I know it is a sin to talk about any colored finish on cherry in this group
but I have to make a headboard to match some cherry furniture we bought. My
Flexner book " Understanding Wood Finishing" talks about either using a gel
stain to avoid the blotchy nature of cherry or to use a dye on maple as the
grain is so similar. I can of course start doing experiments but I thought
first I would see if anyone in this group has had a similar task to do and
if so, how you did it.
TIA
Dick Snyder
Dick Snyder wrote:
> I know it is a sin to talk about any colored finish on cherry in this group
> but I have to make a headboard to match some cherry furniture we bought. My
> Flexner book " Understanding Wood Finishing" talks about either using a gel
> stain to avoid the blotchy nature of cherry or to use a dye on maple as the
> grain is so similar. I can of course start doing experiments but I thought
> first I would see if anyone in this group has had a similar task to do and
> if so, how you did it.
>
> TIA
>
> Dick Snyder
>
>
Try doing a google search for:
Great wood finishes: a step-by-step guide to beautiful results
By Jeff Jewitt
In Chapter 10 Jeff gives step by step instructions.
It looks like at least part of the book is on line but I'd suggest
either the library or purchasing a copy. It's another good reference
book.
(watch for word wrap in the link below)
http://books.google.com/books?id=Wg6I_eaZO8kC&pg=PA222&lpg=PA222&dq=jeff+jewitt+aged+cherry+finish&source=bl&ots=IqTyU2gUif&sig=UyjFaRMRVS_wp7maFuyRUIuzSog&hl=en&ei=wxvOStuGMcLDlAfFsoypCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false
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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> --snip of his quote-- What he didn't say is that 5-10 years later,
> the crap is damnear black, as the cherry continues to darken under it.
> (Got pics of that, Tawmy?)
Damn, but it's good to have you wrecking again. C-less!
ROFLMAO!
Well that's pretty much the classic finish for Cherry.. Boiled linseed oil
and garnet shellac and maybe some brown wax on top of the shellac to darken
it slightly more.. I prefer to use a clear oil/varnish mix as the base
coat.. There's several out there you can but or make your own. I'm more
confident the mix will form a harder base coat than just "boiled" linseed
oil.. Also in case you're not aware of it, don't put any vases etc on top
of it for at least six months or more. The wood will darken naturally and
if you have something covering a portion it, that part will not darken at
the same rate and leave a visable spot on the wood.. Eventually it will
catch up over time if you remove the vase but is a bit unnerving when it
happens..
Bob Flexner has a new revised "Understanding Wood finishes" book out, which
I think is one of the best books out on the topic.. good luck...
"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:56210334-90ca-4756-8f90-fba55a0c793c@l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> I'm making a cherry entertainment center, though I don't plan on
> staining it. I'll apply linseed oil then coat with shellac before
> topcoating with a finish coat. I suppose you could use a tinted
> shellac to match the color you want, before topcoating with a finish
> coat.
>
> One of my references is this site: http://www.finishwiz.com/cherry04.htm
>
> Sonny
>
Sorry.. I can see your original thread message now in Swingman's response..
my newsreader started with Sonny's.. so was responding to that without
seeing original where you mention Flexner and are looking for a stain..
"Jim Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well that's pretty much the classic finish for Cherry.. Boiled linseed oil
> and garnet shellac and maybe some brown wax on top of the shellac to
> darken it slightly more.. I prefer to use a clear oil/varnish mix as the
> base coat.. There's several out there you can but or make your own. I'm
> more confident the mix will form a harder base coat than just "boiled"
> linseed oil.. Also in case you're not aware of it, don't put any vases
> etc on top of it for at least six months or more. The wood will darken
> naturally and if you have something covering a portion it, that part will
> not darken at the same rate and leave a visable spot on the wood..
> Eventually it will catch up over time if you remove the vase but is a bit
> unnerving when it happens..
>
> Bob Flexner has a new revised "Understanding Wood finishes" book out,
> which I think is one of the best books out on the topic.. good luck...
>
> "Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:56210334-90ca-4756-8f90-fba55a0c793c@l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm making a cherry entertainment center, though I don't plan on
>> staining it. I'll apply linseed oil then coat with shellac before
>> topcoating with a finish coat. I suppose you could use a tinted
>> shellac to match the color you want, before topcoating with a finish
>> coat.
