I'm getting ready to put a bunch of tools and such up on Ebay.
I know there's a passel of Ebay aficionados here on the Wreck and I am
soliciting their advice/advise.
What do I need to know?
Thanks for the advise/advice.
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
You left out what I consider the most important point of all.
Con: You have to be awake and at your computer when the auction ends.
Art
"Howard" wrote in message ...
> Actually sniping software on my own machine would be my preference
> anyway.
>
> Pro:
> You don't have to give your password to a stranger
> You don't have any limits on snipe timing
>
> Con:
> You have to have your machine on and connected
> Your connection might not be as reliable
>
> I think the Pro outweighs the Con here.
>
> [email protected]
> http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
> http://freshjava.opportunity.com
I remember reading something from a guy that auctioned a lot. He said that
he stated right on the page that the auction would end withing two hours
either way of the published time. Made it impossible to snipe.
I thought that was a good idea.
"WilleeCue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Barry it sounds like you get a real kick thinking you have pulled a sneaky
> trick on someone.
> Snatching something away from someone else by using what you think are
> clever tactics.
> Tisk, tisk, tisk.
>
> Dont you realize it dont even matter to a bidder that has bid his maximum
> amount.
> Only the people that are like you get upset about it.
>
> William Lee
>
>
> "B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I've always HATED auctions that automatically extend, like uBid!
> >
> > When I really want an item, I make sure my butt is on it when it's due
> > to end, ready to place the old-fashioned manual snipe. If eBay
> > changed auction models, I'd never go back. Based on the popularity
> > of sites that auto extend, I'm probably not alone.
> >
> > If eBay blocked the services, it would be simple enough to install
> > sniping software on your machine and do it yourself.
> >
> > Barry
>
>
1- they've got a short, but pretty informative "tutorial"--worth the time!!
2- have all the info, including pictures ready ahead of time!
3- Check with USPS in advance so you'll know the approximate cost of
shipping and insurance!
Seriously----check out their tutorials!!!
GL
--
In golf, it's not the score that counts--it's the company!
B a r r y <[email protected]> wrote:
> >There would be an easy way for eBay to prevent sniping services from
> >operating. That would be to automatically extend an auction by 5 minutes
> >whenever a bid comes in within 5 minutes of the planned end of the auction.
> >I'm aware of other online and "live" auctions that work this way. I wonder
> >what the downside from eBay's POV would be to doing this.
>
> I've always HATED auctions that automatically extend, like uBid!
Well, that's what real auctions do and part of what makes it an auction.
>
> When I really want an item, I make sure my butt is on it when it's due
> to end, ready to place the old-fashioned manual snipe.
That doesn't work that well.
> If eBay
> changed auction models, I'd never go back. Based on the popularity
> of sites that auto extend, I'm probably not alone.
I doubt that the popularity of eBay is due to that. I would be surprised
if the majority of users don't consider it a flaw rather than a feature.
I don't often bother with eBay, because it is more of a game than a real
auction. Sure, one can spend lots of time in multiple auctions, but for
me its not worth it. Sniping also works more reliably with broadband, so
I would have to get that in order to compete.
>
> If eBay blocked the services, it would be simple enough to install
> sniping software on your machine and do it yourself.
There's software for mac to automate sniping and no doubt for windows as
well.
Just extend the "auctions" for a single minute and the problem would go
away.
In article <[email protected]>, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>Barry:
>>That's known as "keyword spamming" and is against eBay rules.
>
>Someone (LRod?) the other day was complaining about Bibb
>Tool's keyword spamming. Bibb Tool buys eBay banner space.
>I suppose if you wanted to do it and get away with it...
>
Yeah, no kidding. I reported Bibb Tool a few days ago:
Message: Seller is keyword spamming, a practice specifically prohibited
by eBay. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-keywords.html
Search for "Powermatic planer" in titles & descriptions turns up item
2595484134, which is a JET brand planer, not Powermatic. JET and
Powermatic have the same parent company, but they are NOT the same
brand. Powermatic is the parent company's high-end brand, whereas JET is
their low-end brand. Listing this tool as a "JET Powermatic" is akin to
listing a Chevy Corsica as a "Chevrolet Cadillac".
and got this response from eBay today:
Thank you for contacting eBay about item #2595484134.
