I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
Joe
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:13:06 -0600, [email protected] () wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Joe Bleau <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
>>Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
>>tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
>>fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
>>and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
>>just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
>>
>>Joe
>
>Hey, do you think I could substitute "rec.woodworking" for
>"finewoodworking.com" in your post and have it posted there?
>
>
All except the "cost a few bucks part" Let us know how that works out
for you.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Joe Bleau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
> > and contributors.
>
> us dummyz cant reed gud anyway so ill just stay heer.
If you make the most of woodworking classes, you study hardwoods, you
do your woodwork, and you make an effort to be smart, you can be in
Finewoodworking.com. If you don't, you get stuck in irec.woodworking.
John K.
Could be just me but I was deeply offended when they wanted to charge
over and above the subscrip price for their website. A charge for
those who don't get the mag would be OK. But for those of us who do
and have for years...If the mag wasn't the quality it is I would have
dropped them over that. Instead I continue to enjoy the print version.
As for online, there is just waaaaayyyyy to much free on the net to
justify the extra cost.
Filtering out the OT's, Spam and Iraq body counts really isn't that
difficult. As for the skill level, If I didn't need to ask a dumb
question once in a while I probably would save that time poundin' keys
and put it to better use making sawdust.
Daryl
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:58:46 -0500, Mark Blum
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:16:23 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >And I'm *still* using the same ATM card. With only the bank's logo on it.
>>
>> Great!
>>
>> But how does that benefit you?
>>
>
>One benefit that occurs to me is that should anybody else get a hold of
>your card, they can't use it without your PIN code. Cards with the
>Visa/MC logo can be used without that information, therefore your cash
>is less secure.
>
>Personally I use my credit card for virtually every purchase I make, as
>it is more convenient to not have to bother with cash. I just pay the
>entire balance off each month so as to not have that convenience cost
>me extra.
Yep. I treat CC purchases like checks. I write a transfer from the
checking account into a credit card reserve account, then at the end of the
month clear out the reserve account to pay the bill. Works really well
with the various accounting programs; it was more work before those
programs.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
[email protected] wrote:
> Could be just me but I was deeply offended when they wanted to charge
> over and above the subscrip price for their website. A charge for
> those who don't get the mag would be OK. But for those of us who do
> and have for years...If the mag wasn't the quality it is I would have
> dropped them over that. Instead I continue to enjoy the print version.
> As for online, there is just waaaaayyyyy to much free on the net to
> justify the extra cost.
>
> Filtering out the OT's, Spam and Iraq body counts really isn't that
> difficult. As for the skill level, If I didn't need to ask a dumb
> question once in a while I probably would save that time poundin' keys
> and put it to better use making sawdust.
>
ONE word:
Handymanclubofamerica. I read the articles, I do NOT stick around for
the free drill guide.
..and WHAT has FWW even give away for free?, Huh? Huh?
Didn't think so.
42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
On Jan 27, 7:53 am, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
WOW! Great shot!
>
> Consider it borrowed.
I knew you'd like to see that if you hadn't already.
>
> Look at the area where the contrails go off the top left of the
> screen. That's right about where my little airplane would be like a
> kayak in the Perfect Storm. <G>
Rip the wings right off a Pitt. What about a guy in an
UltraLite?..hehehehe
You read and learn about safety/exclusion zones and I often thought
that a few miles were a bit over-cautious, but then I saw this.
I really like the way the air is slightly different between left and
right vortex...almost looking like a slide the width of the wingspan.
Like a huge sheet.
On Jan 27, 7:53 am, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2007 16:28:24 -0800, "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Every time I find myself on that site, I have to look up this shot,
> >which was a desktop for the longest time:
>
> >(dunno why I like it so much..just so incredibly powerful)
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/ycchmkWOW! Great shot!
>
> Consider it borrowed.
>
Another:
http://tinyurl.com/2wmnyx
On 14 Jan 2007 16:28:24 -0800, "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Every time I find myself on that site, I have to look up this shot,
>which was a desktop for the longest time:
>
>(dunno why I like it so much..just so incredibly powerful)
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ycchmk
WOW! Great shot!
Consider it borrowed.
Look at the area where the contrails go off the top left of the
screen. That's right about where my little airplane would be like a
kayak in the Perfect Storm. <G>
[email protected] wrote:
> But for those of us who do and have for years.
For those of us who buy it at UK prices, they can surely afford to fly
us over on a Learjet !
I sometimes buy Threads too, and that's even more pricey
Don Fearn wrote:
> I think it was "Robatoy" <[email protected]> who stated:
>
>
> >42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
>
>
>
>
> "WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?" is the question.
>
>
> (The mice told me.)
Where did your mice go to school?
Registering for the forums is free
Joe Bleau wrote:
> I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
> Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
> tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
> fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
> and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
> just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
>
> Joe
Don Fearn wrote:
> I think it was "Robatoy" <[email protected]> who stated:
>
>
> >42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
>
>
>
>
> "WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?" is the question.
>
>
> (The mice told me.)
>
If you got to the mice, you withstood a barrage of Vogan sharpshooters.
That in itself is meaningful.
I think my drill press is depressed.
Prometheus wrote:
[snipped for brevity]
>
> Far as "experitise" goes, I'd trust most of the regulars here to work
> in my shop unattended, and at least some have amazing abilities and
> knowledge. So how is the FWW forum better? Do they tell you how to
> make wood appear from nothing using only the power of your mind? :)
Real expertise is making do with what you have. Some of these
woodworking shows on TV, for instance, are not a reflection of reality
in most cases. "Now here, we'll cut the stack of 4 x 8 pre-laminated
sheets with our 8-blade gang saw. Then we move the slabs to our
computer controlled edgebander before boring the prerequisite 44 holes
per gable in our PTP unit."
