How much weight can a 3/4" of MDF support?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:41:26 -0500, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:45:49 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>>> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>>
>>I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's not even
>>likely. Think of the last console TV you lifted from back in the 80's -
>>they weren't that heavy. More like 40-60 lbs.
>
>32" flat screen CRT? Yeah they are that heavy. That's a *lot* of glass and
>often MDF casing. Our 1982 vintage 25" RCA table top was 100 lbs.
The 32inch flatscreen I removed from my 83 year old friend's den was
at LEAST 175 lbs. Actually, it must have been over 190, because when I
stood on my bag cart the tires didn't give at all, and hauling the
sucker out to the curb, the tires gave significantly.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:42:33 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:35:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT), busbus wrote:
>>>> Does this sound like a plan?  Of course, I originally thought of a
>>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked.  Ain't
>>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>>
>>> Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for the
>>> top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a shelf.
>>
>>go to radio shack and get a swivel wall mount, easy and saves floor
>>space.
>
> Do you have any idea what a large mount like that costs, sir? (HINT:
> it's about $200 more than bricks and low-grade tubatwelves.)

I've got one in the bedroom, don't recall what I paid for it, wasn't
that much though. I do remember how hard it was for an old fat man to
carry a 30 inch crt tv 9 feet up a ladder.

basilisk

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT), busbus wrote:

> On Aug 13, 7:59 am, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
>> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List.  They just HAD to
>> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
>> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>>
>> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
>> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV.  Don't
>> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
>> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>>
>> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
>> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
>> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds.  They don't have
>> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
>> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>>
>> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
>> either 3/4" MDF or plywood.  Needless to say, I want this thing to be
>> as cheap as possible!  I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
>> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
>> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top.  Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
>> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
>> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>>
>> Does this sound like a plan?  Of course, I originally thought of a
>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked.  Ain't
>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>
>> busbus
>
>
> Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for the
> top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a shelf.

go to radio shack and get a swivel wall mount, easy and saves floor
space.

basilisk

On Aug 14, 8:56=A0am, Megan Kinzler <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 11:45=A0pm, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Lobby Dosser wrote:
> > > The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>
> > I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's not =
even
> > likely. =A0Think of the last console TV you lifted from back in the 80'=
s -
> > they weren't that heavy. =A0More like 40-60 lbs.
>
> > --
>
> > -Mike-
> > [email protected]
>
> Oh, it IS at least 150 pounds. =A0The tube is HUGE. =A0And the back does
> not get smallish, either. =A0The back of the set must be 24" or so at
> it's smallest. =A0I have never seen a bigger TV set in my life (that is
> like this one). =A0Somebody said it has feet but it doesn't. =A0I had to
> pick my left nut off the floor last night because I wanted to see if
> there were feet and I was too impatient to wait for anybody to help
> me. =A0The bottom isn't flat as there are ridges all around but I figure
> that is to strengthen the plastic.
>
> Nonetheless, whenever I was flipping it back up onto it's base, it
> took all I had and I hope I am not so old that 100 pounds feels that
> heavy!!

Crap, why does my daughter keep logging me out!!!!!!!!!!!! Dang
kids.

Megan Kinzler wrote:

>
>
> Oh, it IS at least 150 pounds. The tube is HUGE. And the back does
> not get smallish, either. The back of the set must be 24" or so at
> it's smallest. I have never seen a bigger TV set in my life (that is
> like this one). Somebody said it has feet but it doesn't. I had to
> pick my left nut off the floor last night because I wanted to see if
> there were feet and I was too impatient to wait for anybody to help
> me. The bottom isn't flat as there are ridges all around but I figure
> that is to strengthen the plastic.
>
> Nonetheless, whenever I was flipping it back up onto it's base, it
> took all I had and I hope I am not so old that 100 pounds feels that
> heavy!!

Huh. Our heaviest TV is a 32" down in the den. It's not HD and it is a
traditional tube. Kinda ugly, but it was a gift, and it has a great
picture, so I get over the ugly part. It's heavy, but not 100 lbs for sure.
I can get it up on the stand by myself, but prefer a helper - more because
it's so awkward. 100 pounds can feel heavy for me, or feel not so heavy -
depends on what I'm lifting. 100 lbs of TV feels heavy. 100 lbs of female
would be easy to lift on my lap...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

