I have volunteered to make a box for a our town historical society's
anniversary celebration. The box will be used to store a time capsule to be
opened in 50 years. It is to be stored in the "History Center" (not buried
or anything like that).
It should be roughly 12"x18"x8". I have been given no other specs besides
"about so big". They are comfy with me doing whatever I want.
I'm going to try to make this thing out of locally felled lumber. It will
likely be made out of ash for the main box, with fumed white oak for
accents such as molding, feet and perhaps a turned medallion for the top.
Simply because I think I can get local ash and oak and I think they would
look pretty decent together.
Here's my question: The top needs to be "sealed" in some way, not
hermetically, but symbolically. How do I do this in a functional, obtrusive
yet attractive way?
That is, it would be nice to have some type of conspicuous
"seal/clasp/whatever" that would have to be broken to access the content.
The procedure to open/unseal the box should be self-evident because none of
us plan on being around in 50 years.
I would appreciate any suggestions on a combination of closure mechanism
(hinges, top slides into groove, etc) in conjunction with some type seal to
"lock" the box.
Thanks,
Steve
On Jul 7, 10:41=A0am, "StephenM" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have volunteered to make a box for a our town historical society's
> anniversary celebration. The box will be used to store a time capsule to =
be
> opened in 50 years. It is to be stored in the "History Center" (not burie=
d
> or anything like that).
>
> It should be roughly 12"x18"x8". I have been given no other specs besides
> "about so big". They are comfy with me doing whatever I want.
>
> I'm going to try to make this thing out of locally felled lumber. It will
> likely be made out of ash for the main box, with fumed white oak =A0for
> accents such as molding, feet and perhaps a turned medallion for the top.
> Simply because I think I can get local ash and oak and I think they would
> look pretty decent together.
>
> Here's my question: The top needs to be "sealed" in some way, not
> hermetically, but symbolically. How do I do this in a functional, obtrusi=
ve
> yet attractive way?
>
> That is, it would be nice to have some type of conspicuous
> "seal/clasp/whatever" that would have to be broken to access the content.
> The procedure to open/unseal the box should be self-evident because none =
of
> us plan on being around in 50 years.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on a combination of closure mechanism
> (hinges, top slides into groove, etc) in conjunction with some type seal =
to
> "lock" the box.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
Maybe you can find a local blacksmith to craft a set of bronze bands
that can go around the box and come together on the top, with a
soldered ring holding everything together?
-Nathan
StephenM wrote:
> I have volunteered to make a box for a our town historical society's
> anniversary celebration. The box will be used to store a time capsule to be
> opened in 50 years. It is to be stored in the "History Center" (not buried
> or anything like that).
>
> It should be roughly 12"x18"x8". I have been given no other specs besides
> "about so big". They are comfy with me doing whatever I want.
>
> I'm going to try to make this thing out of locally felled lumber. It will
> likely be made out of ash for the main box, with fumed white oak for
> accents such as molding, feet and perhaps a turned medallion for the top.
> Simply because I think I can get local ash and oak and I think they would
> look pretty decent together.
>
> Here's my question: The top needs to be "sealed" in some way, not
> hermetically, but symbolically. How do I do this in a functional, obtrusive
> yet attractive way?
>
> That is, it would be nice to have some type of conspicuous
> "seal/clasp/whatever" that would have to be broken to access the content.
> The procedure to open/unseal the box should be self-evident because none of
> us plan on being around in 50 years.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on a combination of closure mechanism
> (hinges, top slides into groove, etc) in conjunction with some type seal to
> "lock" the box.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
The perfect spot for a Klein Bottle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle
It will wow the folks and establish you with distinctive mathematical chops.
no thanks necessary,
jo4hn
... Not sure that description can be understood. Anyway, the answer was
that they steamed the pieceo of wood until it was spongy and then
forced it through the hole and once it expanded and dried it was a
puzzler.
Cool idea.
I think it was an arrow through an apple, heart or some such. The outer
edges of the arrow tip were folded in when steamed.
I can't recall the exact shape but there was a brain puzzler that
showed an impossible situation where on piece of wood was fit through
a hole in another but there was no way the piece should fit through.
Not sure that description can be understood. Anyway, the answer was
that they steamed the pieceo of wood until it was spongy and then
forced it through the hole and once it expanded and dried it was a
puzzler.
So, build a standard latch hasp type assembly where the top and bottom
pieces each have a tab with ahole aligned that you might typically
lock with a pad lock. Then make a dogbone shaped piece of contrasting
wood, steam the heck out of it, I think maybe even boiling it. Then
force it through.