TOH went the same way: "Then we ordered the Elba stone, we had it
crushed in Italy..blah, blah, blah."
We watch this for a while before we figure out that we're not George
Clooney, and we ain't getting Jessica Alba's clothes off.
I find the blend of expertise in here very comforting as many here know
less about this craft than I do, and the same amount know more than I.
What a great place to look good and stupid at the same time.
If I want hard-core, business-like solutions, there's always
http://www.woodweb.com/
Now there's a site (column on the right, called Knowledge Base) where
they deal with more 'pro' stuff.
Just saw this the other day: a package of 'pro' sponge brushes, next to
the 'pro' towels...wtf isn't 'pro' these days?
Toothpaste: Large, King-size, Jumbo. WTF is with that? The smallest is
now Large?....*peels off Andy Rooney mask*
My rant for today.
> >> >42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
> >>
> >> "WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?" is the question.
> >>
> >>
> >> (The mice told me.)
> >Where did your mice go to school?
> >
> Some place where they do arithmetic in base-13, apparently.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Hey yeah, it is 42 in base 13. Had to check:)
Lee Gordon wrote:
> <<The user tendency on WC that drives me batty are the users who start
> replies in the subject line! It's like they have 50 Don Dandos. <G>
> When folks do that, it makes threads very difficult to follow,
> especially if you missed the beginning of the thread.>>
>
> That practice bugs me, too, but I like Wood Central enough to put up with
> it. Fortunately, at the bottom of any message, after the message body and
> any pictures or links that the poster has included, there's a section called
> "Messages in this Thread" that shows a tree structure going all the way back
> to the initial message in the thread. Of course, that doesn't help you
> identify which thread a post entitled "Me Too" is part of unless you open
> "Me Too" and scroll down to the bottom to check its "genealogy."
>
> Lee
that sounds like the exact sort of thing that could be fixed with a
greasemonkey script.
B A R R Y wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:12:17 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Things often end up missing.
>
> I know of a Beech Sundowner
> <http://www.airliners.net
Every time I find myself on that site, I have to look up this shot,
which was a desktop for the longest time:
(dunno why I like it so much..just so incredibly powerful)
http://tinyurl.com/ycchmk
B A R R Y wrote:
> George wrote:
> >
> > One man's solution to the "healthcare crisis." Make them look you in
> > the eye as you pay the bill _yourself_ and see whether we can get things
> > under control.
>
> I'm with ya'!
After my sister's accident, the medicals bills (now well over $700,000)
went across the desk of someone who used to specialize in forensic
accounting for a very large construction company.
The hospitals involved either knew this scrutiny was taking place or
they're basically honest. Expensive, but honest. No evidence of 30
dollar boxes of Kleenex.
As usual, basically honest professionals are taking a bad rap for the
as*holes in any business.
Anybody in here who is a builder, or deals with builders, knows that
the bulk of them are pretty straight shooters.
It only takes a couple of bad apples.
WHICH reminds of a story.
A woman from one of the local service clubs was visiting a lawyer
because she noticed in her database of contributors that he never sent
any money even though he was a member.
"Why don't you help us out with a charitable contribution?" she asked.
"Let me tell you," he explained, "my wife is at home in a wheelchair,
my sister is in a very expensive rehab centre, my mother is in one of
the country's most expensive sanatoriums, my father is in very costly
physiotherapy, my 2 sons are in college, my daughter needs help in
keeping her head above water. I don't give them any money, why should I
give you any money?"
George wrote:
>
> Interesting to note the "this is not a bill" statements from Medicare and
> other insurances, where the participating provider discounts heavily and
> takes the write-off.
My brother-in-law was telling me that the hospital would submit a bill
to the insurance company (maybe via my BIL, I'm not sure) say for
$90,000 and the the insurance would say: "we'll give you $ 60K" and the
hospital would accept that....how can that work? Frequent Flyer Miles?
B A R R Y wrote:
> On
> occasion, my wife uses my wallet online 'cause I leave it next to the
> computer and her purse is elsewhere. .
Yup, uhuh...suuure...:) *wink, wink, say no more*
The old "purse-is-elsewhere" routine. Check!
*having a chuckle at Barry's expense*
Problem in this house, is that the company cards are somehow bolted
onto my accounts.
Sometimes she lets me use her purse. Most of the time, it matches my
shoes.
r
Joe Bleau wrote:
> I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
> Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
> tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
> fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
> and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
> just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
>
> Joe
I just signed up and logged in - all for free. I enjoy this group but
I'm all for any new sources of knowledge. Thanks for the heads up Joe.
Chuck
In article <[email protected]>, Joe Bleau
<[email protected]> wrote:
> an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
> and contributors.
Oh, really? Infinitely more?
Some may take that as an insult, and possibly wish to use foul language
in your direction, suggesting physically impossible auto-sexual
activity.
But y'know what? I think I'll just keep hanging out here with the dumb
guys.
I'd be too embarrassed to go to a forum where people are infinitely
more knowledgeable than me. Why, they'll probably know the question
whose answer is "42", and then the universe will disappear and be
replaced with something even more inexplicable.
I bet even Dr. Bernofski would shy away, and he knows *everything*.
Thanks anyway.