I have reviewed the information you sent us regarding a possible
violation of our guidelines. At this point I do not have enough evidence
to show that the member has violated any current eBay listing policies.
Therefore, no action will be taken at this time on this issue.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter,
send email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:35:06 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Henry E
Schaffer) wrote:
> At auctions I seldom start out by bidding my maximum bid - as I'd
>prefer not to have to pay that much.
I don't understand. You WON'T have to pay your max, unless someone
else bids it up.
I guess your saying you have an original maximum, and then a "rethunk"
maximum? <G>
Barry
"ATP" <[email protected]> writes:
>keywords in the description- especially popular ones like sought after brand
>names, and of course the most commonly used name for the tool (or better
>yet, multiple names for the tool)
But, don't put extra brand names in the description just so your item
comes up when someone searches for another brand name.
If I'm searching for a Powermatic table saw, I want Powermatic items to
come up. Not Craftsman, not Jet, and not Delta.
Brian Elfert
Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm getting ready to put a bunch of tools and such up on Ebay.
>
> I know there's a passel of Ebay aficionados here on the Wreck and I am
> soliciting their advice/advise.
>
> What do I need to know?
>
> Thanks for the advise/advice.
Make sure everything is spelled properly. No, this isn't a grammar
snob, but I just saw a report on TV that there are companies in the
business of finding misspelled items on Ebay, buying them, and selling
them at higher value.
Why can they sell it higher? Because the item had few if any bids on
it in the first place, because the search engine didn't bring up their
item because of the misspelling.
I guess "Chandelier" is one they said is often misspelled.
B a r r y <[email protected]> wrote:
>If eBay blocked the services, it would be simple enough to install
>sniping software on your machine and do it yourself.
Actually sniping software on my own machine would be my preference
anyway.
Pro:
You don't have to give your password to a stranger
You don't have any limits on snipe timing
Con:
You have to have your machine on and connected
Your connection might not be as reliable
I think the Pro outweighs the Con here.
[email protected]
http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
http://freshjava.opportunity.com
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:58:23 GMT, "WilleeCue"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Barry it sounds like you get a real kick thinking you have pulled a sneaky
>trick on someone.
>Snatching something away from someone else by using what you think are
>clever tactics.
>Tisk, tisk, tisk.
Wha...?
Not at all all. In fact, I usually bid my max amount and walk away.
This causes me to lose a huge number of auctions.
>
>Dont you realize it dont even matter to a bidder that has bid his maximum
>amount.
>Only the people that are like you get upset about it.
I'm not upset at all.
I simply don't like chasing auctions on sites like uBid that continue
to extend.
Barry
Larry Jaques wrote:
> Which software snipe did you buy and why? I usually don't
> bid until the last day (with a low amount) or at the last
> hour. Sniping software would allow me to do better and to
> get those early morning east-coaster auctions.
Frankly, I didn't know that this software even existed. I do my own sniping. I
never bid on an item until there was about 90 seconds left in the auction, and
even then I posted a bid that would beat the current bid, plus maybe 20%. This
is assuming that I would still be getting a bargain after I added in shipping.
If not, I just buy locally (assuming it's an available item). I never get
caught up in the heat of the moment.... it's a sure way to screw yourself.
I didn't always snipe. In an early experience last year during hurricane season
I followed an auction for a Generac 7500 watt electric start generator,
available at the local borg for $900 or a $1000 (I don't remember precisely). I
knew for a fact they still had them in stock. I entered the bidding on Ebay at
about $550 with a max bid of $700 (remember, I still would have to add shipping
to this heavy item). I was easily beaten out, but it was an education. All my
early bid did was run up the bill for all. Then I watched in amazement as the
bloodlust took over: the winner paid $1300 BEFORE the shipping was added. OUCH!
That's when I formulated my current rules, which have been fairly successful for
me.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
http://www.mortimerschnerd.com
Henry E Schaffer wrote:
>
>
> Let's say I bid something below my max, and then someone else bids
> higher but still lower than my max - but I can't raise my bid because
> the time runs out. The only way I could have avoided this was to bid
> my max in the first place.