Wild idea I know but might be worth experimenting. Should puzzle them
in 50 years.
On Jul 7, 7:41=A0am, "StephenM" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have volunteered to make a box for a our town historical society's
> anniversary celebration. The box will be used to store a time capsule to =
be
> opened in 50 years. It is to be stored in the "History Center" (not burie=
d
> or anything like that).
>
> It should be roughly 12"x18"x8". I have been given no other specs besides
> "about so big". They are comfy with me doing whatever I want.
>
> I'm going to try to make this thing out of locally felled lumber. It will
> likely be made out of ash for the main box, with fumed white oak =A0for
> accents such as molding, feet and perhaps a turned medallion for the top.
> Simply because I think I can get local ash and oak and I think they would
> look pretty decent together.
>
> Here's my question: The top needs to be "sealed" in some way, not
> hermetically, but symbolically. How do I do this in a functional, obtrusi=
ve
> yet attractive way?
>
> That is, it would be nice to have some type of conspicuous
> "seal/clasp/whatever" that would have to be broken to access the content.
> The procedure to open/unseal the box should be self-evident because none =
of
> us plan on being around in 50 years.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on a combination of closure mechanism
> (hinges, top slides into groove, etc) in conjunction with some type seal =
to
> "lock" the box.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
"William" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> and bottom slid together and were held closed by several inset, locking,
key
> pieces overlapping the seam. Make them in a contrasting wood so they stand
> out.
Hell, why do you need to do all that? If it's going to be opened only once,
then glue it completely shut and then maybe seal it in some type of airtight
plastic coating. How many thousands of years do they say that plastic lasts
in a landfill?
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> StephenM wrote:
>> I have volunteered to make a box for a our town historical society's
>> anniversary celebration. The box will be used to store a time capsule to
>> be opened in 50 years. It is to be stored in the "History Center" (not
>> buried or anything like that).
>>
>> It should be roughly 12"x18"x8". I have been given no other specs besides
>> "about so big". They are comfy with me doing whatever I want.
>>
>> I'm going to try to make this thing out of locally felled lumber. It will
>> likely be made out of ash for the main box, with fumed white oak for
>> accents such as molding, feet and perhaps a turned medallion for the top.
>> Simply because I think I can get local ash and oak and I think they would
>> look pretty decent together.
>>
>> Here's my question: The top needs to be "sealed" in some way, not
>> hermetically, but symbolically. How do I do this in a functional,
>> obtrusive yet attractive way?
>>
>> That is, it would be nice to have some type of conspicuous
>> "seal/clasp/whatever" that would have to be broken to access the content.
>> The procedure to open/unseal the box should be self-evident because none
>> of us plan on being around in 50 years.
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on a combination of closure mechanism
>> (hinges, top slides into groove, etc) in conjunction with some type seal
>> to "lock" the box.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
> The perfect spot for a Klein Bottle:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle
>
> It will wow the folks and establish you with distinctive mathematical
> chops.
> no thanks necessary,
> jo4hn
http://www.kleinbottle.com/
they'll make you a custom one whatever size you want
"Upscale" wrote:
>Hell why do you need to do all that? If it's going to be opened only
>once,
> then glue it completely shut and then maybe seal it in some type of
> airtight
> plastic coating. How many thousands of years do they say that
> plastic lasts
> in a landfill?
Sheet of 1/4" plywood, some glass tape and some epoxy.
Cut box and cover blanks from 1/4" ply, then glass corners together
inside and out.
Glass inside, let cure, then glass outside and cure.
When box is filled and closed, glass shut and paint.
Then find an artist or a sign painter to decorate painted surfaces.
Lew
"StephenM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> That is, it would be nice to have some type of conspicuous
> "seal/clasp/whatever" that would have to be broken to access the content.
> The procedure to open/unseal the box should be self-evident because none
> of us plan on being around in 50 years.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on a combination of closure mechanism
> (hinges, top slides into groove, etc) in conjunction with some type seal
> to "lock" the box.
I don't see much point in a hinge since it will only be opened once. What if
the top
and bottom slid together and were held closed by several inset, locking, key
pieces overlapping the seam. Make them in a contrasting wood so they stand
out.
If they are tight fitting and well glued in, opening would involve cutting
the key at
the seam with a saw or chisel. You could put three on the long edges, two on
the ends, or whatever looks good.
The keys could be in one of several forms - the overlapped triangles of a
classic "dutchman", overlapped circles, circles or diamonds joined by a
short straight waist section, etc.
-Wm