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:41:04 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Fri, Jan 12, 2007, 8:50pm (EST-1) dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca
>(Dave Balderstone) doth sayeth:
><snip> But y'know what? I think I'll just keep hanging out here with the
>dumb guys. <snip>
>
> I'm not sure what it says about me, but I'll stick with the dummies
>too.
>
> Anytime someone starts telling me how much smarer than me he is, I
>get suspicious.
Ahhh yes. Gotta add in a couple others to the *suspicious activities
list*- If a guy tells me he's not a liar, that's the first thing I
figure he is, and if he leads *any* conversation with "I'm a
Christian", I assume he's doing something that would shame the very
devil himself. People who are secure enough in what they're doing
don't bother to tell you what you're supposed to believe about them.
Funny how that works, isn't it?
Fri, Jan 12, 2007, 8:50pm (EST-1) dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca
(Dave=A0Balderstone) doth sayeth:
<snip> But y'know what? I think I'll just keep hanging out here with the
dumb guys. <snip>
I'm not sure what it says about me, but I'll stick with the dummies
too.
Anytime someone starts telling me how much smarer than me he is, I
get suspicious.
JOAT
I do not have the huge amout of faith needed to be an Atheist.
In article <[email protected]>, Leon
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Joe Bleau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
> > Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
> > tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
> > fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
> > and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
> > just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
> >
> > Joe
>
> If infinitely wiser, why do they pay to give advice?
How dare you question the infinitely wise!
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> >
> > And it comes in especially handy when she's traveling overseas as I can
> > make
> > sure she has available cash 24/7 anywhere in the world there is an ATM
or
> > credit card terminal.
>
> Not only handy, but that is where I get the best exchange rates. The
money
> changers at the airport are thieves to be avoided. Many places will not
> accept Traveler's checks either.
I know I sounded like a damn commercial ... but I can't tell you how high
the convenience/cost ratio of my youngest daughter's VisaBuxx card is for
my/our purposes.
> I still use a credit card for car rentals though. They can put a big hold
> on your debit card and you lose some of the available funds.
Yep .. I do the same.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 1/06/07
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 09:02:30 -0500, Tanus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Maybe I can. I haven't checked and I'm not about to. Getting a VISA or
>M/C is something I can do. That's not the point.
The funny part is that I didn't ask for it. All of my new ATM cards
simply arrived with MC or Visa logos on them as expired cards were
replaced. I have a feeling that Visa pays the issuing institution
something for the logo to be there.
Don't be surprised if your next ATM card arrives with a credit card
logo. I can no longer get an ATM card from the two credit unions or
one bank that I deal with without a credit card logo.
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:34:22 -0500, Joe Bleau <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
>Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
>tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
>fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
>and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
>just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
>
>Joe
Joe, you blow.
Don Fearn <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Do *you* want to know the Question?
>
> The Ultimate Question?
>
> About Life, the Universe, and Everything?
>
>
>
>
> I could find out, but it would take some doing.
>
> Meanwhile, I stick with rec.woodworking too.
>
> -Don (off to see the mice)
>
I'll have to think about it for a while, but I should be able to come up
with it. (-:
Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1168705378.514661.12930
@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
> If you got to the mice, you withstood a barrage of Vogan sharpshooters.
> That in itself is meaningful.
>
> I think my drill press is depressed.
>
Do your saws sigh happily when they're turned on?
Puckdropper
--
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To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
Swingman wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote in message
>
>> ..and WHAT has FWW even give away for free?, Huh? Huh?
>
> They are penny pinchers ... I just got in a pissing contest with Taunton
> over their website store's apparently well *hidden* shipping policy. Not a
> bad idea to make wRec'ers aware of:
>
> I ordered an item on a Wednesday morning via UPS 2nd Day air, expecting a
> Friday AM delivery ... the item didn't arrive until after 6 PM the following
> Monday!
>
> Taunton continued to insist/claim that what I paid for with "2nd Day Air"
> was delivery after office hours (6PM) on Monday, after five days in transit,
> and 3 1/2 "business days" from the date of the order!
>
> To me, 2nd Day Air is short hand for "day after tomorrow" when placed on
> Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday before noon ... and UPS agrees with me,
> although they include Wednesday without a qualifier, like "before noon" for
> the contiguous 48.
>
> To Taunton, and for all practical purposes for an unwary Taunton customer,
> because they just might not get around to processing your order until the
> next day, 2nd Day Air shipping is a crapshoot and only worth the price if
> you place the order on two days of the week, Monday or Tuesday ... maybe!
>
> Hey,Taunton ... you really need to say that!
>
> Long story short, after much bitching and exchange of e-mails, they
> reluctantly returned my money ... but only after they received the item back
> after sending me a "postage paid label" to return the goods.
>
> Although I subscribe to their website because I find it to be a time saving
> resource for some of what I do, it'll be a cold day in hell before I buy
> anything from them again ...
>
There are a few people on the Wreck that I've come to take at face
value. Swingman is one of them. I don't think I've ever read anything by
him that has been proven wrong or misleading. That's not to say he's the
only one - there are quite a few who give me the same feeling.
Therefore, from what he's said about the FWW PDFs, I'll give it some
more thought. However, my bitch with FWW is that I decided a few months
ago to try out the forums and join the online group. Since I'm a FWW
subscriber, it was only $15 a year and quite affordable.
I'm one of those people who doesn't have a credit card. I have my
reasons for that, and it's served me well. So I emailed and asked about
alternative methods of payment: snail mail cheque, PayPal, online bank
payment, etc. NO, I was told by Taunton. CC is the ONLY payment method
we take.