Exactly.
I've bid my max on lenses then watched the snipers lose.
My max was still a deal.
--
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens, A.K.A.
Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the suspense.
(Gaz, r.moto)
Be very honest with your descriptions, so your buyers won't give you any
negative feedback. People put a lot of weight behind sellers feedback
ratings when it comes time to decide whether to bid on your items or
not. Good luck, Mark
P.S. How about a shipping discount for wreckers???
Tom Watson wrote:
> I'm getting ready to put a bunch of tools and such up on Ebay.
>
> I know there's a passel of Ebay aficionados here on the Wreck and I am
> soliciting their advice/advise.
>
> What do I need to know?
>
> Thanks for the advise/advice.
>
>
>
>
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
> Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
> Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I'm getting ready to put a bunch of tools and such up on Ebay.
>
> I know there's a passel of Ebay aficionados here on the Wreck and I am
> soliciting their advice/advise.
>
> What do I need to know?
>
> Thanks for the advise/advice.
>
Would it be worth my while to drive to you from north Jersey?
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:41:33 -0600, "todd" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>There would be an easy way for eBay to prevent sniping services from
>operating. That would be to automatically extend an auction by 5 minutes
>whenever a bid comes in within 5 minutes of the planned end of the auction.
>I'm aware of other online and "live" auctions that work this way. I wonder
>what the downside from eBay's POV would be to doing this.
I've always HATED auctions that automatically extend, like uBid!
When I really want an item, I make sure my butt is on it when it's due
to end, ready to place the old-fashioned manual snipe. If eBay
changed auction models, I'd never go back. Based on the popularity
of sites that auto extend, I'm probably not alone.
If eBay blocked the services, it would be simple enough to install
sniping software on your machine and do it yourself.
Barry
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:28:38 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Me? I load a snipe, go to work, go to bed, go about my
>business and let the chips fall where they may. Snipes do
>show up as one of those "last minute bid-ups" but I'm not
>there frantically hitting the Bid button
>ten/five/four/three/two/one seconds before bidding ends.
Which software snipe did you buy and why? I usually don't
bid until the last day (with a low amount) or at the last
hour. Sniping software would allow me to do better and to
get those early morning east-coaster auctions.
-----------------------------------------
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http://www.diversify.com Wondrous Website Design
=================================================
todd wrote:
>"Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I go to AuctionStealer.com, log on, go to the bidding page,
>>>add in the number of the auction, tell it how much and
>>>submit.
>>>
>>>
>>I understand that eBay is changing things up to make this harder to do
>>with 3rd-party sniping services.
>>
>>[email protected]
>>http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
>>http://freshjava.opportunity.com
>>
>>
>
>There would be an easy way for eBay to prevent sniping services from
>operating. That would be to automatically extend an auction by 5 minutes
>whenever a bid comes in within 5 minutes of the planned end of the auction.
>I'm aware of other online and "live" auctions that work this way. I wonder
>what the downside from eBay's POV would be to doing this. For the record, I
>don't have a problem with sniping services, and I don't even see why it
>would be a problem again from eBay's POV.
>
>todd
>
>
>
Yup! The more bids on an item, the more ePay makes, the happier ePay
is! And all of us end up the suckers.
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>
>>Which software snipe did you buy and why? I usually don't
>>bid until the last day (with a low amount) or at the last
>>hour. Sniping software would allow me to do better and to
>>get those early morning east-coaster auctions.
>>
>>
>
>
>Frankly, I didn't know that this software even existed. I do my own sniping. I
>never bid on an item until there was about 90 seconds left in the auction, and
>even then I posted a bid that would beat the current bid, plus maybe 20%. This
>is assuming that I would still be getting a bargain after I added in shipping.
>If not, I just buy locally (assuming it's an available item). I never get
>caught up in the heat of the moment.... it's a sure way to screw yourself.