busbus wrote:
> On Aug 13, 9:42 am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> busbus wrote:
>>
>>> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
>>> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
>>> as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
>>> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece
>>> of 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all
>>> four legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards
>>> halfway down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>>
>>> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>
>> You would be surprised at the weight that a seemingly light duty
>> stand, will carry. There's no need to use two-by lumber for this
>> type of project - one-by will work just fine. Take a look at how
>> lighter weight materials are typically used for applications like
>> this. You can use 1/8" luan plywood for the top if you build
>> structural framing under it, for example. It's largely a matter of
>> taste, but I don't like the look of two-by lumber for furniture.
>> Looks too clunky for my tastes. 150 pounds is not a lot of weight to
>> support, and it's not a concentrated weight - it's spread across a
>> 32" span. That is actually in your favor. It's worth looking at the
>> commercial stuff that is on the market and seeing if you can get
>> some ideas from that. Just remember that you don't need to go the
>> route of building materials that are typically used to support
>> houses, for a simple TV stand.
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Mike-
>> [email protected]
>
>
> Ahhhhhhhhhh...you got me thinking. If I use 1x4s to make the legs the
> same way I was going to build them with the 2x4s but connect them with
> the same 1x4s installed horizontally at the top of the legs and some
> more 1x's halfway down to hold a shelf and to make the thing a little
> stronger. Then place, what? 1/2" crap stuff on top?
>
> By the way, I thought about painting the thing black... :o)
>
> I like the idea of using glued sawdust panels but I know at least
> these two guys are not going to be, uh, sane, and I can see them
> bounce into the unit and have it end up on the floor.
>
> Who am I kidding?! We are talking about a college dorm room and I can
> give a rat's ass about aesthetics. I want something that is hell for
> strong and cheap. 2x4s and a 2x12 is cheap. I can probably build
> this for less than $20 or $25 if I use 2-bys.

Hell, use cement blocks and a board.

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busbus wrote:

> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and
> his
> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. They just HAD to
> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the
> $400
> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.

> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV.
> Don't
> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
--------------------------------------
Wait till they figure out they are there to study, not watch TV.

My bet is the room doesn't have any space left over for this monster.

Lew

busbus <[email protected]> wrote in news:860f61b8-b0ad-45f9-b3ed-
[email protected]:

> Well, I happened to stop at IKEA at lunch time and they had a find in
> the scratch and dent room. It was a smaller TV stand, about 24 x 24.
> The TV is at least 8-inches wider than the table top but I figure I
> may be able to simply screw a 24 x 32 x 1/2" piece of plywood I have
> laying around on top and leave it at that.
>
> There is no weight specifications, so I don't know if it will hold
> 100-200 pounds. There was a bigger one upstairs that looked like this
> one and the weight limit was 60 pounds. But I am at the point that I
> just want to get this over with.

Sit on it. Does it deflect badly?

My school issued us 2 drawer dressers that we'd often stack and put our
TVs on. One of them would fit your need perfectly.

All you need is a simple 1x4 frame to support a piece of 3/4" plywood.
Use 2x4s ripped in half for legs, and call it done. (A few braces on the
legs would be a good thing, though.) At 2'x4', that's the basis for a N-
trak module. It'll handle the TV easily. (Beware 1/2" plywood. I had
some that sagged so easily I had to have supports every 8 inches.)

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

"Mike Marlow" wrote:
>
> Is that what your college days were all about? Hell, mine were
> about tits and ass and I didn't even see the cement blocks and
> boards...
-------------------
What, no beer or Hairy Buffaloes?

Lew

On Aug 13, 5:59=A0am, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. =A0They just HAD to
> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>
> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. =A0Don't
> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds. =A0They don't have
> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>
> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. =A0Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> as cheap as possible! =A0I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. =A0Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> Does this sound like a plan? =A0Of course, I originally thought of a
> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. =A0Ain't
> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> busbus

This may give you some useful info:

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5UqJqt5Lat1pwwVUah2zVf1NqQ

On Aug 13, 9:59=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> busbus wrote:
paint it. Tell the moms to pick out a table cover, preferably
something like a giant doilie, with lots of lace and pastel covers.

> If it was me, I'd consider two (or three) milk crates and a large pillow
> case.


And ply/MDF on top the crates, right?
I second this option, but with a drape cloth (a pastel lace doily
sounds excellent, LOL), rather than pillow (en)casing the crates.
They can paint the "countertop", themselves.... a cloth covering
would get dirty, quickly. Drape the crates, not the ply. Use the
crate space for storage. If height is needed, such that 4 crates are
used, 2 stacked on 2, tie the crates together with wire ties.

Sonny

Lobby Dosser wrote:

> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.

I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's not even
likely. Think of the last console TV you lifted from back in the 80's -
they weren't that heavy. More like 40-60 lbs.


--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On Aug 13, 11:45=A0pm, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Lobby Dosser wrote:
> > The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>
> I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's not ev=
en
> likely. =A0Think of the last console TV you lifted from back in the 80's =
-
> they weren't that heavy. =A0More like 40-60 lbs.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]


Oh, it IS at least 150 pounds. The tube is HUGE. And the back does
not get smallish, either. The back of the set must be 24" or so at
it's smallest. I have never seen a bigger TV set in my life (that is
like this one). Somebody said it has feet but it doesn't. I had to
pick my left nut off the floor last night because I wanted to see if
there were feet and I was too impatient to wait for anybody to help
me. The bottom isn't flat as there are ridges all around but I figure
that is to strengthen the plastic.

Nonetheless, whenever I was flipping it back up onto it's base, it
took all I had and I hope I am not so old that 100 pounds feels that
heavy!!

