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FrozenNorth

03/05/2013 1:18 PM

Finish?

A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine bead-board
and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots Oil, looks good,
problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife puts potted plants
back there on them in the summer. Try as she might water stains are
inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is
there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing
every couple years? Toronto Canada, unheated space, very cold in
winter, very hot in summer if it makes a difference.
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Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.


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k

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 5:47 PM

On Fri, 03 May 2013 13:18:41 -0400, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:

>A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine bead-board
>and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots Oil, looks good,
>problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife puts potted plants
>back there on them in the summer. Try as she might water stains are
>inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is
>there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing
>every couple years? Toronto Canada, unheated space, very cold in
>winter, very hot in summer if it makes a difference.

How about a piece of glass over the wood, for the months you're using
it as a greenhouse?

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 11:56 AM


"FrozenNorth" wrote:


>A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine
>bead-board and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots Oil,
>looks good, problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife puts
>potted plants back there on them in the summer. Try as she might
>water stains are inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the
>direct sunlight, is there something else that may work, short of
>re-sanding and finishing every couple years? Toronto Canada,
>unheated space, very cold in winter, very hot in summer if it makes a
>difference.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Epifanes.

Take a look at Jamestown Distributors web site for data then find
a marine chandlery in Toronto to purchase.

Have fun.

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 12:47 PM


"FrozenNorth" wrote:

> A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine
> bead-board and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots
> Oil,
> looks good, problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife
> puts
> potted plants back there on them in the summer. Try as she might
> water stains are inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the
> direct sunlight, is there something else that may work, short of
> re-sanding and finishing every couple years? Toronto Canada,
> unheated space, very cold in winter, very hot in summer if it makes
> a
> difference.
---------------------------------------------------------------

Lew Hodgett wrote:

> Epifanes.
>
> Take a look at Jamestown Distributors web site for data then find
> a marine chandlery in Toronto to purchase.
>
> Have fun.
---------------------------------------------------------------
"FrozenNorth" wrote:

> Thanks for that, I'll have a look after/maybe I see a few more
> ideas.
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When it comes to clear marine finishes, you have Epifanes and stuff
that wishes they could be Epifanes when they grow up.

Pricey, probably $35-$40 US for 750 ml, but worth it.

Lew


Sc

Sonny

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 12:16 PM

On Friday, May 3, 2013 12:18:41 PM UTC-5, FrozenNorth wrote:

Froz, if I may, are you in the woodworking business, in any way, and be near Lake Ontario, near High Park? If so, for either question, email me - cedarsonny at aye oh ell dot com

Sonny

Sc

Sonny

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 11:35 AM

On Friday, May 3, 2013 12:18:41 PM UTC-5, FrozenNorth wrote:
> Try as she might water stains are inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing every couple years?

Not really, as per resanding every few years, however....

Do a one-time good sanding, now, and finish with any good marine finish. Every few years, lighly sand and apply another coat of marine. The subsequent light sandings and recoatings should be a snap, compared to the one-time substantial refinishing.

Maybe, surprise her with a few inexpensive decorative dishes/plates, to use as pot saucers/holders, to help prevent water spillage & spotting.

I've used scrap wood to make pot "plates". Simply square/hexagon, flat, no concave contour, beveled edges to dress them up, a bit. These aren't always quite fitting for elegant decor, though.

Sonny

cc

chaniarts

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 11:43 AM

On 5/3/2013 10:18 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine bead-board
> and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots Oil, looks good,
> problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife puts potted plants
> back there on them in the summer. Try as she might water stains are
> inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is
> there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing
> every couple years? Toronto Canada, unheated space, very cold in
> winter, very hot in summer if it makes a difference.

a piece of scrap granite or glass.

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 3:30 PM

On 5/3/2013 3:16 PM, Sonny wrote:
> cedarsonny at aye oh ell dot com

You have mail.

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Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 3:32 PM

On 5/3/2013 2:35 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Friday, May 3, 2013 12:18:41 PM UTC-5, FrozenNorth wrote:
>> Try as she might water stains are inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing every couple years?
>
> Not really, as per resanding every few years, however....
>
> Do a one-time good sanding, now, and finish with any good marine finish. Every few years, lighly sand and apply another coat of marine. The subsequent light sandings and recoatings should be a snap, compared to the one-time substantial refinishing.
>
> Maybe, surprise her with a few inexpensive decorative dishes/plates, to use as pot saucers/holders, to help prevent water spillage & spotting.
>
> I've used scrap wood to make pot "plates". Simply square/hexagon, flat, no concave contour, beveled edges to dress them up, a bit. These aren't always quite fitting for elegant decor, though.
>
> Sonny
>
I knew it was a mistake to make the ledge so wide. :-)
Scrap wood may work, it is only about 4 1/2 inches wide, hoping for a
more elegant solution, and trying to avoid tipping, our cats like it
back there in the summer too.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 3:33 PM

On 5/3/2013 2:43 PM, chaniarts wrote:
> On 5/3/2013 10:18 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>> A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine bead-board
>> and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots Oil, looks good,
>> problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife puts potted plants
>> back there on them in the summer. Try as she might water stains are
>> inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is
>> there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing
>> every couple years? Toronto Canada, unheated space, very cold in
>> winter, very hot in summer if it makes a difference.
>
> a piece of scrap granite or glass.
>
If I had any yep and more elegant than scrap wood.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 3:34 PM

