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"R.H."

23/08/2007 4:19 AM

What is it? CXCIV

This week's set has just been posted:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Rob


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Rich

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 7:52 AM

R.H. wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob

1072 Ice scraper for windshields

Rich

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 4:17 AM

On Aug 23, 4:19 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
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> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

1071 is a marking knife for timber - a timber scribe.

R

JM

John Martin

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 6:23 AM

On Aug 23, 4:19 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
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> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1069: A homemade foot valve for some sort of water pump?

1071: Ditto on the race knife or timber scribe.

John Martin

bb

bremen68

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 8:23 AM

On Aug 23, 4:19 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
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> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
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> Rob

1068 Looks like a bearing puller to me I have a similar one in the
garage

1071 Can opener on a pocket knife

Pp

Pythor

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

24/08/2007 6:57 AM

On Aug 23, 4:19 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1072 is a fish scaler. Recently reviewed on Cool Tools Blog(http://
www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001778.php).

Lee

SR

Stephen Robinson

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 5:11 PM

R.H. wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1067 Earth clamp for doing electrical isolations.

DW

"Dave W"

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 9:09 AM

1071 - I have seen these used to scribe the waterline on the hull of wooden
boats. In that service, it is called a race knife.
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Aug 23, 4:19 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This week's set has just been posted:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> 1071 is a marking knife for timber - a timber scribe.
>
> R
>

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

24/08/2007 4:56 PM

Five of the six have been answered correctly, I'm still not sure about 1068:


http://pzphotosans194-6.blogspot.com/



Rob

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

25/08/2007 10:09 AM

I've found DoN's guesses to be observant, thoughtful, and well founded.


"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Don Murray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> R.H. wrote:
>>> This week's set has just been posted:
>>>
>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>> 1067 Is called a hot tap. It is for high voltage, it is missing the tee
>> lug that a jumper would go in. The ring on the bottom is where a tool
>> called a shotgun would go in, which is a long stick with a control rod
>> that can hook in the ring, you hold this a foot or so above the power
>> line and pull it down and the bill on the hot tap will catch the hot
>> power line. Then you turn it to close the bottom jaw. ok for picking up
>> load but not so good for dropping load. This one will work from #8 to 2/0
>> wire.
>>
>> Don
>
> Seriously Don, if you don't know what it is, stop with the wild guesses.
>
> todd
>

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

25/08/2007 9:25 AM

"Dave Baker" wrote in message
>
> "Alexander Thesoso" wrote in message
>> I've found DoN's guesses to be observant, thoughtful, and well founded.
>
> A) Whoooosh
> B) I tend to find people who top post to be unobservant, thoughtless and
> destined for the kill file.

Depends, if you don't/can't/won't trim, then I much prefer you top post.
Otherwise, when in Rome ....

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Don Murray

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 6:47 AM



R.H. wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1067 Is called a hot tap. It is for high voltage, it is missing the tee
lug that a jumper would go in. The ring on the bottom is where a tool
called a shotgun would go in, which is a long stick with a control rod
that can hook in the ring, you hold this a foot or so above the power
line and pull it down and the bill on the hot tap will catch the hot
power line. Then you turn it to close the bottom jaw. ok for picking up
load but not so good for dropping load. This one will work from #8 to
2/0 wire.

Don

tp

technomaNge

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 7:55 PM

R.H. wrote:
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> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob

No. 1069: Sample collector, plunged into a
wagonload/truckload of grain.


technomaNge
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[email protected] (DoN. Nichols)

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

24/08/2007 12:46 AM

According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1067) This looks to be to quickly make and/or break
connections to power lines in the range from 8 gauge to 2-0
gauge.

1068) And this looks to be to support the center of a wire spool,
allowing you to unreel the wire. I *think* that it should be
mounted to a pivot at the end away from the knob, but I can't
see that in the photo.

1069) From the size and the location of the handle, it would
appear to be a walking stick -- with a rattling center dowel to
keep you from accidentally sneaking up on a bear or other
critter. I think that the marble in the hole is intended to
either be a magnifier, or perhaps to help in starting fires by
concentrating the sun -- though it seems a bit small for that.

