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"cc"

04/04/2007 2:49 PM

DC setup using garbage can and y connector

Have 2 port DC with 4' openings..FH 1200 cm model (yea, I know real CM
is less)plan on using a garbage can with port in/port out top for
catching the larger pieces priior to hitting the DC itself...if I put
a "y" off the "in" port on the lid, will I have enough suction to
dedicate one run to the saw and the other run to a secondary tool?
Can use blast gates to shut of either side as needed..

Would prefer to run a dedicated hose off one of the two ports at the
DC itself, and then a hose to the garbage can, and then "y" off the
intake port support two more tools as needed..

only envision running one tool at a time however it is set up...please
reply ASAP as I hope to start the work tonight..thanks all...


This topic has 15 replies

mr

"marc rosen"

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

04/04/2007 3:12 PM

Hey CC,
A unit with about 1200 cfm would not effectively handle two machines
so your suggestion to use blast gates is the right way to go. How long
will the hose run? If it is very long , say 20 feet then you would
get better efficiency if you ran a long section of 4 inch PVC overhead
and dropped a hose to your machine of choice. The smooth pipe has
less friction that the rippled hoses.
I would run only one hose out of the DC and use your garbage can as
the diverter/collector. Overall, you will probably collect most of
your dust in there- depending on what type of deflector is in the
trashcan.
Marc

b

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

04/04/2007 3:46 PM

On Apr 4, 3:28 pm, shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dude, if you are going to use pvc, make sure you run a bare,grounded
> wire through it. Otherwise you might go boom.

Shawn.......

you have just triggered your own nomination for the urban legend
propagation award.

<http://mywebpages.comcast.net/rodec/woodworking/articles/
DC_myths.html>

mr

"marc rosen"

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

04/04/2007 6:14 PM

Hey Shawn,
I neglected to mention that I did run bare wire in my DC plastic
pipes.

Marc

>
> Dude, if you are going to use pvc, make sure you run a bare,grounded
> wire through it. Otherwise you might go boom.

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 10:27 AM

On Apr 4, 6:46 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Apr 4, 3:28 pm, shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dude, if you are going to use pvc, make sure you run a bare,grounded
> > wire through it. Otherwise you might go boom.
>
> Shawn.......
>
> you have just triggered your own nomination for the urban legend
> propagation award.
>
> <http://mywebpages.comcast.net/rodec/woodworking/articles/
> DC_myths.html>

I can't say if a home system can generate enough static to cause an
explosion or fire but...

My shop-vac
sucking through a plastic hose
connected to a plastic trash can
connected to a flexible metal (Al?) dryer pipe
connected to a plastic adapter
connected to the frame of my contractor saw

can generate enough static to cause
A - a visible spark between the dryer pipe and the saw
B - a shock to me if I get in the way

Now I will probably win Powerball before this ever catches on fire but
I may get an unexpected shock while working with sharp power tools.
Luckily I have only been shocked once while underneath cleaning up but
it could happen again while working.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/rodec/woodworking/articles/DC_myths.html#what

Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 12:18 AM

shawn wrote:

>>
> Dude, if you are going to use pvc, make sure you run a bare,grounded
> wire through it. Otherwise you might go boom.
>
>

Oh criminy ... here we go again. :-(

Bill


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Larry Blanchard

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 8:25 AM

B A R R Y wrote:

>
> Let's not forget lightning strikes, an alien landing in the back yard,
> and winning Powerball. <G>

In order of probability :-).

--
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sp

shawn

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

04/04/2007 5:56 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Apr 4, 3:28 pm, shawn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Dude, if you are going to use pvc, make sure you run a bare,grounded
>>wire through it. Otherwise you might go boom.
>
>
> Shawn.......
>
> you have just triggered your own nomination for the urban legend
> propagation award.
>
> <http://mywebpages.comcast.net/rodec/woodworking/articles/
> DC_myths.html>
>
so be it. better safe than sorry.

The point is that it IS theoretically possible, and easy to guard
against. (I have seen a grain elevator go off.)

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 1:58 AM

It's theoretically posible (and more likely) to get hit by a meteorite too
but I'm not going to worry about it.

"shawn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> The point is that it IS theoretically possible, and easy to guard
> against. (I have seen a grain elevator go off.)

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 3:40 PM

Play with it a little. My Delta 50-850 actually seems to run
"better" with the extra port left open while the other port
is hooked up.

My very large DC has a 3hp motor and I have to
leave all ports open to get proper air flow. If I cut the
air flow back at the unit, it slows the unit down.


cc wrote:

> Have 2 port DC with 4' openings..FH 1200 cm model (yea, I know real CM
> is less)plan on using a garbage can with port in/port out top for
> catching the larger pieces priior to hitting the DC itself...if I put
> a "y" off the "in" port on the lid, will I have enough suction to
> dedicate one run to the saw and the other run to a secondary tool?
> Can use blast gates to shut of either side as needed..
>
> Would prefer to run a dedicated hose off one of the two ports at the
> DC itself, and then a hose to the garbage can, and then "y" off the
> intake port support two more tools as needed..
>
> only envision running one tool at a time however it is set up...please
> reply ASAP as I hope to start the work tonight..thanks all...
>

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 11:28 AM

CW wrote:
> It's theoretically posible (and more likely) to get hit by a meteorite too
> but I'm not going to worry about it.

Let's not forget lightning strikes, an alien landing in the back yard,
and winning Powerball. <G>

sp

shawn

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 6:59 AM

B A R R Y wrote:
> CW wrote:
>
>> It's theoretically posible (and more likely) to get hit by a meteorite
>> too
>> but I'm not going to worry about it.
>
>
> Let's not forget lightning strikes, an alien landing in the back yard,
> and winning Powerball. <G>


You mean to tell me that that powerball thing is a long shot?

sp

shawn

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

04/04/2007 5:28 PM

marc rosen wrote:
> Hey CC,
> A unit with about 1200 cfm would not effectively handle two machines
> so your suggestion to use blast gates is the right way to go. How long
> will the hose run? If it is very long , say 20 feet then you would
> get better efficiency if you ran a long section of 4 inch PVC overhead
> and dropped a hose to your machine of choice. The smooth pipe has
> less friction that the rippled hoses.
> I would run only one hose out of the DC and use your garbage can as
> the diverter/collector. Overall, you will probably collect most of
> your dust in there- depending on what type of deflector is in the
> trashcan.
> Marc
>
Dude, if you are going to use pvc, make sure you run a bare,grounded
wire through it. Otherwise you might go boom.

sp

shawn

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 4:15 PM

B A R R Y wrote:
> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>
>> B A R R Y wrote:
>>
>>> Let's not forget lightning strikes, an alien landing in the back yard,
>>> and winning Powerball. <G>
>>
>>
>> In order of probability :-).
>
>
> I would worry about the grounding of my home shop DC if it were powered
> with an improbability drive!

Not likely. :-)

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

06/04/2007 2:07 AM

Came pretty close to getting hit by lightning once.

"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> CW wrote:
> > It's theoretically posible (and more likely) to get hit by a meteorite
too
> > but I'm not going to worry about it.
>
> Let's not forget lightning strikes, an alien landing in the back yard,
> and winning Powerball. <G>

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "cc" on 04/04/2007 2:49 PM

05/04/2007 12:40 PM

Larry Blanchard wrote:
> B A R R Y wrote:
>
>> Let's not forget lightning strikes, an alien landing in the back yard,
>> and winning Powerball. <G>
>
> In order of probability :-).

I would worry about the grounding of my home shop DC if it were powered
with an improbability drive!


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