[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:45:49 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>>> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>>
>> I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's
>> not even likely. Think of the last console TV you lifted from back
>> in the 80's - they weren't that heavy. More like 40-60 lbs.
>
> 32" flat screen CRT? Yeah they are that heavy. That's a *lot* of
> glass and often MDF casing. Our 1982 vintage 25" RCA table top was
> 100 lbs.

Damn - I was stronger than I realize back then, I guess. I just put up a
32" flat screen in our bedroom - using a wall mount. I know that one is
well under 100 lbs. I hung a mount that would carry 100 lbs, but only
because I wanted the movements it was capable of. It's quite over capacity
for the TV hanging from it.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

busbus wrote:

>
> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>

You would be surprised at the weight that a seemingly light duty stand, will
carry. There's no need to use two-by lumber for this type of project -
one-by will work just fine. Take a look at how lighter weight materials are
typically used for applications like this. You can use 1/8" luan plywood
for the top if you build structural framing under it, for example. It's
largely a matter of taste, but I don't like the look of two-by lumber for
furniture. Looks too clunky for my tastes. 150 pounds is not a lot of
weight to support, and it's not a concentrated weight - it's spread across a
32" span. That is actually in your favor. It's worth looking at the
commercial stuff that is on the market and seeing if you can get some ideas
from that. Just remember that you don't need to go the route of building
materials that are typically used to support houses, for a simple TV stand.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Well, I happened to stop at IKEA at lunch time and they had a find in
the scratch and dent room. It was a smaller TV stand, about 24 x 24.
The TV is at least 8-inches wider than the table top but I figure I
may be able to simply screw a 24 x 32 x 1/2" piece of plywood I have
laying around on top and leave it at that.

There is no weight specifications, so I don't know if it will hold
100-200 pounds. There was a bigger one upstairs that looked like this
one and the weight limit was 60 pounds. But I am at the point that I
just want to get this over with.

On Aug 13, 4:59=A0am, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
> My son is starting his first year of college ... just HAD to
> have a TV .

> it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds.

Probably, it has four feet. Those, you have to support well,
so put the legs and whatever bracing goes under the tabletop
under those four feet.

The tabletop, actually, is only to collect clutter like the remote
or a TV guide... shelves well below the TV are more useful
than a tabletop.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>>> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>>
>> I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's
>> not even likely. Think of the last console TV you lifted from back
>> in the 80's - they weren't that heavy. More like 40-60 lbs.
>
> I had a 32" HD TV by Phillips. It is the largest HD TV made with a
> CRT. It weighed 185 pounds. Took two of us to get it unloaded and
> lifted onto the stand. A flat screen of that size is about 30#.

I think I'm glad I missed out on the early HDTV fad...

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:11:46 -0700, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:3Kd9o.32433$y_2.5153@hurricane:
>>
>>> Hell, use cement blocks and a board.
>>
>> Oh, those college days!
>>
>
>College? I've still got some cement blocks and boards in the garage right
>now. If I ever clear off the shelves, I'll build something more
>aesthetically pleasing

One problem with dorm-modern furniture is carting the stuff home between
years. That television isn't going to be a picnic either. I was married and
lived off-campus so I could leave our "early orange crate" furniture in one
place.

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> 32" flat screen CRT? Yeah they are that heavy. That's a *lot* of
>> glass and often MDF casing. Our 1982 vintage 25" RCA table top was
>> 100 lbs.
>
> Damn - I was stronger than I realize back then, I guess. I just put up a
> 32" flat screen in our bedroom - using a wall mount. I know that one is
> well under 100 lbs. I hung a mount that would carry 100 lbs, but only
> because I wanted the movements it was capable of. It's quite over
> capacity for the TV hanging from it.
>

An LED or LCD flat screen is about 30 pounds. Much different than the CRT
he has.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:03:53 -0700, Lobby Dosser wrote:

> "basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:42:33 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:35:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT), busbus wrote:
>>>>>> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
>>>>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
>>>>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for
>>>>> the top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a
>>>>> shelf.
>>>>
>>>>go to radio shack and get a swivel wall mount, easy and saves floor
>>>>space.
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea what a large mount like that costs, sir? (HINT:
>>> it's about $200 more than bricks and low-grade tubatwelves.)
>>
>> I've got one in the bedroom, don't recall what I paid for it, wasn't
>> that much though. I do remember how hard it was for an old fat man to
>> carry a 30 inch crt tv 9 feet up a ladder.
>>
>> basilisk
>
>
> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.

crt=cathode ray tube

basilisk



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"busbus" <[email protected]> wrote
> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. Don't
> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds.

Sounds like the TV I got rid of recently. Mine was 185 pounds and had a
CRT, not a flat panel like the new ones. Flat panels that size weigh about
30 pounds.

A box with well place center support will take that weight.

I have (ugh) a Sony 36" HDTV 720 in a large square tube. It is in our game room
since we moved here. It is heavy. Tube and heavy glass front. Nice picture.
We bought it on the first get ready for HD maybe 10 years ago now.

Martin

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On 8/14/2010 8:46 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:45:49 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>>> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>>
>> I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's not even
>> likely. Think of the last console TV you lifted from back in the 80's -
>> they weren't that heavy. More like 40-60 lbs.
>
> My Panasonic 27" crt from 2001 is likely 80+ pounds, so a thirty-odd
> incher is surely more.