Well, sheeit. I had come to the conclusion then that I'd forego the
online subscription because of that answer.
For the most part I'm quite happy with my FWW magazine every month, but
I had come to expect more in customer service from them than that answer.
Maybe you're reading this, Taunton customer service. Maybe not. I think
i'll just use my $15 and put it towards my next Lee Valley run.
Tanus
--
This is not really a sig.
B A R R Y wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:34:21 -0500, Tanus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm one of those people who doesn't have a credit card. I have my
>> reasons for that, and it's served me well. So I emailed and asked about
>> alternative methods of payment: snail mail cheque, PayPal, online bank
>> payment, etc. NO, I was told by Taunton. CC is the ONLY payment method
>> we take.
>
> You can't get a Visa debit card from your checking account?
>
> With it, you can pay as a credit card while paying cash, with added
> fraud protection. My credit union debit card has a Visa logo whether
> I want it or not.
Maybe I can. I haven't checked and I'm not about to. Getting a VISA or
M/C is something I can do. That's not the point.
Tanus
--
This is not really a sig.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I ordered an item on a Wednesday morning via UPS 2nd Day air, expecting a
> Friday AM delivery ... the item didn't arrive until after 6 PM the
> following
> Monday!
>
Last I ever heard about their 2nd day(UPS), is that they do not guarantee
anything but NEXT DAY.
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:13:06 -0600, [email protected] () >
>Hey, do you think I could substitute "rec.woodworking" for
>"finewoodworking.com" in your post and have it posted there?
>
I say go for it!
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:03:27 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>My daughter has been in Tegucigalpa, Honduras for the last three years
>(I'm still trying to figure out how to get some hardwoods shipped home).
Ma'am, please remove the wood from your luggage... <G>
Does UPS do Honduras?
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:37:25 +0000, LRod <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>I'm a WoodCentral guy (http://www.woodcentral.com), as are a few of
>the others here: Lee Gordon, Charles Self, David Eisan, to name a
>couple. So far as I'm concerned, it's the best web based alternative
>to the wreck.
I occasionally read Woodcentral, but I really don't like the
interface. I think I've tried every sort order and option available,
but none sticks with me. The reviews and articles can be quite
useful, and I've enjoyed reading several chat transcripts.
The user tendency on WC that drives me batty are the users who start
replies in the subject line! It's like they have 50 Don Dandos. <G>
When folks do that, it makes threads very difficult to follow,
especially if you missed the beginning of the thread.
The relatively loose moderation style on WC does make it a rather
friendly, easy-going site. I wish I could get used to a display
style!
"Don Fearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I think it was "Robatoy" <[email protected]> who stated:
>
>
>>42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
>
>
>
>
> "WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?" is the question.
54
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just saw this the other day: a package of 'pro' sponge brushes, next to
> the 'pro' towels...wtf isn't 'pro' these days?
Free Advice.
> Toothpaste: Large, King-size, Jumbo. WTF is with that? The smallest is
> now Large?
One Size Fits All.
Actually the smallest size in toothpaste is now 'sample' and costs a buck.
<<The user tendency on WC that drives me batty are the users who start
replies in the subject line! It's like they have 50 Don Dandos. <G>
When folks do that, it makes threads very difficult to follow,
especially if you missed the beginning of the thread.>>
That practice bugs me, too, but I like Wood Central enough to put up with
it. Fortunately, at the bottom of any message, after the message body and
any pictures or links that the poster has included, there's a section called
"Messages in this Thread" that shows a tree structure going all the way back
to the initial message in the thread. Of course, that doesn't help you
identify which thread a post entitled "Me Too" is part of unless you open
"Me Too" and scroll down to the bottom to check its "genealogy."
Lee
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"Don Fearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I think it was "Leon" <[email protected]> who stated:
>
>>
>>"Don Fearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>I think it was "Robatoy" <[email protected]> who stated:
>>>
>>>
>>>>42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?" is the question.
>>
>>54
>
> It's 42. You're using the wrong base.
>
Oooohhh. ;~)
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Joe Bleau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
>> Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are
>> many tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group
>> with fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of
>> readers and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I
>> still enjoy; just pointing out alternatives to those who might be
>> interested.
>>
>> Joe
>
> If infinitely wiser, why do they pay to give advice?
>
>
Where else could you sell it?
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:16:23 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
> >
> >And I'm *still* using the same ATM card. With only the bank's logo on it.
>
> Great!
>
> But how does that benefit you?
>
One benefit that occurs to me is that should anybody else get a hold of
your card, they can't use it without your PIN code. Cards with the
Visa/MC logo can be used without that information, therefore your cash
is less secure.
Personally I use my credit card for virtually every purchase I make, as
it is more convenient to not have to bother with cash. I just pay the
entire balance off each month so as to not have that convenience cost
me extra.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:16:23 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
> >
> >And I'm *still* using the same ATM card. With only the bank's logo on it.
>
> Great!
>
> But how does that benefit you?
>
In two ways: first, I'm still using the same PIN, too, so I didn't have
to memorize a new one. Mostly, though, the benefit I perceive is that
it's not possible for me to accidentally debit a major purchase from my
checking account, instead of charging it on MC like I meant to, simply
by inadvertently pulling the wrong card out of my wallet.
"Tanus" wrote in message
> Maybe I can. I haven't checked and I'm not about to. Getting a VISA or
> M/C is something I can do. That's not the point.
I understand your reluctance about CC's ... although I have two, I rarely
use them and have the same aversion. Like you, and for the better part of my
life, I refused to touch the things, and still do for the most part.
