Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the white
surface
and you can't use screws as you can cover the holes up (maybe you can tell
me)
Will buscuits be strong enough? 87" tall 24 " wide 7.5" deep 6 shelves
thanks
connor
www.connoraston.com
If you use biscuits, the glue will be binding the biscuit to the wood
inside the melamine, so you don't have to worry about the glue sticking
to the melamine.
If you want to use screws, you can get little white plastic screwcovers
- some stick directly into the philips head of the screw, some are
basically white stickers, or you could countersink the screws and get
white plastic plugs.
Try
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=46507&cat=3,41306,41316f
for white plastic screw covers.
Will it be strong enough? I think your design sounds stronger than
many of the pre-cut, assemble-at-home MDF bookshelf kits you get from
Target or whatever.
If you're really worried about sagging, my only suggestion would be to
put a vertical strip of white melamine (or whatever) under each shelf
to help support it, or on the front of each shelf like a face frame.
Remember to use good dust collection and wear a mask when cutting MDF -
not very good for you.
Good luck,
Andy
connor aston wrote:
> Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
> I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the white
> surface
> and you can't use screws as you can cover the holes up (maybe you can tell
> me)
> Will buscuits be strong enough? 87" tall 24 " wide 7.5" deep 6 shelves
>
I don't know if this is an option, but why not just buy a sheet of that
3/4" birch/maple plywood from homedepot, and then paint it? I was just
there today, and they had it for $36. It will look a lot nicer (IMO,.
of course), and you won't breathe in that MDF dust which is not good
for you, and it's not that much more expensive.
connor aston wrote:
> Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
> I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the
> white surface
You could try dadoing the uprights--that would cut through the melamine
so your glue would stick.
In any case you're likely going to want to reinforce the shelves. A lip
across the front, maybe some support along the back.
Chris
connor aston wrote:
> Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
> I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the
> white surface
> and you can't use screws as you can cover the holes up (maybe you can
> tell me)
> Will buscuits be strong enough? 87" tall 24 " wide 7.5" deep 6 shelves
>
> thanks
> connor
>
> www.connoraston.com
Use Roo glue. It sticks like gangbusters to Melamine.
Dave
I have used screws and counter snk them (have to with Melamine) once done I
fill screw/counter sink and then sand dwn the outside (outside is where you
can see the screws) then Veneer with a nice wood. I am currently doing my
kitchen cabinets this way, nice light color inside but real wood face frame
and real wood veneer ends, the doors are quality solid wood. It makes for a
real nice cabinet in the end.
"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If you use biscuits, the glue will be binding the biscuit to the wood
> inside the melamine, so you don't have to worry about the glue sticking
> to the melamine.
> If you want to use screws, you can get little white plastic screwcovers
> - some stick directly into the philips head of the screw, some are
> basically white stickers, or you could countersink the screws and get
> white plastic plugs.
> Try
> http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=46507&cat=3,41306,41316f
> for white plastic screw covers.
> Will it be strong enough? I think your design sounds stronger than
> many of the pre-cut, assemble-at-home MDF bookshelf kits you get from
> Target or whatever.
> If you're really worried about sagging, my only suggestion would be to
> put a vertical strip of white melamine (or whatever) under each shelf
> to help support it, or on the front of each shelf like a face frame.
> Remember to use good dust collection and wear a mask when cutting MDF -
> not very good for you.
> Good luck,
> Andy
>
connor aston wrote:
> Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
> I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the
> white surface
> and you can't use screws as you can cover the holes up (maybe you can
> tell me)
> Will buscuits be strong enough? 87" tall 24 " wide 7.5" deep 6 shelves
>
> thanks
> connor
>
> www.connoraston.com
G'day Connor,
Using 3/4" (19mm) melamine at 24" (600mm)width you shouldn't have any
problem with the shelves sagging or bowing.
My office has wall to wall book cases made from 16mm white mdf melamine
and they are stacked with books and have been for about 10 yrs. No
visable sag in the adjustable shelves. The cases are all backed with 3mm
white board. You should be able to purchase a PVA type melamine glue. I
use an "Anchor" product a division of "Bostic" and if you try to
seperate parts after the glue has cured you will tear the melamine from
the sheet. If you do not wish to use bicuits and clamps, use screws
designed for mdf and glue. Whack a white cap or matching coloured one
into the screw head and Bob's yer Auntie. If there are small kids around
the place, put a drop of super glue or the melamine glue into the screw
head prior to fitting the cap. This will prevent them from being
dislodged, or pulled out by little fingers and remove the possibility of
an ankle biter choking. I'd also recommend fixing the case to a wall as
7 1/2" deep is quite narrow for a unit that tall to be free standing. To
do this you can place a rail of either Melamine or timber under the top
or one of the fixed shelves. Another recommendation would be to back the
case so as to firm it up, hold it square and prevent racking.
These are tried and true methods, which I have been using for many
years, that does not mean that it is the best, or only method, but it
works for me.
all the best with the job
regards
John
Go here and search on confirmat, which is a fastner system
designed for melamine and various other sheet goods.
http://wwhardware.com/
You will also want some of the caps to cover the fastner
heads.
connor aston wrote:
> Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
> I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the
> white surface
> and you can't use screws as you can cover the holes up (maybe you can
> tell me)
> Will buscuits be strong enough? 87" tall 24 " wide 7.5" deep 6 shelves
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:14:20 +0000 (UTC), "connor aston"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
>I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the white
>surface
>and you can't use screws as you can cover the holes up (maybe you can tell
>me)
>Will buscuits be strong enough? 87" tall 24 " wide 7.5" deep 6 shelves
>
>thanks
>connor
>
>www.connoraston.com
Roo Glue will stick to the melamine just fine, use it just like you
would any yellow wood glue.
Info here:
http://www.rooglue.com/
A company in Bellingham, Washington makes a item called "FastCap" which is
an adhesive backed disc of thin melamine which you can use to cover the
heads of screws in meamine board.
Joe G
"connor aston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
> I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the white
> surface
> and you can't use screws as you can cover the holes up (maybe you can tell
> me)
> Will buscuits be strong enough? 87" tall 24 " wide 7.5" deep 6 shelves
>
> thanks
> connor
>
> www.connoraston.com
Thanks for all you help folks
You can see the finished product on my site under the workshop pics
section thanks
connor
http://www.connoraston.com/workshop.asp
The biscuits and good pva glue i think will be strong enough
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:14:20 -0000, connor aston <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Any ideas about making a simple book case 3/4" MDF white melamine.
> I was going to use biscuits but obvioulsy the glue wont stick to the
> white surface
> and you can't use screws as you can cover the holes up (maybe you can
> tell me)
> Will buscuits be strong enough? 87" tall 24 " wide 7.5" deep 6 shelves
>
> thanks
> connor
>
> www.connoraston.com
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