"busbus" <[email protected]> wrote
> Well, I happened to stop at IKEA at lunch time and they had a find in
> the scratch and dent room. It was a smaller TV stand, about 24 x 24.
> The TV is at least 8-inches wider than the table top but I figure I
> may be able to simply screw a 24 x 32 x 1/2" piece of plywood I have
> laying around on top and leave it at that.

One word of caution. If this is like my old TV, the weight was concentrated
at the front of the tube. If I set it close to the front, it was tippy on a
stand. It was OK to have a foot of the back hanging off though as there is
no weight there. Moving it back 2" made a huge difference.

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:3Kd9o.32433$y_2.5153@hurricane:

> Hell, use cement blocks and a board.

Oh, those college days!

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Han wrote:
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:3Kd9o.32433$y_2.5153@hurricane:
>
>> Hell, use cement blocks and a board.
>
> Oh, those college days!

Is that what your college days were all about? Hell, mine were about tits
and ass and I didn't even see the cement blocks and boards...

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[email protected]

On Aug 13, 4:24=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> busbus wrote:
> > My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and
> > his
> > roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. They just HAD to
> > have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the
> > $400
> > flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
> > Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> > exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV.
> > Don't
> > ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> > school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> --------------------------------------
> Wait till they figure out they are there to study, not watch TV.
>
> My bet is the room doesn't have any space left over for this monster.
>
> Lew


AGREED!!!

Told them that. They don't care! Hell, it's their $25. If one of
them needs to sleep on the floor, so be it!!!

busbus wrote:
> On Aug 13, 9:42 am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> busbus wrote:
>>
>>> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
>>> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
>>> as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
>>> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece
>>> of 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all
>>> four legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards
>>> halfway down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>>
>>> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>
>> You would be surprised at the weight that a seemingly light duty
>> stand, will carry. There's no need to use two-by lumber for this
>> type of project - one-by will work just fine. Take a look at how
>> lighter weight materials are typically used for applications like
>> this. You can use 1/8" luan plywood for the top if you build
>> structural framing under it, for example. It's largely a matter of
>> taste, but I don't like the look of two-by lumber for furniture.
>> Looks too clunky for my tastes. 150 pounds is not a lot of weight to
>> support, and it's not a concentrated weight - it's spread across a
>> 32" span. That is actually in your favor. It's worth looking at the
>> commercial stuff that is on the market and seeing if you can get
>> some ideas from that. Just remember that you don't need to go the
>> route of building materials that are typically used to support
>> houses, for a simple TV stand.
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Mike-
>> [email protected]
>
>
> Ahhhhhhhhhh...you got me thinking. If I use 1x4s to make the legs the
> same way I was going to build them with the 2x4s but connect them with
> the same 1x4s installed horizontally at the top of the legs and some
> more 1x's halfway down to hold a shelf and to make the thing a little
> stronger. Then place, what? 1/2" crap stuff on top?
>
> By the way, I thought about painting the thing black... :o)
>
> I like the idea of using glued sawdust panels but I know at least
> these two guys are not going to be, uh, sane, and I can see them
> bounce into the unit and have it end up on the floor.
>
> Who am I kidding?! We are talking about a college dorm room and I can
> give a rat's ass about aesthetics. I want something that is hell for
> strong and cheap. 2x4s and a 2x12 is cheap. I can probably build
> this for less than $20 or $25 if I use 2-bys.

Don't paint it. Tell the moms to pick out a table cover, preferably
something like a giant doilie, with lots of lace and pastel covers.

If it was me, I'd consider two (or three) milk crates and a large pillow
case.

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>
> I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's not
> even likely. Think of the last console TV you lifted from back in the
> 80's - they weren't that heavy. More like 40-60 lbs.

I had a 32" HD TV by Phillips. It is the largest HD TV made with a CRT. It
weighed 185 pounds. Took two of us to get it unloaded and lifted onto the
stand. A flat screen of that size is about 30#.

On Aug 13, 11:42=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hell, use cement blocks and a board.
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________

I am 100% for this route. It's just a shame that moms have to be
involved. The boys just want something, anything, to get it up in the
air about 18" or so. I am just going to slap together some 2x's and
it will be what it will be.

I like the suggestion of no paint. This stupid thing will be for
function 100%. No way am I going to let SWMBO see the comment about
doilies, lace, and pastel colors. Hell, she'd jump all over that!!!

I don't have any old milk crates hanging around; otherwise, I would do
that in a heartbeat. Some 2x's, a few wood screws, and some glue is
going to be the way I go I think.

I still have no clue where these knuckleheads are going to put the
stupid thing. Maybe I can hang it from the ceiling and they need to
lay on their backs to watch it. That would open up a lot of floor and
wall space. It would also play right into the young male's mind
because the love extreme sports. This would be extreme TV watching
because a 200+ pound TV could fall on you while you watch it and you
could die. Sounds stupid enough to have kids start trying it.