>>
>> One of my references is this site: http://www.finishwiz.com/cherry04.htm
>>
>> Sonny
>>
>
I'm making a cherry entertainment center, though I don't plan on
staining it. I'll apply linseed oil then coat with shellac before
topcoating with a finish coat. I suppose you could use a tinted
shellac to match the color you want, before topcoating with a finish
coat.
One of my references is this site: http://www.finishwiz.com/cherry04.htm
Sonny
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:21:42 -0500, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>Dick Snyder wrote:
>> I know it is a sin to talk about any colored finish on cherry in this group
>> but I have to make a headboard to match some cherry furniture we bought. My
>> Flexner book " Understanding Wood Finishing" talks about either using a gel
>> stain to avoid the blotchy nature of cherry or to use a dye on maple as the
>> grain is so similar. I can of course start doing experiments but I thought
>> first I would see if anyone in this group has had a similar task to do and
>> if so, how you did it.
>
>Since Tom Watson didn't jump in here, let me do it for him with a nugget
>of excellent info on getting that dark cherry color. This is from one of
>his previous posts on the subject:
--snip of his quote-- What he didn't say is that 5-10 years later,
the crap is damnear black, as the cherry continues to darken under it.
(Got pics of that, Tawmy?)
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:56210334-90ca-4756-8f90-fba55a0c793c@l31g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> I'm making a cherry entertainment center, though I don't plan on
> staining it. I'll apply linseed oil then coat with shellac before
> topcoating with a finish coat. I suppose you could use a tinted
> shellac to match the color you want, before topcoating with a finish
> coat.
>
> One of my references is this site: http://www.finishwiz.com/cherry04.htm
>
> Sonny
Thanks for the website. While I am looking for a finish that is quite dark,
this was a good reference and I have book marked it for future cherry
projects.
Dick
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:10:36 -0500, the infamous Tom Watson
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:51:46 -0800, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>--snip of his quote-- What he didn't say is that 5-10 years later,
>>the crap is damnear black, as the cherry continues to darken under it.
>>(Got pics of that, Tawmy?)
>>
>
>
>You really don't understand this finishing thing too well.
Are you saying that under your special finish, that cherry does not
continue to darken with age and sunlight? Gee Whillikers!
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:51:46 -0800, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>--snip of his quote-- What he didn't say is that 5-10 years later,
>the crap is damnear black, as the cherry continues to darken under it.
>(Got pics of that, Tawmy?)
>
You really don't understand this finishing thing too well.
Regards,
Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:59:16 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> scrawled the following:
>In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>> --snip of his quote-- What he didn't say is that 5-10 years later,
>> the crap is damnear black, as the cherry continues to darken under it.
>> (Got pics of that, Tawmy?)
>
>Damn, but it's good to have you wrecking again. C-less!
>
>ROFLMAO!
Thanks, Dave. I perspirate that muchly.
---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
Dick Snyder wrote:
> I know it is a sin to talk about any colored finish on cherry in this group
> but I have to make a headboard to match some cherry furniture we bought. My
> Flexner book " Understanding Wood Finishing" talks about either using a gel
> stain to avoid the blotchy nature of cherry or to use a dye on maple as the
> grain is so similar. I can of course start doing experiments but I thought
> first I would see if anyone in this group has had a similar task to do and
> if so, how you did it.
Since Tom Watson didn't jump in here, let me do it for him with a nugget
of excellent info on getting that dark cherry color. This is from one of
his previous posts on the subject:
<quote>
For about my last ten years in business I did almost nothing but build
cabinets out of cherry.
What most of my customers thought of as "cherry" was the deep and dark
color of cherry that was at least more than five years old.
There were some that could be educated to the idea that it starts out
light and then darkens over time.
Most wanted that aged color immediately.
So, having a family to feed, I stained their cherry.
Here is the recipe for aged cherry using TransTint dyes in one gallon
of nitro lacquer finish:
2 tsp medium brown.
2 tsp red.
1 tsp blue.
1 tsp yellow.
This gives you a deep red color without much brown.
If you want more brown, do the obvious.
Regards,
Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
</quote>
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