Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
Now what to do?
I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
compressor I was told they would not.
For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
> For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
> finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
> a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
The gun you choose will be largely dependant on the CFM capacity of your
compressor. Many HVLP spray guns need 10 or more CFM at 40psi, while some of
the newer gun designs can work with less, maybe 5-7 CFM. If you're going to
be finishing smaller items, a touch-up gun may be all you need. They have a
smaller spray pattern than regular guns, but also they use a lot less air
(2-3 CFM), making them useable with many of the smaller compressors.
Another factor you need to consider is the size of the nozzle that comes
with the gun. For spraying thinner coatings you need a smaller tip. The
better makes of spray guns will have a range of nozzle sizes available. If
you're not sure of what you'll need, the advice of a knowledgeable person is
invaluable. Someone else recommended homesteadfinishing.com and I second
that. Give them a call, tell them what finish you'll be spraying and the
capacity of your compressor and they'll recommend a model of gun and the
appropriate tip size.
If you're going to be doing a fair amount of finishing, that is, spraying
for a half hour or more at a time, you need to consider the duty cycle of
your compressor. Most portable compressors have a duty cycle of 50%, rated
per hour of usage. That is, no more than a half hour's use every hour. If
you run more than this over an extended period of time you'll likely damage
or burn out the compressor. If your spray gun needs 6 CFM you'll need 12 CFM
at the compressor for extended use.
If you're going to be spraying the odd box or two then perhaps a touch-up
gun is really all you need.
> The gravity fed hvlp guns (with the cup on top, as seen in car body shops)
> require much less air and probably can run on your compressor.
Actually, HVLP guns consume a lot of air (High Volume Low Velocity) and the
type of guns used in body shops typically require an industrial-sized
compressor. Also, the type of feed doesn't affect the air volume needed to
atomize the finish. Many manufacturers offer the same model in gravity feed,
siphon feed, and pressure feed, and the air consumption is the same for all
configurations.
> So what is the advantages/disadvantages of the different feed types?
Gravity feed guns do not use much less air, as someone else has suggested.
You'll find that guns which come in gravity, siphon, and pressure feed
versions have the same air consumption specs
http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/walcom2.htm
Between the gravity feed and the siphon feed, it's mainly a matter of
preference. The gravity feed guns have the cup on top, are easier to clean,
and are more convenient for spraying small amounts of finish. The siphon
feed guns have the cup on the bottom. Some people prefer the feel of a lower
center of gravity.
The pressure feed guns are typically fed from a remote, pressurized pot, but
you can also get pressurized gravity feed and pressurized siphon feed. The
pressurized feed remote pot guns are more compact and are easier to work
with in confined spaces such as cabinet interiors, and you can easily spray
upside down or sideways without any problems. Because you're dealing with
larger containers and lengths of hose, remote pots aren't very convenient
for small jobs or frequent finish changes, but are great for production line
work. Another important advantage with pressure feed guns is the ability to
spray thicker paints and finishes. With a pressure pot and a large tip you
can even spray thick latex paints.
> I don't want to burst your bubble, but if you can get the compressor in a
> car, it's probably not big enough to do spray painting.
>
> Good spray guns need about 15 SCFM.
There's a bunch of newer conversion guns on the market that use less air.
They'd more accurately be described as MVLP (medium velocity). Most of these
work at 5-10 CFM and they're fine for most woodworking projects. A typical
25 gallon unit is usually sufficient to run these guns.
> Regarding the Devilbiss Finishline, have a look at the specs at Highland
> Hardware:
>
>
http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1776
>
> "one a conventional suction-feed type with quart cup, the other a 32-oz.
> gravity-feed type. The latter features excellent balance and lower air
> supply demand; a good choice for use with marginal compressors."
Two different models, two different designs.