1070) Perhaps for handling flasks full of acid at a safe distance
while diluting the acid?

I might think for handling glass which is being formed, except
that wood would be a poor choice for that. :-)

1071) A strange beastie. :-)

The L-shape with the U in it is to guide the blade along the
edge of something, but I can't guess what.

1072) Hmm ... they sort of look like Robertson (square drive)
screwdriver bits, except for the depression on the end. Are
they steel or plastic?

If plastic, they sort of look like the reel spindles for audio
cassette tapes -- though nothing explains why they are stored in
that white paddle.

Now to see what others have said,
DoN.
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E Z Peaces

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 9:47 PM

DoN. Nichols wrote:

> 1068) And this looks to be to support the center of a wire spool,
> allowing you to unreel the wire. I *think* that it should be
> mounted to a pivot at the end away from the knob, but I can't
> see that in the photo.
>
It's made for a wide range of diameters, and each finger has a long step
and a short step.

I think it's a piston-ring placer. I used to use my fingers, but there
was a danger of breaking a ring or scoring the piston.

Some ring spreaders are like tongs. It seems to me there would still be
a danger of damage. Some ring spreaders are keys to hold the gap open.
A mechanic would need a key suited to the ring he was working with,
and I think some rings have diagonal gaps.

This device could be used on really big pistons, and perhaps installing
rings on big pistons is especially tricky.

You screw the thing closed enough for the ring to fit around the small
steps. Then you stick it into the bottom of the piston so the skirt
comes to the top of the long steps. When you expand, the ring will be
just big enough to slide onto the piston. The ring will be in a plane
perpendicular to the axis of the piston.

Patent 1262036 (1918) shows a three point piston-ring placer.
1385922 (1921)

dD

[email protected] (DoN. Nichols)

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

24/08/2007 3:10 AM

According to E Z Peaces <[email protected]>:
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
> > 1068) And this looks to be to support the center of a wire spool,
> > allowing you to unreel the wire. I *think* that it should be
> > mounted to a pivot at the end away from the knob, but I can't
> > see that in the photo.
> >
> It's made for a wide range of diameters, and each finger has a long step
> and a short step.
>
> I think it's a piston-ring placer. I used to use my fingers, but there
> was a danger of breaking a ring or scoring the piston.

I don't think so -- unless your pistons are hollow all the way
through. :-) How are you going to get the other three arms and the screw
out of the way to slip the rings over the piston?

Enjoy,
DoN.

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E Z Peaces

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

24/08/2007 4:40 AM

DoN. Nichols wrote:
> According to E Z Peaces <[email protected]>:
>> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>>
>>> 1068) And this looks to be to support the center of a wire spool,
>>> allowing you to unreel the wire. I *think* that it should be
>>> mounted to a pivot at the end away from the knob, but I can't
>>> see that in the photo.
>>>
>> It's made for a wide range of diameters, and each finger has a long step
>> and a short step.
>>
>> I think it's a piston-ring placer. I used to use my fingers, but there
>> was a danger of breaking a ring or scoring the piston.
>
> I don't think so -- unless your pistons are hollow all the way
> through. :-) How are you going to get the other three arms and the screw
> out of the way to slip the rings over the piston?
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>
I used to put them on the skirt end. I'd start with the ring that
belonged closest to the skirt, to fill that groove so the next ring
would slide over it.

I think the tool would be smaller if it were for gasoline engines. A
tool that big would have to be screwed out pretty far to fit a 5" bore,
for example, and then the piston would have to be pretty deep to have
room for the end of the screw.

In the photo, it's adjusted for a bore of about 9" and would need a
piston 5 or 6" deep. A piston that size would probably have plenty of
depth for the tool.

I think the reason the screw has a couple of inches of extra threads at
the knob end is not to work on small bores but to bring the arms in
against the screw for compact storage. I'd say it's for diesels with
bores in the 7 - 11" range. The engines on locomotives and tugboats
often have bores about 9".