But don't let the Visa on the check/debit card fool you ... keyed to a
checking account and only good up to the balance in the account, it is one
of the handiest things in the current world we live in, bar none, and one
thing I really don't want to EVER be without.
Better/safer than carrying wads of cash or a check book, and you can use it
anywhere you can use a credit card.
Although she doesn't have a checking account, I got a similar debit
(VisaBuxx) card for my youngest daughter when she was in Jr High School.
It's been safer for her than carrying cash in an urban setting, and
convenient for me, as I can transfer money from any one of my accounts on
the phone, or online, _instantly_ (and I mean INSTANTLY, 24/7)... that is
"peace of mind" for a father!
She's been in a shop in England and needed something, called me, and two
minutes later ... the time it took me to go online or call the number ...
the money is on her VisaBuxx card.
While she's away at college it is how I fund her monthly allowance, or any
emergency purchases that need to be made, like books, etc.
And it comes in especially handy when she's traveling overseas as I can make
sure she has available cash 24/7 anywhere in the world there is an ATM or
credit card terminal.
Mine has the same protections as a credit card as far as fraudulent use, and
I've been using it for online purchases, like the Taunton site, for the
better part of ten years.
Got to be one of the best inventions of our time, IMO!
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 1/06/07
"Joe Bleau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
> Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
> tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
> fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
> and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
> just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
>
There are plenty of good alternatives, but web-based groups are too hard to
use.
This is perfect for dummies like me.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> B A R R Y wrote:
>> George wrote:
>> >
>> > One man's solution to the "healthcare crisis." Make them look you in
>> > the eye as you pay the bill _yourself_ and see whether we can get
>> > things
>> > under control.
>>
>> I'm with ya'!
>
> After my sister's accident, the medicals bills (now well over $700,000)
> went across the desk of someone who used to specialize in forensic
> accounting for a very large construction company.
> The hospitals involved either knew this scrutiny was taking place or
> they're basically honest. Expensive, but honest. No evidence of 30
> dollar boxes of Kleenex.
> As usual, basically honest professionals are taking a bad rap for the
> as*holes in any business.
> Anybody in here who is a builder, or deals with builders, knows that
> the bulk of them are pretty straight shooters.
> It only takes a couple of bad apples.
Interesting to note the "this is not a bill" statements from Medicare and
other insurances, where the participating provider discounts heavily and
takes the write-off. An unrecognized public cost, surely, that write-off.
I wonder if the MSRP-equivalent cost they state at first is derived between
the ears or buttocks.
Were it not for the auto accidents, our ambulance would be broke. They pay
the full amount on our bills.
In article <[email protected]>,
Joe Bleau <[email protected]> wrote:
>I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
>Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
>tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
>fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
>and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
>just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
>
>Joe
Hey, do you think I could substitute "rec.woodworking" for
"finewoodworking.com" in your post and have it posted there?
--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - [email protected]
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1168820904.645536.282040
@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> B A R R Y wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:12:17 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Things often end up missing.
>>
>> I know of a Beech Sundowner
>> <http://www.airliners.net
>
> Every time I find myself on that site, I have to look up this shot,
> which was a desktop for the longest time:
>
> (dunno why I like it so much..just so incredibly powerful)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ycchmk
>
We used to live in West Floral Park, NY, just off the "path" (whatever it
is called) and a few miles away from the landing runway of Kennedy
International Airport (Idlewild). It was magnificent to see all those
747's and other biggies float by, and I really like being a passenger on
them better than on 767's. In addition, the Concord(e) was very beautiful,
but noisy as all "#311".
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In addition, the Concord(e) was very beautiful,
>> but noisy as all "#311".
>
> Ever been in one? They had to be fast, you couldn't stand to be that
> cramped for long.
>
Never been in one. I've seen the tiny things on the ground a number of
times, and I know (sort of) some bigwigs who liked to fly them. Among
them, Sir John Vane eventually got a Nobel prize, but Salvador Moncada did
not.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Don't be surprised if your next ATM card arrives with a credit card
>logo. I can no longer get an ATM card from the two credit unions or
>one bank that I deal with without a credit card logo.
I bet you can if you make a fuss about it. I've had my checking account at
Bank A for 25+ years, but (mostly due to better terms) I've done all my loan
business at Bank B. About 5 years ago, Bank A sent me -- unrequested -- a new
ATM card with a MC logo on it. Except it wasn't *just* an ATM card, it was a
debit card too. And it looked almost identical to the MC that I already
carried in my wallet. Worst of all, the paperwork accompanying it informed me
that my current ATM card would no longer be valid 30 days later.
So I called and protested. Told the customer service rep that the last thing I
wanted was a card that looked like a credit card, was accepted like a credit
card, and took money directly out of my checking account. Don't want it, don't
need it, not gonna use it. Want to keep using the old ATM card, too.
He told me that's impossible.
I pointed out that *every* time I've gone into Bank B for a loan, they ask me
when they're going to get my checking account business too, and I always tell
them the same thing: I'm happy with Bank A, and I'm staying there unless they
do something to tick me off.
Then I told the fella from Bank A "Now you guys have done something to tick
me off -- and I promise you that tomorrow morning I'm moving my checking
account to Bank B unless you find a way to make that work."
He said, "I can't do that."
I said, "Then transfer to someone who can."
Transferred. Same statement, same response.
Transferred again. Got somebody with some real authority that time, who said
"Let me see what I can do." An hour later, he called me back and said he had
it all fixed.