On 5/3/2013 2:56 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "FrozenNorth" wrote:
>
>
>> A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine
>> bead-board and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots Oil,
>> looks good, problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife puts
>> potted plants back there on them in the summer. Try as she might
>> water stains are inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the
>> direct sunlight, is there something else that may work, short of
>> re-sanding and finishing every couple years? Toronto Canada,
>> unheated space, very cold in winter, very hot in summer if it makes a
>> difference.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Epifanes.
>
> Take a look at Jamestown Distributors web site for data then find
> a marine chandlery in Toronto to purchase.
>
> Have fun.
>
Thanks for that, I'll have a look after/maybe I see a few more ideas.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

cc

chaniarts

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 12:48 PM

On 5/3/2013 12:33 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> On 5/3/2013 2:43 PM, chaniarts wrote:
>> On 5/3/2013 10:18 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>> A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine bead-board
>>> and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots Oil, looks good,
>>> problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife puts potted plants
>>> back there on them in the summer. Try as she might water stains are
>>> inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is
>>> there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing
>>> every couple years? Toronto Canada, unheated space, very cold in
>>> winter, very hot in summer if it makes a difference.
>>
>> a piece of scrap granite or glass.
>>
> If I had any yep and more elegant than scrap wood.
>

a glass place and granite yard toss out hundreds of lbs of this every
day. they'll probably just give you some.

BB

Bill

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 3:49 PM

FrozenNorth wrote:
> On 5/3/2013 2:35 PM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Friday, May 3, 2013 12:18:41 PM UTC-5, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>> Try as she might water stains are inevitable. I know Poly is not a
>>> good idea in the direct sunlight, is there something else that may
>>> work, short of re-sanding and finishing every couple years?
>>
>> Not really, as per resanding every few years, however....
>>
>> Do a one-time good sanding, now, and finish with any good marine
>> finish. Every few years, lighly sand and apply another coat of
>> marine. The subsequent light sandings and recoatings should be a
>> snap, compared to the one-time substantial refinishing.
>>
>> Maybe, surprise her with a few inexpensive decorative dishes/plates,
>> to use as pot saucers/holders, to help prevent water spillage &
>> spotting.
>>
>> I've used scrap wood to make pot "plates". Simply square/hexagon,
>> flat, no concave contour, beveled edges to dress them up, a bit.
>> These aren't always quite fitting for elegant decor, though.
>>
>> Sonny
>>
> I knew it was a mistake to make the ledge so wide. :-)
> Scrap wood may work, it is only about 4 1/2 inches wide, hoping for a
> more elegant solution, and trying to avoid tipping, our cats like it
> back there in the summer too.
>
How about a piece of clear plexiglass, with an added lip? Remniscient of
what is commonly used on top of kitchen table tops.

Bill


Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 1:20 PM


"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> FrozenNorth wrote:
>> On 5/3/2013 2:35 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2013 12:18:41 PM UTC-5, FrozenNorth wrote:
>>>> Try as she might water stains are inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea
>>>> in the direct sunlight, is there something else that may work, short of
>>>> re-sanding and finishing every couple years?
>>>
>>> Not really, as per resanding every few years, however....
>>>
>>> Do a one-time good sanding, now, and finish with any good marine finish. Every
>>> few years, lighly sand and apply another coat of marine. The subsequent light
>>> sandings and recoatings should be a snap, compared to the one-time substantial
>>> refinishing.
>>>
>>> Maybe, surprise her with a few inexpensive decorative dishes/plates, to use as
>>> pot saucers/holders, to help prevent water spillage & spotting.
>>>
>>> I've used scrap wood to make pot "plates". Simply square/hexagon, flat, no
>>> concave contour, beveled edges to dress them up, a bit. These aren't always
>>> quite fitting for elegant decor, though.
>>>
>>> Sonny
>>>
>> I knew it was a mistake to make the ledge so wide. :-)
>> Scrap wood may work, it is only about 4 1/2 inches wide, hoping for a more elegant
>> solution, and trying to avoid tipping, our cats like it back there in the summer
>> too.
>>
> How about a piece of clear plexiglass, with an added lip? Remniscient of what is
> commonly used on top of kitchen table tops.
>
> Bill

That's what I did and it works fine. I also glued on back and side splashes.
Art

lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 9:21 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote:
>A couple years ago I redid the interior of our sun-room, pine bead-board
>and trim, all finished with several coats of a Cabots Oil, looks good,
>problem is the window ledges are wide enough my wife puts potted plants
>back there on them in the summer. Try as she might water stains are
>inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is
>there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing
>every couple years? Toronto Canada, unheated space, very cold in
>winter, very hot in summer if it makes a difference.
>--
>Froz...

Seems like a rare case where using a good spar varnish indoors might be
a good idea.


--
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LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to FrozenNorth on 03/05/2013 1:18 PM

03/05/2013 11:11 PM

On Fri, 03 May 2013 13:18:41 -0400, FrozenNorth wrote:

> Try as she might water stains are
> inevitable. I know Poly is not a good idea in the direct sunlight, is
> there something else that may work, short of re-sanding and finishing
> every couple years?

I'd try some dewaxed shellac. It's a lot more resistant to water stains
than people think. And if it does need refinished you don't need to
sand. Just wipe on another coat or two.

Mixing it yourself is best, but Zinnsers SealCoat is almost as good.

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