On Aug 13, 7:59=A0am, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. =A0They just HAD to
> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>
> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. =A0Don't
> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds. =A0They don't have
> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>
> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. =A0Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> as cheap as possible! =A0I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. =A0Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> Does this sound like a plan? =A0Of course, I originally thought of a
> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. =A0Ain't
> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> busbus


Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for the
top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a shelf.

On Aug 13, 8:35=A0am, basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT), busbus wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 7:59=A0am, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
> >> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. =A0They just HAD to
> >> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
> >> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>
> >> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> >> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. =A0Don=
't
> >> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> >> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> >> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
> >> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> >> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds. =A0They don't have
> >> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
> >> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>
> >> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> >> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. =A0Needless to say, I want this thing to b=
e
> >> as cheap as possible! =A0I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> >> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> >> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. =A0Maybe use a 1" board to connect all fou=
r
> >> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> >> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> >> Does this sound like a plan? =A0Of course, I originally thought of a
> >> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. =A0Ain't
> >> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> >> busbus
>
> > Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for the
> > top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a shelf.
>
> go to radio shack and get a swivel wall mount, easy and saves floor
> space.
>
> basilisk

I almost got tossed out of residence for putting a thumbtack in the
wall. Of course a few Tapcons and a quiet hammer drill...... (you were
kidding, right?)

On Aug 13, 9:42=A0am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> busbus wrote:
>
> > So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> > either 3/4" MDF or plywood. =A0Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> > as cheap as possible! =A0I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> > together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> > 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. =A0Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> > legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> > down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> > Does this sound like a plan? =A0Of course, I originally thought of a
> > couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. =A0Ain't
> > nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> You would be surprised at the weight that a seemingly light duty stand, w=
ill
> carry. =A0There's no need to use two-by lumber for this type of project -
> one-by will work just fine. =A0Take a look at how lighter weight material=
s are
> typically used for applications like this. =A0You can use 1/8" luan plywo=
od
> for the top if you build structural framing under it, for example. =A0It'=
s
> largely a matter of taste, but I don't like the look of two-by lumber for
> furniture. =A0Looks too clunky for my tastes. =A0150 pounds is not a lot =
of
> weight to support, and it's not a concentrated weight - it's spread acros=
s a
> 32" span. =A0That is actually in your favor. =A0It's worth looking at the
> commercial stuff that is on the market and seeing if you can get some ide=
as
> from that. =A0Just remember that you don't need to go the route of buildi=
ng
> materials that are typically used to support houses, for a simple TV stan=
d.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]


Okay, mostly built using scrap 1x4s and one 1x6. I have four 1x4s and
three 1x6s going along the top (which is 24 inches). There are six
gaps at about 1.75 inches. Part of me wants to leave as is and part
says to slap on a piece of luan i have laying around. I also put a
shelf in the middle, as much for strength as for storage.

I may have overbuilt it but the last thing I want is that huge thing
on somebody's foot!!!!!!!!

On Aug 13, 9:42=A0am, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> busbus wrote:
>
> > So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> > either 3/4" MDF or plywood. =A0Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> > as cheap as possible! =A0I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> > together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> > 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. =A0Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> > legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> > down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> > Does this sound like a plan? =A0Of course, I originally thought of a
> > couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. =A0Ain't
> > nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> You would be surprised at the weight that a seemingly light duty stand, w=
ill
> carry. =A0There's no need to use two-by lumber for this type of project -
> one-by will work just fine. =A0Take a look at how lighter weight material=
s are
> typically used for applications like this. =A0You can use 1/8" luan plywo=
od
> for the top if you build structural framing under it, for example. =A0It'=
s
> largely a matter of taste, but I don't like the look of two-by lumber for
> furniture. =A0Looks too clunky for my tastes. =A0150 pounds is not a lot =
of
> weight to support, and it's not a concentrated weight - it's spread acros=
s a
> 32" span. =A0That is actually in your favor. =A0It's worth looking at the
> commercial stuff that is on the market and seeing if you can get some ide=
as
> from that. =A0Just remember that you don't need to go the route of buildi=
ng
> materials that are typically used to support houses, for a simple TV stan=
d.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]


Ahhhhhhhhhh...you got me thinking. If I use 1x4s to make the legs the
same way I was going to build them with the 2x4s but connect them with
the same 1x4s installed horizontally at the top of the legs and some
more 1x's halfway down to hold a shelf and to make the thing a little
stronger. Then place, what? 1/2" crap stuff on top?

By the way, I thought about painting the thing black... :o)

I like the idea of using glued sawdust panels but I know at least
these two guys are not going to be, uh, sane, and I can see them
bounce into the unit and have it end up on the floor.