And I'm *still* using the same ATM card. With only the bank's logo on it.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
"Joe Bleau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
> Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
> tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
> fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
> and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
> just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
>
> Joe
If infinitely wiser, why do they pay to give advice?
"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In addition, the Concord(e) was very beautiful,
> but noisy as all "#311".
Ever been in one? They had to be fast, you couldn't stand to be that cramped
for long.
"Nova" <wrote in message
> Swingman wrote:
>
> > She's been in a shop in England and needed something, called me, and two
> > minutes later ... the time it took me to go online or call the number
...
> > the money is on her VisaBuxx card.
> >
> > While she's away at college it is how I fund her monthly allowance, or
any
> > emergency purchases that need to be made, like books, etc.
>
> My daughter has been in Tegucigalpa, Honduras for the last three years
> (I'm still trying to figure out how to get some hardwoods shipped home).
> We deposit money into her checking account here in the states and the
> funds are immediately available to her in Honduras via her debit card.
>
> One thing to watch is the fees associated with the debit card's use,
> especially overseas. Initially she would was using the card for a
> single $.75 purchase and was getting hit for a $3.50 transaction fee.
> She has since changed to withdrawing amounts of $50 - $75 cash at a time
> to cover small expenses incurred during the week avoided the multiple
> ATM fees.
We didn't have that problem two years ago with her VisaBuxx card in Europe,
but times change, so it is definitely something to watch for ... thanks for
the heads-up!
There is a $2.50 transfer fee (charged to my account) when transferring to
the VisaBuxx card, no matter the amount ... but that is the only charge,
other than the below, that has been associated with the card, with two
different banks, since we first started using it nine years ago.
For me that is cheap for an instant transfer of funds, and the peace of mind
it brings.
That said, don't overdraw the account (something that is not easy to do, but
can be done), because then they stick you with a $15 charge ... that's
happened twice in nine years and both times it came out of the next transfer
of her allowance, so she has always been REAL careful about it. AAMOF, she
keeps a close eye on it and will call me if it gets lower than $20 ... and
an added attraction is that I also get an instant e-mail alert from the
issuing bank when the account drops below $20.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 1/06/07
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:50:09 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>But y'know what? I think I'll just keep hanging out here with the dumb
>guys.
Me too.
I like FWW's searchable article indexes and downloadable pdf's, but
the forums aren't all that hot in my experience. The forums seemed
like they'd be great for those who get insulted and hurt if others
point out alternative methods or that they're repeating false
folklore.
Personally, I'd rather be told I'm wrong, or informed of other
methods. I learn things when others point out my mistakes, or
challenge my methods or opinions. Discussion... It goes both ways.
Off topic Usenet posts are extremely easy to deal with on either a
high tech (filters & proxy), or low tech (skip the posts) level.
"Joe Bleau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
> and contributors.
us dummyz cant reed gud anyway so ill just stay heer.
Tanus <[email protected]> wrote:
: I'm one of those people who doesn't have a credit card. I have my
: reasons for that, and it's served me well. So I emailed and asked about
: alternative methods of payment: snail mail cheque, PayPal, online bank
: payment, etc. NO, I was told by Taunton. CC is the ONLY payment method
: we take.
And I'm sure they have their reasons for that.
If you're going to deliberately eschew the default means of payment
for web services, you might not be able to get the full range of them. Why
are you even surprised, much less offended?
-- Andy Barss
Another option is the Woodshop News forum http://www.woodshopnews.com/forum/
and, unlike Fine Woodworking's, it does not charge a membership fee or
require a subscription to the magazine.
Lee
--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
_________________________________
Lee Gordon
http://www.leegordonproductions.com
On 13 Jan 2007 09:04:19 -0800, "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>We watch this for a while before we figure out that we're not George
>Clooney, and we ain't getting Jessica Alba's clothes off.
My last hopes, dashed...
I think it was Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> who
stated:
> Why, they'll probably know the question
>whose answer is "42", and then the universe will disappear and be
>replaced with something even more inexplicable.
Do *you* want to know the Question?
The Ultimate Question?
About Life, the Universe, and Everything?
I could find out, but it would take some doing.
Meanwhile, I stick with rec.woodworking too.
-Don (off to see the mice)
--
I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it
I think it was "Leon" <[email protected]> who stated:
>
>"Don Fearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>I think it was "Robatoy" <[email protected]> who stated:
>>
>>
>>>42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?" is the question.
>
>54
It's 42. You're using the wrong base.
-Don (NEW math student)
--
I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:12:17 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> Things often end up missing.
I know of a Beech Sundowner
<http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1126810&WxsIERv=Orrpu%20P23%20Fhaqbjare%20180&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Hagvgyrq&QtODMg=Ubkgba%20Cnex%20%28LUBK%29&ERDLTkt=Nhfgenyvn%20-%20Arj%20Fbhgu%20Jnyrf&ktODMp=Bpgbore%2011%2C%202006&BP=0&WNEb25u=Qnivq%20Fbzzreivyyr&xsIERvdWdsY=IU-XQY&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=274&NEb25uZWxs=2006-10-20%2006%3A32%3A19&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=Z-1912&static=yes&width=1200&height=812&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Orrpu%20P23%20Fhaqbjare%20180%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=3&prev_id=1134648&next_id=1102835>
that can hold 10' boards in the tail section. <G> Heck, it's
nose-heavy anyway!
I can see it now... Busted at customs! Not for drugs, cash, booze,
jewels, or women, but exotic lumber.