<< Is there a gun that will give me the same results but faster? >>
A popular brand in body shops is the Astro line. I've used Astro tools for
years in automotive work and even the guys that come around in the big tool
trucks (think M*, M#, and S$) to the shop used to have Astro products in
addition to the factory stuff. So I bought the Astro HVLP DX7 with a 1.7 mm
nozzle to start with, about $98 with shipping. Added a 1.9 nozzle for even
heavier finishes ($38). Beautifully made tools, and Taiwanese not mainland
China if that matters. Uses 10 CFM@ 41PSI, or about 1.5-2 HP compressor. Do a
Google search for Astro tools for more detail.
Harbor Freight always has similar things, but in this case I went wirh
something I could be sure of and get parts for in the future. Hope this helps.
Joe
Greg said:
>The first thing I would do is get it set up to work with. Find a good home for
>it and pipe into the places where you will use air. They are probably not the
>same place.
>After all the pissing matches going on here about what to use, I went with
>steel pipe.
No pissing matches - just don't use PVC.
Greg G.
So what is the advantages/disadvantages of the different feed types?
mp wrote:
>> The gravity fed hvlp guns (with the cup on top, as seen in car body
>> shops) require much less air and probably can run on your compressor.
>
> Actually, HVLP guns consume a lot of air (High Volume Low Velocity) and
> the type of guns used in body shops typically require an industrial-sized
> compressor. Also, the type of feed doesn't affect the air volume needed to
> atomize the finish. Many manufacturers offer the same model in gravity
> feed, siphon feed, and pressure feed, and the air consumption is the same
> for all configurations.
Hi William,
Jeff Jewitt sells several types that do not need a lot of air. Suggest you
take a look here. Cheers, JG
http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/
william kossack wrote:
> Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
> depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
> Now what to do?
>
> I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
> and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
> compressor I was told they would not.
>
> For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
> finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
> a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:X_V3d.80044$MQ5.10473@attbi_s52...
> Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
> depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
> Now what to do?
>
> I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
> and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
> compressor I was told they would not.
>
> For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
> finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
> a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
What is the actual size of the compressor (in gallons), and what is the
maximum psi? The size largely determines what tools can be used. I have a
small PC 25 gal portable compressor. I've had it for about 3 years and have
sprayed many projects with it. It's never "run out" of air b/c it recovers
quickly. I also use it for brad, finish and framing nailers quite often
(but those tools don't require a lot of air), and also for dusting things
off. The tools that eat up the air are sanders, sand blaster machines, etc.
I don't think mine could handle those tools, although I've never actually
tried them.
> I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
> and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
> compressor I was told they would not.
I don't see why you couldn't get paint guns for yours. That sounds odd. I
think the fittings are universal. That would be a pretty strange compressor
that couldn't support a basic thing like a paint gun.
> For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
> finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
> a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
There are many guns on the market. I started out with a siphon feed gun
(cup on the bottom), but eventually moved to an HVLP spray gun. I like this
one much better b/c it requires much less psi, so there's a lot less
overspray. Clean it is easier too. You can get beautiful finishes with a
spray gun, but it's all in how you thin the paint, the spray technique, etc.
It takes practice, but it sure beats the cans of spray paint!
Good luck with your new tool!
-m
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:27:19 GMT, william kossack
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
>depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
>Now what to do?
>
>I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
>and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
>compressor I was told they would not.
>
>For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
>finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
>a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
accuspray 19c.
but it 'aint cheap....
"AL" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<Sz_3d.86301$D%.61787@attbi_s51>...
> A gravity feed gun requires much less air compared to a regular gun of the
> same make. They are also much easier to clean as there is only about an
> inch of "stuff" between where the paint enters the gun, and the nozzle. The
> cup on the bottom holds more material, and you can set down the gun without
> using a stand.
>
> I like my Harbor Freight hvlp gun. If you want a better one (but one that
> is still reasonably priced), have a look at the Devilbiss Finishline series
> of guns.
I have seen several people say that the HF HVLP is OK. When I look in
the HF catalog that I get every other day I see several different HVLP
units. What specific unit do you have?
Thanks
Dave Hall
william kossack writes:
>Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
>depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
>Now what to do?