Who am I kidding?! We are talking about a college dorm room and I can
give a rat's ass about aesthetics. I want something that is hell for
strong and cheap. 2x4s and a 2x12 is cheap. I can probably build
this for less than $20 or $25 if I use 2-bys.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:35:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT), busbus wrote:
>
>> On Aug 13, 7:59 am, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
>>> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List.  They just HAD to
>>> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
>>> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>>>
>>> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
>>> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV.  Don't
>>> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
>>> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>>>
>>> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
>>> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
>>> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds.  They don't have
>>> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
>>> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>>>
>>> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
>>> either 3/4" MDF or plywood.  Needless to say, I want this thing to be
>>> as cheap as possible!  I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
>>> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
>>> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top.  Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
>>> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
>>> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>>>
>>> Does this sound like a plan?  Of course, I originally thought of a
>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked.  Ain't
>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>>
>>> busbus
>>
>>
>> Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for the
>> top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a shelf.
>
>go to radio shack and get a swivel wall mount, easy and saves floor
>space.
>
>basilisk
For a 30 inch CRT?????

On 8/13/2010 7:59 AM, busbus wrote:
> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. They just HAD to
> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>
> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. Don't
> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds. They don't have
> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>
> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> busbus
>

I think I would use 2 X 4 for the corners. I would put the 4" side of
the back pieces parallel to the front of the TV; and the front two,
perpendicular to the front of the TV. I would then rabbeted a 1 X 4
into the top of the 2X4 to to form the top of the stand, and then cut
dadoes for another band of 1 X 4 several inches from the floor. That
would give you a stand with the strength and bracing sufficient for to
hold the TV. Make the dadoes as tight as possible.

If you don't think the 1X4 would give you the strength you need they
could be half lapped into the legs

If you used a better quality of 2X4 and 1X4 you would only need to cut a
shelf to fit the bottom 1X4's, and a piece for the top and it should be
strong and look pretty good.

On 8/13/10 11:42 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> busbus wrote:
>> On Aug 13, 9:42 am, "Mike Marlow"<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> busbus wrote:
>>>
>>>> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
>>>> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
>>>> as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
>>>> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece
>>>> of 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all
>>>> four legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards
>>>> halfway down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>>>
>>>> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
>>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
>>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>>
>>> You would be surprised at the weight that a seemingly light duty
>>> stand, will carry. There's no need to use two-by lumber for this
>>> type of project - one-by will work just fine. Take a look at how
>>> lighter weight materials are typically used for applications like
>>> this. You can use 1/8" luan plywood for the top if you build
>>> structural framing under it, for example. It's largely a matter of
>>> taste, but I don't like the look of two-by lumber for furniture.
>>> Looks too clunky for my tastes. 150 pounds is not a lot of weight to
>>> support, and it's not a concentrated weight - it's spread across a
>>> 32" span. That is actually in your favor. It's worth looking at the
>>> commercial stuff that is on the market and seeing if you can get
>>> some ideas from that. Just remember that you don't need to go the
>>> route of building materials that are typically used to support
>>> houses, for a simple TV stand.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Mike-
>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>> Ahhhhhhhhhh...you got me thinking. If I use 1x4s to make the legs the
>> same way I was going to build them with the 2x4s but connect them with
>> the same 1x4s installed horizontally at the top of the legs and some
>> more 1x's halfway down to hold a shelf and to make the thing a little
>> stronger. Then place, what? 1/2" crap stuff on top?
>>
>> By the way, I thought about painting the thing black... :o)
>>
>> I like the idea of using glued sawdust panels but I know at least
>> these two guys are not going to be, uh, sane, and I can see them
>> bounce into the unit and have it end up on the floor.
>>
>> Who am I kidding?! We are talking about a college dorm room and I can
>> give a rat's ass about aesthetics. I want something that is hell for
>> strong and cheap. 2x4s and a 2x12 is cheap. I can probably build
>> this for less than $20 or $25 if I use 2-bys.
>
> Hell, use cement blocks and a board.
>
Hell with that, beer case furniture.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

On 8/13/2010 11:56 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Aug 13, 9:59 am, "HeyBub"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> busbus wrote:
> paint it. Tell the moms to pick out a table cover, preferably
> something like a giant doilie, with lots of lace and pastel covers.
>
>> If it was me, I'd consider two (or three) milk crates and a large pillow
>> case.
>
>
> And ply/MDF on top the crates, right?
> I second this option, but with a drape cloth (a pastel lace doily
> sounds excellent, LOL), rather than pillow (en)casing the crates.
> They can paint the "countertop", themselves.... a cloth covering
> would get dirty, quickly. Drape the crates, not the ply. Use the
> crate space for storage. If height is needed, such that 4 crates are
> used, 2 stacked on 2, tie the crates together with wire ties.

The original 2x12 and concrete block solution is traditional. If the
kids can find the right person to ask they can probably find such that
has been abandoned by a graduating senior.

On 8/13/2010 2:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "busbus" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
>> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. Don't
>> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
>> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>>
>> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
>> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
>> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds.
>
> Sounds like the TV I got rid of recently. Mine was 185 pounds and had a
> CRT, not a flat panel like the new ones. Flat panels that size weigh
> about 30 pounds.
>
> A box with well place center support will take that weight.

One of my favorite temporary expedients is a corrugated cardboard
packing box with a piece of plywood laid across the top. It's amazing
how much that can hold as long as it doesn't get wet. Perhaps a couple
of 18x18x18s--under 10 bucks at Staples for new ones.