B A R R Y wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:03:27 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>My daughter has been in Tegucigalpa, Honduras for the last three years
>>(I'm still trying to figure out how to get some hardwoods shipped home).
>
>
> Ma'am, please remove the wood from your luggage... <G>
>
> Does UPS do Honduras?
Yes but to ship a 5 lb (15x15x10) package with a declared value of $30
from Buffalo to Tegucigalpa would cost just under $300 USD. She uses a
PakMail service that cost about 1/3 of UPS's charge but takes about
three times as long to arrive. Customs, especially at the Honduran end,
have been a problem. Things often end up missing.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:16:23 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>
>And I'm *still* using the same ATM card. With only the bank's logo on it.
Great!
But how does that benefit you?
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:34:22 -0500, Joe Bleau <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
>Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
>tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
>fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
>and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
>just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
I'm a WoodCentral guy (http://www.woodcentral.com), as are a few of
the others here: Lee Gordon, Charles Self, David Eisan, to name a
couple. So far as I'm concerned, it's the best web based alternative
to the wreck. However, I've been here longer. There is something to be
said for being able to post a picture directly, though.
I don't much care for the others, for a variety of
reasons--personality (of the site), personalities (of the players),
software...you get the idea.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> And it comes in especially handy when she's traveling overseas as I can
> make
> sure she has available cash 24/7 anywhere in the world there is an ATM or
> credit card terminal.
Not only handy, but that is where I get the best exchange rates. The money
changers at the airport are thieves to be avoided. Many places will not
accept Traveler's checks either.
I still use a credit card for car rentals though. They can put a big hold
on your debit card and you lose some of the available funds.
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:31:59 -0500, "Lee Gordon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Messages in this Thread" that shows a tree structure going all the way back
>to the initial message in the thread.
I do that.
> Of course, that doesn't help you
>identify which thread a post entitled "Me Too" is part of unless you open
>"Me Too" and scroll down to the bottom to check its "genealogy."
Exactly! When you've been gone for a new days, and there's 400
messages that start with "I agree with Lee", and "Me too", and "been
there, done that", and "LRod is right"...
Must... Get... By... That... Woodcentral is worth it! <G>
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:34:22 -0500, Joe Bleau <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I believe it cost a few bucks to participate but the magazine Fine
>Woodking has a website known as "finewoodworking.com." There are many
>tips, articles, tool reviews, and a very lively discussion group with
>fewer OT postings and an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
>and contributors. Not trying to raid this group which I still enjoy;
>just pointing out alternatives to those who might be interested.
You know, I think I'll pass as well.
What I still can't understand, no matter how long I poke around on
this group, is why OT discussion is so horrifying to people. I like
woodworking quite a bit, but I'll be damned if I'd visit a forum that
had ten or fifteen conversations about tuning up a handplane and how
to use a router recycling on an endless loop. It's the same reason I
let all my magazine subscriptions lapse- they were just repeating
themselves.
I come here to talk about whatever comes up on the group, because it's
entertaining, and I at least know that the folks here have enough
intellegence and motivation to engage in a hobby that requires
considerable investments in time, money and research (not necessarily
in that order.) That alone is a pretty effective pre-filter when
deciding who I wish to speak to, if looking at most of the other
groups on Usenet is any indication. And, I learned a lot here when I
started to look at making furniture when I decided to *graduate* from
being a remodeler with basic carpentry skills- so answering newbie
questions is sort of paying the community back for past assistance.
Far as "experitise" goes, I'd trust most of the regulars here to work
in my shop unattended, and at least some have amazing abilities and
knowledge. So how is the FWW forum better? Do they tell you how to
make wood appear from nothing using only the power of your mind? :)
Doug Miller wrote:
>
> In two ways: first, I'm still using the same PIN, too, so I didn't have
> to memorize a new one.
Good point, although my credit union will put any PIN on the card I want.
> Mostly, though, the benefit I perceive is that
> it's not possible for me to accidentally debit a major purchase from my
> checking account, instead of charging it on MC like I meant to, simply
> by inadvertently pulling the wrong card out of my wallet.
I know that feeling! <G>
I have a company charge card that allows no personal use. I keep the
three cards in my wallet in different colored Tyvek envelopes. On
occasion, my wife uses my wallet online 'cause I leave it next to the
computer and her purse is elsewhere. Twice she's put the cards back in
the wrong sleeves and I've had the company card out for major purchases
and realized what I was about to do.
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:11:04 GMT, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I occasionally read Woodcentral, but I really don't like the
>interface. I think I've tried every sort order and option available,
>but none sticks with me. The reviews and articles can be quite
>useful, and I've enjoyed reading several chat transcripts.
Of course everyone has their own tastes, but I basically have my
options set just like my newsreader does it for the wreck: reverse
threaded listing. The only difference is that the newest posts are on
top (both new thread and new posts to threads) as opposed to Agent,
where the new threads are at the bottom (unless there's a setting I
haven't found yet to change that).
>The user tendency on WC that drives me batty are the users who start
>replies in the subject line! It's like they have 50 Don Dandos. <G>
Guilty as charged, although I am no DD. I do it because it's an
effective way of getting readers to look at my message. Yes, I have
that much ego.
Frankly, I get tired (not on usenet because it works differently) of
seeing 25 straight copies of the original subject line with "Re:" in
front of them. How unoriginal. But I realize usenet works a little
differently--see below.
>When folks do that, it makes threads very difficult to follow,
>especially if you missed the beginning of the thread.