I don't want to burst your bubble, but if you can get the compressor in a
car, it's probably not big enough to do spray painting.
Good spray guns need about 15 SCFM.
It takes at least a 5HP, two stage compressor with at least a 60, better yet
an 80 gal receiver to deliver that amount of air.
HTH
Lew
The gravity fed hvlp guns (with the cup on top, as seen in car body shops)
require much less air and probably can run on your compressor.
"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:X_V3d.80044$MQ5.10473@attbi_s52...
> Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
> depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
> Now what to do?
>
> I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
> and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
> compressor I was told they would not.
>
> For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
> finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
> a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:51:15 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
> <[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>
>
>
> >Good spray guns need about 15 SCFM.
> >
> >It takes at least a 5HP, two stage compressor with at least a 60, better
yet
> >an 80 gal receiver to deliver that amount of air.
>
> No, it won't do 90' of yacht hull in one pass, but a 2+HP
> compressor should easily work for most furniture, especially
> if an extra storage tank is connected.
>
That's right Larry. I used to use a 5HP (yeah... right...) 33 gallon,
single stage Sears compressor to spray and it worked just fine spraying
cars. It puked when you tried to run a DA, but it certainly sprayed just
fine. Suction guns will work just fine with under 10 SCFM. I have Binks
and DeVilbiss guns so I'd say they meet the previous poster's definition of
"good spray guns".
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
OK
its says
17 gallon
9.9 CFM
150 psi
Mike Pio wrote:
> "william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:X_V3d.80044$MQ5.10473@attbi_s52...
>
>>Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
>>depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>>
>>Now what to do?
>>
>>I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
>>and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
>>compressor I was told they would not.
>>
>>For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
>>finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
>>a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
>
>
> What is the actual size of the compressor (in gallons), and what is the
> maximum psi? The size largely determines what tools can be used. I have a
> small PC 25 gal portable compressor. I've had it for about 3 years and have
> sprayed many projects with it. It's never "run out" of air b/c it recovers
> quickly. I also use it for brad, finish and framing nailers quite often
> (but those tools don't require a lot of air), and also for dusting things
> off. The tools that eat up the air are sanders, sand blaster machines, etc.
> I don't think mine could handle those tools, although I've never actually
> tried them.
>
>
>>I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
>>and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
>>compressor I was told they would not.
>
>
> I don't see why you couldn't get paint guns for yours. That sounds odd. I
> think the fittings are universal. That would be a pretty strange compressor
> that couldn't support a basic thing like a paint gun.
>
>
>>For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
>>finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
>>a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
>
>
> There are many guns on the market. I started out with a siphon feed gun
> (cup on the bottom), but eventually moved to an HVLP spray gun. I like this
> one much better b/c it requires much less psi, so there's a lot less
> overspray. Clean it is easier too. You can get beautiful finishes with a
> spray gun, but it's all in how you thin the paint, the spray technique, etc.
> It takes practice, but it sure beats the cans of spray paint!
>
> Good luck with your new tool!
>
> -m
>
>
"william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:GM54d.88317$D%.53564@attbi_s51...
> OK
> its says
> 17 gallon
> 9.9 CFM
> 150 psi
>
That size is going to limit the air tools you can use, but I don't think it
limits you from using a paint gun. Like I said, I've been using them for a
few years now with just a 25 gal compressor without issue. There seem to be
others in this thread who know are more knowledgable about paint guns in
particular. Hopefully they will respond now that your specs are posted.
> Mike Pio wrote:
>> "william kossack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:X_V3d.80044$MQ5.10473@attbi_s52...
>>
>>>Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
>>>depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her
>>>car).
>>>
>>>Now what to do?
>>>
>>>I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
>>>and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
>>>compressor I was told they would not.