On 8/13/10 5:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "busbus" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Well, I happened to stop at IKEA at lunch time and they had a find in
>> the scratch and dent room. It was a smaller TV stand, about 24 x 24.
>> The TV is at least 8-inches wider than the table top but I figure I
>> may be able to simply screw a 24 x 32 x 1/2" piece of plywood I have
>> laying around on top and leave it at that.
>
> One word of caution. If this is like my old TV, the weight was
> concentrated at the front of the tube. If I set it close to the front,
> it was tippy on a stand. It was OK to have a foot of the back hanging
> off though as there is no weight there. Moving it back 2" made a huge
> difference.
>
>
Yep, just tossed a 29" Sony CRT TV, heavy SOB, replaced with a 32 inch
Sony LCD, the shelf is actually starting starting to get straight again
by some miracle.
:-)

--
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"basilisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:42:33 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:35:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT), busbus wrote:
>>>>> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
>>>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
>>>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for the
>>>> top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a shelf.
>>>
>>>go to radio shack and get a swivel wall mount, easy and saves floor
>>>space.
>>
>> Do you have any idea what a large mount like that costs, sir? (HINT:
>> it's about $200 more than bricks and low-grade tubatwelves.)
>
> I've got one in the bedroom, don't recall what I paid for it, wasn't
> that much though. I do remember how hard it was for an old fat man to
> carry a 30 inch crt tv 9 feet up a ladder.
>
> basilisk


The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.

"busbus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:d29ee17a-5168-45b1-858e-9c74f04438f8@y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. They just HAD to
> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>
> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. Don't
> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds. They don't have
> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>
> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> busbus
>

How about a triangular stand? Make the 'corner' point square. These big old
TVs like some support at the back (tube) end, but you don't need to waste
space with a square or rectangular stand.

"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:3Kd9o.32433$y_2.5153@hurricane:
>
>> Hell, use cement blocks and a board.
>
> Oh, those college days!
>

College? I've still got some cement blocks and boards in the garage right
now. If I ever clear off the shelves, I'll build something more
aesthetically pleasing

"whit3rd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8b7dd00f-eef3-4b8e-963e-1c071e83af6d@g17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 13, 4:59 am, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
> My son is starting his first year of college ... just HAD to
> have a TV .

> it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds.

Probably, it has four feet. Those, you have to support well,
so put the legs and whatever bracing goes under the tabletop
under those four feet.

The tabletop, actually, is only to collect clutter like the remote
or a TV guide... shelves well below the TV are more useful
than a tabletop.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
And a DVD player is bound to be added. Maybe X-Box ...

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:11:46 -0700, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:3Kd9o.32433$y_2.5153@hurricane:
>>>
>>>> Hell, use cement blocks and a board.
>>>
>>> Oh, those college days!
>>>
>>
>>College? I've still got some cement blocks and boards in the garage right
>>now. If I ever clear off the shelves, I'll build something more
>>aesthetically pleasing
>
> One problem with dorm-modern furniture is carting the stuff home between
> years. That television isn't going to be a picnic either. I was married
> and
> lived off-campus so I could leave our "early orange crate" furniture in
> one
> place.


I've got one of those TVs. A 36" Sony that probably weighs closer to 200#,
maybe more. I was having some yard work done and two guys ten bucks each to
move it from one stand to another. The state now has a recycling program for
this stuff, so when it dies I can have it hauled away for a reasonable
price.

On 8/14/2010 11:36 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>> 32" flat screen CRT? Yeah they are that heavy. That's a *lot* of
>>> glass and often MDF casing. Our 1982 vintage 25" RCA table top was
>>> 100 lbs.
>>
>> Damn - I was stronger than I realize back then, I guess. I just put up
>> a 32" flat screen in our bedroom - using a wall mount. I know that one
>> is well under 100 lbs. I hung a mount that would carry 100 lbs, but
>> only because I wanted the movements it was capable of. It's quite over
>> capacity for the TV hanging from it.
>>
>
> An LED or LCD flat screen is about 30 pounds. Much different than the
> CRT he has.

I think people are confused by his use of "flat screen" and are assuming
he's talking about an LCD or plasma instead of the kind of CRTs with
flat faces that Zenith developed about 30 years back.

Or maybe they're just kids who have never seen a CRT.

The one under discussion is something like this:

<http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KV-32FS120-32-Inch-Trinitron-Flat-Screen/dp/B0002FO3JC>.

or this:

<http://reviews.cnet.com/direct-view-tvs-crt/zenith-32-flat-screen/1707-6481_7-20604307.html>

All you folks who say that it can't be that heavy, note the dimensions,
including depth, and the weight.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:35:32 -0500, basilisk <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT), busbus wrote:
>>> Does this sound like a plan?  Of course, I originally thought of a
>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked.  Ain't
>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>
>> Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for the
>> top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a shelf.
>
>go to radio shack and get a swivel wall mount, easy and saves floor
>space.

Do you have any idea what a large mount like that costs, sir? (HINT:
it's about $200 more than bricks and low-grade tubatwelves.)

