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[email protected] (BIG JOE)

12/05/2004 11:55 AM

Any interested parties in Atlanta area?

A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
area.

They are quoting him $1200-$1500 to chop down, remove the tree and
grind the stump. I have tried to get him to look into talking to
someone who is interested in the lumber to either handle the removal
themselves, or to at least help defray the cost.

This is very routine in Wisconsin, but I don't know the Atlanta
market.

Joe


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Ed Clarke

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

16/05/2004 12:15 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Dave Mundt wrote:
> Greetings and salutations....
>
> On 12 May 2004 11:55:35 -0700, [email protected] (BIG JOE) wrote:
>
>>A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
>>yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
>>height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
>>area.

Please please post the pictures! A nine foot diameter oak is bigger
than any that I've ever seen. I'm not even sure where you'd get a saw
with a blade that long. Pacific northwest? But something that large
would usually be mounted on a tracked vehicle.

xD

[email protected] (Dave Mundt)

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

15/05/2004 5:02 AM

Greetings and salutations....

On 12 May 2004 11:55:35 -0700, [email protected] (BIG JOE) wrote:

>A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
>yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
>height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
>area.
>
>They are quoting him $1200-$1500 to chop down, remove the tree and
>grind the stump. I have tried to get him to look into talking to
>someone who is interested in the lumber to either handle the removal
>themselves, or to at least help defray the cost.
>
>This is very routine in Wisconsin, but I don't know the Atlanta
>market.
>
>Joe
It depends on how much "sweat equity" he wants to put into it.
Taking down a LARGE tree like that is a challenging propostion, and
the problems go up the closer it is to the house, or other
buildings that could be damaged. Frankly, that does not seem
like an out of line amount.
Of COURSE the insurance agent put the fear of God into him.
It is there job to suck as much money out of our pocket, while
paying out as little as possible. That became a problem when
the insurance industry became a "for profit" industry.
How about this. Make a deal with the arborist to take
down the tree, and chop up everything smaller than, say, 5"
in diameter, making it into mulch. Might be able to get a
better price for that job. Then...He could have the trunk
and larger branches sawn up into lumber for fairly small amounts
(there are, I am sure, a number of small sawmill owners in the
area that would be happy to do it for $0.25/board foot or less).
He could then sell the lumber for $0.75/board foot or so.
He could cut some of the medium sized limbs (say, 12"
diameter or less) into short lengths and sell them as bowl
blanks for woodturners at $1.00 or $2.00 each. Note that the
cut ends need to be sealed with wax, or latex paint or
something, to keep them from from checking.
now...all this requires a certian amount of effort
on his part. However, I suspect that a posting to THIS
news group would bring a LOT of woodworkers out of the
woodwork (as it were) with interest in good lumber at
a bargain price.
Alternatively, he might contact some of the sawyers
and see if they would be interested in taking it on
commission...say a 60%/40% split.
One thing that is VERY important to do is to run
over it ALL with a metal detector,a nd, use bright red
spray paint to mark ANY metal in the wood. There is nothing
that makes a sawyer grumpier than having to resharpen or
replace a blade that has tried to cut a tire iron that
some idiot left in the crotch of a tree 30 years ago.
Luckily, bullets are fair game, as they are so
soft that they don't bother the blade. As a matter of fact,
a friend of mine and I were sawing up a trunk for bowl
blanks a bit ago, and, cut through what looked like about
a .45 cal slug embedded DEEP in a tree. It COULD have
been Civil War vintage, although I suspect that it
is more likely to have been from the 20s or so. Alas,
it was on the part of the trunk that was going away
when it gets turned, so, there was no way to incorporate
it into the design.
Regards
Dave Mundt

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

12/05/2004 2:15 PM

"BIG JOE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
> yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
> height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
> area.
>
> They are quoting him $1200-$1500 to chop down, remove the tree and
> grind the stump. I have tried to get him to look into talking to
> someone who is interested in the lumber to either handle the removal
> themselves, or to at least help defray the cost.
>
> This is very routine in Wisconsin, but I don't know the Atlanta
> market.
>
> Joe

That's one big oak tree. Are you sure it isn't 9-10 feet in circumference?

todd

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

12/05/2004 10:58 PM

Todd Fatheree wrote:

> "BIG JOE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
>> yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
>> height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
>> area.
>>
>> They are quoting him $1200-$1500 to chop down, remove the tree and
>> grind the stump. I have tried to get him to look into talking to
>> someone who is interested in the lumber to either handle the removal
>> themselves, or to at least help defray the cost.
>>
>> This is very routine in Wisconsin, but I don't know the Atlanta
>> market.
>>
>> Joe
>
> That's one big oak tree. Are you sure it isn't 9-10 feet in
> circumference?

Sounds like a live oak--10 feet across at the base wouldn't be unusual.

> todd

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JT

"Joe Tylicki"

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

12/05/2004 9:51 PM

So far, he's not willing to look into other options. He talked with his
agent (I would have placed an anonymous phone call to the insurance company
instead), and he scared the bejeezus out of him. Claims he won't have
coverage if it falls on his house.

Joe




"Paul C. Proffitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You might try contacting the Woodworkers' Guild of Georgia
> (http://www.woodworkersguildofga.org). I belong to the Gwinnett
> Woodworkers Association (http://www.gwinnettwoodworkers.com) and could
> share any contact information you want to forward to me at our normal
> Saturday meetings.
>
> Paul
>
> BIG JOE wrote:
> > A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
> > yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
> > height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
> > area.
> >
> > They are quoting him $1200-$1500 to chop down, remove the tree and
> > grind the stump. I have tried to get him to look into talking to
> > someone who is interested in the lumber to either handle the removal
> > themselves, or to at least help defray the cost.
> >
> > This is very routine in Wisconsin, but I don't know the Atlanta
> > market.
> >
> > Joe
>

n

/..