>>>
>>>For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
>>>finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
>>>a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
>>
>>
>> What is the actual size of the compressor (in gallons), and what is the
>> maximum psi? The size largely determines what tools can be used. I have
>> a small PC 25 gal portable compressor. I've had it for about 3 years and
>> have sprayed many projects with it. It's never "run out" of air b/c it
>> recovers quickly. I also use it for brad, finish and framing nailers
>> quite often (but those tools don't require a lot of air), and also for
>> dusting things off. The tools that eat up the air are sanders, sand
>> blaster machines, etc. I don't think mine could handle those tools,
>> although I've never actually tried them.
>>
>>
>>>I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
>>>and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
>>>compressor I was told they would not.
>>
>>
>> I don't see why you couldn't get paint guns for yours. That sounds odd.
>> I think the fittings are universal. That would be a pretty strange
>> compressor that couldn't support a basic thing like a paint gun.
>>
>>
>>>For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
>>>finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
>>>a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
>>
>>
>> There are many guns on the market. I started out with a siphon feed gun
>> (cup on the bottom), but eventually moved to an HVLP spray gun. I like
>> this one much better b/c it requires much less psi, so there's a lot less
>> overspray. Clean it is easier too. You can get beautiful finishes with
>> a spray gun, but it's all in how you thin the paint, the spray technique,
>> etc. It takes practice, but it sure beats the cans of spray paint!
>>
>> Good luck with your new tool!
>>
>> -m
OK thanks guys
I think I may try one of the spray guns rated for my compressor
PS most of my work is small joinery boxes. I've only done a couple
larger things like a chair or a small desk mainly because when I talk
about larger projects the response from the SWMBO is where would we put
it.
My next finishing project is a couple chairs that stay out side that I
have to sand and revarnish every year. I figure a spray gun would be
a lot better and cheeper in the long run than buying spray cans.
william kossack wrote:
> Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
> depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
> Now what to do?
>
> I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
> and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
> compressor I was told they would not.
>
> For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
> finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
> a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
Regarding the Devilbiss Finishline, have a look at the specs at Highland
Hardware:
http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1776
"one a conventional suction-feed type with quart cup, the other a 32-oz.
gravity-feed type. The latter features excellent balance and lower air
supply demand; a good choice for use with marginal compressors."
I have this one:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=43430
and normally use it with a 60 gallon compressor. But I've used it a few
times with a 6 gallon portable compressor (Hitachi 1.5hp, oil lubed) and it
worked fine for small projects. I wouldn't recommend always using it with a
small compressor though.
One thing you can't easily do with a gravity gun is spray upwards (for
example spraying the bottom of the top board of a bookshelf). Devilbiss
makes a disposable liner (like those reuseable baby bottles with the
disposable bags) which they claim will allow you to spray upward, but I've
never tried it.
Another option for small compressors is the Critter sprayer. It also has
the advantage of easy cleanup.
"mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > So what is the advantages/disadvantages of the different feed types?
>
>
> Gravity feed guns do not use much less air, as someone else has suggested.
> You'll find that guns which come in gravity, siphon, and pressure feed
> versions have the same air consumption specs
> http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/walcom2.htm
>
> Between the gravity feed and the siphon feed, it's mainly a matter of
> preference. The gravity feed guns have the cup on top, are easier to
clean,
> and are more convenient for spraying small amounts of finish. The siphon
> feed guns have the cup on the bottom. Some people prefer the feel of a
lower
> center of gravity.
>
> The pressure feed guns are typically fed from a remote, pressurized pot,
but
> you can also get pressurized gravity feed and pressurized siphon feed. The
> pressurized feed remote pot guns are more compact and are easier to work
> with in confined spaces such as cabinet interiors, and you can easily
spray
> upside down or sideways without any problems. Because you're dealing with
> larger containers and lengths of hose, remote pots aren't very convenient
> for small jobs or frequent finish changes, but are great for production
line
> work. Another important advantage with pressure feed guns is the ability
to
> spray thicker paints and finishes. With a pressure pot and a large tip you
> can even spray thick latex paints.