>
>I didn't always snipe. In an early experience last year during hurricane season
>I followed an auction for a Generac 7500 watt electric start generator,
>available at the local borg for $900 or a $1000 (I don't remember precisely). I
>knew for a fact they still had them in stock. I entered the bidding on Ebay at
>about $550 with a max bid of $700 (remember, I still would have to add shipping
>to this heavy item). I was easily beaten out, but it was an education. All my
>early bid did was run up the bill for all. Then I watched in amazement as the
>bloodlust took over: the winner paid $1300 BEFORE the shipping was added. OUCH!
>
>That's when I formulated my current rules, which have been fairly successful for
>me.
>
>
>
>
As a buyer on eBay, you have to be smart. Know what things are worth,
know what your max that you would be willing to pay to still get a good
deal and know when the best times to bid! Bid on an item saturdays,
sundays or evenings and you will be bidding with the majority of the
world. ( This is why I list stuff to end on sunday evenings! ) Bid
during most peoples business hours or in the middle of the night and you
have increased your chances of winning when bidding the end of that auction.
As a seller, bring on the snipers, bring on the newbies, bring on the
misinformed. Drive that bid up! eBay doesn't mind as they make a
bigger chunk too! List stuff to end on sunday evenings. I list late
because it falls in the 5 hour window but I catch most of the west coast
crowd to keep shipping costs down. ( I live on the left coast. )
Sunday, everybody is done with their church, done with their weekend
playing and are slowing down to get ready for the work week. A little
relaxation time in front of the computer and time to bid. ( Of course
most women you can target in the middle of the week. When they can
spend while the hubby's are out earning. )
I have almost 1500 positive feedbacks and over 2200 transactions. I
find stuff that I can't find locally or by mail order / online. I sell
stuff to feed my various hobbies. These days, if I see something that I
really want, I don't bid. I book mark it ( save to favorites ) and
check it on the last day. This way, I don't add to the "frenzy" of
bidding. If I'm not awake or around for the end of the auction, I'll
automatically bid ( snipe. ) If I lose, I really don't care. eBay is
huge! Another item will come along. I'm never in any rush that I have
to have this item "right now!"
If I were to pass along one tidbit of advise, it would be to expect the
worst. Most of the time you are looking at somebody's crappy picture.
The sellers description in his mind might not be what's in your mind.
If you expect the worst and or problems, when your item shows up and it
is better than what you had in your mind, be pleasantly suprised. What
did you want? You're buying something that someone else didn't want!
It's all part of playing the eBay game!
In article <[email protected]>,
WilleeCue <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
>However ... on the other hand ....
>If a person bids the max they want to pay for an item then what is the big
>deal about being out bid in the last few seconds?
At auctions I seldom start out by bidding my maximum bid - as I'd
prefer not to have to pay that much. But I am willing to go up to my
max bid - and dislike being prevented from doing so. If I have a chance
to enter my max bid, and then someone raises - that's fine.
--
--henry schaffer
hes _AT_ ncsu _DOT_ edu
In article <[email protected]>,
B a r r y <*removethis*@snet.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:35:06 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Henry E
>Schaffer) wrote:
>
>> At auctions I seldom start out by bidding my maximum bid - as I'd
>>prefer not to have to pay that much.
>
>I don't understand. You WON'T have to pay your max, unless someone
>else bids it up.
>
>I guess your saying you have an original maximum, and then a "rethunk"
>maximum? <G>
You snipped out the part that explained the situation:
>However ... on the other hand ....
>If a person bids the max they want to pay for an item then what is the big
>deal about being out bid in the last few seconds?
Let's say I bid something below my max, and then someone else bids
higher but still lower than my max - but I can't raise my bid because
the time runs out. The only way I could have avoided this was to bid
my max in the first place.
--
--henry schaffer
hes _AT_ ncsu _DOT_ edu
Snip
>
> 2) Purposeful misspellings or altered spelling. There are
> band saws and there are bandsaws. There is Delta and there
> is Delat. Any of these will bring back hits.
>
Ditto that. I've seen some items go for a song because I
intentionally search for items that have misspellings in the
description. E.g. a (like) new Unisaw went for like $400 because it
was listed as "tablesaw" rather than "table saw."
