I thought this was interesting, I wish they had told more about the
construction and materials used. No doubt it is bottom of the line
everything.
These are primarily intended to house resident of Alabama's
southern regions known as the black belt(after a soil type).
Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that
fairs much better.
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
basilisk
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:59:20 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 08:48:32 -0500, basilisk wrote:
>
>> Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that fairs
>> much better.
>>
>> http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
>
>
> Interesting website, but it ate up 90-100% of my CPU and ran my disk
> continuously filling the cache - not sure I'd trust it.
I go to al.com almost everyday and hadn't noticed anything,
possibly I already have everything cached.
basilisk
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:52:01 -0400, krw wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:48:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I thought this was interesting, I wish they had told more about the
>>construction and materials used. No doubt it is bottom of the line
>>everything.
>>
>>These are primarily intended to house resident of Alabama's southern
>>regions known as the black belt(after a soil type).
>>
>>Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that fairs
>>much better.
>>
>>http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
>>
> Interesting but I'm kinda confused. They talk about the Black Belt of
> Alabama but Newburn is in the far Northeast, a long throw from Auburn
> (rar East-Central).
I guess there could be two Newberns, the one they are referring to is in
Hale county in west central AL. The blackbelt is narrow around
Auburn, but gets wider and more Notherly in west AL. That leaves the
question as to why Auburn University would have a studio and project
clear across the state.
basilisk
>> A 1957 dollar is $8.33 today (2013). Even at that rate the value of
>> the
>> house had appreciated more than 3 times inflation five years ago.
>>
>> Wonder what it's appraised at today?
Swingman wrote:
> Interesting, which is guaranteed to piss Lew off, is that gasoline
> was an average of .31/gallon in 1957.
>
> Today that same gallon would be .36/gallon in 1957 dollars.
> ($2.99/gal 2013 dollars)
>
> IOW, gasoline today does not yet cost all that much more (what,
> roughly 20%?), relatively speaking, than it did in 2013.
--------------------------------------------------------
The only thing about the price of gas that pisses me off is that it
doesn't
include the cost of cleaning up the pollution it creates.
What does truly piss me off is that the minimum wage ($1/hr in 1957)
hasn't kept pace except here in CA where it will be $10/hr next year.
Lew
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 00:05:19 GMT, basilisk <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:52:01 -0400, krw wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:48:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I thought this was interesting, I wish they had told more about the
>>>construction and materials used. No doubt it is bottom of the line
>>>everything.
>>>
>>>These are primarily intended to house resident of Alabama's southern
>>>regions known as the black belt(after a soil type).
>>>
>>>Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that fairs
>>>much better.
>>>
>>>http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
>>>
>> Interesting but I'm kinda confused. They talk about the Black Belt of
>> Alabama but Newburn is in the far Northeast, a long throw from Auburn
>> (rar East-Central).
>
>I guess there could be two Newberns, the one they are referring to is in
>Hale county in west central AL. The blackbelt is narrow around
>Auburn, but gets wider and more Notherly in west AL. That leaves the
>question as to why Auburn University would have a studio and project
>clear across the state.
>
Sorry, I was using Mapquest to find it. It found NewbUrGH when I
entered "newbUrn". NewbErn is in West-central AL, very near
Tuscaloosa. It makes even less sense for AU to be working there. ;-)
Apparently the Black Belt (I lived in Auburn for a few years,
recently) is a swath cut across the entire south-central part of
Alabama. I had never heard the term before so it piqued my curiosity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_%28region_of_Alabama%29
Thanks. Learned something else, today (went to a Woodcraft dovetail
demo today, too).
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:48:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>I thought this was interesting, I wish they had told more about the
>construction and materials used. No doubt it is bottom of the line
>everything.
>
>These are primarily intended to house resident of Alabama's
>southern regions known as the black belt(after a soil type).
>
>Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that
>fairs much better.
>
>http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
>
Interesting but I'm kinda confused. They talk about the Black Belt of
Alabama but Newburn is in the far Northeast, a long throw from Auburn
(rar East-Central).
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:39:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:14:32 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>Interesting, which is guaranteed to piss Lew off, is that gasoline was
>>an average of .31/gallon in 1957.
>>
>>Today that same gallon would be .36/gallon in 1957 dollars. ($2.99/gal
>>2013 dollars)
>
>That does not seem right. I started driving in 1961. Gas was about
>20¢ then. One Merit station often was .199 and the Esso across the
>street was .219. Going from memory, when the gas crisis hit in the
>1970's it was mid 30's per gallon and jumped to the 70's or so.
