I'm installing a kitchen sink into a new countertop and am concerned about
placement before starting to cut the hole. Holes are, after all, remarkably
difficult to move.
The sink dimensions, front to back including the flange, is 22" and the
countertop is a standard 24".
My gut reaction is to split the difference and center it front to back, but
if that winds up being too far from the front edge of the counter
(ergonomic-wise), I could be stuck for a long time to come.
Does anyone know if there's a standard to this? Or is it gut feel?
Thanks in advance,
Joe
Joe,
No template unfortunately. Their idea of a template is to turn the sink
upside down on the counter, trace the outline, remove the sink, draw another
line 1/4" inside the first, then cut to that.
Kind of bass-ackwards by my thinking.
Good point about the jigsaw butting up against the backsplash, I'm going to
go check that right now.
Joe
"Joe Gorman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Joe C wrote:
>
> > I'm installing a kitchen sink into a new countertop and am concerned
about
> > placement before starting to cut the hole. Holes are, after all,
remarkably
> > difficult to move.
> >
> > The sink dimensions, front to back including the flange, is 22" and the
> > countertop is a standard 24".
> >
> > My gut reaction is to split the difference and center it front to back,
but
> > if that winds up being too far from the front edge of the counter
> > (ergonomic-wise), I could be stuck for a long time to come.
> >
> > Does anyone know if there's a standard to this? Or is it gut feel?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
>
> If this was a new in the box sink it should have had a cutout diagram
> printed on the bod. As you didn't mention this I'll take it you don't
have
> that. I'd take a piece oc cardboard 24" by sink width plus 2" or more and
> do a cutout in it forst. The lip should be fairly consistant on the sink
> so I'd measure it and cut a little undersixed, I have figgured out how to
> make most holes bigger:-)
> Once the cardboard temlate fit neatly I'd transfer that to the countertop,
> mark and cut. Make sure the jigsaw you're using will fit that close to
the
> wall, that long back cut is a PITA with a hand saw:-(
> Joe
>
John,
Yes, it might seem obvious, but when I made my first set of measurements
(1st of 5, I might add), the cut line would've been on the outside (and VERY
visible) of the base cabinet. Okay, I got past that, took a deep breath and
proceded.
A counter (especially a 9' long counter) is an expensive thing to screw up.
Joe
"John McGaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Joe C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm installing a kitchen sink into a new countertop and am concerned
about
> > placement before starting to cut the hole. Holes are, after all,
> remarkably
> > difficult to move.
> >
> > The sink dimensions, front to back including the flange, is 22" and the
> > countertop is a standard 24".
> >
> > My gut reaction is to split the difference and center it front to back,
> but
> > if that winds up being too far from the front edge of the counter
> > (ergonomic-wise), I could be stuck for a long time to come.
> >
> > Does anyone know if there's a standard to this? Or is it gut feel?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> This might seem obvious but I've seen the mistake made: when you do your
> layout for the sink cutout, remember that the sink MUST BE INSIDE the base
> counter. In fact, that might be an excellent way to determine how far
> forward the sink can possibly be -- a hole drilled from below using a long
> thin bit exactly flush with the inside front of the cabinet will fall on
the
> most forward possible layout line. When I did my kitchen I had to push my
> sink back just a hair so that I could accomodate full-sized edging tiles
> across the entire span.
> --
> John McGaw
> [Knoxville, TN, USA]
> http://johnmcgaw.com
>
>
Dave,
Toekicks are 3 1/8" (but I haven't put the facing on them yet, so make that
3" even), and the counter overhang is a standard (?) 5/8". Short story is
that my hips hit the front edge of the counter without any noticeable
leaning forward.
Maybe I'll still cheat 1/4" toward the front.
Thanks,
Joe
"Bannerstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> How deep are your toe kicks? If they're rather shallow (<3") then cheat
the
> sink closer to the front edge. The depth of toe kicks can make for more
> comfortable ergonomics when standing at the sink or any other counter
because it
> allows you to stand closer and more upright. Believe me visual symetry
takes
> distant second to lower back pain.
>
> David
>
> In article <[email protected]>, Joe C says...
> >
> >I'm installing a kitchen sink into a new countertop and am concerned
about
> >placement before starting to cut the hole. Holes are, after all,
remarkably
> >difficult to move.