Some kinds of piston rings can be damaged by excessive stretching during
installation. Maybe that's why the tool was invented.

dD

[email protected] (DoN. Nichols)

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

25/08/2007 3:36 AM

According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> Five of the six have been answered correctly, I'm still not sure about 1068:
>
>
> http://pzphotosans194-6.blogspot.com/

I'll make some comments about the guesses shown for 1068:

1. Piston ring placer

I think it unlikely -- mostly because the support arms at the
corners are pivoted in such a way that the piston ring could collapse
the end and cause the ring to slide back off.

2. Bearing puller

It does not appear strong enough for this function -- at least
not for any bearings which I have removed.

3. Pipe fitting tool

Perhaps -- I missed the description of the pipe fitting, so I
don't know how they had it used. Perhaps something to hold a flange
concentric with a large pipe while the flange was welded onto the pipe?
I could see it serving that function -- though I would expect the screw
to be copper coated to make it easier to keep splatter from sticking and
rendering it impossible to unscrew.

4. Large molly bolt

No stop flange to keep it from going through the wall, and I
would see no function for the pivoted arms at the corners.

5. Wire spool support

This was my initial guess -- but I would like a detailed look at
the end away from the knob to have a better feel for this.

6. Thread cleaner for screw breech artillery

Perhaps -- with some chasers which fit on over the arms shown.

7. Camera tripod

Highly unlikely. Too slow to set up (given the length and the
pitch of the screw). You would have to turn the screw far enough out so
the bottom end passed a toggle point, and that would require the arms at
the bottom end to be shorter than the arms at the knob end.


8??) It might also be to expand some form of ring inside something as
part of fitting.

Enjoy,
DoN.
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E Z Peaces

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

25/08/2007 1:55 AM

DoN. Nichols wrote:
> According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
>> Five of the six have been answered correctly, I'm still not sure about 1068:
>>
>>
>> http://pzphotosans194-6.blogspot.com/
>
> I'll make some comments about the guesses shown for 1068:
>
> 1. Piston ring placer
>
> I think it unlikely -- mostly because the support arms at the
> corners are pivoted in such a way that the piston ring could collapse
> the end and cause the ring to slide back off.
>
I want to consider what you say but I don't understand.

I see six support arms if we're talking about the same thing. Each pair
forms a triangle with the screw as the base.

I'll call the three pieces that are free to pivot fingers. The bottom
step of each finger appears to be 3" long.

The inverted piston would be like a coffee can but bigger. The ring
would start out lying on the rim. The tool would be lowered (knob end
up) until the fingers extended about 3" into the piston so that the
short second step of each finger would be in the piston ring.

Then the tool would be expanded, pressing the long steps of the fingers
against the inside of the skirt. That would prevent them from pivoting,
and the second steps would expand the ring enough to tap it carefully
down onto the outside of the piston.

It looks stable to me.

DB

"Dave Baker"

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

25/08/2007 2:52 PM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7dTzi.1950$7p6.774@trnddc01...
> I've found DoN's guesses to be observant, thoughtful, and well founded.

A) Whoooosh
B) I tend to find people who top post to be unobservant, thoughtless and
destined for the kill file.

dD

[email protected] (DoN. Nichols)

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

25/08/2007 8:35 PM

According to E Z Peaces <[email protected]>:
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
> > According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> >> Five of the six have been answered correctly, I'm still not sure about 1068:

[ ... ]

> > 1. Piston ring placer
> >
> > I think it unlikely -- mostly because the support arms at the
> > corners are pivoted in such a way that the piston ring could collapse
> > the end and cause the ring to slide back off.
> >
> I want to consider what you say but I don't understand.
>
> I see six support arms if we're talking about the same thing. Each pair
> forms a triangle with the screw as the base.
>
> I'll call the three pieces that are free to pivot fingers. The bottom
> step of each finger appears to be 3" long.

What you are calling fingers I was calling support arms.

> The inverted piston would be like a coffee can but bigger. The ring
> would start out lying on the rim. The tool would be lowered (knob end
> up) until the fingers extended about 3" into the piston so that the
> short second step of each finger would be in the piston ring.
>
> Then the tool would be expanded, pressing the long steps of the fingers
> against the inside of the skirt. That would prevent them from pivoting,
> and the second steps would expand the ring enough to tap it carefully
> down onto the outside of the piston.