>
>I can't remember when it hit $1. Many of the gas pumps could not
>handle the price increase
Well, I was in the gas pumping business in the late '60s and
againnin the late '70s. In 1969 regular gas in Ontario sold for
about $0.45 a gallon for regular. Sometimes a bit less. I pumped a
LOT of gas for $0.456 to $0.459. Some short "gas wars" knocked it WAY
down - I remember a nickel a gallon a few times.
Then I went to Zambia where I paid $1.65 per liter for what was
supposed to be 87 octane. Came back and for a while the price was
under a dollar a gallon, but around 1978 it went over the dollar a
gallon, so we set the pumps to half price and doubled it. Gas was
$1.06 per gallon, pump said $0.503. That was solved when, in January
1979, we switched to metric pumps - and $0.26 a liter
On 11/2/2013 3:39 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:14:32 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> Interesting, which is guaranteed to piss Lew off, is that gasoline was
>> an average of .31/gallon in 1957.
>>
>> Today that same gallon would be .36/gallon in 1957 dollars. ($2.99/gal
>> 2013 dollars)
>
> That does not seem right. I started driving in 1961. Gas was about
> 20¢ then. One Merit station often was .199 and the Esso across the
> street was .219. Going from memory, when the gas crisis hit in the
> 1970's it was mid 30's per gallon and jumped to the 70's or so.
>
> I can't remember when it hit $1. Many of the gas pumps could not
> handle the price increase
It's on the Internet, it's gotta be true, right?
Gas prices have always been regional, varying from neighborhood to
neighborhood, much less city to city/state to state. As we speak there
is a .20/gal spread from here to the Interstate, five miles away.
That said, in 1957 I was 14 and bought a 1949 Willy's Jeepster for $200.
I distinctly remember paying .25/gal for regular, leaded gas, as I was
making .50/hr working at a landscape company and it really cut into my
weekly paycheck to fill it up, to the point that I would use the last
few drops at the pump to fill my Zippo lighter, instead of buying
lighter fluid (yep, I started smoking at 14 ... hell I had a car, a job,
a girlfriend who put out, and I was a MAN, right!). Yeah, right! ;)
Therefore, I don't think that an average of .31/gal, considering that
premium was likely a nickle higher than regular, is too far off for that
period, particularly for illustration purposes.
Bawn joyour ... ;)
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I thought this was interesting, I wish they had told more about the
construction and materials used. No doubt it is bottom of the line
everything.
These are primarily intended to house resident of Alabama's
southern regions known as the black belt(after a soil type).
Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that
fairs much better.
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
basilisk
I bought a newly built house in 1957. 2 bedroom, large living room, utility
room, kitchen and bath (no shower) Wired 120/240. Had well and septic
system. 1/3 acre. Forced air heat. Well insulated. (Colorado). Added
storage shed and total fencing. House cost me $7500.00 Lived in it for 10
years. Sold for$ 10,000.00.. Checked tax valuation of it about 5 years ago.
278K. Wow. WW
On 11/2/2013 3:39 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:14:32 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> Interesting, which is guaranteed to piss Lew off, is that gasoline was
>> an average of .31/gallon in 1957.
>>
>> Today that same gallon would be .36/gallon in 1957 dollars. ($2.99/gal
>> 2013 dollars)
>
> That does not seem right. I started driving in 1961. Gas was about
> 20¢ then. One Merit station often was .199 and the Esso across the
> street was .219. Going from memory, when the gas crisis hit in the
> 1970's it was mid 30's per gallon and jumped to the 70's or so.
>
> I can't remember when it hit $1. Many of the gas pumps could not
> handle the price increase
>
Depends on where you are at. I recall paying .199 during a gas war in
1972. Typically I paid .239 ~ .259 during the that time period. I
recall the astronomical price of .759 in 1979 and .989 in 1998. Today I
have been seeing it at 2.929 at the local Shell stations.
On 11/2/2013 2:56 PM, Swingman wrote:
> A 1957 dollar is $8.33 today (2013). Even at that rate the value of the
> house had appreciated more than 3 times inflation five years ago.
>
> Wonder what it's appraised at today?
Interesting, which is guaranteed to piss Lew off, is that gasoline was
an average of .31/gallon in 1957.
Today that same gallon would be .36/gallon in 1957 dollars. ($2.99/gal
2013 dollars)
IOW, gasoline today does not yet cost all that much more (what, roughly
20%?), relatively speaking, than it did in 2013.
http://www.tvhistory.tv/1957%20QF.htm
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There are some custom arrays there. Live in Welder for months.
I saw a TV program that showed it in progress and finished.
I want to say there are about a dozen units there - some cut up and glassed.
Tough construction.