But the entire thread is there, so there is context. With Agent (and
maybe other readers on usenet) when you change the subject line, the
reply is taken out of the thread. That and failing to quote any of the
material in the post being replied to is what is so maddening about
DD. It doesn't work that way at WC.
>The relatively loose moderation style on WC does make it a rather
>friendly, easy-going site. I wish I could get used to a display
>style!
Ellis does a first class job.
--
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997
email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.
Mark Blum wrote:
>
> One benefit that occurs to me is that should anybody else get a hold of
> your card, they can't use it without your PIN code. Cards with the
> Visa/MC logo can be used without that information, therefore your cash
> is less secure.
It would be a benefit if it were true.
Debit cards run as credit cards have all the fraud protections of a
credit card:
<http://usa.visa.com/personal/security/visa_security_program/zero_liability.html?it=il|/personal/security/index.html|Zero%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Liability>
Of course, if the transaction uses a PIN, none of the above applies.
> Personally I use my credit card for virtually every purchase I make, as
> it is more convenient to not have to bother with cash. I just pay the
> entire balance off each month so as to not have that convenience cost
> me extra.
Same here. Not to mention bonus points. <G>
I've heard that studies show that we spends less when using cash. We
budget with Quicken, so we know exactly where we spend, regardless of
how we spend it.
"Robatoy" wrote in message
> ..and WHAT has FWW even give away for free?, Huh? Huh?
They are penny pinchers ... I just got in a pissing contest with Taunton
over their website store's apparently well *hidden* shipping policy. Not a
bad idea to make wRec'ers aware of:
I ordered an item on a Wednesday morning via UPS 2nd Day air, expecting a
Friday AM delivery ... the item didn't arrive until after 6 PM the following
Monday!
Taunton continued to insist/claim that what I paid for with "2nd Day Air"
was delivery after office hours (6PM) on Monday, after five days in transit,
and 3 1/2 "business days" from the date of the order!
To me, 2nd Day Air is short hand for "day after tomorrow" when placed on
Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday before noon ... and UPS agrees with me,
although they include Wednesday without a qualifier, like "before noon" for
the contiguous 48.
To Taunton, and for all practical purposes for an unwary Taunton customer,
because they just might not get around to processing your order until the
next day, 2nd Day Air shipping is a crapshoot and only worth the price if
you place the order on two days of the week, Monday or Tuesday ... maybe!
Hey,Taunton ... you really need to say that!
Long story short, after much bitching and exchange of e-mails, they
reluctantly returned my money ... but only after they received the item back
after sending me a "postage paid label" to return the goods.
Although I subscribe to their website because I find it to be a time saving
resource for some of what I do, it'll be a cold day in hell before I buy
anything from them again ...
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I think it was "Robatoy" <[email protected]> who stated:
>42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
"WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?" is the question.
(The mice told me.)
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I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it
"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I've heard that studies show that we spends less when using cash.
One man's solution to the "healthcare crisis." Make them look you in the
eye as you pay the bill _yourself_ and see whether we can get things under
control.
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:120120072050099093%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Joe Bleau
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> an infinitely more knoweldgeable base of readers
>> and contributors.
>
> Oh, really? Infinitely more?
>
> Some may take that as an insult, and possibly wish to use foul language
> in your direction, suggesting physically impossible auto-sexual
> activity.
>
Some may realize that knowledgeability is assumed when in agreement,
ignorance when in disagreement. Can you say "halo effect?"
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:34:21 -0500, Tanus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I'm one of those people who doesn't have a credit card. I have my
>reasons for that, and it's served me well. So I emailed and asked about
>alternative methods of payment: snail mail cheque, PayPal, online bank
>payment, etc. NO, I was told by Taunton. CC is the ONLY payment method
>we take.
You can't get a Visa debit card from your checking account?
With it, you can pay as a credit card while paying cash, with added
fraud protection. My credit union debit card has a Visa logo whether
I want it or not.
In article <[email protected]>, "Mike in Arkansas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Don Fearn wrote:
>> I think it was "Robatoy" <[email protected]> who stated:
>>
>>
>> >42 <-------- that much I know. I just need a question now.
>>
>> "WHAT DO YOU GET IF YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?" is the question.
>>
>>
>> (The mice told me.)
>Where did your mice go to school?
>
Some place where they do arithmetic in base-13, apparently.
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Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
"Prometheus" wrote in message
> It's the same reason I
> let all my magazine subscriptions lapse- they were just repeating
> themselves.
Bingo ... I don't subscribe to the magazine precisely because that.
However, I personally find the FWW subscription web site worth the price
because of the availability of a ton of articles in pdf format. If you're
continually searching for design ideas, and ways to solve woodworking
problems based on design, it's an excellent resource at a reasonable price,
IMO.
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Swingman wrote:
> She's been in a shop in England and needed something, called me, and two
> minutes later ... the time it took me to go online or call the number ...
> the money is on her VisaBuxx card.
>
> While she's away at college it is how I fund her monthly allowance, or any
> emergency purchases that need to be made, like books, etc.
My daughter has been in Tegucigalpa, Honduras for the last three years
(I'm still trying to figure out how to get some hardwoods shipped home).
We deposit money into her checking account here in the states and the
funds are immediately available to her in Honduras via her debit card.
One thing to watch is the fees associated with the debit card's use,
especially overseas. Initially she would was using the card for a
single $.75 purchase and was getting hit for a $3.50 transaction fee.
She has since changed to withdrawing amounts of $50 - $75 cash at a time
to cover small expenses incurred during the week avoided the multiple
ATM fees.
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Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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