If you can hit a lick just right, you can get as much as the new
retail value of some items. People freak out the last hour of an
auction or so and your blurfl that has 2 bids on it will go to like,
50 bids the last hour. Go figure.
Good luck, Tom.
-Phil Crow
Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Phil Crow wrote:
> >If you can hit a lick just right, you can get as much as the new
> >retail value of some items. People freak out the last hour of an
> >auction or so and your blurfl that has 2 bids on it will go to like,
> >50 bids the last hour. Go figure.
>
>
> Not to disagree but my explanation of this is, a smart
> bidder won't draw attention to something by ramping up the
> bid. I mean, the auction ends at a pre-determined time.
> There's no need to exert anything until it's necessary.
>
I agree, but as a seller, I don't care whether or not the bidder is
"smart." I just care that his/her money is green.
> I also think that there might be a sub-culture who wait and
> watch to see what's being bid on and attach a value to that.
> In other words, "Hey! There are five guys here bidding on
> this. Maybe I oughtta". Yeah, it's a stretch and a view
> into the shallower end of the gene pool...
>
I agree to that as well. But once again, the higher bid is more money
in my pocket. I could be wrong, but I would imagine that in the
history of eBay, no seller has sent a message to a winning bidder
saying, "You paid too much. I'll give the blurfl to you for x dollars
instead."
I, for one, don't appreciate those high-pressure tactics <g>.
> Me? I load a snipe, go to work, go to bed, go about my
> business and let the chips fall where they may. Snipes do
> show up as one of those "last minute bid-ups" but I'm not
> there frantically hitting the Bid button
> ten/five/four/three/two/one seconds before bidding ends.
>
> UA100
I have to admit, I went through that with an Emmert I was looking at a
couple of months ago. I had set my personal limit at $150 and I
watched the end of the auction with bated breath. I mean, it was an
Emmert Model 82 for a hundred and fifty bucks! The price went from
$120 to $215 in the last 3 minutes of the auction. It took all my
willpower not to hit that damn button. For a hypothetical enactment
of the results, see thread entitled, "How to infuriate your wife."
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, Keith. I guess my
motives in this regard are less altruistic.
-Phil Crow
Disclaimer:
The following has been posted correctly and not top posted
like some big pants AutoCAD know-it-all.
Phil Crow wrote:
>I agree, but as a seller, I don't care whether or not the bidder is
>"smart." I just care that his/her money is green.
Well, when it comes to the buyer, he/she couldn't give a
rat's rosy, rancid, red rectum what the seller wants. As a
seller I understand it.
>I agree to that as well. But once again, the higher bid is more money
>in my pocket. I could be wrong, but I would imagine that in the
>history of eBay, no seller has sent a message to a winning bidder
>saying, "You paid too much. I'll give the blurfl to you for x dollars
>instead."
Well, if you want more money then you should find an
alternative to eBay. I'm not sure where you were going with
the latter point.
>I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, Keith. I guess my
>motives in this regard are less altruistic.
How has altruism worked it's way in here? As a buyer I want
to buy it cheap. As a seller I want to make loads of cash.
But in the long run I accept things for what they are. I'm
not sure that makes me altruistic.
UA100
"Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I go to AuctionStealer.com, log on, go to the bidding page,
> >add in the number of the auction, tell it how much and
> >submit.
>
> I understand that eBay is changing things up to make this harder to do
> with 3rd-party sniping services.
>
> [email protected]
> http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
> http://freshjava.opportunity.com
There would be an easy way for eBay to prevent sniping services from
operating. That would be to automatically extend an auction by 5 minutes
whenever a bid comes in within 5 minutes of the planned end of the auction.
I'm aware of other online and "live" auctions that work this way. I wonder
what the downside from eBay's POV would be to doing this. For the record, I
don't have a problem with sniping services, and I don't even see why it
would be a problem again from eBay's POV.
todd
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:08:31 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Barry:
>>>That's known as "keyword spamming" and is against eBay rules.
>>
>>Someone (LRod?) the other day was complaining about Bibb
>>Tool's keyword spamming.
>
>and got this response from eBay today:
>
>Thank you for contacting eBay about item #2595484134.