Martin
On 11/6/2013 9:26 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> With all due respect, I think the designs in the OP are overkill.
>
> You can buy shipping container for $1000 and refit it into a durable, modern house for a lot less than $20,000
>
> http://www.mnn.com/your-home/remodeling-design/photos/8-eye-catching-shipping-container-homes/a-new-kind-of-living
>
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 11:03:56 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:59:20 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 08:48:32 -0500, basilisk wrote:
>>
>>> Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that fairs
>>> much better.
>>>
>>> http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
>>
>>
>> Interesting website, but it ate up 90-100% of my CPU and ran my disk
>> continuously filling the cache - not sure I'd trust it.
>
>I go to al.com almost everyday and hadn't noticed anything,
>possibly I already have everything cached.
No problems here. I was very fast, in fact.
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:14:32 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Interesting, which is guaranteed to piss Lew off, is that gasoline was
>an average of .31/gallon in 1957.
>
>Today that same gallon would be .36/gallon in 1957 dollars. ($2.99/gal
>2013 dollars)
That does not seem right. I started driving in 1961. Gas was about
20¢ then. One Merit station often was .199 and the Esso across the
street was .219. Going from memory, when the gas crisis hit in the
1970's it was mid 30's per gallon and jumped to the 70's or so.
I can't remember when it hit $1. Many of the gas pumps could not
handle the price increase
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:48:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>I thought this was interesting, I wish they had told more about the
>construction and materials used. No doubt it is bottom of the line
>everything.
>
>These are primarily intended to house resident of Alabama's
>southern regions known as the black belt(after a soil type).
>
>Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that
>fairs much better.
>
>http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
>
>basilisk
If obamacare gets its' claws into all of us the middle class and poor
will be damn lucky to be able to afford a $20K house.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
~Winston Churchill
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 08:48:32 -0500, basilisk wrote:
> Most of southern Alabama is very poor unlike the nothern half that fairs
> much better.
>
> http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/the_20k_home_see_the_work_of_a.html
Interesting website, but it ate up 90-100% of my CPU and ran my disk
continuously filling the cache - not sure I'd trust it.
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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:54:50 -0400, clare wrote:
> Came back and for a
> while the price was under a dollar a gallon, but around 1978 it went
> over the dollar a gallon, so we set the pumps to half price and doubled
> it.
I remember stations in the US doing the same thing -thought that was
quite a sale the first time I saw it :-).
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:49:40 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> A 1957 dollar is $8.33 today (2013). Even at that rate the value of
>>> the
>>> house had appreciated more than 3 times inflation five years ago.
>>>
>>> Wonder what it's appraised at today?
>
>Swingman wrote:
>
>> Interesting, which is guaranteed to piss Lew off, is that gasoline
>> was an average of .31/gallon in 1957.
>>
>> Today that same gallon would be .36/gallon in 1957 dollars.
>> ($2.99/gal 2013 dollars)
>>
>> IOW, gasoline today does not yet cost all that much more (what,
>> roughly 20%?), relatively speaking, than it did in 2013.
>--------------------------------------------------------
>The only thing about the price of gas that pisses me off is that it
>doesn't
>include the cost of cleaning up the pollution it creates.
It didn't in 1957, either, and it created a *lot* more pollution.
Where's the beef?
>What does truly piss me off is that the minimum wage ($1/hr in 1957)
>hasn't kept pace except here in CA where it will be $10/hr next year.
It pisses me off that there *is* a minimum wage.
On 11/2/2013 2:09 PM, WW wrote:
> I bought a newly built house in 1957. 2 bedroom, large living room,
> utility room, kitchen and bath (no shower) Wired 120/240. Had well and
> septic system. 1/3 acre. Forced air heat. Well insulated. (Colorado).
> Added storage shed and total fencing. House cost me $7500.00 Lived in
> it for 10 years. Sold for$ 10,000.00.. Checked tax valuation of it about
> 5 years ago. 278K. Wow. WW
A 1957 dollar is $8.33 today (2013). Even at that rate the value of the
house had appreciated more than 3 times inflation five years ago.
Wonder what it's appraised at today?
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 23:50:57 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:54:50 -0400, clare wrote:
>
>> Came back and for a
>> while the price was under a dollar a gallon, but around 1978 it went
>> over the dollar a gallon, so we set the pumps to half price and doubled
>> it.
>
>I remember stations in the US doing the same thing -thought that was
>quite a sale the first time I saw it :-).
In the weeks leading up to the $1plus pricing I had an extension
ladder chained to the sign post - the oil company was changing the
price, up and down, sometimes 3 times a day, and someone had to climb
up and change the numbers every time.