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:59:59 -0700 (PDT), busbus <[email protected]>
wrote:

>My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
>roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. They just HAD to
>have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
>flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>
>Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
>exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. Don't
>ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
>school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.

<g>


>But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
>is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
>and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds. They don't have
>much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
>not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.

You will definitely need either to put a support directly under the
center of the top, or double up the top's thickness, or install 1x2"
center and front reinforcement strips under the top shelf. I forgot
what those are called.


>So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
>either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
>as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
>together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
>3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
>legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
>down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.

No legs. Make a box (with a back) of termite barf or plywood. Glue 'n
screw it together so it will withstand the rigors of dorm life. (Think
BRICK SHITHOUSE.) Paint it white and send it over.


>Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
>couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
>nothing going to be cheaper than that!

Wimmenfolk. <sigh>

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:30:20 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy wrote:

> On Aug 13, 8:35 am, basilisk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT), busbus wrote:
>>> On Aug 13, 7:59 am, busbus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
>>>> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List.  They just HAD to
>>>> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
>>>> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>>
>>>> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
>>>> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV.  Don't
>>>> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
>>>> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>>
>>>> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
>>>> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
>>>> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds.  They don't have
>>>> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
>>>> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>>
>>>> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
>>>> either 3/4" MDF or plywood.  Needless to say, I want this thing to be
>>>> as cheap as possible!  I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
>>>> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
>>>> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top.  Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
>>>> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
>>>> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>>
>>>> Does this sound like a plan?  Of course, I originally thought of a
>>>> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked.  Ain't
>>>> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>>
>>>> busbus
>>
>>> Actually, I think it may even be cheaper to use a couple 2x12s for the
>>> top and find a piece of thin ply I have laying around to make a shelf.
>>
>> go to radio shack and get a swivel wall mount, easy and saves floor
>> space.
>>
>> basilisk
>
> I almost got tossed out of residence for putting a thumbtack in the
> wall. Of course a few Tapcons and a quiet hammer drill...... (you were
> kidding, right?)

Easier to get forgiveness, than it is to get permission.

basilisk

If you want it cheap and strong, Try this.

Use 1x4's for the legs, but rip them diagonally - measure over about 1" from
each side on the opposite ends and draw your line. Cut along the line and
form an "L" out of the pieces. Glue and screw an apron between the four
legs with a 1x4 , stretcher on the inside of the four "L's" (mitering the
corners on the apron pieces will give you more glue surface) Glue and screw,
or nail (pocket screws would be very good here) one more short length of 1/4
between the center of the front and back 1x4. Nail, or screw, and glue the
MDF to the top.

Deb



busbus wrote:

> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. They just HAD to
> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>
> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. Don't
> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds. They don't have
> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>
> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> busbus

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:45:49 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>
>I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's not even
>likely. Think of the last console TV you lifted from back in the 80's -
>they weren't that heavy. More like 40-60 lbs.

32" flat screen CRT? Yeah they are that heavy. That's a *lot* of glass and
often MDF casing. Our 1982 vintage 25" RCA table top was 100 lbs.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:45:49 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>> The OP is talking about a Tube TV of 150+ Pounds.
>
>I know that he stated he thought it was 150 pounds - but... that's not even
>likely. Think of the last console TV you lifted from back in the 80's -
>they weren't that heavy. More like 40-60 lbs.

My Panasonic 27" crt from 2001 is likely 80+ pounds, so a thirty-odd
incher is surely more.

"busbus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:d29ee17a-5168-45b1-858e-9c74f04438f8@y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> My son is starting his first year of college next week and he and his
> roommate have discovered the joys of Craig's List. They just HAD to
> have a TV but neither set of parents were willing to buy them the $400
> flat screen they were lobbying for, so they went scrounging.
>
> Now, I love the fact that they decided to go this way and they found
> exactly what they wanted: an old, 32-inch, flat-screen tube TV. Don't
> ask me how the heck they are going to fit it into their dorm room at
> school and I don't care if one of them has to sleep on the floor.
>
> But I am going to try to slap together a quick stand for it and here
> is the rub: it is 32" wide (because the speakers are on either side)
> and 23" deep and has to weigh well over 150 pounds. They don't have
> much room, obviously, and the stands we see in the stores either do
> not support the sheer wight of this monster or they are way too wide.
>
> So I was thinking about slapping one together myself using 2x4s and
> either 3/4" MDF or plywood. Needless to say, I want this thing to be
> as cheap as possible! I was thinking about gluing two 18" 2x4s
> together to make an ELL for each of four legs and then lay a piece of
> 3/4" plywood or MDF on top. Maybe use a 1" board to connect all four
> legs together at the top and then another set of 1" boards halfway
> down to put a shelf in plus it should help it stay together.
>
> Does this sound like a plan? Of course, I originally thought of a
> couple 2x12s and some 12" concrete blocks but the moms puked. Ain't
> nothing going to be cheaper than that!
>
> busbus
>

The plank and block shelf is a classic. How could they not like that?