>
>I have reviewed the information you sent us regarding a possible
>violation of our guidelines. At this point I do not have enough evidence
>to show that the member has violated any current eBay listing policies.
>Therefore, no action will be taken at this time on this issue.
Yeah, it was me. I didn't even get a response. However, when I did a
"powermatic" search the other day, there were NO jet powermatic hits,
and Bibb had at least three tools on there. Of course, for some reason
he never puts jet on his powermatic tools...
- -
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>I go to AuctionStealer.com, log on, go to the bidding page,
>add in the number of the auction, tell it how much and
>submit.
I understand that eBay is changing things up to make this harder to do
with 3rd-party sniping services.
[email protected]
http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
http://freshjava.opportunity.com
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 04:26:46 -0600, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>>Which software snipe did you buy and why?
>
>Buy? I didn't. I use the free stuff. Why? Onna 'count of
>I'm a bottom feeder.
The software's free but it's a per-per-snipe deal, right?
You pay a small fee for each one you win?
--
If it weren't for jumping to conclusions some of us wouldn't get any exercise.
www.diversify.com - Jump-free website programming
Tom Watson wrote:
>What do I need to know?
What you may already know is any numbnutz can sell and buy
on eBay. In other words, got credit card?
Now, as for presentation, this is where the vast majority of
"amateur" eBayers fall down. It's actually simple really.
If I may?
First, the eBay Kisses of Death (eKoD):
1) No or a bad picture. A bad picture is as bad as no
picture. Take a minute to clean up and crop a picture.
Lighten them as need be and please, please, please don't
have the item back lit as in, "let's put it over here in the
doorway where the sunlight will shine on it". Also, we
don't care about your cats, don't need to see them in the
picture and, well, don't like your cats. Also, remove all
the crap that's piled on top of the item before shooting it.
Bring home some cardboard, the stuff that comes on top of
the 4' X 8' units of particleboard at work and make a
makeshift background. Though we like to see your shop, it
makes for a cornfusing picture when it's all jumbled
together.
2) No or bad description. An over described item will also
cut down on the number of questions e-mailed to you. Do
your research. As a for instance, you have a Yankee
screwdriver. Is it a pre-Stanley North Bros. or a post
North Bros. Stanley?
3) Pick up only. You've cut the number of likely bidders
to those capable of or willing enough to make the drive to
Spotsylvania.
Second, key words, disclaimers and the fine print:
1) Use as many words as possible that may be on someone's
list of search key words. For instance, a Rockwell saw is a
Rockwell saw but teknikally it's also a Delta. Also, is it
a pre-Stanley North Bros. or a post North Bros. Stanley?
See how I was able to get in key words that may not have
been present had I not done the research.
2) Purposeful misspellings or altered spelling. There are
band saws and there are bandsaws. There is Delta and there
is Delat. Any of these will bring back hits.
3) State very clearly all the things that people don't take
the time to read like, "This item weighs a gazillion pounds
and ships via USPS from zip code XXXXX". It also doesn't
hurt to state that you don't do postal calcs prior to the
auction's end and that the prospective winners should visit
the USPS site for rates. You don't want to be chasing rates
down for people who will then decide they don't want to pay
$5 to get it from there to here and don't bother to bid.
4) Use the word B*tch*n to describe the item. Don't ask,
just do it. And, always end the auction with PEACE!!!
For some examples of well thought out and written auctions
that didn't take a long time to compose (some same text cut
and pasted from one auction to the next) visit this auction
page.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2380778584
Click on the link at the upper right to see other well
thought out and written auctions.
>Thanks for the advise/advice.
Not a prob.
UA100
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 03:11:43 GMT, Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Con: You have to be awake and at your computer when the auction ends.
>
>Actually, with sniping software, your computer has to be running and
>connected to the internet, but you *don't* have to be sitting in front
>of it.
>
>[email protected]
>http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
>http://freshjava.opportunity.com
unless you are using a snipe *service* in which case you don't even
have to own a computer...
JMWEBER987 wrote:
>"Condition of this item is considered to be very"
>ummmh, very what?
Good eye. One of the problems of per-writing the text and
not following through with a good proof read.