>
>
>
A gravity feed gun requires much less air compared to a regular gun of the
same make. They are also much easier to clean as there is only about an
inch of "stuff" between where the paint enters the gun, and the nozzle. The
cup on the bottom holds more material, and you can set down the gun without
using a stand.
I like my Harbor Freight hvlp gun. If you want a better one (but one that
is still reasonably priced), have a look at the Devilbiss Finishline series
of guns.
HVLP = high volume low pressure.
"Richard Clements" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So what is the advantages/disadvantages of the different feed types?
> mp wrote:
>
> >> The gravity fed hvlp guns (with the cup on top, as seen in car body
> >> shops) require much less air and probably can run on your compressor.
> >
> > Actually, HVLP guns consume a lot of air (High Volume Low Velocity) and
> > the type of guns used in body shops typically require an
industrial-sized
> > compressor. Also, the type of feed doesn't affect the air volume needed
to
> > atomize the finish. Many manufacturers offer the same model in gravity
> > feed, siphon feed, and pressure feed, and the air consumption is the
same
> > for all configurations.
>
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 03:04:10 GMT, william kossack
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I think I may try one of the spray guns rated for my compressor
>
>PS most of my work is small joinery boxes. I've only done a couple
>larger things like a chair or a small desk mainly because when I talk
>about larger projects the response from the SWMBO is where would we put
>it.
>
>My next finishing project is a couple chairs that stay out side that I
>have to sand and revarnish every year. I figure a spray gun would be
>a lot better and cheeper in the long run than buying spray cans.
this gun works fine:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=43430
for fairly thin (watery) finishes. it has stainless innards so it's ok
with waterbase stuff. it'll spray laquer fine, but don't expect it to
perform well with latex paint or heavy varnish.
it's cheap, too. $40. the same gun is sold a bunch of places at around
$100.
I stopped at Rocklers on the way home and picked up a Devilbiss
Finishline gun.
OK how do I use this thing? Not much in the way of instructions in the box
AL wrote:
> Regarding the Devilbiss Finishline, have a look at the specs at Highland
> Hardware:
>
> http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1776
>
> "one a conventional suction-feed type with quart cup, the other a 32-oz.
> gravity-feed type. The latter features excellent balance and lower air
> supply demand; a good choice for use with marginal compressors."
>
> I have this one:
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=43430
>
> and normally use it with a 60 gallon compressor. But I've used it a few
> times with a 6 gallon portable compressor (Hitachi 1.5hp, oil lubed) and it
> worked fine for small projects. I wouldn't recommend always using it with a
> small compressor though.
>
> One thing you can't easily do with a gravity gun is spray upwards (for
> example spraying the bottom of the top board of a bookshelf). Devilbiss
> makes a disposable liner (like those reuseable baby bottles with the
> disposable bags) which they claim will allow you to spray upward, but I've
> never tried it.
>
> Another option for small compressors is the Critter sprayer. It also has
> the advantage of easy cleanup.
>
>
>
> "mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>>So what is the advantages/disadvantages of the different feed types?
>>
>>
>>Gravity feed guns do not use much less air, as someone else has suggested.
>>You'll find that guns which come in gravity, siphon, and pressure feed
>>versions have the same air consumption specs
>>http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/walcom2.htm
>>
>>Between the gravity feed and the siphon feed, it's mainly a matter of
>>preference. The gravity feed guns have the cup on top, are easier to
>
> clean,
>
>>and are more convenient for spraying small amounts of finish. The siphon
>>feed guns have the cup on the bottom. Some people prefer the feel of a
>
> lower
>
>>center of gravity.
