I just said not starrett.
Knight-Toolworks
http://www.knight-toolworks.com
affordable handmade wooden planes
Yeah, but if you do metalworking as well, none of the cheap
products are nearly as repeatable or accurate.
Steve knight wrote:
> it can be hard to find good prices on such items. ebay can be good but
> I just checked
> http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=86413531&PMCTLG=00
> do you really need a starrett? made in the us
> http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/N2DRVSH?PMSECT=0000001475
> if your doing woodworking any of these is far more then enough. I used
> a starrett when I made straightedges. but it is a bit overkill.
that is one nice thing about the LV.. it's hollowed out slightly..
makes a nice grip.. whereas the Starret appears to be a solid chunk.
The piont about dropping is well taken..
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:52:20 GMT, Colonel <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 2006-01-27 13:09:22 -0500, [email protected] said:
>
>> I have the Lee Valley aluminum.. but I'm thinking to return it.. for
>> another $60 I'll have the best of the best... and can forget about it.
>
>
>...until the first time you drop it.
>
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:33:41 -0700,
[email protected] wrote:
>anyone find a good price recently on the 36" non beveled edge?
it can be hard to find good prices on such items. ebay can be good but
I just checked
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=86413531&PMCTLG=00
do you really need a starrett? made in the us
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/N2DRVSH?PMSECT=0000001475
if your doing woodworking any of these is far more then enough. I used
a starrett when I made straightedges. but it is a bit overkill.
Knight-Toolworks
http://www.knight-toolworks.com
affordable handmade wooden planes
thanks.. I had heard about that site.. so I'll keep my eyes open.
I have the Lee Valley aluminum.. but I'm thinking to return it.. for
another $60 I'll have the best of the best... and can forget about it.
On 25 Jan 2006 06:42:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>> anyone find a good price recently on the 36" non beveled edge?
>
>There's an outfit called J & L: Industrial that sells them...I paid
>$105 for mine a few months ago. But you HAVE to wait for one of their
>"Buy 5 items, get 25% off" sale. By the straightedge and little items
>and you're on your way. Or sometimes they put all precision measuring
>instruments on sale for 25% off.
>
>Without that sale, they're expensive.
>
>Their site is http://www.jlindustrial.com/...get on their e-mailing
>list and they'll send you an announcement on the sale. Happens about
>every three or four weeks.
>
>For the record, it's a tool I wouldn't be without. It's only defect is
>that it isn't five feet long... :-)
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:36:38 -0800, Steve knight wrote:
> I did not say cheap. I just said not starrett.
Steve is correct. Check out the Mititoyo brand as well. Also Lufkin. Even
a General will be within .005 ... probably no more than a couple thou out.
There are also techniques for verifying & correcting straightness by
either direct measurement or by comparing them to two other reference
edges.
It's how the old-timers made their own straight edges and flats.
Bill
Alright.. I got the Starrett 36" nonbevel nongraduated edge. Nice
piece of steel. I need to go lay if across the jointer bed and see if
it's straight ;-)
In defense of the Lee Valley 38" aluminum flavor.. 1st I got it for
$35 at a WW show.. so no shipping. The Starret was $106 + shipping;
call it $10 since most of the weight was the Starret (used the 25% off
deal at JLindustrial).
So.. $35 vs $116 (though I see the LV is now about $40).
The Starret is a 7/32" wide, the LV 7/16". 7/32" is tough to sit
upright w/o support. I might end up fitting up some wooden "training
wheels" to prevent it from tipping over and tumbling off whatever I'm
leveling. If I leave the "outriggers" a tad shy of the reference
edge, they won't effect the measurement, but they will be in the way.
The Starret is steel, LV aluminum (though LV has a steel 24" one
available, but I really wanted 36" +).
The Starret is a "block" of steel, somewhat hard to grap ahold of; the
LV is hollowed out in the center; easier to grab and hang onto.
The Starret is solid; the LV has a hole to hang it up.
If my 1st go-around w/ the LV would have been good (my 1st one had
detectable twist in it), I probably would have never questioned it's
accuracy.
The LV has a lot more "useability features", the Starret, hopefully..
is more accurate and a once in a LT purchase.
For general use, where the risk of damaging is inherent, and accuracy
is so-so, the LV would be my choice. Since I now have the Starret,
I'll have to make sure I don't use it for any of those cases ;-)
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:33:41 -0700,
[email protected] wrote:
>anyone find a good price recently on the 36" non beveled edge?