O.K. I *guess* that it could be used that way -- but I would
have designed it with something as part of the device to control the
tilt of the fingers in the basic linkage, not depending on a cavity
which may or may not be available in the piston.

And there are too many likely lumps inside the piston to really
allow it to work reliably. A piston is not typically as empty as a
coffee can. There are the bosses which carry the wrist pin bearings and
keep the connecting rod centered.

> It looks stable to me.

But unnecessarily complicated to use.

I still think that it serves some other function.

Enjoy,
DoN.
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[email protected] (DoN. Nichols)

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

25/08/2007 8:40 PM

According to Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]>:
> I've found DoN's guesses to be observant, thoughtful, and well founded.

Thanks -- but this was a different Don (no upper case 'N') --
and it sounds as though he was posting from experience with the device,
while I was simply guessing based on the apparent behavior and materials
-- plus the 8-2/0 marking.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Patrick Hamlyn

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

25/08/2007 7:50 PM

"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Don Murray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> Don
>"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Seriously Don, if you don't know what it is, stop with the wild guesses.
>>
>> todd
>I've found DoN's guesses to be observant, thoughtful, and well founded.

I found your top posting to be thoughtless, ill-founded and hard to fix.

Todd was displaying something called humour. Irony to be precise. Look it up.
And then look up bottom-posting and why it's better.
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"todd"

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

24/08/2007 11:32 PM

"Don Murray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> R.H. wrote:
>> This week's set has just been posted:
>>
>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
> 1067 Is called a hot tap. It is for high voltage, it is missing the tee
> lug that a jumper would go in. The ring on the bottom is where a tool
> called a shotgun would go in, which is a long stick with a control rod
> that can hook in the ring, you hold this a foot or so above the power
> line and pull it down and the bill on the hot tap will catch the hot power
> line. Then you turn it to close the bottom jaw. ok for picking up load but
> not so good for dropping load. This one will work from #8 to 2/0 wire.
>
> Don

Seriously Don, if you don't know what it is, stop with the wild guesses.

todd

BR

Bill Rider

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

24/08/2007 9:50 PM

R.H. wrote:
> This week's set has just been posted:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1070 - I think it's to hand somebody a rope.

I've worked aboard three fishing boats. The seine would be more than a
thousand feet with a rope along the top and a rope along the bottom.
The motor dory would take one end in a big circle around the school.
Then the dory guy would transfer his ends of the ropes to the boat.

Now I can't recall how it was done. It had to be quick and simple and
foolproof. With both boats bobbing it seems too far to reach up from
the launch to somebody on the boat.

The tongs would extend one's reach by nearly four feet. They're too big
for the nylon we used but look the right size to grab the ropes used
before synthetics.

The tongs would pinch a rope at two points a handswidth apart. Pull
from the bight would flex the rope where it was pinched, which could
cause it to slip out. It wouldn't flex and slip at the other pinch
point, toward the end. As the bight would pull toward the person
holding the tongs, there would be less flexing with the second version,
with its angled head.

Being almost entirely wood, they would float. They could also be used
to reach down to pick up a rope on the water.

dd

dav1936531

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 7:30 PM

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:19:59 -0400, "R.H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

>This week's set has just been posted:
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>Rob

1067: That is a Romulan warp gernade for blasting enemies into time
warps.
1068: Some type of device for an unknown pipe fitting procedure.
1069: Combination pimp cane/bitch whip for keeping "da ho's" in line.
1070: Spanish Inquisition device for pulling the tongues out of
non-believers.
1071: No idea.
1072: No idea.
Dave
OK...I got stumped so I kow I don't win anything this time.

rM

[email protected] (Matthew T. Russotto)

in reply to "R.H." on 23/08/2007 4:19 AM

23/08/2007 7:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>This week's set has just been posted:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

1067: Slide it onto one line and attach another line to it, but I have
no idea why.

1068: Looks like a big molly bolt and probably serves a similar
purpose -- flatten it, insert it into a hole in a hollow wall, then
expand it to provide a support for something.

1069: George Brett's childhood baseball bat

1070: Perhaps for handling just-fired ceramics

1071: Glasscutting tool, perhaps

1072: Socket wrench sockets with an inverted drive.
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