None the less, the seller is happy with what the item is
currently bid up to and thinks that it wouldn't be bid to
that without the thorough research done.
UA100
Tom,
Do a 'search' for the items you intend to list. This will give you an idea
as to which categories they are in - as in should you list in more than one
?
Also, how are the items described - I've seen identical items actually
SELLING for both low & high prices, the only difference seeming to be the
text.
Sometimes having a LOW 'starting' price - with a 'reserve' of 85 percent of
what YOU WANT is the way to go.
DON'T get 'antsy' when you don't see bids - sometimes nothing happens until
the LAST DAY or so.
DO follow the 'tricks' to paragraphing & fonts.
Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
[You have my telephone number & e-address - - - give me a call or drop me a
note for particulars - - - I've sold a lot of my shooting & photography
stuff. Even an old steamer trunk that an 'antique dealer' said no one would
buy]
"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm getting ready to put a bunch of tools and such up on Ebay.
>
> I know there's a passel of Ebay aficionados here on the Wreck and I am
> soliciting their advice/advise.
>
> What do I need to know?
>
> Thanks for the advise/advice.
>
>
>
>
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
> Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
> Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
DOH! I missed the word "software".
<slinks back to the garage>
Art
"Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Con: You have to be awake and at your computer when the auction ends.
>
> Actually, with sniping software, your computer has to be running and
> connected to the internet, but you *don't* have to be sitting in front
> of it.
>
> [email protected]
> http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
> http://freshjava.opportunity.com
"Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Con: You have to be awake and at your computer when the auction ends.
Actually, with sniping software, your computer has to be running and
connected to the internet, but you *don't* have to be sitting in front
of it.
[email protected]
http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
http://freshjava.opportunity.com
"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2380778584
>
> Click on the link at the upper right to see other well
> thought out and written auctions.
Yowser's -- how long's it take to create 120 eBay IDs to give yourself all
of that positive feedback?
http://media.guardian.co.uk/mediaguardian/story/0,7558,1153699,00.html
I mean, I got some extensive extended-family relatives to draw on, but not
that many!
Give it up! What's the trick???
>Yowser's -- how long's it take to create 120 eBay IDs to give yourself all
>of that positive feedback?
>
>http://media.guardian.co.uk/mediaguardian/story/0,7558,1153699,00.html
>
>I mean, I got some extensive extended-family relatives to draw on, but not
>that many!
>
>Give it up! What's the trick???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42249&item=2381498339
I managed to drum up 350 folks to leave me feedback. Takes a while, but gets
the job done. :)
GTO(John)
GTO69RA4 wrote:
>>Yowser's -- how long's it take to create 120 eBay IDs to give yourself all
>>of that positive feedback?
>>
>>http://media.guardian.co.uk/mediaguardian/story/0,7558,1153699,00.html
>>
>>I mean, I got some extensive extended-family relatives to draw on, but not
>>that many!
>>
>>Give it up! What's the trick???
>>
>>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42249&item=2381498339
>
>I managed to drum up 350 folks to leave me feedback. Takes a while, but gets
>the job done. :)
>
>GTO(John)
>
I managed 1464.
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=mnsmith
Nice IR OS. I'm going to have to watch that auction. ( You didn't
think I made all that feedback by selling, did you? )
Hmmm. The GPS looks like more fun. A bidding I will go...........
>I managed 1464.
>http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=mnsmith
>
>Nice IR OS. I'm going to have to watch that auction. ( You didn't
>think I made all that feedback by selling, did you? )
>
>Hmmm. The GPS looks like more fun. A bidding I will go...........
Always the finest of stuff. I'm in the perpetual cleanout mode with all the
stuff that's followed me home from various sources. Probably would be a lot
easier if I just stopped collecting this hardware in the first place. You know
you're in trouble when your ratholes dissapear because of what's surrounding
them. Who wants a router crafter?
GTO(John)
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:49:50 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm getting ready to put a bunch of tools and such up on Ebay.
Anything a fellah setting up a new shop might be interested in, or is
it all professional humongo industrial-sized stuff?
Michael
WilleeCue wrote:
>Barry it sounds like you get a real kick thinking you have pulled a sneaky
>trick on someone.