>>
>>The pressure feed guns are typically fed from a remote, pressurized pot,
>
> but
>
>>you can also get pressurized gravity feed and pressurized siphon feed. The
>>pressurized feed remote pot guns are more compact and are easier to work
>>with in confined spaces such as cabinet interiors, and you can easily
>
> spray
>
>>upside down or sideways without any problems. Because you're dealing with
>>larger containers and lengths of hose, remote pots aren't very convenient
>>for small jobs or frequent finish changes, but are great for production
>
> line
>
>>work. Another important advantage with pressure feed guns is the ability
>
> to
>
>>spray thicker paints and finishes. With a pressure pot and a large tip you
>>can even spray thick latex paints.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:12:50 GMT, "AL" <[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>One thing you can't easily do with a gravity gun is spray upwards (for
>example spraying the bottom of the top board of a bookshelf). Devilbiss
>makes a disposable liner (like those reuseable baby bottles with the
>disposable bags) which they claim will allow you to spray upward, but I've
>never tried it.
Wouldn't/Couldn't you turn the bookcase on its side to get the
corners, back, and shelf undersides, then right it to continue
spraying? Granted, that would be easier closer to the floor.
--
The ancient and curious thing called religion, as it shows itself in the
modern world, is often so overladen with excrescences and irrelevancies
that its fundamental nature tends to be obscured.
--H.L. Mencken in "Treatise on the Gods"
Firstly, find out what you have. Mainly the CFM spec at both 90 and 40 psi,
and the tank size and pressure (gal at psi). Second, think about how large an
item you want to finish. There are guns that work well with smaller
compressors for end tables and such. But larger projects may need a bigger gun
that requires more of a compressor. You're also talking about shellac, but
calling them paint guns, while I suspect it's not paint you want to spray, but
shellac and other clear finishes. Make a clear distinction here, as paint
spraying is rather different. When you put these together, I'd suggest you
throw them into the forum at
www.homesteadfinish.com
where you can get more specific advice, and see a variety of quality finishing
equipment.
GerryG
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:27:19 GMT, william kossack <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
>depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
>Now what to do?
>
>I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
>and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
>compressor I was told they would not.
>
>For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
>finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
>a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:27:19 GMT, william kossack
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
>depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
>Now what to do?
>
>I've been eying the paint guns and turbine compressors at both woodcraft
>and rocklers but when I queried if the paint guns would work with my new
>compressor I was told they would not.
>
>For spraying I'm wanting end up with a really smooth surface. All the
>finishing work I've done before has been hand padding shellac. Is there
>a gun that will give me the same results but faster?
I recently bought a low-end (Porter-Cable PSH-1) HVLP conversion gun
and am pleased with it so far. I am sure that sometime in the distant
future I'll probably buy something more high-end, but for now I'm
satisfied. So far I have done more painting than fine finishing.
Not mentioned in the other posts is that the gravity feed conversion
gun allows the use of higher viscosity materials than is possible with
a similarly sized suction gun. If you have occasion to spray latex,
this could be important. The ease of cleanup, mentioned by others, is
a big plus. Less than 10 minutes at the worst.
A negative for gravity guns is the paint cup location which can be
awkward for working in close quarters, such as cabinet interiors.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wgoffeney/Woodworking/Woodworking.htm
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:51:15 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:
>
> william kossack writes:
>
> >Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
> >depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>>
>>Now what to do?
>
>I don't want to burst your bubble, but if you can get the compressor in a
>car, it's probably not big enough to do spray painting.
"She" + "car"? No.
"Truck" + "Borg Crew" or "forklift", probably OK. ;)
>Good spray guns need about 15 SCFM.
>
>It takes at least a 5HP, two stage compressor with at least a 60, better yet
>an 80 gal receiver to deliver that amount of air.
No, it won't do 90' of yacht hull in one pass, but a 2+HP
compressor should easily work for most furniture, especially
if an extra storage tank is connected.
--
The ancient and curious thing called religion, as it shows itself in the
modern world, is often so overladen with excrescences and irrelevancies
that its fundamental nature tends to be obscured.
--H.L. Mencken in "Treatise on the Gods"
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:27:19 GMT, william kossack <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Well my birthday came and my wife gave me a Husky compressor from home
>depot (she told me she picked the largest one she could get into her car).
>
Well, in the spirit of the wrec, with a slight modification for the subject
matter, You blow!