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

26/05/2004 3:30 AM

By 16 May 2004 12:15:02 GMT, Ed Clarke <[email protected]>
decided to post "Re: Any interested parties in Atlanta area?" to
rec.woodworking:

>In article <[email protected]>, Dave Mundt wrote:
>> Greetings and salutations....
>>
>> On 12 May 2004 11:55:35 -0700, [email protected] (BIG JOE) wrote:
>>
>>>A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
>>>yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
>>>height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
>>>area.
>
>Please please post the pictures! A nine foot diameter oak is bigger
>than any that I've ever seen. I'm not even sure where you'd get a saw
>with a blade that long. Pacific northwest? But something that large
>would usually be mounted on a tracked vehicle.

I bet it's circumference. That's awfully huge for an oak.

/..

JT

"Joe Tylicki"

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

15/05/2004 4:17 PM

Dave, some great ideas. At last check, he was able to find a couple guys
who saw some value in the tree itself, and quoted him substantially less.
He is still paying, though, and I can't get him to sub out the work as you
suggest and sell the lumber.

Joe


"Dave Mundt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings and salutations....
>
> On 12 May 2004 11:55:35 -0700, [email protected] (BIG JOE) wrote:
>
> >A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
> >yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
> >height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
> >area.
> >
> >They are quoting him $1200-$1500 to chop down, remove the tree and
> >grind the stump. I have tried to get him to look into talking to
> >someone who is interested in the lumber to either handle the removal
> >themselves, or to at least help defray the cost.
> >
> >This is very routine in Wisconsin, but I don't know the Atlanta
> >market.
> >
> >Joe
> It depends on how much "sweat equity" he wants to put into it.
> Taking down a LARGE tree like that is a challenging propostion, and
> the problems go up the closer it is to the house, or other
> buildings that could be damaged. Frankly, that does not seem
> like an out of line amount.
> Of COURSE the insurance agent put the fear of God into him.
> It is there job to suck as much money out of our pocket, while
> paying out as little as possible. That became a problem when
> the insurance industry became a "for profit" industry.
> How about this. Make a deal with the arborist to take
> down the tree, and chop up everything smaller than, say, 5"
> in diameter, making it into mulch. Might be able to get a
> better price for that job. Then...He could have the trunk
> and larger branches sawn up into lumber for fairly small amounts
> (there are, I am sure, a number of small sawmill owners in the
> area that would be happy to do it for $0.25/board foot or less).
> He could then sell the lumber for $0.75/board foot or so.
> He could cut some of the medium sized limbs (say, 12"
> diameter or less) into short lengths and sell them as bowl
> blanks for woodturners at $1.00 or $2.00 each. Note that the
> cut ends need to be sealed with wax, or latex paint or
> something, to keep them from from checking.
> now...all this requires a certian amount of effort
> on his part. However, I suspect that a posting to THIS
> news group would bring a LOT of woodworkers out of the
> woodwork (as it were) with interest in good lumber at
> a bargain price.
> Alternatively, he might contact some of the sawyers
> and see if they would be interested in taking it on
> commission...say a 60%/40% split.
> One thing that is VERY important to do is to run
> over it ALL with a metal detector,a nd, use bright red
> spray paint to mark ANY metal in the wood. There is nothing
> that makes a sawyer grumpier than having to resharpen or
> replace a blade that has tried to cut a tire iron that
> some idiot left in the crotch of a tree 30 years ago.
> Luckily, bullets are fair game, as they are so
> soft that they don't bother the blade. As a matter of fact,
> a friend of mine and I were sawing up a trunk for bowl
> blanks a bit ago, and, cut through what looked like about
> a .45 cal slug embedded DEEP in a tree. It COULD have
> been Civil War vintage, although I suspect that it
> is more likely to have been from the 20s or so. Alas,
> it was on the part of the trunk that was going away
> when it gets turned, so, there was no way to incorporate
> it into the design.
> Regards
> Dave Mundt
>

PC

"Paul C. Proffitt"

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

12/05/2004 8:52 PM

You might try contacting the Woodworkers' Guild of Georgia
(http://www.woodworkersguildofga.org). I belong to the Gwinnett
Woodworkers Association (http://www.gwinnettwoodworkers.com) and could
share any contact information you want to forward to me at our normal
Saturday meetings.

Paul

BIG JOE wrote:
> A friend of mine is looking into having a tree removed from his front
> yard. He says its an oak tree 9-10 feet in diameter and of unknown
> height. I am trying to get pictures, I don't live in the Atlanta
> area.
>
> They are quoting him $1200-$1500 to chop down, remove the tree and
> grind the stump. I have tried to get him to look into talking to
> someone who is interested in the lumber to either handle the removal
> themselves, or to at least help defray the cost.
>
> This is very routine in Wisconsin, but I don't know the Atlanta
> market.
>
> Joe

JT

"Joe Tylicki"

in reply to [email protected] (BIG JOE) on 12/05/2004 11:55 AM

12/05/2004 9:43 PM


Oops, yes, better divide that by pi.

Joe


>
> That's one big oak tree. Are you sure it isn't 9-10 feet in
circumference?
>
> todd
>
>


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