>Snatching something away from someone else by using what you think are
>clever tactics.
>Tisk, tisk, tisk.
Actually no. The snipe only delivers my bid amount. If I
"snatched" it away from someone it's because someone
didn't have a bid to top mine. It's all about taking
responsibility for your own actions. In other words, if you
want it, then bid more than I will.
Now, if somehow my sniped bid were to make the other bidders
bid less than they wanted to bid, that would be a sneaky
trick.
Of course it is always easier to blame others for your
misfortune.
UA100
On 23 Feb 2004 14:13:07 GMT, Brian Elfert <[email protected]> wrote:
>"ATP" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>keywords in the description- especially popular ones like sought after brand
>>names, and of course the most commonly used name for the tool (or better
>>yet, multiple names for the tool)
>
>But, don't put extra brand names in the description just so your item
>comes up when someone searches for another brand name.
That's known as "keyword spamming" and is against eBay rules.
There's a few idiots that put "Starrett Clone" and "Starrett Copy"
that I recently reported for clogging my searches. <G>
Barry
Phil Crow wrote:
>If you can hit a lick just right, you can get as much as the new
>retail value of some items. People freak out the last hour of an
>auction or so and your blurfl that has 2 bids on it will go to like,
>50 bids the last hour. Go figure.
Not to disagree but my explanation of this is, a smart
bidder won't draw attention to something by ramping up the
bid. I mean, the auction ends at a pre-determined time.
There's no need to exert anything until it's necessary.
I also think that there might be a sub-culture who wait and
watch to see what's being bid on and attach a value to that.
In other words, "Hey! There are five guys here bidding on
this. Maybe I oughtta". Yeah, it's a stretch and a view
into the shallower end of the gene pool...
Me? I load a snipe, go to work, go to bed, go about my
business and let the chips fall where they may. Snipes do
show up as one of those "last minute bid-ups" but I'm not
there frantically hitting the Bid button
ten/five/four/three/two/one seconds before bidding ends.
UA100
Todd, I have harped on that very thing for years.
Ebay will not change their software to do this.
However ... on the other hand ....
If a person bids the max they want to pay for an item then what is the big
deal about being out bid in the last few seconds?
William Lee
"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >I go to AuctionStealer.com, log on, go to the bidding page,
> > >add in the number of the auction, tell it how much and
> > >submit.
> >
> > I understand that eBay is changing things up to make this harder to do
> > with 3rd-party sniping services.
> >
> > [email protected]
> > http://freshcoffee.opportunity.com
> > http://freshjava.opportunity.com
>
> There would be an easy way for eBay to prevent sniping services from
> operating. That would be to automatically extend an auction by 5 minutes
> whenever a bid comes in within 5 minutes of the planned end of the
auction.
> I'm aware of other online and "live" auctions that work this way. I
wonder
> what the downside from eBay's POV would be to doing this. For the record,
I
> don't have a problem with sniping services, and I don't even see why it
> would be a problem again from eBay's POV.
>
> todd
>
>
Tom Watson wrote:
> I'm getting ready to put a bunch of tools and such up on Ebay.
>
> I know there's a passel of Ebay aficionados here on the Wreck and I am
> soliciting their advice/advise.
>
> What do I need to know?
>
> Thanks for the advise/advice.
>
keywords in the description- especially popular ones like sought after brand
names, and of course the most commonly used name for the tool (or better
yet, multiple names for the tool)
Barry it sounds like you get a real kick thinking you have pulled a sneaky
trick on someone.
Snatching something away from someone else by using what you think are
clever tactics.
Tisk, tisk, tisk.
Dont you realize it dont even matter to a bidder that has bid his maximum
amount.
Only the people that are like you get upset about it.
William Lee
"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've always HATED auctions that automatically extend, like uBid!
>
> When I really want an item, I make sure my butt is on it when it's due
> to end, ready to place the old-fashioned manual snipe. If eBay
> changed auction models, I'd never go back. Based on the popularity
> of sites that auto extend, I'm probably not alone.
>
> If eBay blocked the services, it would be simple enough to install
> sniping software on your machine and do it yourself.
>
> Barry