> >
> >The sink dimensions, front to back including the flange, is 22" and the
> >countertop is a standard 24".
> >
> >My gut reaction is to split the difference and center it front to back,
but
> >if that winds up being too far from the front edge of the counter
> >(ergonomic-wise), I could be stuck for a long time to come.
> >
> >Does anyone know if there's a standard to this? Or is it gut feel?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
>
How deep are your toe kicks? If they're rather shallow (<3") then cheat the
sink closer to the front edge. The depth of toe kicks can make for more
comfortable ergonomics when standing at the sink or any other counter because it
allows you to stand closer and more upright. Believe me visual symetry takes
distant second to lower back pain.
David
In article <[email protected]>, Joe C says...
>
>I'm installing a kitchen sink into a new countertop and am concerned about
>placement before starting to cut the hole. Holes are, after all, remarkably
>difficult to move.
>
>The sink dimensions, front to back including the flange, is 22" and the
>countertop is a standard 24".
>
>My gut reaction is to split the difference and center it front to back, but
>if that winds up being too far from the front edge of the counter
>(ergonomic-wise), I could be stuck for a long time to come.
>
>Does anyone know if there's a standard to this? Or is it gut feel?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Joe
>
>
Joe C wrote:
> I'm installing a kitchen sink into a new countertop and am concerned about
> placement before starting to cut the hole. Holes are, after all, remarkably
> difficult to move.
>
> The sink dimensions, front to back including the flange, is 22" and the
> countertop is a standard 24".
>
> My gut reaction is to split the difference and center it front to back, but
> if that winds up being too far from the front edge of the counter
> (ergonomic-wise), I could be stuck for a long time to come.
>
> Does anyone know if there's a standard to this? Or is it gut feel?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
>
>
If this was a new in the box sink it should have had a cutout diagram
printed on the bod. As you didn't mention this I'll take it you don't have
that. I'd take a piece oc cardboard 24" by sink width plus 2" or more and
do a cutout in it forst. The lip should be fairly consistant on the sink
so I'd measure it and cut a little undersixed, I have figgured out how to
make most holes bigger:-)
Once the cardboard temlate fit neatly I'd transfer that to the countertop,
mark and cut. Make sure the jigsaw you're using will fit that close to the
wall, that long back cut is a PITA with a hand saw:-(
Joe
Joe,
If you're not too far along, consider raising the sink. I'm only
5'8", but I find standard sink height a little too low to be
comfortable. And I also find that I spend longer periods at my shop
sink than I ever do in the kitchen. I'd raise the sink a couple of
inches above standard height.
DonkeyHody
"I'd rather expect the best from people and be wrong than expect the
worst and be right."
> I'm installing a kitchen sink into a new countertop and am concerned about
> placement before starting to cut the hole. Holes are, after all, remarkably
> difficult to move.
>
> The sink dimensions, front to back including the flange, is 22" and the
> countertop is a standard 24".
>
> My gut reaction is to split the difference and center it front to back, but
> if that winds up being too far from the front edge of the counter
> (ergonomic-wise), I could be stuck for a long time to come.
>
> Does anyone know if there's a standard to this? Or is it gut feel?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
"Joe C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm installing a kitchen sink into a new countertop and am concerned about
> placement before starting to cut the hole. Holes are, after all,
remarkably
> difficult to move.
>
> The sink dimensions, front to back including the flange, is 22" and the
> countertop is a standard 24".
>
> My gut reaction is to split the difference and center it front to back,
but
> if that winds up being too far from the front edge of the counter
> (ergonomic-wise), I could be stuck for a long time to come.
>
> Does anyone know if there's a standard to this? Or is it gut feel?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Joe
>
This might seem obvious but I've seen the mistake made: when you do your
layout for the sink cutout, remember that the sink MUST BE INSIDE the base
counter. In fact, that might be an excellent way to determine how far
forward the sink can possibly be -- a hole drilled from below using a long
thin bit exactly flush with the inside front of the cabinet will fall on the
most forward possible layout line. When I did my kitchen I had to push my
sink back just a hair so that I could accomodate full-sized edging tiles
across the entire span.
--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com