On Jul 11, 2:14 pm, Markem <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The new place has a tin roofed shed, I need to replace all the nails
> in the roof with screws (the water proof roofing screws). When walking
> upon a tin roof (corrugated steel) can you step off the rafters and
> not fall through?
Why would you have to step off? Aren't the existing nails hitting the
rafters?
R
I repair these roofs, although somewhat infrequently. I gave up on
replacement of the nails with screws as getting the nails out turned
into a real problem.
Dented tin, wallowed out holes, and snapped off nail heads. I made
more work than I started out with.
Go buy some Sonneborn NP1. It is an elastomeric UV resistant caulk,
and it is all I use for my roof repairs, and has been the only thing
for the last 10+ years or so.
Put your sheet of plywood up on the roof so you don't misstep, crinkle
or dent your deck. (The sheetmetal is only 29 gauge, and a probably a
low quality at that.) Take you caulk gun, a roll of paper towels, and
a stiff brush on the roof.
Brush off the nail heads to clean them. The gasket may come off, but
that isn't important. Make sure the nail is secured and hasn't backed
out (drive it back in if you have to.) Put a wad of NP1 directly on
the nail head and rub it in a circular motion around the nail head,
and then lift your finger off from the center. You should have
something that looks like a Hershey's kiss. Next screw.
Spec writers for commercial roofing plans call this encapsulation, and
it works. Whenever we do sheetmetal repairs on chimneys, flashings,
caps, anything that has screws or rivets in it we always use this
method.
The only screws I would put in would be if the roof was loose, it
rattled, or the nails let go.
Here's another tip. Cut your plywood in half so you can sit and work
on one, then move to the other and work your way around, rather than
to have to step onto the thin metal (dent!) and move a 4X8 sheet.
Robert
On Jul 12, 4:30 pm, spaco <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think the gaskets on the new screws will beat any kind of roofing goo.
> When a metal roof heats and cools, there is a lot of movement going on.
> If you plan to use this building for a long time, consider tearing
> the roof off and starting all over. Eventually the finish will come off
> the metal anyway, even if it is galvanized. Wanna know how I know?
>
> If you do this repair, make sure you deal with the ridge, too. The
> foam strips can come apart and cme out of there, allowing rain to come
> in when it drives hard.
> To get those old nails out without damaging the metal, I made an
> aluminum support plate for the claw of the hammer and the nail puller.
> It is a piece of about 1/8" thick aluminum, about 6 inches square. I
> shaped it so it fits right on top of the corregations of the roofing,
> extending to the valley on either side. That way, I can place it
> anywhere I need to in order to protect the roofing as I pry the nail
> out. If needed, a small,thin piece of plywood can be laid on the plate
> to add more beam strength.
> I don't envy you the job, but I pulled all the nails from a 12' X 16
> foot door that way and reused the steel to build up a permanent wall in
> its place. I didn't dent the metal at all.
>
> Pete Stanaitis
> --------------------
>
> Markem wrote:
> > The new place has a tin roofed shed, I need to replace all the nails
> > in the roof with screws (the water proof roofing screws). When walking
> > upon a tin roof (corrugated steel) can you step off the rafters and
> > not fall through?
>
> > Mark
> > (sixoneeight) = 618
Consider leaving the tin roof in place and covering it with a 'Garden
Roof' you could do that in a few hours! Details at: www.damp-solutions.com
Kind regards
Joe
Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 1:14pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Markem) doth
query:
The new place has a tin roofed shed, I need to replace all the nails in
the roof with screws (the water proof roofing screws). When walking upon
a tin roof (corrugated steel) can you step off the rafters and not fall
through?
I'm wondering why exactly you need to replace the nails with
screws. Nais not holding? I'd think some caulk would work. But, your
roof, your time, your money, your screws..
Based on all the tin roofs I've seen, sure you can step on the tin
and not fall thru. Of course, I'd say you're going to bend the Hell out
of the tin, but you shouldn't be falling thru.
JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso
"Markem" <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The new place has a tin roofed shed, I need to replace all the nails
> in the roof with screws (the water proof roofing screws). When walking
> upon a tin roof (corrugated steel) can you step off the rafters and
> not fall through?
\
In the days of my youth I walked all over tin (corrugated steel) roofs,
mostly barns ... but I weighed less and the tin of today may not be up to
the same standards as the tin of yore.
I would walk/stay on the rafters so as not to bend the tin ... I doubt
you'll fall through.
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:23:31 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Wed, Jul 11, 2007, 1:14pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Markem) doth
>query:
>The new place has a tin roofed shed, I need to replace all the nails in
>the roof with screws (the water proof roofing screws). When walking upon
>a tin roof (corrugated steel) can you step off the rafters and not fall
>through?
>
> I'm wondering why exactly you need to replace the nails with
>screws. Nais not holding? I'd think some caulk would work. But, your
>roof, your time, your money, your screws..
The nails have a rubber gasket which are very crumbly, maybe caulk and
that mobile home roof paint seems cheaper.
Thanks Mark
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:54:41 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Markem" <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> The new place has a tin roofed shed, I need to replace all the nails
>> in the roof with screws (the water proof roofing screws). When walking
>> upon a tin roof (corrugated steel) can you step off the rafters and
>> not fall through?
>\
>
>In the days of my youth I walked all over tin (corrugated steel) roofs,
>mostly barns ... but I weighed less and the tin of today may not be up to
>the same standards as the tin of yore.
>
>I would walk/stay on the rafters so as not to bend the tin ... I doubt
>you'll fall through.
I weigh less 2 years ago, just not as nimble as youthful days. Maybe a
sheet of CDX with rubber in places to spread the load...
Thanks Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:28:32 -0700, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I repair these roofs, although somewhat infrequently. I gave up on
>replacement of the nails with screws as getting the nails out turned
>into a real problem.
<snip of pro advise>
Saved and printed.
Thank you very much.
Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618
I think the gaskets on the new screws will beat any kind of roofing goo.
When a metal roof heats and cools, there is a lot of movement going on.
If you plan to use this building for a long time, consider tearing
the roof off and starting all over. Eventually the finish will come off
the metal anyway, even if it is galvanized. Wanna know how I know?
If you do this repair, make sure you deal with the ridge, too. The
foam strips can come apart and cme out of there, allowing rain to come
in when it drives hard.
To get those old nails out without damaging the metal, I made an
aluminum support plate for the claw of the hammer and the nail puller.
It is a piece of about 1/8" thick aluminum, about 6 inches square. I
shaped it so it fits right on top of the corregations of the roofing,
extending to the valley on either side. That way, I can place it
anywhere I need to in order to protect the roofing as I pry the nail
out. If needed, a small,thin piece of plywood can be laid on the plate
to add more beam strength.
I don't envy you the job, but I pulled all the nails from a 12' X 16
foot door that way and reused the steel to build up a permanent wall in
its place. I didn't dent the metal at all.
Pete Stanaitis
--------------------
Markem wrote:
> The new place has a tin roofed shed, I need to replace all the nails
> in the roof with screws (the water proof roofing screws). When walking
> upon a tin roof (corrugated steel) can you step off the rafters and
> not fall through?
>
> Mark
> (sixoneeight) = 618
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:05:03 -0700, RicodJour
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Jul 11, 2:14 pm, Markem <markem(sixoneeight)@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> The new place has a tin roofed shed, I need to replace all the nails
>> in the roof with screws (the water proof roofing screws). When walking
>> upon a tin roof (corrugated steel) can you step off the rafters and
>> not fall through?
>
>Why would you have to step off? Aren't the existing nails hitting the
>rafters?
Potential clumsiness?
Mark